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cascades
Singapore6122 Posts
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
On January 14 2011 16:33 Caller wrote: this seems kind of silly. Since the side with the most votes wins, all people have to do is get everybody to one for one side or the other to get free IP. Hell, they could find a forum, clue in everybody on it, post the "winning vote" for different people, and system is broken. They instead need to make the player in question anonymous or give him a randomly generated pseudonym. Considering that which report you get to judge is random and there are 10,000+ reports every day, in order for people to game the system correctly they'd need a whole database of report information that's easily searched. I understand the worry but I don't think it's the kind of thing where one person can post the information somewhere and immediately break that particular tribunal without a searchable database behind it. Also, it depends on how hard the cases are to judge. If for the most part it's "easy" to get the "right" answer then the majority of jurists will find it easier to follow the system rather than game it, unless they're trying to use some kind of botnet to skew the results to get themselves free IP. | ||
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Hynda
Sweden2226 Posts
My prediction is that people that get picked for this is going to open the ticket up afk for 60 seconds then vote guilty (Because people on the Internet are complete bastards, so naturally the largest chance of getting IP doing no work is to press the guilty button). Giving tons of people grievance for the slightest of transgresions. | ||
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Glacierz
United States1244 Posts
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
I'm not too worried about people trying to game the system by constantly voting "Punish". It'll be pathetically easy for Riot to track that sort of stupidity. They'll be reviewing any cases with severe penalties anyway, and if the judges voted erroneously in an obvious way Riot won't think twice about removing them from the system. The possible group think and subjective opinions on what is punishable and pardonable worry me more. | ||
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Glacierz
United States1244 Posts
I think everyone's opinion is subjective, but with enough votes it becomes a collective opinion, which is what democracy is all about? lol | ||
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Phrost
United States4008 Posts
On January 15 2011 01:15 Seuss wrote: Given the screenshot there's simply a choice between "Punish","Pardon" and "Skip", no multiple choice. I'm not too worried about people trying to game the system by constantly voting "Punish". It'll be pathetically easy for Riot to track that sort of stupidity. They'll be reviewing any cases with severe penalties anyway, and if the judges voted erroneously in an obvious way Riot won't think twice about removing them from the system. The possible group think and subjective opinions on what is punishable and pardonable worry me more. they could also include random cases that are not punishable and if there is an overwhelming wrong vote remove those users from being able to judge | ||
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Awesomo
Netherlands206 Posts
giefgiefgiefgiefgiefgiefgief! | ||
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0123456789
United States3216 Posts
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On January 15 2011 01:41 0123456789 wrote: I don't like the new system. Inc Hotshot ban from haters. for no good reason, I have more faith in the community than that. I suppose we'll see when it comes out, but my feeling is that it will turn out better than people expect. | ||
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ghen
United States1356 Posts
People that only want to use it for IP will be weeded out. Their judgements won't be in line with the rest of the players and they won't get as many points that way. Also, people who just want to grief will get tired of it easily. No, the only ones who will consistently use it will be those with a high sense of morals and feeling to make the game better I suspect. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
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Scorcher2k
United States802 Posts
On January 15 2011 01:45 Mogwai wrote: for no good reason, I have more faith in the community than that. I suppose we'll see when it comes out, but my feeling is that it will turn out better than people expect. I almost guarantee that Reginald gets banned as soon as someone reports him. It seems like, anytime I open his stream the chat is full of him raging at someone. | ||
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ghen
United States1356 Posts
On January 15 2011 01:55 Scorcher2k wrote: I almost guarantee that Reginald gets banned as soon as someone reports him. It seems like, anytime I open his stream the chat is full of him raging at someone. Well at first he would get a warning, maybe that's a good thing? The one problem I have with the tribunal system is it actually shows you the names of the people you're judging. That just seems like completely worthless information for the judge. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On January 15 2011 02:02 ghen wrote: Well at first he would get a warning, maybe that's a good thing? The one problem I have with the tribunal system is it actually shows you the names of the people you're judging. That just seems like completely worthless information for the judge. I think the main deterrent for changing the names is that sometimes in the chat logs some names will be mentioned and it could be important to know who those names are referring to. Now of course you could change the names in the chat logs too, but doing that with an automated process and accounting for nicknames, shortened names, and misspellings would be tough and innaccurate, so I understand why they would just leave the names on there. I think one of the most important things they can do to keep it impartial is to have people judging others out of their own elo bracket, as that would cut out most of the bad blood that would make for biased judging, though of course you have e-celebs who will get undeserved hate/love. | ||
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Hynda
Sweden2226 Posts
On January 15 2011 01:51 ghen wrote: I LOVE the new system. Finally something to do at work to get IP. People that only want to use it for IP will be weeded out. Their judgements won't be in line with the rest of the players and they won't get as many points that way. Also, people who just want to grief will get tired of it easily. No, the only ones who will consistently use it will be those with a high sense of morals and feeling to make the game better I suspect. Did you somehow forget that you're on the Internet? | ||
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0123456789
United States3216 Posts
On January 15 2011 02:11 xDaunt wrote: Can someone post a link to where this new system was announced/leaked? Just one page back bro http://kotaku.com/5733206/a-new-and-maybe-better-way-to-stop-people-from-being-jerks-online e-justice? on LoL? ummm... this may not end well for a lot of people. | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On January 15 2011 02:59 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: The new system will be fine. We have a great community and I'm sure riot is smarter than to be like HURRRRRRR LETS GIVE EVERYONE A BANHAMMAR DURRRR. If you mean TL then I yes, it's a great community. If you mean LoL pubbies then... I'm not so certain. | ||
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