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Cedstick
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada3336 Posts
July 24 2011 08:17 GMT
#22661
On July 24 2011 17:14 Irave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 17:08 Cedstick wrote:
Hahahahah, so much hate on Grackis. Going to love it when he wins.

I don't know his new persona is really annoying. Also like a child, hey did you see what I did just there? Or man my stats are so bad right now, but I'm around to help! Fact is he has always been an arrogant rager, but now that he is struggling trying to get a team for NESL he is all friendly.

My first time watching him, so I don't know about his past, but I'm inclined to side with him anyway in this case 'cause that vretttt guy is a tool.
"What does Rivington do when he's not commentating?" "Drool." ~ Categorist
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
July 24 2011 08:19 GMT
#22662
im rooting for nyjacky
loco is fktub
cool beans
locodoco
Profile Joined July 2010
Korea (South)1615 Posts
July 24 2011 08:21 GMT
#22663
On July 24 2011 17:19 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
im rooting for nyjacky
loco is fktub

ur the worst support in the world u know taht right?
i wish riot would give me better ping
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-24 08:37:52
July 24 2011 08:30 GMT
#22664
On July 24 2011 17:17 Cedstick wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 17:14 Irave wrote:
On July 24 2011 17:08 Cedstick wrote:
Hahahahah, so much hate on Grackis. Going to love it when he wins.

I don't know his new persona is really annoying. Also like a child, hey did you see what I did just there? Or man my stats are so bad right now, but I'm around to help! Fact is he has always been an arrogant rager, but now that he is struggling trying to get a team for NESL he is all friendly.

My first time watching him, so I don't know about his past, but I'm inclined to side with him anyway in this case 'cause that vretttt guy is a tool.


Most people troll Grackis because of his personality. Unfortunately, his past is still there deep down. If someone acts like a tool on his team I'm all for it. Grackis is a huge rager and basically just got carried to where he is, and thinks he actually deserves it. I've never in my life seen him truly carry a game. He might get fed once in a long while by morons but he still doesn't actually carry the game. He might win it, but he doesn't carry.

Now he tries to not rage anymore, so it's instead replaced by the fake facade of him trying to be all friendly and supportive that just sounds kind of...wrong. It's basically when you get so much shit for how you act that you attempt to act differently to please the person you're bothering but now you're out of your element, so you just seem awkward. That's how Grackis seems nowadays when acting all friendly and supportive on his stream. While he still plays bad and thinks he deserves where he is while he's carried by people....so....

Got to give him props for trying to change and put stuff together, but at the end of the day he's still Grackis.

@brocodoco:

That's why nxynxynxy isn't going to gamescon.....just like you, huehuehue! I kid <3 wish you luck. You seem like the best choice.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
July 24 2011 08:41 GMT
#22665
On July 24 2011 16:45 HazMat wrote:
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On July 24 2011 16:35 NeoIllusions wrote:
On July 24 2011 15:49 gtrsrs wrote:
why would they ever take nyjacky (s)he's awful
i'm sure they'll pick you broco


zzz, this is the same shit as people saying Xpecial is terrible or w/e. Why exactly do you think Nyjacky's bad?

People see someone do bad once so they say they're terrible. It's really weird because the people that say shit like this don't even play at their elo.


On the other hand you sometimes see like Smash and I ragging on ManyReasons(toDodge) for months because we literally had never seen him do remotely close to not-feed, but then it turns out he's actually supposed to not be remotely that bad.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-24 09:21:21
July 24 2011 09:21 GMT
#22666
On July 24 2011 17:21 locodoco wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 17:19 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
im rooting for nyjacky
loco is fktub

ur the worst support in the world u know taht right?


don't think i know a taht. should i know him?

ontopic: who is more OP in solo top, yorick or udyr?
cool beans
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
July 24 2011 09:22 GMT
#22667
I think Udyr would win the lane but I maintain that Udyr is 99% worthless in teamfights the longer the game goes on.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
HeadhunteR
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Argentina1258 Posts
July 24 2011 09:28 GMT
#22668
Udyr is super OP I watched how Dyrus on his stream had a very very hard time against an Udyr top playing as Corki. Man it looked broken as fuck, Udyr had little to no problem laneing against Corki harrasing Udyr is not a solution, he just lifesteals back to full HP at insane rates.
in The Kong line forever
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
July 24 2011 09:42 GMT
#22669
On July 24 2011 17:21 locodoco wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 17:19 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
im rooting for nyjacky
loco is fktub

ur the worst support in the world u know taht right?

Speaking of support, with your Sona skills I think they should consider just having you replace Elementz.
Hynda
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden2226 Posts
July 24 2011 09:46 GMT
#22670
On July 24 2011 18:28 HeadhunteR wrote:
Udyr is super OP I watched how Dyrus on his stream had a very very hard time against an Udyr top playing as Corki. Man it looked broken as fuck, Udyr had little to no problem laneing against Corki harrasing Udyr is not a solution, he just lifesteals back to full HP at insane rates.
The problem with Udyr is that sure you know have a super farmed udyr... That will not be nearly as useful as a super farmed corki. A lot of the "ridiculous sustain" heroes suffer from this. They have this awesome lane presence but can't use it for anything worth while.

Take shaco for example. He is ridiculous early game if you jungle him. The ammount of pressure and early kills he can get you is unrivaled. Sadly he is completly useless once you get past the 20 minute mark and makes it basicly a 4 vs 5.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
July 24 2011 09:58 GMT
#22671
On July 24 2011 18:46 Hynda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 18:28 HeadhunteR wrote:
Udyr is super OP I watched how Dyrus on his stream had a very very hard time against an Udyr top playing as Corki. Man it looked broken as fuck, Udyr had little to no problem laneing against Corki harrasing Udyr is not a solution, he just lifesteals back to full HP at insane rates.
The problem with Udyr is that sure you know have a super farmed udyr... That will not be nearly as useful as a super farmed corki. A lot of the "ridiculous sustain" heroes suffer from this. They have this awesome lane presence but can't use it for anything worth while.

Take shaco for example. He is ridiculous early game if you jungle him. The ammount of pressure and early kills he can get you is unrivaled. Sadly he is completly useless once you get past the 20 minute mark and makes it basicly a 4 vs 5.

Shaco is an excellent split pusher who can 1v1 most champs with ease and doesn't even die when the whole enemy team comes to stop him.
It requires your team to not get caught 4v5 though.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Hynda
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden2226 Posts
July 24 2011 10:09 GMT
#22672
On July 24 2011 18:58 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 18:46 Hynda wrote:
On July 24 2011 18:28 HeadhunteR wrote:
Udyr is super OP I watched how Dyrus on his stream had a very very hard time against an Udyr top playing as Corki. Man it looked broken as fuck, Udyr had little to no problem laneing against Corki harrasing Udyr is not a solution, he just lifesteals back to full HP at insane rates.
The problem with Udyr is that sure you know have a super farmed udyr... That will not be nearly as useful as a super farmed corki. A lot of the "ridiculous sustain" heroes suffer from this. They have this awesome lane presence but can't use it for anything worth while.

Take shaco for example. He is ridiculous early game if you jungle him. The ammount of pressure and early kills he can get you is unrivaled. Sadly he is completly useless once you get past the 20 minute mark and makes it basicly a 4 vs 5.

Shaco is an excellent split pusher who can 1v1 most champs with ease and doesn't even die when the whole enemy team comes to stop him.
It requires your team to not get caught 4v5 though.

I love the Shaco but there is a reason he is pretty much never used. But you pretty much give up map control to use him, and is that really worth it?
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
July 24 2011 10:21 GMT
#22673
He's not used because his midgame is horrific and he's prone to counterjungles, which have a tendency to cripple him.

Udyr's problem has been hashed out numerous times in this thread, and is completely unrelated to Shaco's problem.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
July 24 2011 10:33 GMT
#22674
quick question: is it worth someone's time to play on TT? Is it significantly worse than SR?
i never played on it o_o
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Hynda
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden2226 Posts
July 24 2011 10:35 GMT
#22675
On July 24 2011 19:21 Southlight wrote:
He's not used because his midgame is horrific and he's prone to counterjungles, which have a tendency to cripple him.

Udyr's problem has been hashed out numerous times in this thread, and is completely unrelated to Shaco's problem.

Who said they were? I was pointing out the fact that heroes that do certain things extremly well, such as udyrs lane and shacos early game has flaws that drag them down. So it's no strange that people go "OH FUCK THAT SHIT SO OP", when they should look at the whole picture.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
July 24 2011 10:42 GMT
#22676
Mweh, you seemed to point to problems with ridiculous sustain heroes, then bring up Shaco as an example. Didn't realize you'd separated the points. My bad.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Hynda
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden2226 Posts
July 24 2011 10:57 GMT
#22677
On July 24 2011 19:42 Southlight wrote:
Mweh, you seemed to point to problems with ridiculous sustain heroes, then bring up Shaco as an example. Didn't realize you'd separated the points. My bad.
Tired as fuck : P it's horribly formulated by me, so I can see why you get that impression. I wanted to take up a hero that isn't a sustain hero but still does something really well. I think Shaco is the best example in the game because his highs are so high and his lows are so low. He is Mr Bipolar!
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-24 12:38:28
July 24 2011 12:08 GMT
#22678
Does anyone know (i need 100% confirmed info, not some guesses) if in normals TT Elo = SR Elo? Or at least if there's some kind of relation between these 2? I need to drop down HARD in Elo really fast but at the same time don't want to do stuff that may make me banned so i play 3mans with 2 friends, just not sure if this will make my SR Elo go down as well

(From what i've read they have the same Elo since they have the same w/l ratio which is quite an reasonable explanation)
Cedstick
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada3336 Posts
July 24 2011 12:24 GMT
#22679
Nothing like a community banding together for the... greater good?

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=881664
"What does Rivington do when he's not commentating?" "Drool." ~ Categorist
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22422 Posts
July 24 2011 12:42 GMT
#22680
The best way to drop is to just queue dodge your way down. That way no one is effected by you leaving and you still lose the Elo for a loss.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
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