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On July 24 2011 17:14 Irave wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2011 17:08 Cedstick wrote:
Hahahahah, so much hate on Grackis. Going to love it when he wins. I don't know his new persona is really annoying. Also like a child, hey did you see what I did just there? Or man my stats are so bad right now, but I'm around to help! Fact is he has always been an arrogant rager, but now that he is struggling trying to get a team for NESL he is all friendly.
My first time watching him, so I don't know about his past, but I'm inclined to side with him anyway in this case 'cause that vretttt guy is a tool.
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im rooting for nyjacky
loco is fktub
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On July 24 2011 17:19 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
im rooting for nyjacky
loco is fktub
ur the worst support in the world u know taht right?
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On July 24 2011 17:17 Cedstick wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2011 17:14 Irave wrote:On July 24 2011 17:08 Cedstick wrote:
Hahahahah, so much hate on Grackis. Going to love it when he wins. I don't know his new persona is really annoying. Also like a child, hey did you see what I did just there? Or man my stats are so bad right now, but I'm around to help! Fact is he has always been an arrogant rager, but now that he is struggling trying to get a team for NESL he is all friendly. My first time watching him, so I don't know about his past, but I'm inclined to side with him anyway in this case 'cause that vretttt guy is a tool.
Most people troll Grackis because of his personality. Unfortunately, his past is still there deep down. If someone acts like a tool on his team I'm all for it. Grackis is a huge rager and basically just got carried to where he is, and thinks he actually deserves it. I've never in my life seen him truly carry a game. He might get fed once in a long while by morons but he still doesn't actually carry the game. He might win it, but he doesn't carry.
Now he tries to not rage anymore, so it's instead replaced by the fake facade of him trying to be all friendly and supportive that just sounds kind of...wrong. It's basically when you get so much shit for how you act that you attempt to act differently to please the person you're bothering but now you're out of your element, so you just seem awkward. That's how Grackis seems nowadays when acting all friendly and supportive on his stream. While he still plays bad and thinks he deserves where he is while he's carried by people....so....
Got to give him props for trying to change and put stuff together, but at the end of the day he's still Grackis.
@brocodoco:
That's why nxynxynxy isn't going to gamescon.....just like you, huehuehue! I kid <3 wish you luck. You seem like the best choice.
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On July 24 2011 16:45 HazMat wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2011 16:35 NeoIllusions wrote:On July 24 2011 15:49 gtrsrs wrote:
why would they ever take nyjacky (s)he's awful
i'm sure they'll pick you broco zzz, this is the same shit as people saying Xpecial is terrible or w/e. Why exactly do you think Nyjacky's bad? People see someone do bad once so they say they're terrible. It's really weird because the people that say shit like this don't even play at their elo.
On the other hand you sometimes see like Smash and I ragging on ManyReasons(toDodge) for months because we literally had never seen him do remotely close to not-feed, but then it turns out he's actually supposed to not be remotely that bad.
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On July 24 2011 17:21 locodoco wrote:ur the worst support in the world u know taht right?
don't think i know a taht. should i know him?
ontopic: who is more OP in solo top, yorick or udyr?
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I think Udyr would win the lane but I maintain that Udyr is 99% worthless in teamfights the longer the game goes on.
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Udyr is super OP I watched how Dyrus on his stream had a very very hard time against an Udyr top playing as Corki. Man it looked broken as fuck, Udyr had little to no problem laneing against Corki harrasing Udyr is not a solution, he just lifesteals back to full HP at insane rates.
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On July 24 2011 17:21 locodoco wrote:ur the worst support in the world u know taht right?
Speaking of support, with your Sona skills I think they should consider just having you replace Elementz.
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On July 24 2011 18:28 HeadhunteR wrote:
Udyr is super OP I watched how Dyrus on his stream had a very very hard time against an Udyr top playing as Corki. Man it looked broken as fuck, Udyr had little to no problem laneing against Corki harrasing Udyr is not a solution, he just lifesteals back to full HP at insane rates. The problem with Udyr is that sure you know have a super farmed udyr... That will not be nearly as useful as a super farmed corki. A lot of the "ridiculous sustain" heroes suffer from this. They have this awesome lane presence but can't use it for anything worth while.
Take shaco for example. He is ridiculous early game if you jungle him. The ammount of pressure and early kills he can get you is unrivaled. Sadly he is completly useless once you get past the 20 minute mark and makes it basicly a 4 vs 5.
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On July 24 2011 18:46 Hynda wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2011 18:28 HeadhunteR wrote:
Udyr is super OP I watched how Dyrus on his stream had a very very hard time against an Udyr top playing as Corki. Man it looked broken as fuck, Udyr had little to no problem laneing against Corki harrasing Udyr is not a solution, he just lifesteals back to full HP at insane rates. The problem with Udyr is that sure you know have a super farmed udyr... That will not be nearly as useful as a super farmed corki. A lot of the "ridiculous sustain" heroes suffer from this. They have this awesome lane presence but can't use it for anything worth while. Take shaco for example. He is ridiculous early game if you jungle him. The ammount of pressure and early kills he can get you is unrivaled. Sadly he is completly useless once you get past the 20 minute mark and makes it basicly a 4 vs 5.
Shaco is an excellent split pusher who can 1v1 most champs with ease and doesn't even die when the whole enemy team comes to stop him.
It requires your team to not get caught 4v5 though.
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On July 24 2011 18:58 spinesheath wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2011 18:46 Hynda wrote:On July 24 2011 18:28 HeadhunteR wrote:
Udyr is super OP I watched how Dyrus on his stream had a very very hard time against an Udyr top playing as Corki. Man it looked broken as fuck, Udyr had little to no problem laneing against Corki harrasing Udyr is not a solution, he just lifesteals back to full HP at insane rates. The problem with Udyr is that sure you know have a super farmed udyr... That will not be nearly as useful as a super farmed corki. A lot of the "ridiculous sustain" heroes suffer from this. They have this awesome lane presence but can't use it for anything worth while. Take shaco for example. He is ridiculous early game if you jungle him. The ammount of pressure and early kills he can get you is unrivaled. Sadly he is completly useless once you get past the 20 minute mark and makes it basicly a 4 vs 5. Shaco is an excellent split pusher who can 1v1 most champs with ease and doesn't even die when the whole enemy team comes to stop him. It requires your team to not get caught 4v5 though.
I love the Shaco but there is a reason he is pretty much never used. But you pretty much give up map control to use him, and is that really worth it?
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He's not used because his midgame is horrific and he's prone to counterjungles, which have a tendency to cripple him.
Udyr's problem has been hashed out numerous times in this thread, and is completely unrelated to Shaco's problem.
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quick question: is it worth someone's time to play on TT? Is it significantly worse than SR?
i never played on it o_o
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On July 24 2011 19:21 Southlight wrote:
He's not used because his midgame is horrific and he's prone to counterjungles, which have a tendency to cripple him.
Udyr's problem has been hashed out numerous times in this thread, and is completely unrelated to Shaco's problem.
Who said they were? I was pointing out the fact that heroes that do certain things extremly well, such as udyrs lane and shacos early game has flaws that drag them down. So it's no strange that people go "OH FUCK THAT SHIT SO OP", when they should look at the whole picture.
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Mweh, you seemed to point to problems with ridiculous sustain heroes, then bring up Shaco as an example. Didn't realize you'd separated the points. My bad.
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On July 24 2011 19:42 Southlight wrote:
Mweh, you seemed to point to problems with ridiculous sustain heroes, then bring up Shaco as an example. Didn't realize you'd separated the points. My bad. Tired as fuck : P it's horribly formulated by me, so I can see why you get that impression. I wanted to take up a hero that isn't a sustain hero but still does something really well. I think Shaco is the best example in the game because his highs are so high and his lows are so low. He is Mr Bipolar!
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Does anyone know (i need 100% confirmed info, not some guesses) if in normals TT Elo = SR Elo? Or at least if there's some kind of relation between these 2? I need to drop down HARD in Elo really fast but at the same time don't want to do stuff that may make me banned so i play 3mans with 2 friends, just not sure if this will make my SR Elo go down as well
(From what i've read they have the same Elo since they have the same w/l ratio which is quite an reasonable explanation)
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The best way to drop is to just queue dodge your way down. That way no one is effected by you leaving and you still lose the Elo for a loss.
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