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EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-27 07:46:56
September 27 2015 07:46 GMT
#21
Quick thoughts on PTR patch:

  1. The UI changes look phenomenal. If this is to be considered a "good patch", 90% of the credit goes toward the UI changes.
  2. Apparently they're taking a pass at tanks right now, buffing and nerfing heroes so that everyone is "viable". Glad to see Johanna and Leoric utility take a small hit, though I think it's the raw stats that make them so much more powerful compared to other tanks. ETC will become a god. Chen will still suck. The Stitches changes are...different, but I think it's an attempt to shift power back to sustained damage dealers vs burst assassins.
  3. I actually don't like the change to the Garden Terror. Out of all the maps, Garden of Terror feels the most balanced to me, and making Terror pushes stronger means that team fights with defending Terrors will be MORE necessary. All of the other map changes are good.
  4. Shadowstalk was already an incredibly powerful map awareness tool, but now it doesn't work at all the same way.... Maybe the new Shadowstalk will be better.
  5. RIP Tassadar RIP Nazeebo



EDIT: Oh, and the Medic looks good, I can't wait!
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Markwerf
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands3728 Posts
September 27 2015 10:47 GMT
#22
On September 27 2015 16:46 SC2John wrote:
Quick thoughts on PTR patch:

  1. The UI changes look phenomenal. If this is to be considered a "good patch", 90% of the credit goes toward the UI changes.
  2. Apparently they're taking a pass at tanks right now, buffing and nerfing heroes so that everyone is "viable". Glad to see Johanna and Leoric utility take a small hit, though I think it's the raw stats that make them so much more powerful compared to other tanks. ETC will become a god. Chen will still suck. The Stitches changes are...different, but I think it's an attempt to shift power back to sustained damage dealers vs burst assassins.
  3. I actually don't like the change to the Garden Terror. Out of all the maps, Garden of Terror feels the most balanced to me, and making Terror pushes stronger means that team fights with defending Terrors will be MORE necessary. All of the other map changes are good.
  4. Shadowstalk was already an incredibly powerful map awareness tool, but now it doesn't work at all the same way.... Maybe the new Shadowstalk will be better.
  5. RIP Tassadar RIP Nazeebo



EDIT: Oh, and the Medic looks good, I can't wait!


Garden of terror did tend to last a bit long as Terrors nullified eachother sometimes. Stronger attacking terror does create interesting cases where being the first to get the terror online will be important as you gain more of an advantage if the fight is at their core instead of somewhere else, currently that doesn't really matter if keeps are gone already which drags the map out too much.
And I think you'll be incredibly mistaken about Tassa's change here, it's a buff not a nerf. Great lvl 4 life leach talent now (where all other talents stink somewhat) and shielding others (which is what tassadar does 90% of the time) is 12.5% more effective. And lower cooldown and manacost too. A massive buff on a basic skill plus a great talent more than compensates a small nerf on Archon. Archon damage actually wasn't all that much too begin with so losing 20% damage on it (you do 160% instead of 200% basic Tassa damage now in Archon) isn't the end of the world.

And shadowstalk was an incredibly powerful map awareness tool? Are you serious? The two abilities counteracted eachother as people would know when you were stealthed making it pretty darn useless. Plus why would you need extra map awareness if you have tyrande already.. Owl does that just fine.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
September 27 2015 11:07 GMT
#23
Medic will be like Brightwing, no real self heals D:
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44334 Posts
September 27 2015 13:50 GMT
#24
On September 27 2015 20:07 FeyFey wrote:
Medic will be like Brightwing, no real self heals D:


Isn't her default trait automatic self-healing when not in battle?

I'm really excited to see how the Medivac Heroic helps the dynamic of fights/ retreats. It looked like the medic merely called in the medivac, and it was up to each individual hero to board (or not board) the medivac to fly away. I like the idea of having a collaborative heroic ability like that, and it certainly prevents allies from yelling at the medic for forcing them away from a battle they wanted to stay in.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-27 13:52:05
September 27 2015 13:51 GMT
#25
Overview of Artanis:
How Artanis might change the Heroes meta
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
September 27 2015 14:07 GMT
#26
Yeah the trait self heals her, but try to not take damage in combat if you are the healer and everyone knows you cannot heal yourself.
But I bet she has a few self protection talents as well. Will have a hard time to support divers, which doesn't bother me as the Terran Heroes aren't divers and Team Terran is reality with her.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44334 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-27 14:47:13
September 27 2015 14:43 GMT
#27
On September 27 2015 22:51 karazax wrote:
Overview of Artanis:
How Artanis might change the Heroes meta


Sexy *-* He's going to come out around 3 weeks from now? Since Lt. Morales is this week's patched hero?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44334 Posts
September 27 2015 14:55 GMT
#28
http://www.heroesnexus.com/talent-calculator/60-artanis?filter-ptr=1#8AA

Artanis's positional swap Phase Prism move (E) sounds pretty cool, especially as a way to escape from a wombo combo or grab and throw an opponent into one.

The Suppression Pulse heroic sounds a lot like Nova's Precision Strike heroic, even going so far as to offer a second charge at level 20.

Purifier Beam heroic also has unlimited range, so it sounds like it's stronger than Nova's Triple Tap just by that alone... but I also wonder if it's unblockable/ undodgeable too o.O That can't possibly be right...
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
September 27 2015 15:37 GMT
#29
Based on this post, Morales won't be until next week, which makes sense with the PTR not going live until Monday.

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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6929 Posts
September 28 2015 11:15 GMT
#30
Artanis sounds like a monster!

As solo warrior he has an incredible amount of survivability and in a 2+ warrior comp he can deal out a good amount of damage while also bringing good utility with phase prism and the dashing

Good thing i already bought him with LotV :D
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Garbels
Profile Joined July 2010
Austria653 Posts
September 28 2015 12:05 GMT
#31
Expand on that last part.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
September 28 2015 12:13 GMT
#32
Artanis will have to be at 50% health to use his trait. Quite scary to go that low before your trait kicks in. Especially since the shield will basically announce -> burst me down now or I'll never die.
He will be a QM death machine though. Maybe easy mode Illidan ? xD
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6929 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-28 13:09:23
September 28 2015 13:05 GMT
#33
On September 28 2015 21:05 Garbels wrote:
Expand on that last part.


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StarCraft II Warrior in Heroes of the Storm
Purchase Legacy of the Void and gain access to an upcoming, to-be-revealed StarCraft II Warrior hero for in Heroes of the Storm. Bring the Void to the Nexus!


On September 28 2015 21:13 FeyFey wrote:
Artanis will have to be at 50% health to use his trait. Quite scary to go that low before your trait kicks in. Especially since the shield will basically announce -> burst me down now or I'll never die.
He will be a QM death machine though. Maybe easy mode Illidan ? xD


True but he got that talent at 13 i believe which will give him even more shield, plus the CD reduction and easy escapes.
And when ppl think "burst him down" all that damage will be just shields meaning useless. And if it becomes really bad, there is still Uhter
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44334 Posts
September 28 2015 15:08 GMT
#34
On September 28 2015 22:05 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2015 21:05 Garbels wrote:
Expand on that last part.


us.battle.net

Show nested quote +
StarCraft II Warrior in Heroes of the Storm
Purchase Legacy of the Void and gain access to an upcoming, to-be-revealed StarCraft II Warrior hero for in Heroes of the Storm. Bring the Void to the Nexus!



So since I preordered LotV, Artanis should be free for me? How do I activate that in the shop, or will he just get patched in as bought by me?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
September 28 2015 15:13 GMT
#35
presumably it will work like it did for diablo 3's free diablo promo: you just get it on your linked heroes account.
Don't Panic
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44334 Posts
September 28 2015 15:14 GMT
#36
On September 29 2015 00:13 MotherFox wrote:
presumably it will work like it did for diablo 3's free diablo promo: you just get it on your linked heroes account.


Okay cool! I already had Diablo at the time so I'm unfamiliar with how a previous example played out. Thanks
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
September 28 2015 15:25 GMT
#37
On September 27 2015 20:07 FeyFey wrote:
Medic will be like Brightwing, no real self heals D:


She gets a talent where her healing beam will also heal herself at the cost of additional mana.

Also for her burst heal I think most logically you will place your beam on the most prime target and then Safeguard that target as well. She has a talent where after a period of channeling your beam on an individual it gains a more powerful heal. Combined with the Safeguard mitigation and the uber beam she may be able to rapidly heal up damage.
Wat
FreeZEternal
Profile Joined January 2003
Korea (South)3396 Posts
September 28 2015 15:50 GMT
#38
The best thing about these changes are group replay view. Finally....
Leolio
Profile Joined April 2012
France633 Posts
September 28 2015 16:23 GMT
#39
Artanis comes with the digital deluxe edition to my knowledge. You basically pay 20 $ for dlc for diablo, wow, heroes.
MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
September 28 2015 16:38 GMT
#40
On September 29 2015 01:23 Leolio wrote:
Artanis comes with the digital deluxe edition to my knowledge. You basically pay 20 $ for dlc for diablo, wow, heroes.


He is supposed to come with all preorders, not just the digital deluxe.
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