EPTedit: Cho'gall now too lol.
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Valiver
Caldeum1977 Posts
edit: Cho'gall now too lol. | ||
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Ramiz1989
12124 Posts
On November 29 2015 08:02 Valiver wrote: Towers of Doom hype guys! edit: Cho'gall now too lol. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44019 Posts
On November 29 2015 06:53 Ramiz1989 wrote: http://www.twitch.tv/khaldor Khaldor is casting Enter the Storm NA, and Bob Ross Fan Club(Zuna and Arthelon are on that team) just had really stupid victory over Murloc Geniuses. Yeah seriously, Murlocs had an autowin and then just... lol. | ||
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Slydie
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Ej_
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http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/Khaldor/popout e: whoah yeah lol, that MAlfurion pick from Marlon Geniuses seems random | ||
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Ramiz1989
12124 Posts
On November 30 2015 05:07 Ej_ wrote: Enter the Storm NA quali #6 is live http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/Khaldor/popout e: whoah yeah lol, that MAlfurion pick from Marlon Geniuses seems random Whenever I see MG I feel like they are trying to force some pick into their draft... Even at Blizzcon qualifiers they were trying out Thrall and Rexxar and it didn't work at all. Not saying that it won't work now since Thrall is in much better place, but still their drafts really do seem random. | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On November 30 2015 05:17 Ramiz1989 wrote: Whenever I see MG I feel like they are trying to force some pick into their draft... Even at Blizzcon qualifiers they were trying out Thrall and Rexxar and it didn't work at all. Not saying that it won't work now since Thrall is in much better place, but still their drafts really do seem random. I just don't get this at all. With Uther they would have a divine shield for ETC, Sonya and Thrall (and additional stun for even more lockdown). They take Malfurion instead and still conjurer's pursuit on Jaina. Maybe I'm just way too scrub to understand it. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44019 Posts
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
As for the conjurer on Jaina, seems like pros currently blindly go for one build, so they can train with a larger hero pool. One reason why Valla is almost extinct. | ||
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Ramiz1989
12124 Posts
On November 30 2015 08:53 FeyFey wrote: As for the conjurer on Jaina, seems like pros currently blindly go for one build, so they can train with a larger hero pool. One reason why Valla is almost extinct. Uh where did you get this from? I've seen a lot of different Jaina's builds lately in the pro scene. From that Frostbolt spam, to the standard build and hybrid between frostbolt and standard. It is just that people are still people, they make errors and often make oversights. Also, Valla is not extinct at all, it is just that Falstad is currently doing the same thing while also having massive disengage heroic that can save your whole team if used correctly at the right time. I was really bored with the Dreamhack and hero pool that we saw being used there, but at least these NA qualifiers gave me some hope that patch still isn't figured out yet. We are waiting too long for some Korean tournament.  | ||
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Foxxan
Sweden3427 Posts
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
Its not everyone, but its annoying to see it being so widespread lately. Of course that is personal opinion I like playing the right talents, not the ones I feel good with. And those guys train together, so switching it up just because the enemy composition went other then planned, might ruin their coordination. | ||
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Wuster
1974 Posts
On November 30 2015 12:07 xDaunt wrote: There definitely wasn't a lot of experimentation by the time that the semi-finals and finals rolled around. Most of the picks were fairly vanilla in that the same 10-15 heroes were constantly picked and banned. I didn't watch the entire thing but it certainly felt like the Falstad show towards the end. Also, it turned out Tyrael's reign was short lived, which isn't that surprising. Teams just had to retrain their instincts to back off after hard engaging rather than sticking it out until the bitter end. Which is something they've already shown they can do with mistimed Divine Palms (it's funny watching a palmed hero rushing headlong into the enemy team trying to get a proc). | ||
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Ramiz1989
12124 Posts
On December 01 2015 03:21 Wuster wrote: I didn't watch the entire thing but it certainly felt like the Falstad show towards the end. Also, it turned out Tyrael's reign was short lived, which isn't that surprising. Teams just had to retrain their instincts to back off after hard engaging rather than sticking it out until the bitter end. Which is something they've already shown they can do with mistimed Divine Palms (it's funny watching a palmed hero rushing headlong into the enemy team trying to get a proc). Not just towards the end, I am pretty sure that Falstad was banned/picked in every match lol. | ||
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Wuster
1974 Posts
Edit: Actually here's an infographic, doesn't have Falstad anywhere! http://www.g2esports.com/dreamhack-all-stars-winter-infographic/ I did see another one that had Tyrael as bottom-3 win-rate too. | ||
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karazax
United States3737 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://www.g2esports.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/DH-All-stars-championship.jpg) | ||
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Ramiz1989
12124 Posts
On December 01 2015 03:45 Wuster wrote: You're probably right. I only watched 2 games or so during the group stages and recall seeing him then too. Edit: Actually here's an infographic, doesn't have Falstad anywhere! http://www.g2esports.com/dreamhack-all-stars-winter-infographic/ I did see another one that had Tyrael as bottom-3 win-rate too. Yeah lol, he has been top 3 pick, almost in 100% of the games in one way or another. :D | ||
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Perseverance
Japan2800 Posts
On November 30 2015 09:15 Ramiz1989 wrote: Uh where did you get this from? I've seen a lot of different Jaina's builds lately in the pro scene. From that Frostbolt spam, to the standard build and hybrid between frostbolt and standard. It is just that people are still people, they make errors and often make oversights. Also, Valla is not extinct at all, it is just that Falstad is currently doing the same thing while also having massive disengage heroic that can save your whole team if used correctly at the right time. I was really bored with the Dreamhack and hero pool that we saw being used there, but at least these NA qualifiers gave me some hope that patch still isn't figured out yet. We are waiting too long for some Korean tournament. Why do you feel we need a korean tournament? | ||
EsportsJohn
United States4883 Posts
On December 01 2015 15:03 Perseverance wrote: Why do you feel we need a korean tournament? Koreans are well known for experimenting and doing more interesting Hero combinations. For instance, Koreans were doing ETC and Santification Tyreal long before it caught on in NA/EU. NA and EU tend to get stale after the meta settles and stick to fairly limited Hero pools and strategies. Also, I just think the Koreans play very aggressively, and that makes them very interesting to watch. | ||
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