Free Heroes for the week of December 22 - December 28:
- Malfurion
- Valla
- Arthas
- Kharazim
- Tyrael
- Zagara
- Kerrigan (Available after you reach player level 5)
- Chen (7)
- Kael'thas (12)
- Murky (15)
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Valiver
Caldeum1977 Posts
Free Heroes for the week of December 22 - December 28:
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[Phantom]
Mexico2170 Posts
RIP quickmatch, i dom't plan to even touch that thing, looks like only coop and hero league this time. Or maybe i'll troll with murky, who knows, how do people build him? is the hotlogs talent section trsuteable for him since he doesn't see any play at the competitive level? | ||
kingjames01
Canada1603 Posts
On March 18 2015 05:08 [Phantom] wrote: Murky free week. RIP quickmatch, i dom't plan to even touch that thing, looks like only coop and hero league this time. Or maybe i'll troll with murky, who knows, how do people build him? is the hotlogs talent section trsuteable for him since he doesn't see any play at the competitive level? Check out this comprehensive answer by NickHotS: Murky Thought Process and Builds | ||
Hryul
Austria2609 Posts
just requires a bit of thinking ahead. | ||
kingjames01
Canada1603 Posts
I'm glad Anub'arak is free this week. He's one of 3 Heroes I have left that aren't Level 5 or higher. I WANT THAT FREE GOLD!! | ||
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Canada1603 Posts
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KobraKay
Portugal4231 Posts
On March 31 2015 11:11 kingjames01 wrote: This week's (March 31, 2015 - April 6, 2015) Free Hero Rotation:
Sigh...not that fun of a week for me then. The two I like, Diablo (is the only one I own) and Zeratul (was going to be my next buy) are going to get a lot of usage this week ^^. Maybe I'll get a few of the others to level 5 for that gold reward. I am hoping for an Azmodan, Abathur free week ![]() | ||
MarlieChurphy
United States2063 Posts
When is Sylvannas going to be on rotation and drop in gold price? I thought they generally do 1 week? | ||
NihilisticGod
Northern Ireland174 Posts
On March 31 2015 19:53 MarlieChurphy wrote: When is Sylvannas going to be on rotation and drop in gold price? I thought they generally do 1 week? I see the Lost Vikings are down to 10k but still yet to see them on rotation. Could be a good while before we see Sylvannas on rotation to try out in a game! | ||
Big G
Italy835 Posts
On March 31 2015 19:53 MarlieChurphy wrote: OP needs to be updated to change the date each time or just remove the date all together and be stickied. When is Sylvannas going to be on rotation and drop in gold price? I thought they generally do 1 week? Price drop after 2 weeks Free rotation... only Blizzard knows. I think we'll see the Vikings for the first time in the next couple of weeks. | ||
Luiwtf
England217 Posts
On March 31 2015 19:53 MarlieChurphy wrote: OP needs to be updated to change the date each time or just remove the date all together and be stickied. When is Sylvannas going to be on rotation and drop in gold price? I thought they generally do 1 week? New heroes drop from 15k to 10k after 2 weeks, so she should be 10k next week. No idea when she'll go free rotation though, TLV haven't been on yet. Just had a look, Thrall was released on the 13th of Jan, he went on the free rotation for the first time on the 24th of Feb, so 6 weeks gap. Jaina was released on the 2nd of Dec, and went on free rotation on the 6th of Jan, so 5 weeks gap for her. TLV were released on the 10th of Feb, it's been 7 weeks since then, so going by Thrall and Jaina they're due to be on rotation, but I'm not sure if Blizzard will actually put them on rotation any time soon. | ||
kingjames01
Canada1603 Posts
Other than what my Daily Quests force me to do, I think I'll be playing Gazlowe and Tyrande this week. | ||
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
On March 31 2015 23:09 Radfield wrote: Sweet rotation for me this week. Really looking forward to playing Tychus, Zeratul and Tyrande! Radfield! Loooooong time no see! :D On March 31 2015 11:11 kingjames01 wrote: This week's (March 31, 2015 - April 6, 2015) Free Hero Rotation:
I just shamefully stole this to post in the op, thanks man! ^^ | ||
FT.aCt)Sony
United States1047 Posts
Page has reflected the free hero rotation for the week. | ||
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Canada2720 Posts
On April 01 2015 00:36 GMarshal wrote: Show nested quote + On March 31 2015 23:09 Radfield wrote: Sweet rotation for me this week. Really looking forward to playing Tychus, Zeratul and Tyrande! Radfield! Loooooong time no see! :D Good to see you too :D Life is busy busy, but I've been thoroughly enjoying playing hots the last month or so. Still working my way through learning the characters, but so far so good. | ||
Wuster
1974 Posts
On March 31 2015 23:09 Radfield wrote: Sweet rotation for me this week. Really looking forward to playing Tychus, Zeratul and Tyrande! Same here minus Tychus (as I own him). Really curious how Zeratul and Tyrande feel now. Way back in Alpha I only played co-op until I had one of those games where I landed everything with Tyrande, which convinced me I was ready for Quick Match. So I've always had a soft spot in my heart for her. | ||
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Germany10114 Posts
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Wuster
1974 Posts
I am surprised how much more useful Apoc is than the last time I played. One game we landed this combo - Roots, Overpower into them, Zombie Wall then Apoc. It was pretty funny watching them explode. We had a Gazlowe on the team too, but we didn't need his contribution since we were snowballing hard on Sky Temple so level lead was more than enough damage. It's also pretty gratifying being able to use Shadow Charge and Overpower to *put* people into avoidable CC. One thing I'm starting to notice with Diablo is you never know how much HP he has due to his trait. So you can see him at half health and have no idea what that means. It makes people overcommit to killing him or scared to waste their rotation on you sometimes. I had a game where my screen turned red for low damage but I had 2.5k hp pre-lvl 20. His health pool really is insane. I suppose it has to be since every other Warrior minus Muradin (who gets an escape) has either on-demand healing or a shield (Sonya's healing sucks, I know). | ||
739
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
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Wuster
1974 Posts
Nova is my guilty pleasure though and I own / not interested in any of the others. So decisions, decisions! | ||
Nizaris
Belgium2230 Posts
edit: Nova is awesome fun. | ||
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Canada2720 Posts
I'm hoping to see Hammer, Jaina, Illidan and Chen in the coming weeks! | ||
Alexc26
United Kingdom222 Posts
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RiZu
Singapore5715 Posts
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4tre55
Germany330 Posts
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739
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
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Dekalinder
Italy166 Posts
Basically, the point i'm tring to make is that, while tassadar may counter nova in straight engagements, the correct nova playstyle brings her to never actually be near tassadar unless is for cleanup duty. | ||
Tenks
United States3104 Posts
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
Nova vs Nova is so weird. It is only about denying the other Novas stacks and not dieing. And praying that you don't end up fighting Tyrael and Sonya with Tassadar around. | ||
Dekalinder
Italy166 Posts
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kingjames01
Canada1603 Posts
On April 08 2015 20:24 RiZu wrote: Zagara is by far my favorite hero in this week rotation, I just love to spread dem creeps all over the map. That hero also does amazing damage in 1 v 1 and just straight up destroy any lane 1 v 1 and do well even in 1 v 2 situation early. Double Hunter killer is just too much ![]() I agree. This will be a Zagara week for me! | ||
Thezzy
Netherlands2117 Posts
I bought her as my first hero and never regretted it. She's a ton of fun, even with a bad team you can still contribute so much. Usually my talents are: Creep Heal Envenomed Spines (+20% range & extra AA dmg over time) Endless Creep (50% more creep and more health on tumors) Maw (I've tried Nydus and it's good but Maw is just too good in a teamfight) Mutalisk 2x Mutalisk Bolt of the Storm The amount of damage you can put out with double Mutalisk and your AA builds up very fast. With Endless Creep, your entire lane should be covered in creep from top to bottom. Make sure to overlay your creep zones a bit so that the opponent has no idea where the tumors are. Always place creep tumors in bushes and edges and then work your way in. A creep tumor in the middle of the lane is just AoE bait. Always creep up the objectives and bushes as much as possible. Having a creep tumor in the vents or below Blackheart on his map provides great intel. Mutalisks have two massive advantages, which are that they can fly and thus ignore any obstacles on the ground, and that they last 50% longer. They will whittle down a Hero so fast if they are not killed. Many Heroes have died to a Mutalisk chasing them down. How I usually play Zagara once she gets AA range talent is to poke/bully the enemy heroes as much as possible and keeping an eye on the bushes. Ambushing Zagara should be nearly impossible with good creep spread, Nova + Zeratul combo excepted. If an enemy hero is in the bushes, throw Banelings on them and a Drop Pod, since they are your harder abilities to land. Against Assassins, the Hydra and later Mutalisk will keep them at bay at risk of losing health. If an Assassin jumps you and they are alone, turn around and murder them. I've had a lot of Valla's, Nova's and even Thrall's trying to solo Zagara and losing painfully due to the raw damage output of double Mutalisk, Banelings to the face, Drop Pod and Auto-Attack, not to mention your regeneration on creep. Her Maw is essentially her version of Zeratul's Void Prison and should be used as such. This means you keep it off cooldown for that one teamfight where it will make all the difference. Only use it against single Heroes or without your team nearby if it saves you or a teammate. Note that the Maw itself acts like a forcefield for its duration and can be used to block an area for a few precious seconds. Nydus provides amazing split-pushing potential and even a decent escape, but at the cost of not having Maw. That all said, Zagara is a squishy with no CC other than her Maw and off creep you will know it. Stay on creep and make sure the creep stays up. It will provide you with a near immunity to ambushes if you play it carefully and you can freely and endlessly harass Heroes on creep because you will be faster and regenerate whatever pokes they give back. Other things to note: You can use Banelings to zone out a fleeing Hero. Roll the Baneling ahead of the Hero, forcing them to either eat the Baneling damage, or stop and face whatever they are fleeing from. When dealing with a Boss, alternate Drop Pod and Hunter Killer. A Boss will always go for the Drop Pod Roachlings if you drop them on his head. Once they die, deploy Hunter Killer and it should go for that. By the time that dies, Drop Pod should be off cooldown again, rinse and repeat. Drop Pod has quite a range on it and actually deals decent damage on impact against another squishy. Don't be afraid to land a Drop Pod ahead of a low-health hero and nab a kill. The best advice I could give to new Zagara players is to just spread that creep. Every bush, every corner and one next to your gate/fountain. Always stay on creep and always make sure the creep Trait is on cooldown. | ||
kingjames01
Canada1603 Posts
I don't have any of the images to format this post the way that 739 did last week. Hopefully 739 or someone can replicate that post again! | ||
Thezzy
Netherlands2117 Posts
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Canada2720 Posts
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Ghostcom
Denmark4782 Posts
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KobraKay
Portugal4231 Posts
Other than that, this week I could only see fun in playing Valla (already played 2 weeks I believe) and Sonya (I really liked the combination of her talents, one of the first heroes I leveled to 5 to get that 500g bónus :D). Last week was pretty good, several heroes that I wanted to try out. I have to say that Tassadar was the most surprising, had a lot of fun with him. The lane clearing and xp contribution are great and you can also put in some clutch healings. | ||
Nizaris
Belgium2230 Posts
On April 14 2015 02:45 Thezzy wrote: Hammer on free rotation, the B.net forums will likely be filled up with Hammer OP topics once again, just like with poor Nova this week. Valla is way too often on rotation, probably since a lot of players already have her via D3 RoS. lol nova is the slayer of noobs not surprised they are crying ![]() | ||
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Canada2720 Posts
I really wish you could play the free weekly heroes in Hero League. | ||
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Valiver
Caldeum1977 Posts
On April 14 2015 23:51 Radfield wrote: It's always satisfying getting the jump on a nova/zeratul who thinks they are hidden. I mean, you know there is a cloaked unit in the game, so you should be constantly prepped for it. I really wish you could play the free weekly heroes in Hero League. Yeah they should let anyone who has a free hero level 5 or so play them in hero league, or at least team league. In team league everyone's partied so they should be able to make the decision of if they want someone playing a free hero they might not be the best with. | ||
Big G
Italy835 Posts
Arthas E.T.C. Kerrigan Li Li Tychus Nazeebo (lvl12) Illidan (lvl15) AKA "who has the worst Illidan loses" week | ||
Leolio X
France26 Posts
On April 20 2015 22:48 Big G wrote: AKA "who has the worst Illidan loses" week This. Illidan is such a strong and cool character in the Warcraft universe every newcomer wants to use him, and since he's arguably the most difficult assassin to handle, it never ends up well. | ||
Zidane
United States1686 Posts
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Wuster
1974 Posts
There are mechanical points to not mess up though. Overusing skills will *lower* your dps and screw up your body blocking / positioning, which can be the difference between getting a kill and overextending and dying yourself. Then there's Evasion timings, but that starts to get into what really makes Illidan hard: I would argue that he requires some of the best decision making to play right. He's relatively squishy and his kit really forces you to get in close (I would argue even more so than most Melee Assassins). It's absolutely critical to know when to dive and when to chase fleeing units. As said, without a good support you will die, so you *have* to know that you'll at least get the kill. Edit: Just watched Cal Berkley - Kansas State in Heroes of the Dorm and Fan really put on an Illidan clinic. In the final highlight he dives in without hesitation and half way through the fight is on the backline waiting to heal up. He doesn't just stay there to die - really great discipline / decision making. Of course they outmatches their opponents... but still fun to watch. | ||
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Germany10114 Posts
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
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Thezzy
Netherlands2117 Posts
Both heroes absolutely melt if they just jump in, which a lot of them will be doing. Rarely see Kerrigan in QM outside of my own games when I play her but this week she'll probably be in every game. As for Illidan, so many players will not be prepared! ![]() | ||
kingjames01
Canada1603 Posts
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Solmyr
Poland261 Posts
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Nizaris
Belgium2230 Posts
On April 28 2015 16:19 Solmyr wrote: Any builds for Zeratul?I have never played him. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/heroes/482402-the-big-book-of-zeratul | ||
DarkPlasmaBall
United States44321 Posts
On April 21 2015 00:25 Leolio X wrote: This. Illidan is such a strong and cool character in the Warcraft universe every newcomer wants to use him, and since he's arguably the most difficult assassin to handle, it never ends up well. Yep, I played with him for a few games and I felt absolutely retarded playing as him >.< I guess it didn't help that I wasn't playing with friends/ other people who knew how to play as a team. | ||
Immersion_
United Kingdom794 Posts
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kingjames01
Canada1603 Posts
On April 29 2015 03:47 Immersion_ wrote: Woop can try Gazlowe and get to 5 on him. Gazlowe is really fun to play! I asked about him a few weeks ago when he was free and got a really good description/explanation of how to utilize him. I can look it up. Edit: Here it is: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/heroes/480786-simple-questions-simple-answers?page=3#42 | ||
DarkPlasmaBall
United States44321 Posts
On April 29 2015 03:47 Immersion_ wrote: Woop can try Gazlowe and get to 5 on him. I really like playing with him ![]() | ||
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Hryul
Austria2609 Posts
a bit confused about TLV. are they the new murky who never get into the free rot? | ||
KobraKay
Portugal4231 Posts
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4tre55
Germany330 Posts
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Solid Jake
United States77 Posts
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kingjames01
Canada1603 Posts
It'll be my first chance to play her! | ||
Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
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serum321
United States606 Posts
On May 05 2015 07:22 Hryul wrote: again nova and free sylvanas. great, now we all can be imba! a bit confused about TLV. are they the new murky who never get into the free rot? Yeah, weird sylvanas would get put into free rotation before tlv. Also abathur has only been in free rotation I think once since the wipe and that free week was like 5 months ago. | ||
DarkPlasmaBall
United States44321 Posts
On May 05 2015 11:12 kingjames01 wrote: Sylvanas!!! It'll be my first chance to play her! Love her ![]() | ||
Wuster
1974 Posts
On May 05 2015 11:12 kingjames01 wrote: Sylvanas!!! It'll be my first chance to play her! Ditto, she is as fun as advertised. Taking some getting use do since she's paper thin and her escape is really slow so you have to use it predictively which is hard with how little hp she has. But offensively she's very fun, Wailing Arrow has so many uses and is surprisingly easy to time. Really fun to play. Also Chen players have gotten really good or something, because I keep seeing immortal Chens. First match last night was Cursed Hallow with 2 Chens, do you know how long the cursed tribute fight took? Let's just say I was able to use multiple heroics, pretty insane. | ||
BeMannerDuPenner
Germany5638 Posts
On May 06 2015 00:05 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Show nested quote + On May 05 2015 11:12 kingjames01 wrote: Sylvanas!!! It'll be my first chance to play her! Love her ![]() my brother was annoyed when i played her the first times cause i was laughing so hard about how op she is. ![]() well they dont wanna nerf her apparently so once patch is out most likely ill spent some of the saved up gold on her. | ||
boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
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kingjames01
Canada1603 Posts
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Germany10114 Posts
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Immersion_
United Kingdom794 Posts
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Big G
Italy835 Posts
Raynor Muradin Anub'arak Brightwing Kerrigan Nazeebo (Available after you reach player level 12) Lost Vikings ![]() | ||
Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On May 19 2015 01:49 Big G wrote: Week of Tuesday, May 19, 2015: Raynor Muradin Anub'arak Brightwing Kerrigan Nazeebo (Available after you reach player level 12) Lost Vikings ![]() Fuck the God Damn Lost Vikings. This week is going to be so miserable. | ||
Darthsanta13
United States564 Posts
Side note, but I would've expected a much different rotation for the first week of open beta. More iconic/easy to grasp heroes. TLV and Brightwing stick out like a sore thumb in this regard. | ||
Wuster
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MarlieChurphy
United States2063 Posts
On May 19 2015 02:14 Stratos_speAr wrote: Show nested quote + On May 19 2015 01:49 Big G wrote: Week of Tuesday, May 19, 2015: Raynor Muradin Anub'arak Brightwing Kerrigan Nazeebo (Available after you reach player level 12) Lost Vikings ![]() Fuck the God Damn Lost Vikings. This week is going to be so miserable. Just pick zeratul and nova. Ez wins. FREE ABAUTHUR http://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/36hykd/abathur_hasnt_been_free_since_november/ ![]() | ||
Big G
Italy835 Posts
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xuanzue
Colombia1747 Posts
but never figured how to solo any boss. | ||
FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
I am to scared to mess up horribly with Vikings. Like the one viking that left the game after 7 minutes, because he couldn't handle splitting them. My team gave him horrible advices though. I would pick Zagara currently though, Endless creep preventing 70% of idiot deaths and Mutas love Vikings for dinner. Funny thing 3 times cursed and everytime one opponent was sitting in the bushes that you pass while lane switching top/mid. They were really surprised that roaches landed on their head and decided to engage a Zagara 1v1 on level 1. So be aware people know where you want to place your Tumors. Also no risk of losing your stacks and getting overrun in a few minutes in the lategame. | ||
nunnner
Canada26 Posts
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Wuster
1974 Posts
On May 21 2015 00:19 nunnner wrote: BW is a ton of fun, finally got to play her this week. LTV are really tough. Played 1 game with them and the play style was so different. I played with them and at one point had 10k experience contribution with the next highest at 5k. They did a ton of work too with jump/z to surround then spin to win while the team focused down the trapped hero. That was satisfying, almost like playing WC3 again. On the other hand the periods where I was split soaking was miserable... if I wanted to play SC2, I would... I just want to focus on microing a single guy for all I can rather than constantly toggling hot keys. Didn't help that I had input lag changing between vikings (probably my system, but who knows). Overall, once I grouped up and had Long Boat Raid, man they were beastly. Also, Norse Force comes so late in the game that I kept forgetting to use it lol. I had fun playing them, but I think only once. Thank god I'm talent unlocked cuz I can't imagine trying them talent gated. | ||
DarkPlasmaBall
United States44321 Posts
On May 20 2015 09:40 Big G wrote: Well on my first quick match ever with the Vikings I lived the dream of taking both shrines and the DK at the same time. Feels good man. Same here :D | ||
Donger
United States147 Posts
On May 21 2015 03:43 Wuster wrote: Show nested quote + On May 21 2015 00:19 nunnner wrote: BW is a ton of fun, finally got to play her this week. LTV are really tough. Played 1 game with them and the play style was so different. I played with them and at one point had 10k experience contribution with the next highest at 5k. They did a ton of work too with jump/z to surround then spin to win while the team focused down the trapped hero. That was satisfying, almost like playing WC3 again. On the other hand the periods where I was split soaking was miserable... if I wanted to play SC2, I would... I just want to focus on microing a single guy for all I can rather than constantly toggling hot keys. Didn't help that I had input lag changing between vikings (probably my system, but who knows). Overall, once I grouped up and had Long Boat Raid, man they were beastly. Also, Norse Force comes so late in the game that I kept forgetting to use it lol. I had fun playing them, but I think only once. Thank god I'm talent unlocked cuz I can't imagine trying them talent gated. I have this same problem! I posted twice on the Battle.net forums asking them about it, but I am either posting it wrong or they are deleting my posts because I can never find it. It's frustrating. | ||
Big G
Italy835 Posts
Malfurion Valla Stitches Arthas Tyrande Zagara (lvl12) Illidan (lvl15) | ||
Thezzy
Netherlands2117 Posts
They will not be prepared. | ||
Wuster
1974 Posts
On May 25 2015 20:36 Thezzy wrote: Oh boy free Illidan week. They will not be prepared. During ALpha someone told me to beware Tyrael and Illidan free weeks after the game opens up, the newbs to farm! | ||
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Valiver
Caldeum1977 Posts
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
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Kupo
Sweden151 Posts
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Darthsanta13
United States564 Posts
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JCoto
Spain574 Posts
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
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Thezzy
Netherlands2117 Posts
I've had cases where we had a Malfurion all game long that healed for like 6k total when the game ended. Only healed himself even when Diablo was dying next to him. They also have a tendency (especially Tyrande) to overestimate their position and get killed. Supports need to stay back or they'll get focused and die. Many of them that aren't Tassadar can be ganked quite easily if the enemy team knows what they're doing. Tyrande, Malfurion and Uther can all die to a gank without much chance for survival. And it stings when your team overall is doing well, but you're stuck with a Tyrande that isn't healing anything and has more deaths than kills to her name. | ||
Wuster
1974 Posts
I had a game last night where our Sylvanas was bragging about her hero damage (40k!) while glossing over that she by far the most deaths (11 out of 27, next up was a Nova that quietly died 8 times by over-relying on cloak). She didn't even finish with top takedowns cuz she was always dead! | ||
FT.aCt)Sony
United States1047 Posts
On May 27 2015 03:10 Wuster wrote: So disheartening to have lost that game because of feeders, so I feel your pain. I had a game last night where our Sylvanas was bragging about her hero damage (40k!) while glossing over that she by far the most deaths (11 out of 27, next up was a Nova that quietly died 8 times by over-relying on cloak). She didn't even finish with top takedowns cuz she was always dead! When I play Sylvannas, I get upwards to 150k hero dmg and 80-120k siege damage. 40k is chump change. | ||
Wuster
1974 Posts
So back on topic, now that we have easy to mess up heroes on rotation this week any of you guys going to mess around with random builds? I'm planning to try an AA / Lifesteal Illidan build, will probably fail horribly but could scale well on the right map. | ||
Thezzy
Netherlands2117 Posts
Doubt I'll take Focused Attack over Envenom, since the total damage will simply be lower. So that means: Marksman on 1 Envenom on 4 Searing on 7 Maelstrom on 10 (Ultra is meh) Double Strike on 13 I guess...I don't really get this talent. Kerrigan blows all her abilities at once except Ravage so you only get one Basic Attack that gets amplified for 50% dmg. Assuming say 40 marksman stacks and Nexus Blades, she does around 360 damage per hit. Double Strike would only add about 180+ to that. Not a lot. And I have to give up Sprint for it. Blood for Blood on 16, although with an AA build the double shielding would be decent, but Blood for Blood is just to good. Nexus Blades on 20 Does mean no Blink and no Adaptation though. Not much else to really go for on Kerrigan besides the standard build. I might stick with Tyrande if I want an AA build now that I think of it. Hers is just nasty with the Hunter's Mark attack speed talent + Searing Arrows + Nexus Frenzy. And you can still provide a bit of healing and a stun. As for other builds, I've been wondering if a Rewind build on Anub'Arak could work instead of beetle build and fully focusing on his main talents instead. So that means the Impale talents, Underking, Epicenter and stuff like that. I wonder if double Epicenter could cause some damage compared to the beetles. Might still go Regen master though, since I don't really see what is good about having 25% more length on Impale. You're rarely going to kill someone with it, and if you nab someone at the very end of that additional 25%, they'll still get away due to the distance. The length isn't really an issue for me. | ||
xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On May 27 2015 03:22 FT.aCt)Sony wrote: Show nested quote + On May 27 2015 03:10 Wuster wrote: So disheartening to have lost that game because of feeders, so I feel your pain. I had a game last night where our Sylvanas was bragging about her hero damage (40k!) while glossing over that she by far the most deaths (11 out of 27, next up was a Nova that quietly died 8 times by over-relying on cloak). She didn't even finish with top takedowns cuz she was always dead! When I play Sylvannas, I get upwards to 150k hero dmg and 80-120k siege damage. 40k is chump change. Sylvanas's hero damage stats are always deceptively high. Because of her dagger, she shits out a ton of largely meaningless damage. When you really get down to it, however, she just doesn't hit that hard (not that she should). Compare her damage output to someone like Zeratul. He'll typically have half the hero damage that she does, but his translates far more efficiently into kills than hers. | ||
Tenks
United States3104 Posts
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On May 27 2015 04:27 Tenks wrote: All the numbers are pretty meaningless. If someone is using them as either an attack or defense that player is probably the actual problem with the team. The only ones that really matter are takedowns and deaths. If you're running a high T/D ratio, you're almost certainly playing well. | ||
Tenks
United States3104 Posts
On May 27 2015 04:39 xDaunt wrote: Show nested quote + On May 27 2015 04:27 Tenks wrote: All the numbers are pretty meaningless. If someone is using them as either an attack or defense that player is probably the actual problem with the team. The only ones that really matter are takedowns and deaths. If you're running a high T/D ratio, you're almost certainly playing well. Yes and sometimes the ratio isn't quite as important as winning the game. If you're the hard initiate chances are you will probably die most team fights assuming the other team is well coordinated. But as long as you set up the fight to lead your team into an advantageous spot your life was well spent. Usually a few signs of incompetence is low kills compared to the entire team (not participating in fights) or an abnormally high ratio (but that could also be because your team is simply losing.) I can't count the number of Zags who are AFK split pushing the entire game just sicking hydras on heroes that come near and then go "Not my fault! Look at my hero damage!" to justify having to 4v5 all game. | ||
Yoav
United States1874 Posts
On May 27 2015 04:39 xDaunt wrote: Show nested quote + On May 27 2015 04:27 Tenks wrote: All the numbers are pretty meaningless. If someone is using them as either an attack or defense that player is probably the actual problem with the team. The only ones that really matter are takedowns and deaths. If you're running a high T/D ratio, you're almost certainly playing well. I mean, I think you're not wrong, but there are absolutely characters who excel particularly at this... like, say, Zeratul. This characteristic is part of why he can carry games so well, but it does mean his T/D is generally extra high. | ||
xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On May 27 2015 06:00 Yoav wrote: Show nested quote + On May 27 2015 04:39 xDaunt wrote: On May 27 2015 04:27 Tenks wrote: All the numbers are pretty meaningless. If someone is using them as either an attack or defense that player is probably the actual problem with the team. The only ones that really matter are takedowns and deaths. If you're running a high T/D ratio, you're almost certainly playing well. I mean, I think you're not wrong, but there are absolutely characters who excel particularly at this... like, say, Zeratul. This characteristic is part of why he can carry games so well, but it does mean his T/D is generally extra high. Having a high T/D ratio is more of a function of not dying than being involved in a lot of takedowns. Again, my general thought on death is that every death is preventable to one degree or another. Even if I am playing someone who is not Zeratul, I pride myself on generally having the lowest number of deaths on the team. | ||
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[Phantom]
Mexico2170 Posts
On May 27 2015 06:12 xDaunt wrote: Show nested quote + On May 27 2015 06:00 Yoav wrote: On May 27 2015 04:39 xDaunt wrote: On May 27 2015 04:27 Tenks wrote: All the numbers are pretty meaningless. If someone is using them as either an attack or defense that player is probably the actual problem with the team. The only ones that really matter are takedowns and deaths. If you're running a high T/D ratio, you're almost certainly playing well. I mean, I think you're not wrong, but there are absolutely characters who excel particularly at this... like, say, Zeratul. This characteristic is part of why he can carry games so well, but it does mean his T/D is generally extra high. Having a high T/D ratio is more of a function of not dying than being involved in a lot of takedowns. Again, my general thought on death is that every death is preventable to one degree or another. Even if I am playing someone who is not Zeratul, I pride myself on generally having the lowest number of deaths on the team. What if you run away from teamfights leaving your friends to die? Then you'll also have the lowest death count. | ||
Yoav
United States1874 Posts
On May 27 2015 06:12 xDaunt wrote: Show nested quote + On May 27 2015 06:00 Yoav wrote: On May 27 2015 04:39 xDaunt wrote: On May 27 2015 04:27 Tenks wrote: All the numbers are pretty meaningless. If someone is using them as either an attack or defense that player is probably the actual problem with the team. The only ones that really matter are takedowns and deaths. If you're running a high T/D ratio, you're almost certainly playing well. I mean, I think you're not wrong, but there are absolutely characters who excel particularly at this... like, say, Zeratul. This characteristic is part of why he can carry games so well, but it does mean his T/D is generally extra high. Having a high T/D ratio is more of a function of not dying than being involved in a lot of takedowns. Again, my general thought on death is that every death is preventable to one degree or another. Even if I am playing someone who is not Zeratul, I pride myself on generally having the lowest number of deaths on the team. I dig. By the way, loved your HL guide. | ||
Thezzy
Netherlands2117 Posts
On May 27 2015 06:28 [Phantom] wrote: Show nested quote + On May 27 2015 06:12 xDaunt wrote: On May 27 2015 06:00 Yoav wrote: On May 27 2015 04:39 xDaunt wrote: On May 27 2015 04:27 Tenks wrote: All the numbers are pretty meaningless. If someone is using them as either an attack or defense that player is probably the actual problem with the team. The only ones that really matter are takedowns and deaths. If you're running a high T/D ratio, you're almost certainly playing well. I mean, I think you're not wrong, but there are absolutely characters who excel particularly at this... like, say, Zeratul. This characteristic is part of why he can carry games so well, but it does mean his T/D is generally extra high. Having a high T/D ratio is more of a function of not dying than being involved in a lot of takedowns. Again, my general thought on death is that every death is preventable to one degree or another. Even if I am playing someone who is not Zeratul, I pride myself on generally having the lowest number of deaths on the team. What if you run away from teamfights leaving your friends to die? Then you'll also have the lowest death count. You shouldn't be getting any kills or hero damage if that is the case. If the whole was around 25-30 kills and you're at 10-15, you weren't there half the time. Note that seeing a bad situation for what it is and not dying needlessly when your team is already half gone isn't a bad thing. I'll always try and help the team as much as possible, but sometimes retreat really is the only option. And that can sometimes mean falling back before the fight is completely over. | ||
Wuster
1974 Posts
On May 27 2015 03:28 Wuster wrote: Exactly, that guy was gloating over nothing. Didn't help that the map was Sky Temple and he started the game by dying to creeps (cuz he was going to push the hell out of bot lane...) This probably belongs more int he QQ thread, so I'll stop venting. So back on topic, now that we have easy to mess up heroes on rotation this week any of you guys going to mess around with random builds? I'm planning to try an AA / Lifesteal Illidan build, will probably fail horribly but could scale well on the right map. Well I did it, was playing on Garden of Terror and went Seasoned Marksmen + Thirsting Blade instead of the normal Shadow Shield + Immolation. Since I was going full yolo I took Hunt at 10 too instead of Meta too. Briefly considered Thrill of Battle to pop more Evasions over First Aid, but I just couldn't bring myself to do it. Was very weak early on, no Immo meant I couldn't clear waves for stacks that well either, but by the time I picked up Giant Killer at 13 I had 30 bonus damage and felt like a powerhouse. Ended the game taking Nexus Blades and 40+ bonus damage. I could literally solo garden terrors and finish with 100% hp. I was healing 113hp / hit on core (so much more on heroes, especially after a Sweeping Strike). Wasn't the total disaster I feared, seems like it might have potential, if I do it again, will be going Meta over Hunt though. | ||
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Valiver
Caldeum1977 Posts
Li Li E.T.C. Falstad Diablo Tychus Azmodan (12) Tassadar (15) | ||
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Valiver
Caldeum1977 Posts
Raynor Muradin Rehgar Tyrael Jaina Uther (Available after you reach player level 12) Sylvanas (Available after you reach player level 15) | ||
Wuster
1974 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44321 Posts
On June 10 2015 07:11 Wuster wrote: I really like Sylvanas and Jaina... but I feel really held back in Hero League without any support to fall back on... should I spend this week learning how to play Uther / Rehgar finally? It's never a bad time to learn a support, just in case you need to fill the spot... but learn Brightwing! She's so fun to play with and arguably the best support right now ![]() | ||
wongfeihung
United States763 Posts
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Crownlol
United States3726 Posts
On June 15 2015 09:47 wongfeihung wrote: Played Sylvanas for the first time yesterday and I gotta say she is so incredibly broken as hell. FTFY ![]() Sylvanas is the reason HL needs bans. If a team drafts Sylv and Anub, it's pretty much instant win. | ||
DarkPlasmaBall
United States44321 Posts
On June 15 2015 21:57 Crownlol wrote: Show nested quote + On June 15 2015 09:47 wongfeihung wrote: Played Sylvanas for the first time yesterday and I gotta say she is so incredibly broken as hell. FTFY ![]() Sylvanas is the reason HL needs bans. If a team drafts Sylv and Anub, it's pretty much instant win. I agree with the idea of each team banning 1 hero, but who would be in charge of picking that ban? Maybe the last player on each team or some voting thing? Also, why is Anub + Sylv auto-win? Do they have some sort of godly combo? Sure he got buffed and he's very good, but Anub isn't even the best warrior, let alone in the top three of all heroes... | ||
FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
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Tenks
United States3104 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44321 Posts
On June 15 2015 22:12 FeyFey wrote: anub can push really well, and is a tank. Sylvanas can push really well and is an assassin disguised as a specialist. So they bring pushing power to the team while fullfilling other roles. So you could say they are just to good at to much. There are still heroes that counter it though. So no autowin, but can lead to really tough situations if you don't play save. Ah gotcha. I don't have much experience with Anub but I do like pushing lanes... and I have a "3 games with Warrior" daily quest to fill ![]() | ||
Wuster
1974 Posts
On June 15 2015 22:56 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Show nested quote + On June 15 2015 22:12 FeyFey wrote: anub can push really well, and is a tank. Sylvanas can push really well and is an assassin disguised as a specialist. So they bring pushing power to the team while fullfilling other roles. So you could say they are just to good at to much. There are still heroes that counter it though. So no autowin, but can lead to really tough situations if you don't play save. Ah gotcha. I don't have much experience with Anub but I do like pushing lanes... and I have a "3 games with Warrior" daily quest to fill ![]() Anub is a sneaky good pusher, on Haunted Mines with a little help staying near their gate, his beetles can drain the ammo before mines opens, as you can imagine that makes the first golem much stronger. | ||
TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
On June 10 2015 09:31 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Show nested quote + On June 10 2015 07:11 Wuster wrote: I really like Sylvanas and Jaina... but I feel really held back in Hero League without any support to fall back on... should I spend this week learning how to play Uther / Rehgar finally? It's never a bad time to learn a support, just in case you need to fill the spot... but learn Brightwing! She's so fun to play with and arguably the best support right now ![]() BW is really fun to play and at the moment maybe my favorite hero. | ||
Tenks
United States3104 Posts
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Wuster
1974 Posts
On June 16 2015 02:51 Tenks wrote: The word on the street from some hip cats is that BW may lose Gust of Healing next patch I don't understand why, she hardly seems OP unless you *only* look at the stat screen. Wouldn't it be better to fix her double self-healing bug first then see if her new squishier-ness balances whatever concerns they have? | ||
Tenks
United States3104 Posts
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KobraKay
Portugal4231 Posts
Cool for such a "new" hero to be on the rotation so fast. Yet another week without aba thou ![]() | ||
Wuster
1974 Posts
On June 16 2015 03:34 Tenks wrote: I think the issue is they want BW to be tops in the consistant team healing over time category but Gust kind of goes against that design. Right now you Z in and Gust and the fight is generally won or lost at that moment. It is a very strong ability. It really fills in her glaring weakness of lacking burst heal. If this is really their reasoning, then I would hope they talk to the WoW guys first to see how well sub-specializing roles worked for them (ie back in the day when Pallies and Disc Priests were only tank-healers, and if you only had Resto Druids you couldn't keep a tank alive). | ||
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Valiver
Caldeum1977 Posts
Malfurion Valla Chen Brightwing Kerrigan Sgt. Hammer (Available after you reach player level 12) Kael'thas (Available after you reach player level 15) | ||
KobraKay
Portugal4231 Posts
On June 16 2015 06:40 Wuster wrote: Nice, I can't wait to test KT out. Well I saw it just before I closed my pc, on the desktop app but so far no update on the blizz forums o.O Edit: There it is, glad I saw it right. So valla, kerrigan and some KT this week for me :D oh damn I have to work late this week T_T | ||
kingjames01
Canada1603 Posts
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Ramiz1989
12124 Posts
On June 16 2015 06:03 KobraKay wrote: ROFL am I seeing this right? Is KT free this week? (starting on the 16th) Cool for such a "new" hero to be on the rotation so fast. Yet another week without aba thou ![]() I guess you mean Abathur? Yeah I haven't played him yet. These "different" specialists like Abathur, Murky and Vikings are quite rare. | ||
DarkPlasmaBall
United States44321 Posts
On June 16 2015 06:03 KobraKay wrote: ROFL am I seeing this right? Is KT free this week? (starting on the 16th) Cool for such a "new" hero to be on the rotation so fast. Yet another week without aba thou ![]() Abathur is really fun, as is KT ![]() | ||
Roe
Canada6002 Posts
On June 16 2015 09:18 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Show nested quote + On June 16 2015 06:03 KobraKay wrote: ROFL am I seeing this right? Is KT free this week? (starting on the 16th) Cool for such a "new" hero to be on the rotation so fast. Yet another week without aba thou ![]() Abathur is really fun, as is KT ![]() I got Ab to level 10 a few days after buying him. Unfortunate I can't often make him work in ranked. | ||
DarkPlasmaBall
United States44321 Posts
On June 16 2015 19:25 Roe wrote: Show nested quote + On June 16 2015 09:18 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: On June 16 2015 06:03 KobraKay wrote: ROFL am I seeing this right? Is KT free this week? (starting on the 16th) Cool for such a "new" hero to be on the rotation so fast. Yet another week without aba thou ![]() Abathur is really fun, as is KT ![]() I got Ab to level 10 a few days after buying him. Unfortunate I can't often make him work in ranked. Yeah I find him particularly amusing to play as/ with in QM if you get a decent team, since some opponents still don't even recognize just how much he can buff a hero. They dive in and get wrecked lol. | ||
Crownlol
United States3726 Posts
On June 16 2015 21:52 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Show nested quote + On June 16 2015 19:25 Roe wrote: On June 16 2015 09:18 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: On June 16 2015 06:03 KobraKay wrote: ROFL am I seeing this right? Is KT free this week? (starting on the 16th) Cool for such a "new" hero to be on the rotation so fast. Yet another week without aba thou ![]() Abathur is really fun, as is KT ![]() I got Ab to level 10 a few days after buying him. Unfortunate I can't often make him work in ranked. Yeah I find him particularly amusing to play as/ with in QM if you get a decent team, since some opponents still don't even recognize just how much he can buff a hero. They dive in and get wrecked lol. My team runs a Thrillidan setup that looks like this: Illidan Abathur Rehgar ETC Jaina/Malf/Thrall The premise of the comp is to turn Illidan into a raidboss and to completely steamroll every single teamfight with Lightning Shield + Hat + ETC buff. The massive buffs to his attack speed and basic attack power synergize perfectly with his auto attack build + demon form ult. When we engage in a teamfight, it's simply "buff Illidan, win game" while he twoshots each member of the opposing team. It's freaking *amazing* to watch whole teams get melted by one MegaIllidan during MoshPit + Ring of Frost. | ||
DarkPlasmaBall
United States44321 Posts
On June 16 2015 22:38 Crownlol wrote: Show nested quote + On June 16 2015 21:52 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: On June 16 2015 19:25 Roe wrote: On June 16 2015 09:18 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: On June 16 2015 06:03 KobraKay wrote: ROFL am I seeing this right? Is KT free this week? (starting on the 16th) Cool for such a "new" hero to be on the rotation so fast. Yet another week without aba thou ![]() Abathur is really fun, as is KT ![]() I got Ab to level 10 a few days after buying him. Unfortunate I can't often make him work in ranked. Yeah I find him particularly amusing to play as/ with in QM if you get a decent team, since some opponents still don't even recognize just how much he can buff a hero. They dive in and get wrecked lol. My team runs a Thrillidan setup that looks like this: Illidan Abathur Rehgar ETC Jaina/Malf/Thrall The premise of the comp is to turn Illidan into a raidboss and to completely steamroll every single teamfight with Lightning Shield + Hat + ETC buff. The massive buffs to his attack speed and basic attack power synergize perfectly with his auto attack build + demon form ult. When we engage in a teamfight, it's simply "buff Illidan, win game" while he twoshots each member of the opposing team. It's freaking *amazing* to watch whole teams get melted by one MegaIllidan during MoshPit + Ring of Frost. Hahahaha that's awesome! One of the perks of having a team ^^ | ||
Crownlol
United States3726 Posts
On June 17 2015 00:41 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Show nested quote + On June 16 2015 22:38 Crownlol wrote: On June 16 2015 21:52 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: On June 16 2015 19:25 Roe wrote: On June 16 2015 09:18 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: On June 16 2015 06:03 KobraKay wrote: ROFL am I seeing this right? Is KT free this week? (starting on the 16th) Cool for such a "new" hero to be on the rotation so fast. Yet another week without aba thou ![]() Abathur is really fun, as is KT ![]() I got Ab to level 10 a few days after buying him. Unfortunate I can't often make him work in ranked. Yeah I find him particularly amusing to play as/ with in QM if you get a decent team, since some opponents still don't even recognize just how much he can buff a hero. They dive in and get wrecked lol. My team runs a Thrillidan setup that looks like this: Illidan Abathur Rehgar ETC Jaina/Malf/Thrall The premise of the comp is to turn Illidan into a raidboss and to completely steamroll every single teamfight with Lightning Shield + Hat + ETC buff. The massive buffs to his attack speed and basic attack power synergize perfectly with his auto attack build + demon form ult. When we engage in a teamfight, it's simply "buff Illidan, win game" while he twoshots each member of the opposing team. It's freaking *amazing* to watch whole teams get melted by one MegaIllidan during MoshPit + Ring of Frost. Hahahaha that's awesome! One of the perks of having a team ^^ Yeah it's great! We even have had success with it in Hero League. After 10, the opposing team has a very hard time contending objectives on any map that forces teamfighting. The comp is weak to Sylvanas/Azmodan split pushing though - good teams will avoid teamfights if they can. | ||
Wuster
1974 Posts
Man I didn't used to think there was a big difference between HL and QM, but boy did I feel it yesterday. From people throwing the games because someone was mean to them, to multiple rDPS doing less damage than Tyrael (who wasn't even played that well), it was just a disaster on multiple levels. Then when I didn't want to lose I decided to pick an assassin I'm really comfortable with (because I feel dps is easier to carry with than warrior) and I queue straight into Zeratul / Nova / Illidan (who takes Hunt) as Valla. Makes me have second thoughts about trying out KT this week lol. Edit: I should note that I only won the two games I chain d/c-ed / had connection problems in too, that's a real confidence boost in my abilities. | ||
FreeZEternal
Korea (South)3396 Posts
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Crownlol
United States3726 Posts
On June 17 2015 02:33 Wuster wrote: Was playing Hero League most of last week, but I really do enjoy Jaina / Sylv and dont' own them so I went back to QM to play them before they got rotated out. Man I didn't used to think there was a big difference between HL and QM, but boy did I feel it yesterday. From people throwing the games because someone was mean to them, to multiple rDPS doing less damage than Tyrael (who wasn't even played that well), it was just a disaster on multiple levels. Then when I didn't want to lose I decided to pick an assassin I'm really comfortable with (because I feel dps is easier to carry with than warrior) and I queue straight into Zeratul / Nova / Illidan (who takes Hunt) as Valla. Makes me have second thoughts about trying out KT this week lol. Edit: I should note that I only won the two games I chain d/c-ed / had connection problems in too, that's a real confidence boost in my abilities. QM is like the third circle of hell once you get to higher levels and start playing HL if you have any competitive gaming experience. QM is honestly entirely unplayable, and I only queue if I'm making a troll team with my teammates (like that Thrillidan build or Paintrain or something) or experimenting with a new hero. | ||
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[Phantom]
Mexico2170 Posts
On June 17 2015 02:33 Wuster wrote: Was playing Hero League most of last week, but I really do enjoy Jaina / Sylv and dont' own them so I went back to QM to play them before they got rotated out. Man I didn't used to think there was a big difference between HL and QM, but boy did I feel it yesterday. From people throwing the games because someone was mean to them, to multiple rDPS doing less damage than Tyrael (who wasn't even played that well), it was just a disaster on multiple levels. Then when I didn't want to lose I decided to pick an assassin I'm really comfortable with (because I feel dps is easier to carry with than warrior) and I queue straight into Zeratul / Nova / Illidan (who takes Hunt) as Valla. Makes me have second thoughts about trying out KT this week lol. Edit: I should note that I only won the two games I chain d/c-ed / had connection problems in too, that's a real confidence boost in my abilities. That seems like my average Hero League game honestly. | ||
CrazyHunter
United States83 Posts
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Leolio X
France26 Posts
On June 17 2015 03:31 Crownlol wrote: Show nested quote + On June 17 2015 02:33 Wuster wrote: Was playing Hero League most of last week, but I really do enjoy Jaina / Sylv and dont' own them so I went back to QM to play them before they got rotated out. Man I didn't used to think there was a big difference between HL and QM, but boy did I feel it yesterday. From people throwing the games because someone was mean to them, to multiple rDPS doing less damage than Tyrael (who wasn't even played that well), it was just a disaster on multiple levels. Then when I didn't want to lose I decided to pick an assassin I'm really comfortable with (because I feel dps is easier to carry with than warrior) and I queue straight into Zeratul / Nova / Illidan (who takes Hunt) as Valla. Makes me have second thoughts about trying out KT this week lol. Edit: I should note that I only won the two games I chain d/c-ed / had connection problems in too, that's a real confidence boost in my abilities. QM is like the third circle of hell once you get to higher levels and start playing HL if you have any competitive gaming experience. QM is honestly entirely unplayable, and I only queue if I'm making a troll team with my teammates (like that Thrillidan build or Paintrain or something) or experimenting with a new hero. It's true people play poorly but unless you play warrior, if you play well you really can turn the tide up. I usually make 35 - 1 games in QM with Nova and even with feeders and disrespectful people I don't lose. A good healer can make wonders, and of course a specialist will make tons of damage no matter what. edit: Also, free Kael, that's great. :-D | ||
Jenia6109
Russian Federation1612 Posts
KT best KT | ||
Wuster
1974 Posts
On June 17 2015 21:35 Leolio X wrote: Show nested quote + On June 17 2015 03:31 Crownlol wrote: On June 17 2015 02:33 Wuster wrote: Was playing Hero League most of last week, but I really do enjoy Jaina / Sylv and dont' own them so I went back to QM to play them before they got rotated out. Man I didn't used to think there was a big difference between HL and QM, but boy did I feel it yesterday. From people throwing the games because someone was mean to them, to multiple rDPS doing less damage than Tyrael (who wasn't even played that well), it was just a disaster on multiple levels. Then when I didn't want to lose I decided to pick an assassin I'm really comfortable with (because I feel dps is easier to carry with than warrior) and I queue straight into Zeratul / Nova / Illidan (who takes Hunt) as Valla. Makes me have second thoughts about trying out KT this week lol. Edit: I should note that I only won the two games I chain d/c-ed / had connection problems in too, that's a real confidence boost in my abilities. QM is like the third circle of hell once you get to higher levels and start playing HL if you have any competitive gaming experience. QM is honestly entirely unplayable, and I only queue if I'm making a troll team with my teammates (like that Thrillidan build or Paintrain or something) or experimenting with a new hero. It's true people play poorly but unless you play warrior, if you play well you really can turn the tide up. I usually make 35 - 1 games in QM with Nova and even with feeders and disrespectful people I don't lose. A good healer can make wonders, and of course a specialist will make tons of damage no matter what. edit: Also, free Kael, that's great. :-D I don't think I ever get QM games where the skill disparity is that massive unless queueing with friends who are new to the game. I did have a QM game where I was I think I was a 24-5 Nova and we lost horribly. Before that I never felt that Nova could carry a team no matter how much she ganked, and that game felt like confirmation to me. But 35-1 is like a score you get playing against bots lol, so in that case I can believe the carry potential. It's funny, when I started playing Heroes the easiest way to carry was playing a tank well (RIP pre-nerf Arthas and Stiches). Now I would agree that warriors have a really hard time carrying because they just can't output the damage anymore after all the rebalancing. I still love playing them though. Back to the original topic, KT free week hasn't improved my experience. Just more angry/incompetent players. First game was with a Valla with 0-5 ratio bemoaning that the game was already lost and how sometimes the MM just gives you a lose (Valla with less damage than half the hero damage of the other assassins btw). I was playing at my normal time (after dinner servertime) not in the middle of the night like on Monday, so that blew my original theory that my issues were just from playing too late with a smaller / younger player pool (seriously who else is playing at 3 am pacific?). | ||
Hellonslaught
Brazil0 Posts
On June 18 2015 02:41 Wuster wrote: Just more angry/incompetent players. First game was with a Valla with 0-5 ratio bemoaning that the game was already lost and how sometimes the MM just gives you a lose (Valla with less damage than half the hero damage of the other assassins btw). I main Vala and i can confidently say that if the team has no idea how to teamwork, 0-5 as Vala with less DPS then support is a normal outcome no matter how good the Vala player is. Not stating your Vala was competent, but your argument is irrational and very often used by bad players themselves. You can blame as much as you want or you can make the difference and do everything in your power to prevent her from being killed, but bitching and blaming is easier am i right? | ||
Wuster
1974 Posts
If you were in the game then you would have known I was busy teaching someone who asked for help how to play Chen. When my first advice was drink liberally, he would literally stand there and chain drink while a fight was going on, so I had to explain to him that there was more to his rotation and people were just gong to ignore him if he just stood there. But he asked and I tried to help, no hard feelings at all. The Valla however asked for no help and didn't do anything other than over extend and die to Zeratul 3 times before lvl 4. She wasn't in my lane (nor was she solo-lane to give you an example of how badly she was overextending) or I would have been pinging whenever I saw that blur to help her avoid the ganks. It was a miracle that she only had 5 deaths when they hit lvl 11 (when she made that comment). Anyways, this is getting offtopic from talking about the free heroes rotation. | ||
FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
On June 17 2015 21:35 Leolio X wrote: Show nested quote + On June 17 2015 03:31 Crownlol wrote: On June 17 2015 02:33 Wuster wrote: Was playing Hero League most of last week, but I really do enjoy Jaina / Sylv and dont' own them so I went back to QM to play them before they got rotated out. Man I didn't used to think there was a big difference between HL and QM, but boy did I feel it yesterday. From people throwing the games because someone was mean to them, to multiple rDPS doing less damage than Tyrael (who wasn't even played that well), it was just a disaster on multiple levels. Then when I didn't want to lose I decided to pick an assassin I'm really comfortable with (because I feel dps is easier to carry with than warrior) and I queue straight into Zeratul / Nova / Illidan (who takes Hunt) as Valla. Makes me have second thoughts about trying out KT this week lol. Edit: I should note that I only won the two games I chain d/c-ed / had connection problems in too, that's a real confidence boost in my abilities. QM is like the third circle of hell once you get to higher levels and start playing HL if you have any competitive gaming experience. QM is honestly entirely unplayable, and I only queue if I'm making a troll team with my teammates (like that Thrillidan build or Paintrain or something) or experimenting with a new hero. It's true people play poorly but unless you play warrior, if you play well you really can turn the tide up. I usually make 35 - 1 games in QM with Nova and even with feeders and disrespectful people I don't lose. A good healer can make wonders, and of course a specialist will make tons of damage no matter what. edit: Also, free Kael, that's great. :-D Don't think its really class related. The important part is that you can make up for the short comings of your team. Thats why I dislike heroes that can't merc in QM. And thats why I love Muradin who can merc, tank, self heal, disrupt channels and deal decent damage. So basically any hero that works on his own can carry in QM. | ||
METATERREN
71 Posts
Chen Was awful the first time I played him. I couldn't make heads nor tails of how useless he was because there's no reason to attack him, as he is doing no damage if he's spec'd for flying kick. Turned out I really enjoyed playing him when I built for tank and realized wandering barrel is good fun, and spec'd him for flame breath also with wandering barrel. Great fun to be had on this hero (especialyl due to short cooldowns and flying kick moving you around the field) but lacking effective damage. Valla Didn't immediately pwn as I anticipated. Her damage is good. She is squishy. I don't think her shadow beast ult is very good without specific coordination from a CC'r. Kael Thas Pretty good damage. It took some getting used to his trait. My favorite part is pyroblasting from behind walls. Kerrigan Was terrible trying to build for her basic attack & self shield buffing. She started to make sense when I picked up burst, burst, burst damage talents and perk like the 15% life zap. I also used envenom. Brightwing Pretty incredible how much healing she puts out, and the CC from polymorph is nice. Teleporting about the map is good and the team was rarely without my heals pushing them to full hp. Sgt Hammer Life was made hard for Sgt Hammer until I picked up Ambush to get a nice little stealth bonus and 100% bonus dmg upon sieging up. Malfurion A solid support and rooting hero lacking burst heals. Tranquility is heroic is much easier to use and get a reliable result from than Twilight Dream's damage & silence. Its too bad Twilight Dream's aoe is centered on you and forces you into danger. | ||
karazax
United States3737 Posts
Li Li ETC Anub'arak Thrall Zagara Nazeebo (12) Illidan (15) | ||
KobraKay
Portugal4231 Posts
On June 23 2015 01:11 karazax wrote: Rumor is that next week's rotation will be: Li Li ETC Anub'arak Thrall Zagara Nazeebo (12) Illidan (15) The desktop app confirms. | ||
Yoav
United States1874 Posts
Actually, the general lack of normal ranged Assassins is disturbing. Illidan and Thrall are gonna be fun/funny tho. | ||
eagle
United States693 Posts
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Leolio X
France26 Posts
On June 18 2015 02:41 Wuster wrote: Show nested quote + On June 17 2015 21:35 Leolio X wrote: On June 17 2015 03:31 Crownlol wrote: On June 17 2015 02:33 Wuster wrote: Was playing Hero League most of last week, but I really do enjoy Jaina / Sylv and dont' own them so I went back to QM to play them before they got rotated out. Man I didn't used to think there was a big difference between HL and QM, but boy did I feel it yesterday. From people throwing the games because someone was mean to them, to multiple rDPS doing less damage than Tyrael (who wasn't even played that well), it was just a disaster on multiple levels. Then when I didn't want to lose I decided to pick an assassin I'm really comfortable with (because I feel dps is easier to carry with than warrior) and I queue straight into Zeratul / Nova / Illidan (who takes Hunt) as Valla. Makes me have second thoughts about trying out KT this week lol. Edit: I should note that I only won the two games I chain d/c-ed / had connection problems in too, that's a real confidence boost in my abilities. QM is like the third circle of hell once you get to higher levels and start playing HL if you have any competitive gaming experience. QM is honestly entirely unplayable, and I only queue if I'm making a troll team with my teammates (like that Thrillidan build or Paintrain or something) or experimenting with a new hero. It's true people play poorly but unless you play warrior, if you play well you really can turn the tide up. I usually make 35 - 1 games in QM with Nova and even with feeders and disrespectful people I don't lose. A good healer can make wonders, and of course a specialist will make tons of damage no matter what. edit: Also, free Kael, that's great. :-D I don't think I ever get QM games where the skill disparity is that massive unless queueing with friends who are new to the game. I did have a QM game where I was I think I was a 24-5 Nova and we lost horribly. Before that I never felt that Nova could carry a team no matter how much she ganked, and that game felt like confirmation to me. But 35-1 is like a score you get playing against bots lol, so in that case I can believe the carry potential. To me, 24-5 Nova in Quickmatch is bad. You have to be at least + 30 or +35, even on short games. I'm only rank 25 but I make a huge difference when solo-queueing QM. If I lose it's because I'm using Heroes I don't play well (yup, Illidan for example), or my allies really really played bad. Or of course 1 guy on the opposite team is better than me, and it's surprising it doesn't happen often since I'm not very good. | ||
Wuster
1974 Posts
I've had plenty of games where we stomp the other side and my kill/death ratio is a very modest 11-2 (as Muradin) or even an afk-looking 9-0 (Tassadar). More competitive games I don't often break 30 total takedowns either. Maybe this speaks more to why Nova and I don't really click, but even when I've carried friends on other DPS, the final tally was more like 27-1 or something and felt like utter domination, not the minimum prerequisite to winning. * Since takedowns/deaths are such a small part of the overall picture, I'll add some context to that game, 24 takedowns was more than the next two on my team combined. And I think everyone else was in the low teens for deaths. My team was terrible is what I'm getting at, and contributing more kills than the rest of the team didn't seem to move the needle is why I concluded that Nova just can't do it. | ||
Leolio X
France26 Posts
On June 24 2015 03:02 Wuster wrote: Ya 5 deaths is a lot. I don't consider 24 takedowns bad in a losing effort though, I can't comprehend regularly going +30 just to win*... I've had plenty of games where we stomp the other side and my kill/death ratio is a very modest 11-2 (as Muradin) or even an afk-looking 9-0 (Tassadar). More competitive games I don't often break 30 total takedowns either. Maybe this speaks more to why Nova and I don't really click, but even when I've carried friends on other DPS, the final tally was more like 27-1 or something and felt like utter domination, not the minimum prerequisite to winning. * Since takedowns/deaths are such a small part of the overall picture, I'll add some context to that game, 24 takedowns was more than the next two on my team combined. And I think everyone else was in the low teens for deaths. My team was terrible is what I'm getting at, and contributing more kills than the rest of the team didn't seem to move the needle is why I concluded that Nova just can't do it. + 19 is actually pretty good when you lose, but I say to make a big difference in QM you have to be at +30. You're Nova, not Zagara, if you want to win the game despite very bad allies you have to make a huge difference. Most people will fall for your holo decoy, most people won't see you when you roam, and most people don't know how powerful your burst is because QM is full of people learning the game or learning a new hero. Won 1 QM yesteray with a small +20 so it's not a rule or a prerequisite, it's just a vague opinion on QM as a Nova main. ;-) Even in Hero League I very rarely kill less than 25. But it's often, as you say, not enough to turn the tables. You're Nova, your impact on the game is map awareness and kills, not much. | ||
Wuster
1974 Posts
Nova is my guilty pleasure when she's on rotation so I'm not that adept at getting constant ganks (I'm beyond awful with Zeratul for example). Next time she rotates in I'll remember to really have that mentality that I gotta hunt for picks rather than being passive like I would be with other assassins (who can do something else while waiting for someone to overextend or for a teammate to rotate down and surprise someone). | ||
karazax
United States3737 Posts
Falstad Raynor Muradin Sonya Tyrande Gazlowe 12 Azmodan 15 | ||
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Valiver
Caldeum1977 Posts
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sacrilegious
Canada863 Posts
On the other hand, looking forward to Sylvanas cuz of her lore and to see how good she is, and I heard good things about Johanna... should be ok overall I hope | ||
MotherFox
United States1529 Posts
On July 07 2015 20:49 sacrilegious wrote: And just as I started this game, and made a qq post about Zeratul (and Nova)... here we go, guess I'm really going to have to read guides to how to deal with this nuisance and hope I don't have a bad one on my team. Not a fan of Stitches either, 2 games had allies just hook enemies from a group of 3-4, get ganged up and die then proceed to blame us -_-, plus I hate Pudge from DOTA 2 On the other hand, looking forward to Sylvanas cuz of her lore and to see how good she is, and I heard good things about Johanna... should be ok overall I hope Stiches logic: Step #1: Hook enemy. Step #2: Team kills enemy. He did #1, so you clearly messed up step #2. ![]() | ||
sacrilegious
Canada863 Posts
On July 08 2015 00:02 MotherFox wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2015 20:49 sacrilegious wrote: And just as I started this game, and made a qq post about Zeratul (and Nova)... here we go, guess I'm really going to have to read guides to how to deal with this nuisance and hope I don't have a bad one on my team. Not a fan of Stitches either, 2 games had allies just hook enemies from a group of 3-4, get ganged up and die then proceed to blame us -_-, plus I hate Pudge from DOTA 2 On the other hand, looking forward to Sylvanas cuz of her lore and to see how good she is, and I heard good things about Johanna... should be ok overall I hope Stiches logic: Step #1: Hook enemy. Step #2: Team kills enemy. He did #1, so you clearly messed up step #2. ![]() Team does not encompass just me and him vs 3 and more... let alone trying that 30 seconds into the game... but ill assume the sarcasm with the ![]() | ||
MotherFox
United States1529 Posts
On July 08 2015 02:35 sacrilegious wrote: Show nested quote + On July 08 2015 00:02 MotherFox wrote: On July 07 2015 20:49 sacrilegious wrote: And just as I started this game, and made a qq post about Zeratul (and Nova)... here we go, guess I'm really going to have to read guides to how to deal with this nuisance and hope I don't have a bad one on my team. Not a fan of Stitches either, 2 games had allies just hook enemies from a group of 3-4, get ganged up and die then proceed to blame us -_-, plus I hate Pudge from DOTA 2 On the other hand, looking forward to Sylvanas cuz of her lore and to see how good she is, and I heard good things about Johanna... should be ok overall I hope Stiches logic: Step #1: Hook enemy. Step #2: Team kills enemy. He did #1, so you clearly messed up step #2. ![]() Team does not encompass just me and him vs 3 and more... let alone trying that 30 seconds into the game... but ill assume the sarcasm with the ![]() Yeah, definitely sarcastic. | ||
Garbels
Austria653 Posts
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Odoakar
Croatia1837 Posts
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Valiver
Caldeum1977 Posts
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Ramiz1989
12124 Posts
On July 14 2015 03:32 Valiver wrote: Lol Kael'thas with Hammer again? Last month had them paired as well. Poor Hammer players... Yeah and I think Rehgar was in the same group, I don't really know what's happening. | ||
Larkin
United Kingdom7161 Posts
But time for there to be Kael'Thas in every game. Think I might give him a spin. Seeing people somehow manage to struggle with Kael'Thas is painful to watch. Or maybe Zeratul to camp those poor newbie Kaels... Either way, it's a good week to be DPS, with two very weak tanks, husks of their former selves ![]() | ||
Zambrah
United States7297 Posts
On July 14 2015 11:37 Larkin wrote: Well, at least there are 2 decent healers so most QMs should have a healer, rather than Tass/Tyrande getting matched up against Malfurion all the time. But time for there to be Kael'Thas in every game. Think I might give him a spin. Seeing people somehow manage to struggle with Kael'Thas is painful to watch. Or maybe Zeratul to camp those poor newbie Kaels... Either way, it's a good week to be DPS, with two very weak tanks, husks of their former selves ![]() Aw, ETC is weak now? ;_; Oh well, all I care about is landing sick Mosh Pits anyways. | ||
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Valiver
Caldeum1977 Posts
On July 14 2015 11:51 Zambrah wrote: Show nested quote + On July 14 2015 11:37 Larkin wrote: Well, at least there are 2 decent healers so most QMs should have a healer, rather than Tass/Tyrande getting matched up against Malfurion all the time. But time for there to be Kael'Thas in every game. Think I might give him a spin. Seeing people somehow manage to struggle with Kael'Thas is painful to watch. Or maybe Zeratul to camp those poor newbie Kaels... Either way, it's a good week to be DPS, with two very weak tanks, husks of their former selves ![]() Aw, ETC is weak now? ;_; Oh well, all I care about is landing sick Mosh Pits anyways. ETC isn't too bad. It's more like most other tanks are stronger so he's not used very much. | ||
Larkin
United Kingdom7161 Posts
On July 14 2015 11:56 Valiver wrote: Show nested quote + On July 14 2015 11:51 Zambrah wrote: On July 14 2015 11:37 Larkin wrote: Well, at least there are 2 decent healers so most QMs should have a healer, rather than Tass/Tyrande getting matched up against Malfurion all the time. But time for there to be Kael'Thas in every game. Think I might give him a spin. Seeing people somehow manage to struggle with Kael'Thas is painful to watch. Or maybe Zeratul to camp those poor newbie Kaels... Either way, it's a good week to be DPS, with two very weak tanks, husks of their former selves ![]() Aw, ETC is weak now? ;_; Oh well, all I care about is landing sick Mosh Pits anyways. ETC isn't too bad. It's more like most other tanks are stronger so he's not used very much. I'd rank tanks: Muradin Tyrael Johanna Anub'arak ETC Stitches Arthas Sonya Diablo Chen But yeah you rarely see others out of the top 4 there. | ||
Zambrah
United States7297 Posts
On July 14 2015 13:17 Larkin wrote: Show nested quote + On July 14 2015 11:56 Valiver wrote: On July 14 2015 11:51 Zambrah wrote: On July 14 2015 11:37 Larkin wrote: Well, at least there are 2 decent healers so most QMs should have a healer, rather than Tass/Tyrande getting matched up against Malfurion all the time. But time for there to be Kael'Thas in every game. Think I might give him a spin. Seeing people somehow manage to struggle with Kael'Thas is painful to watch. Or maybe Zeratul to camp those poor newbie Kaels... Either way, it's a good week to be DPS, with two very weak tanks, husks of their former selves ![]() Aw, ETC is weak now? ;_; Oh well, all I care about is landing sick Mosh Pits anyways. ETC isn't too bad. It's more like most other tanks are stronger so he's not used very much. I'd rank tanks: Muradin Tyrael Johanna Anub'arak ETC Stitches Arthas Sonya Diablo Chen But yeah you rarely see others out of the top 4 there. Lord, Diablo hath fallen. I'm tempted to buy another Tank, I just bought Nazeebo and Zagara since I had no specialists but atm ETC is my only tank... probably Tyrael or Anub'arak. | ||
Paradice
New Zealand431 Posts
On July 14 2015 13:17 Larkin wrote: Show nested quote + On July 14 2015 11:56 Valiver wrote: On July 14 2015 11:51 Zambrah wrote: On July 14 2015 11:37 Larkin wrote: Well, at least there are 2 decent healers so most QMs should have a healer, rather than Tass/Tyrande getting matched up against Malfurion all the time. But time for there to be Kael'Thas in every game. Think I might give him a spin. Seeing people somehow manage to struggle with Kael'Thas is painful to watch. Or maybe Zeratul to camp those poor newbie Kaels... Either way, it's a good week to be DPS, with two very weak tanks, husks of their former selves ![]() Aw, ETC is weak now? ;_; Oh well, all I care about is landing sick Mosh Pits anyways. ETC isn't too bad. It's more like most other tanks are stronger so he's not used very much. I'd rank tanks: Muradin Tyrael Johanna Anub'arak ETC Stitches Arthas Sonya Diablo Chen But yeah you rarely see others out of the top 4 there. Hmm, I think Anub'arak has fallen away in just the past week or two. Couldn't even say why, but just not seeing him as much any more. Meanwhile, Arthas is back baby! He's been popping up regularly in recent tournament games. I also think Johanna is still slightly preferred over Muradin most of the time. | ||
Wuster
1974 Posts
Also having played some Johanna this week, she's just all around great. Maybe not as good at ripping up a back line as Muradin but she's so damn hard to kill it's just great. | ||
Larkin
United Kingdom7161 Posts
On July 14 2015 14:34 Paradice wrote: Show nested quote + On July 14 2015 13:17 Larkin wrote: On July 14 2015 11:56 Valiver wrote: On July 14 2015 11:51 Zambrah wrote: On July 14 2015 11:37 Larkin wrote: Well, at least there are 2 decent healers so most QMs should have a healer, rather than Tass/Tyrande getting matched up against Malfurion all the time. But time for there to be Kael'Thas in every game. Think I might give him a spin. Seeing people somehow manage to struggle with Kael'Thas is painful to watch. Or maybe Zeratul to camp those poor newbie Kaels... Either way, it's a good week to be DPS, with two very weak tanks, husks of their former selves ![]() Aw, ETC is weak now? ;_; Oh well, all I care about is landing sick Mosh Pits anyways. ETC isn't too bad. It's more like most other tanks are stronger so he's not used very much. I'd rank tanks: Muradin Tyrael Johanna Anub'arak ETC Stitches Arthas Sonya Diablo Chen But yeah you rarely see others out of the top 4 there. Hmm, I think Anub'arak has fallen away in just the past week or two. Couldn't even say why, but just not seeing him as much any more. Meanwhile, Arthas is back baby! He's been popping up regularly in recent tournament games. I also think Johanna is still slightly preferred over Muradin most of the time. It varies a lot based on playstyle. Anub can't charge in alone anymore, but still works well when co-ordinated. Also, Johanna with Abathur = godmode. | ||
FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
And Johanna is just the best for protecting heroes without an escape. Which usually is something powerful spellcasters lack of. And here comes Muradin into play, his Thunderclap is so good against autoattack heroes, that you basically need him or have him banned if you have something that autoattacks. Tyrael is currently also pretty well liked, because of both of his ults and that he can provide good protection for the non escape assassins. So i might be Muradin biased, but because Muradin is so OP, people have to use things where Muradin isn't godlike, which makes other tanks popular. Might also be that spellcasters are powerful as well with a tank that provides vision without being at risk of dieing. I also think that the double ban system changed alot. I expected it to be alot more limiting then it turned out to be though. | ||
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Valiver
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Roe
Canada6002 Posts
On July 14 2015 13:48 Zambrah wrote: Show nested quote + On July 14 2015 13:17 Larkin wrote: On July 14 2015 11:56 Valiver wrote: On July 14 2015 11:51 Zambrah wrote: On July 14 2015 11:37 Larkin wrote: Well, at least there are 2 decent healers so most QMs should have a healer, rather than Tass/Tyrande getting matched up against Malfurion all the time. But time for there to be Kael'Thas in every game. Think I might give him a spin. Seeing people somehow manage to struggle with Kael'Thas is painful to watch. Or maybe Zeratul to camp those poor newbie Kaels... Either way, it's a good week to be DPS, with two very weak tanks, husks of their former selves ![]() Aw, ETC is weak now? ;_; Oh well, all I care about is landing sick Mosh Pits anyways. ETC isn't too bad. It's more like most other tanks are stronger so he's not used very much. I'd rank tanks: Muradin Tyrael Johanna Anub'arak ETC Stitches Arthas Sonya Diablo Chen But yeah you rarely see others out of the top 4 there. Lord, Diablo hath fallen. I'm tempted to buy another Tank, I just bought Nazeebo and Zagara since I had no specialists but atm ETC is my only tank... probably Tyrael or Anub'arak. I've been debating recently between Chen and Tyrael. Something about Chen's style attracts me but I'm worried about having such little disruption that tanks usually have (also being immobile for the shield). Tyrael on the other hand is sort of all round decent seeming. I've saved up about 20k gold but want to keep some banked for the Diablo Monk hero. | ||
KobraKay
Portugal4231 Posts
On July 21 2015 01:48 Valiver wrote: July 21 - July 27 Free Weekly Rotation:
Meh week for me this one. The fun heroes in there I already own. If blizz follows the latest pattern, we should be getting free week butcher soon right? And Leoric wasn't supposed to be released this week? Maybe next one? Anyone knows something about his release date yet? | ||
KobraKay
Portugal4231 Posts
On July 21 2015 18:43 KobraKay wrote: Show nested quote + On July 21 2015 01:48 Valiver wrote: July 21 - July 27 Free Weekly Rotation:
Meh week for me this one. The fun heroes in there I already own. If blizz follows the latest pattern, we should be getting free week butcher soon right? And Leoric wasn't supposed to be released this week? Maybe next one? Anyone knows something about his release date yet? Sorry for the double post but I'm watching Grubby's stream and he said Leoric will be released today in the US, tomorrow on EU!!! :D hype!! | ||
Larkin
United Kingdom7161 Posts
On July 21 2015 14:49 Roe wrote: Show nested quote + On July 14 2015 13:48 Zambrah wrote: On July 14 2015 13:17 Larkin wrote: On July 14 2015 11:56 Valiver wrote: On July 14 2015 11:51 Zambrah wrote: On July 14 2015 11:37 Larkin wrote: Well, at least there are 2 decent healers so most QMs should have a healer, rather than Tass/Tyrande getting matched up against Malfurion all the time. But time for there to be Kael'Thas in every game. Think I might give him a spin. Seeing people somehow manage to struggle with Kael'Thas is painful to watch. Or maybe Zeratul to camp those poor newbie Kaels... Either way, it's a good week to be DPS, with two very weak tanks, husks of their former selves ![]() Aw, ETC is weak now? ;_; Oh well, all I care about is landing sick Mosh Pits anyways. ETC isn't too bad. It's more like most other tanks are stronger so he's not used very much. I'd rank tanks: Muradin Tyrael Johanna Anub'arak ETC Stitches Arthas Sonya Diablo Chen But yeah you rarely see others out of the top 4 there. Lord, Diablo hath fallen. I'm tempted to buy another Tank, I just bought Nazeebo and Zagara since I had no specialists but atm ETC is my only tank... probably Tyrael or Anub'arak. I've been debating recently between Chen and Tyrael. Something about Chen's style attracts me but I'm worried about having such little disruption that tanks usually have (also being immobile for the shield). Tyrael on the other hand is sort of all round decent seeming. I've saved up about 20k gold but want to keep some banked for the Diablo Monk hero. Tyrael is a hundred times more viable than Chen imo | ||
karazax
United States3737 Posts
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Roe
Canada6002 Posts
In other news: Leoric is available | ||
Garbels
Austria653 Posts
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karazax
United States3737 Posts
On July 22 2015 08:07 Roe wrote: Ended up picking Tyrael, went 5-0 with him in HL so I'm pretty happy. Only thing I'm not liking is I'm rarely above 10% mana. In other news: Leoric is available Well you will get your chance to try chen too looks like this week. | ||
Larkin
United Kingdom7161 Posts
Glad Illidan and Tyrande have the level caps to stop the newest of the new using them. Bad Tyrande vs a real support = gg, bad illidan = gg. | ||
Garbels
Austria653 Posts
Week of Tuesday, August 4, 2015:
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kingjames01
Canada1603 Posts
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Germany10114 Posts
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Tenks
United States3104 Posts
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Wuster
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MotherFox
United States1529 Posts
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[Phantom]
Mexico2170 Posts
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Wuster
1974 Posts
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Ramiz1989
12124 Posts
On August 04 2015 04:19 [Phantom] wrote: It will be madness with both thrall and butcher this week. I predcit a lot of people calling Butcher OP, and a lot of people dying helplessly all the time. It will be Illidan week all over again haha. As someone who has the most games with Butcher out of all heroes, I predict that most people will feed a lot with him than doing something useful. :D | ||
MotherFox
United States1529 Posts
About four minutes goes by. We're in a pretty intense team fight which I've just successfully peeled us away from. All of a sudden I hear, "FRESH MEAT" and see a butcher charge from behind me into four of their enemy team with only a quarter of his health bar. Of course, he dies almost immediately and three seconds later the butcher player says "...my b" #facepalm | ||
Roe
Canada6002 Posts
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Immersion_
United Kingdom794 Posts
On August 04 2015 23:08 Roe wrote: I'm literally trying Nova for the first time today thanks to her being f2p. Having a blast in QM doing massive damage and sniping some intense kills. I have a bit more sympathy for all those HL nova players now as she is admittedly very fun. | ||
Wuster
1974 Posts
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Wuster
1974 Posts
Turns out newbs absolutely cannot handle Azmo pushing. Also, newbies don't know how to help me farm stacks so I was often very low on globe damage, oh well though, we still won most games (sole lose due to a Thrall who didn't understand objectives and a Nova who was chain-d/c-ing). It's a little validating to know that I've gotten better even if my one game with Valla (first purchase to farm gold/xp with) was near-disasterous (sleepy, overconfident and talent gated are a dangerous mix). | ||
Garbels
Austria653 Posts
Week of Tuesday, August 11, 2015:
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44321 Posts
On August 10 2015 21:02 Garbels wrote: Hold on to your hats: Week of Tuesday, August 11, 2015:
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karazax
United States3737 Posts
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Freezard
Sweden1011 Posts
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Crownlol
United States3726 Posts
On August 10 2015 21:26 Freezard wrote: I've had a lot of fun with Butcher this week... he became one of my favorites! Trying Thrall now but unfortunately he seems like a weaker Butcher and I have a hard time getting close to enemies since everyone plays 4-5 assassins in QP and most ones are ranged >_< I'm picking Block and Spell Shield just to survive! If the opposing team has a heavy AA assassin then Block is the correct Lvl1 choice on Thrall. I really enjoy playing him, but it does feel like Butcher is just better overall (Butcher is kind of OP though). Thrall fits very well into PainTrain triple melee teams, and it's an absolute blast to run that setup. Generally we'll do Thrall, Mura, (Kerrigan/Butcher/Illi/Zera) plus heals and Jaina or KT. Once we even had a triplemelee doublehealer setup just for fun in HL (single digit ranks) and we actually steamrolled pretty hard. The current "KT Jaina Malf Zera autowin" meta gets completely blown out by a TSG style team, I'm loving it. | ||
Larkin
United Kingdom7161 Posts
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Yoav
United States1874 Posts
Some devs just want the world to burn. Tho honestly, I can imagine them basically saying "Ya know, abathur free week is gonna fuck up all our data a lot and murky free week fucks it up a little, lets just stack em and ignore that week of data." So glad I have time this week to Zeratul around killing eggs and evo masters. | ||
Crownlol
United States3726 Posts
On August 10 2015 23:17 Yoav wrote: Lol murky abathur. Some devs just want the world to burn. Tho honestly, I can imagine them basically saying "Ya know, abathur free week is gonna fuck up all our data a lot and murky free week fucks it up a little, lets just stack em and ignore that week of data." So glad I have time this week to Zeratul around killing eggs and evo masters. If I played QM I'd agree with you ![]() Although full disclosure I lost a HL (rank 10ish) game against an Abathur+Murky combo, hatted Murky is no joke. | ||
rdvark5000
Canada13 Posts
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Ramiz1989
12124 Posts
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
If you play Raynor chase murky and make him cry, trying to clear waves. | ||
MotherFox
United States1529 Posts
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Wuster
1974 Posts
On August 10 2015 23:09 Larkin wrote: Ohboy, Murky and Abathur? Time for Abathurs that sit in the base and don't soak and Murkies that do nothing but splitpush poorly, fun times in QM ahead! Especially with no free support... Abathur's who don't soak make me sad. Played last night as Nova with one of those, plus an Illidan who yolo-ed from gank-attempt to gank-attemp early game and well... we were many levels down before 10 hit. | ||
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[Phantom]
Mexico2170 Posts
I better play murky this weak if I want to be able to play at all. | ||
Wuster
1974 Posts
(For those that don't want to compare, Latin America account tweeted the rotation with Brightwing instead of Murky) | ||
MotherFox
United States1529 Posts
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Valiver
Caldeum1977 Posts
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
On August 11 2015 00:45 MotherFox wrote: I was wondering why raynors have been breaking out of team fights to attack me relentlessly, chasing me to the ends of the earth. Well those are just stupid. Chasing with Raynor lol. | ||
Garbels
Austria653 Posts
On August 11 2015 03:57 Valiver wrote: It's not going to be Murky - http://eu.battle.net/heroes/en/forum/topic/13604571130 Looks like the changed it hours later. On page two you can still see the original(thats where I got it from) | ||
TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
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Germany10114 Posts
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MotherFox
United States1529 Posts
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DoctorHot
United States42 Posts
I don't know if it's allowed to post a stream link in here - I couldn't find any rules not to - but I found a dude, twitch.tv/abathur1613, who plays all Abathur all the time, I learned pretty much everything I know from him. So if you're struggling with Abathur free week, go check him out. | ||
Harris1st
Germany6928 Posts
they didn't kill a single fort from us and we were alway 3-4 levels ahead with a 31:7 kill count With the Hat Murky can so be much more annoying than he already is and you just can't kill him ^^ | ||
FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
They will stop roaming pretty fast xD. | ||
Yoav
United States1874 Posts
On August 12 2015 16:36 DoctorHot wrote: Just got done playing for a bit, and wow the Abathurs I played with were painfully bad. So I switch to Abathur to not have to play with them, and my first game is against a Zeratul AND a Nova haha. I don't know if it's allowed to post a stream link in here - I couldn't find any rules not to - but I found a dude, twitch.tv/abathur1613, who plays all Abathur all the time, I learned pretty much everything I know from him. So if you're struggling with Abathur free week, go check him out. Thanks for linking this. Really enjoying these videos. | ||
Leolio
France633 Posts
Rule 1: Every team will have an Abathur. Rule 2: If you have no Abathur on your team, congratulation, you've just won a game. Rule 3: you shall not queue as Nova (bad with Abathur) or Murky (bad with and vs Abathur), my 2 mains. | ||
DarkPlasmaBall
United States44321 Posts
On August 14 2015 22:04 Leolio wrote: Worse than free Illidan week, free Abathur week. Rule 1: Every team will have an Abathur. Rule 2: If you have no Abathur on your team, congratulation, you've just won a game. Rule 3: you shall not queue as Nova (bad with Abathur) or Murky (bad with and vs Abathur), my 2 mains. Learn abathur on your own, play as him, win against teams with noob abathurs! ![]() | ||
MotherFox
United States1529 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44321 Posts
On August 14 2015 23:57 MotherFox wrote: The only thing I don't like about this is many of my friends are simply not logging on for QM games this week. I didn't think so many people would reject QM just because of one character :\ What if they did HL for the week instead? | ||
Immersion_
United Kingdom794 Posts
On August 14 2015 22:04 Leolio wrote: Worse than free Illidan week, free Abathur week. Rule 1: Every team will have an Abathur. Rule 2: If you have no Abathur on your team, congratulation, you've just won a game. Rule 3: you shall not queue as Nova (bad with Abathur) or Murky (bad with and vs Abathur), my 2 mains. Agree with the exception of Murky, who is an absolute beast with Abathur (a good one anyway). | ||
MotherFox
United States1529 Posts
August 18 rotation Malfurion Valla Anub'arak Tychus Nazebo Johanna (from level 12) Kael'thas (from level 15) | ||
Harris1st
Germany6928 Posts
were there ever TLV in the f2p rotation? or did i just miss them? On August 15 2015 01:57 Immersion_ wrote: Show nested quote + On August 14 2015 22:04 Leolio wrote: Worse than free Illidan week, free Abathur week. Rule 1: Every team will have an Abathur. Rule 2: If you have no Abathur on your team, congratulation, you've just won a game. Rule 3: you shall not queue as Nova (bad with Abathur) or Murky (bad with and vs Abathur), my 2 mains. Agree with the exception of Murky, who is an absolute beast with Abathur (a good one anyway). I had a game with me as Aba and a pretty good Murky. We owned actually pretty hard cause it was a MUST to have 2 heroes defending murky or he would have killed their core in under 10min, and i could even push/soak a second lane which resulted in a 2-3 level lead through the whole game. | ||
WonnaPlay
Netherlands912 Posts
On August 18 2015 20:02 Harris1st wrote: uh nice, finally getting a chance to play Joh were there ever TLV in the f2p rotation? or did i just miss them? I don't think so. Playing TLV as a former (good) sc player is so awesome. I love them so much, especially since I can carry my rl friends easily. For Hero league I use TLV on Battle for Eternity, Garden of Terror and sometimes Dragon Shire. <3 | ||
FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
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WonnaPlay
Netherlands912 Posts
On August 18 2015 22:54 FeyFey wrote: you missed them. Same week as Kael I think ? May 19, 2015 - May 25, 2015 | ||
MotherFox
United States1529 Posts
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
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kingjames01
Canada1603 Posts
On August 18 2015 23:45 FeyFey wrote: oh yeah so annoying my murky is level 4 and they removed him from last week because of the missing support T.T . I really don't think that they removed Murky. I've been tracking the free heroes each week for a very long time and it's clear that there is an algorithm which chooses the heroes for the week. As soon as I saw last week's list (the incorrect one which included Murky) I knew that there was something wrong. My best guess as to what happened is that the person who posted that Murky would be free simply made a mistake. It's perfectly conceivable that the poster looked at Brightwing's image and thought that it was Murky. | ||
Garbels
Austria653 Posts
I don't think anyone looks at pictures and then types a list. | ||
KobraKay
Portugal4231 Posts
On August 19 2015 00:18 kingjames01 wrote: Show nested quote + On August 18 2015 23:45 FeyFey wrote: oh yeah so annoying my murky is level 4 and they removed him from last week because of the missing support T.T . I really don't think that they removed Murky. I've been tracking the free heroes each week for a very long time and it's clear that there is an algorithm which chooses the heroes for the week. As soon as I saw last week's list (the incorrect one which included Murky) I knew that there was something wrong. My best guess as to what happened is that the person who posted that Murky would be free simply made a mistake. It's perfectly conceivable that the poster looked at Brightwing's image and thought that it was Murky. Agreed. So far haven't figured how it is processed but it is not random. For instance Leoric should be free next week (or in two weeks time, sorry i'm at work dont have the notes here) to follow KT and Johanna's pattern. Before last week it was expected that this was Johanna's second free week based on KT's footsteps so it matched expectations. That means that in a few weeks time, Joh will get her third free week and the Butcher will get the second (together, like Joh and KT this week) and probably after that week we will get the first monk free week. I reckon patch changes may affect the patterns since blizz may want to test some of the changes with more people. Regarding heroes missing, I've played them all free since April/March except Leoric/Monk (for obvious reasons). Well I've never played Murky or TLV either but by choice, as they were free for at least one week each since April/March. | ||
MotherFox
United States1529 Posts
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Wuster
1974 Posts
On August 18 2015 21:42 WonnaPlay wrote: Show nested quote + On August 18 2015 20:02 Harris1st wrote: uh nice, finally getting a chance to play Joh were there ever TLV in the f2p rotation? or did i just miss them? I don't think so. Playing TLV as a former (good) sc player is so awesome. I love them so much, especially since I can carry my rl friends easily. For Hero league I use TLV on Battle for Eternity, Garden of Terror and sometimes Dragon Shire. <3 I played TLV during their free week cuz I also used to play SC, so I wanted to see how it felt. Ya they were stupid good (this was pre-nerf), really stretched your multitasking and you could do cool stuff with them... I only played them once. I want a causal game damn it! | ||
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Katowice25012 Posts
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Garbels
Austria653 Posts
Week of Tuesday, August 25, 2015:
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KobraKay
Portugal4231 Posts
On August 24 2015 21:40 Garbels wrote: All shall suffer. Week of Tuesday, August 25, 2015:
Cool my prediction last page was correct and we have Leoric free this week indeed :D | ||
Wuster
1974 Posts
Then next week I can either finally do my placement matches or try the new Kerrigan and of course Leoric. Or maybe attempt #5 for learning Rehgar... | ||
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Valiver
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Larkin
United Kingdom7161 Posts
![]() Oh well, I'll get to try out Uther, Illidan and Azmodan I guess. | ||
Leolio
France633 Posts
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Zambrah
United States7297 Posts
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
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kingjames01
Canada1603 Posts
On September 01 2015 08:31 Larkin wrote: ![]() No, they were not. There's so much incorrect information out there, so please understand that this is not true. It was always going to be Brightwing but whoever looked at the Brightwing icon thought it was Murky. It's obvious based on the lineup that Murky could not have been the last hero. | ||
Zambrah
United States7297 Posts
On September 02 2015 00:49 FeyFey wrote: Jaina free week is like Nova free week. You play her to avoid misery ! It means I play Zeratul. :D | ||
Larkin
United Kingdom7161 Posts
On September 02 2015 02:38 kingjames01 wrote: Show nested quote + On September 01 2015 08:31 Larkin wrote: ![]() No, they were not. There's so much incorrect information out there, so please understand that this is not true. It was always going to be Brightwing but whoever looked at the Brightwing icon thought it was Murky. It's obvious based on the lineup that Murky could not have been the last hero. Ah, I see. It was reported here, so excuse me for believing it. Either way, he's long overdue a free week. We seem to have Raynor so often. | ||
Garbels
Austria653 Posts
On September 02 2015 02:38 kingjames01 wrote: Show nested quote + On September 01 2015 08:31 Larkin wrote: ![]() No, they were not. There's so much incorrect information out there, so please understand that this is not true. It was always going to be Brightwing but whoever looked at the Brightwing icon thought it was Murky. It's obvious based on the lineup that Murky could not have been the last hero. Why do you keep saying that. Do you really think someone at blizzard looks at Icons and then types some names in a post. So much can go wrong. And the murkygate is as close as a freeweek removal as is gets because I don't think they will ever remove a hero during free week. | ||
kingjames01
Canada1603 Posts
On September 02 2015 07:49 Garbels wrote: Show nested quote + On September 02 2015 02:38 kingjames01 wrote: On September 01 2015 08:31 Larkin wrote: ![]() No, they were not. There's so much incorrect information out there, so please understand that this is not true. It was always going to be Brightwing but whoever looked at the Brightwing icon thought it was Murky. It's obvious based on the lineup that Murky could not have been the last hero. Why do you keep saying that. Do you really think someone at blizzard looks at Icons and then types some names in a post. So much can go wrong. And the murkygate is as close as a freeweek removal as is gets because I don't think they will ever remove a hero during free week. I'm saying it because it's true. I've been tracking the free week heroes since I got into the Alpha. If the other 6 heroes named were correct, then it was impossible for the 7th to be Murky. | ||
kingjames01
Canada1603 Posts
On September 02 2015 05:40 Larkin wrote: Show nested quote + On September 02 2015 02:38 kingjames01 wrote: On September 01 2015 08:31 Larkin wrote: ![]() No, they were not. There's so much incorrect information out there, so please understand that this is not true. It was always going to be Brightwing but whoever looked at the Brightwing icon thought it was Murky. It's obvious based on the lineup that Murky could not have been the last hero. Ah, I see. It was reported here, so excuse me for believing it. Either way, he's long overdue a free week. We seem to have Raynor so often. Raynor comes up more frequently because he costs 2000 gold. There are only 6 of them in the game and there are always 2 heroes from the 2000 gold pool. | ||
Wuster
1974 Posts
IIRC one of the EU twitter accounts actually said Murky in the text while showing a picture of Brightwing in the hexegon of free week heroes too. | ||
FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
Whatever it was I still belief someone worked overtime and suddenly they noticed shit we got no support ! | ||
Mirgu
Latvia1 Post
Malfurion Valla Stitches Diablo Brightwing Sylvanas (Available after you reach player level 12) Zeratul (Available after you reach player level 15) There you go! | ||
Larkin
United Kingdom7161 Posts
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Radfield
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Canada2720 Posts
Li Li ETC Arthas Sonya Tychus Nazeebo (Available after you reach player level 12) Butcher (Available after you reach player level 15) Butcher Time! | ||
KobraKay
Portugal4231 Posts
On September 14 2015 21:50 Radfield wrote: Week of Tuesday, September 15, 2015: Li Li ETC Arthas Sonya Tychus Nazeebo (Available after you reach player level 12) Butcher (Available after you reach player level 15) Butcher Time! Hum I'm going by hearth here, dont have my notes with me, but based on past patterns we were supposed to test the monk for free this week? Or is it next week and my memory is failing? Will have to check tonight when I get home. Butcher second free week is on time. (maybe Johanna third, Leoric second and monk first are next week only and I'm just rememberig incorrectly?). | ||
KobraKay
Portugal4231 Posts
On September 14 2015 22:21 KobraKay wrote: Show nested quote + On September 14 2015 21:50 Radfield wrote: Week of Tuesday, September 15, 2015: Li Li ETC Arthas Sonya Tychus Nazeebo (Available after you reach player level 12) Butcher (Available after you reach player level 15) Butcher Time! Hum I'm going by hearth here, dont have my notes with me, but based on past patterns we were supposed to test the monk for free this week? Or is it next week and my memory is failing? Will have to check tonight when I get home. Butcher second free week is on time. (maybe Johanna third, Leoric second and monk first are next week only and I'm just rememberig incorrectly?). After further analysis the pattern is not so clear ![]() Nevertheless, I expect free Monk next week plus the third free week for Johanna. Depending on the shifts blizzard decides to implemente or not, we maybe get Leoric second free week as well (doubt it tho). Regardless, I expect Monk + johanna OR leoric. | ||
Wuster
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Valiver
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Muradin Tyrael Thrall Tyrande Gazlowe (Available after you reach player level 12) Kharazim (Available after you reach player level 15) | ||
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Valiver
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Valla Chen Rehgar Falstad Johanna (Available after you reach player level 12) Sgt. Hammer (Available after you reach player level 15) | ||
Larkin
United Kingdom7161 Posts
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Superbanana
2369 Posts
On September 29 2015 07:32 Larkin wrote: free chen a week before he is buffed, lol "Hey guys, remember that WoW panda? he's in this game!" | ||
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Valiver
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ETC Kaelthas Azmodan Uther Nova (Available after you reach player level 12) Anub'arak (Available after you reach player level 15) | ||
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EsportsJohn
United States4883 Posts
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Leolio
France633 Posts
- Raynor - Muradin - Tassadar - Jaina - Zagara - Nazeebo (level 12) - Rexxar (level 15) Expect Rexxar in every QM and on both teams all week long. :-) | ||
Harris1st
Germany6928 Posts
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
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Wuster
1974 Posts
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Cyanocyst
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Hier
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KrytosSR
United States28 Posts
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MotherFox
United States1529 Posts
On October 13 2015 23:38 KrytosSR wrote: I'm excited to get to try Rexxar but am curious where he fits into the warrior meta? He seems a little gimmicky to me I think we've seen first hand how effective misha can be at diving to the back of comps during team fights to zone out squishies like KT. | ||
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Valiver
Caldeum1977 Posts
Valla Stitches Arthas Gazlowe Brightwing (Available after you reach player level 12) Kerrigan (Available after you reach player level 15) | ||
KobraKay
Portugal4231 Posts
![]() And today is also Artanis day for LotV buyers correct? Should be a fun week if IRL and work are kind enough ![]() | ||
Garbels
Austria653 Posts
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Valiver
Caldeum1977 Posts
E.T.C. Sonya Tychus Sylvanas Leoric (Available after you reach player level 12) Kharazim (Available after you reach player level 15) | ||
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EsportsJohn
United States4883 Posts
On October 27 2015 04:18 Valiver wrote: Free Heroes for the week of October 27 - November 2
E.T.C. Sonya Tychus Sylvanas Leoric (Available after you reach player level 12) Kharazim (Available after you reach player level 15) I'm actually okay with all of these. Sounds like it'll be a decent week. | ||
Thezzy
Netherlands2117 Posts
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Larkin
United Kingdom7161 Posts
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Harris1st
Germany6928 Posts
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Russian Federation1612 Posts
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Valiver
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Muradin Diablo Tyrande Azmodan Zeratul (Available after you reach player level 12) Illidan (Available after you reach player level 15) | ||
Ej_
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there goes trying to test heroes in QM | ||
MotherFox
United States1529 Posts
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
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MotherFox
United States1529 Posts
On November 03 2015 06:19 FeyFey wrote: against Muradin, Diablo, Tyrande, Raynor ? Goodluck ! what else would you need practice against? :D | ||
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Germany10114 Posts
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Larkin
United Kingdom7161 Posts
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A_Scarecrow
Australia721 Posts
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Larkin
United Kingdom7161 Posts
Malfurion Valla Tyrael Thrall Chen Sgt. Hammer (Available after you reach player level 12) Lt. Morales (Available after you reach player level 15) | ||
FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
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Zambrah
United States7297 Posts
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KobraKay
Portugal4231 Posts
On November 10 2015 14:01 Zambrah wrote: MORALES! I must try another ranged support, I'm so damn tired of playing Uther. In the last few weeks it seems that I'm getting the 3 games as a support hero quest all the time....now that the medic is available to play, I bet you I wont get this quest :p such is my daily quest luck these days xD I was hoping for something more SC in the coming weeks due to the LotV launch but it seems it is not to be. Maybe in a few weeks, after people have time to complete the game will they launch more SC heroes to avoid spoilers or something? | ||
Slydie
1917 Posts
A cannon-rushing probe or a superfast, fragile wave-clearing helion would be the coolest imo, but all the main sc2 characters are already in the game... more to choose from in Diablo and WoW. | ||
Atoissen
Norway1737 Posts
On November 10 2015 18:31 Slydie wrote: Which other SC2 heroes are there? Fenix as dragoon, a helion, duran or a scv/drone/probe hero? A cannon-rushing probe or a superfast, fragile wave-clearing helion would be the coolest imo, but all the main sc2 characters are already in the game... more to choose from in Diablo and WoW. If u go deep into sc2, there are still lotts of personalities that could have been added. - Arcturus Mengsk - Valerian Mengsk - General Warfield - Matt Horner - Gabriel Tosh - Orlan - Mira Han - Samir Duran/Narud - Alexei Stukov To name a few... And just to give a picture of the distribution og heroes pr game: WoW: 22, SC2: 11, Diablo: 10. | ||
karazax
United States3737 Posts
On November 10 2015 17:53 KobraKay wrote: Show nested quote + On November 10 2015 14:01 Zambrah wrote: MORALES! I must try another ranged support, I'm so damn tired of playing Uther. In the last few weeks it seems that I'm getting the 3 games as a support hero quest all the time....now that the medic is available to play, I bet you I wont get this quest :p such is my daily quest luck these days xD I was hoping for something more SC in the coming weeks due to the LotV launch but it seems it is not to be. Maybe in a few weeks, after people have time to complete the game will they launch more SC heroes to avoid spoilers or something? I expected a focused Star Craft run with LotV launch too, but seems highly unlikely to not announce it at Blizzcon and announce the heroes they did. I'd be shocked if those are not the next 3 heroes to be released and that will run them thru the next month and a half to two months of new hero releases. | ||
Leolio
France633 Posts
On November 10 2015 20:46 Atoissen wrote: Show nested quote + On November 10 2015 18:31 Slydie wrote: Which other SC2 heroes are there? Fenix as dragoon, a helion, duran or a scv/drone/probe hero? A cannon-rushing probe or a superfast, fragile wave-clearing helion would be the coolest imo, but all the main sc2 characters are already in the game... more to choose from in Diablo and WoW. If u go deep into sc2, there are still lotts of personalities that could have been added. - Arcturus Mengsk - Valerian Mengsk - General Warfield - Matt Horner - Gabriel Tosh - Orlan - Mira Han - Samir Duran/Narud - Alexei Stukov To name a few... And just to give a picture of the distribution og heroes pr game: WoW: 22, SC2: 11, Diablo: 10. Human Kerrigan! This won't happen but I'd really love it. Also I'd add Swann (the dwarf in the armory) and Stettman (the scientist) both heroes you actually do play in the funny mission Belly of the Beast. | ||
Atoissen
Norway1737 Posts
On November 10 2015 23:01 Leolio wrote: It's official I hate playing Morales. Especially in QM. Ok I only played 1 game, but damn this level 5 will be a pain to get. Show nested quote + On November 10 2015 20:46 Atoissen wrote: On November 10 2015 18:31 Slydie wrote: Which other SC2 heroes are there? Fenix as dragoon, a helion, duran or a scv/drone/probe hero? A cannon-rushing probe or a superfast, fragile wave-clearing helion would be the coolest imo, but all the main sc2 characters are already in the game... more to choose from in Diablo and WoW. If u go deep into sc2, there are still lotts of personalities that could have been added. - Arcturus Mengsk - Valerian Mengsk - General Warfield - Matt Horner - Gabriel Tosh - Orlan - Mira Han - Samir Duran/Narud - Alexei Stukov To name a few... And just to give a picture of the distribution og heroes pr game: WoW: 22, SC2: 11, Diablo: 10. Human Kerrigan! This won't happen but I'd really love it. Also I'd add Swann (the dwarf in the armory) and Stettman (the scientist) both heroes you actually do play in the funny mission Belly of the Beast. Was thinking about Swann myself, but figured he might be a bit too similar too Muradin, and Tychus's Ultimate in some wierd mix :D Adding a scientist (Stettman) would open up for some really visually cool spells ;-) | ||
Harris1st
Germany6928 Posts
- Overmind There are enough ^^ How much fun would a Probe be! As some kind of Push-Spec! Q = Build pylon W = Warp in 2-3 zealots E = Warp in Cannons Trait = More life/damage/Move Speed near completed Pylons R1= Recall all Heroes to a Pylon R2= Summon a Protoss Deathball for 20secs, destroying everything in its path | ||
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Valiver
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E.T.C. Butcher Zagara Johanna Rehgar (Available after you reach player level 12) Kael'thas (Available after you reach player level 15) | ||
ShoCkeyy
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Larkin
United Kingdom7161 Posts
Butcher free week is always funny cause people don't know how to play him and run into towers... | ||
Slydie
1917 Posts
Butcher and Kael'thas is an interresting matchup. Butcher charge in, E-D-W-Q-W-boom! | ||
Leolio
France633 Posts
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Harris1st
Germany6928 Posts
On November 17 2015 03:23 ShoCkeyy wrote: I've never seen murky on the free week - good thing I just ended up buying him lol. look at the first page of this thread, ppl QQ'ing cause of murky free week ^^ | ||
Larkin
United Kingdom7161 Posts
Raynor Muradin Falstad Uther Nazeebo Jaina (Slot unlocked at Player Level 12) Kerrigan (Slot unlocked at Player Level 15) I'm kinda annoyed about this one because I have all these heroes owned or at level 5 already, but I've been looking forward to playing Falstad again. A lot of assassins/only one support will however make QM continue to be an utter nightmare composition wise. Still really wanting Aba/Murky/TLV freeweek. | ||
Harris1st
Germany6928 Posts
Raynor Jaina Uther Muradin Naz/Fals/Kerri | ||
Ramiz1989
12124 Posts
On November 24 2015 11:36 Larkin wrote: Hello all! The Free Hero Rotation for the week is as follows: Raynor Muradin Falstad Uther Nazeebo Jaina (Slot unlocked at Player Level 12) Kerrigan (Slot unlocked at Player Level 15) I'm kinda annoyed about this one because I have all these heroes owned or at level 5 already, but I've been looking forward to playing Falstad again. A lot of assassins/only one support will however make QM continue to be an utter nightmare composition wise. Still really wanting Aba/Murky/TLV freeweek. Aba free weak won't be happening for another year, since it happened few months ago. :D Murky and TLV should happen relatively Soon™. | ||
Leolio
France633 Posts
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Harris1st
Germany6928 Posts
I would play QM with Zera/ Nova all day long, make those learning curves for Aba players reeeeeeaally steep ![]() | ||
Garbels
Austria653 Posts
Week of Tuesday, December 1, 2015:
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Ramiz1989
12124 Posts
Free Week Rotation Counters Malfurion: high, single target burst damage. Valla: Stuns, long range CC. Anub'arak: Burst damage, Chain Bomb Tassadar: Chain CC Gazlowe: Pick someone else. Congrats, you countered Gazlowe. Nova: Tassadar, multiple warrior comps Artanis: Stuns, AA slows. Post-16 get the lube. I've laughed hard about Gazlowe. | ||
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United Kingdom7161 Posts
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Cyanocyst
2222 Posts
On December 01 2015 03:37 Larkin wrote: -________- Gazlowe Nova... gg I don't feel like gazlowe will be much of a problem this week. hes probably my 4th or 5 most played hero, and his survive-ability seems have been completely lost, with the scaling changes. Also Nova might be his number 1 threat. Also seems like nova already has a 100 percent participation rate in QM. So not really any different than normal. | ||
FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
Oh and that you will have Gazlows that go full Laynor. | ||
MotherFox
United States1529 Posts
On December 01 2015 01:11 Ramiz1989 wrote: From reddit: Show nested quote + Free Week Rotation Counters Malfurion: high, single target burst damage. Valla: Stuns, long range CC. Anub'arak: Burst damage, Chain Bomb Tassadar: Chain CC Gazlowe: Pick someone else. Congrats, you countered Gazlowe. Nova: Tassadar, multiple warrior comps Artanis: Stuns, AA slows. Post-16 get the lube. I've laughed hard about Gazlowe. I'm not sure that this is a counter list so much as "how to lock down and kill any hero in the game" since his answers to everything seem to involve burst or stunlocking. | ||
Leolio
France633 Posts
On December 02 2015 03:52 FeyFey wrote: just that now you either play Nova or you risk having a feeding Nova on your team that will never hit a minion or be in lane. Which is probably still normal. But these ones will miss every snipe ! Well, you don't want Nova to be in lane at all ! Yesterday I had one in QM. Honestly he wasn't really bad but man why did he spent so much time solo laning when the 4 other heroes can do it efficiently. If you don't take Abathur into account, and I don't mean mines or symlbiote, I mean auto attack yolo Abathur, she has the worst wave clear in the game. Unless you take all the useless talents which will make you lose. | ||
Laserist
Turkey4269 Posts
Statistically it is very hard to comprehend. It seems like best thing to do is picking Nova for yourself to avoid Nova ebola, fight fire with fire ![]() Edit: also my eyes(RIP) really hurt to find where the nova is. | ||
Harris1st
Germany6928 Posts
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Valiver
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ETC Tychus Sonya Illidan Tyrande (Available after you reach player level 12) Sylvanas (Available after you reach player level 15) | ||
karazax
United States3737 Posts
ETC Illidan, Leoric, LiLi, Rexxar, Sonya Thrall Tychus Tyrande, Sylvanas | ||
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On December 22 2015 04:52 Immersion_ wrote: Great news, wanting to try Kharazim as he looks like a fun support. Have 35k gold knocking around and building up to a spending spree! Always been tempted by Chen but worried he's a bit bad. honeslty he isn't as bad as people make him to be, sure he sucks big time vs CC, but if you see that your opponents somehow managed to pick a team without solid CC (which happens more than it should lol) Chen is more than viable also he bullies Zagara out of lane on Dragon Shire which is hilarious | ||
Zambrah
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Haven't gotten to do this with Murky. | ||
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Ramiz1989
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On December 22 2015 06:50 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: When will Lunara drop in price? A week from now? Yeah, it should be next week. | ||
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On December 22 2015 03:28 Valiver wrote: Free Heroes for the week of December 22 - December 28:
(Yep, that's Murky) No stealthers, no Sgt. Hammer and no Raynor. This'll be a good week. | ||
Ramiz1989
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On December 22 2015 06:50 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: When will Lunara drop in price? A week from now? If you wanted to buy her... you are the lucky one ![]() http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/forum/topic/20042826746 | ||
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On December 23 2015 00:37 Slydie wrote: Need to level up murky to 5, but I have no idea about playing him, so I am unsure if I want to be that evil to my teammates, mrglglglglgl spam this week... This is what vs AI is for! | ||
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On December 23 2015 00:37 Slydie wrote: Need to level up murky to 5, but I have no idea about playing him, so I am unsure if I want to be that evil to my teammates, mrglglglglgl spam this week... Queue up AI and see how fast you can split push to win. Thats what I do to level my specialists for fun. :D | ||
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On December 23 2015 03:27 Immersion_ wrote: Kharazim is so badass, I can see myself buying him and feeding in HL thinking I'm amazing. Kharazim is the best! The key is just not over committing with your dashes and always saving one to escape ^^. And of course, ALWAYS BE ATTACKING SOMETHING ![]() | ||
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On December 23 2015 05:49 SC2John wrote: Kharazim is the best! The key is just not over committing with your dashes and always saving one to escape ^^. And of course, ALWAYS BE ATTACKING SOMETHING ![]() We all know that moment, when your Assassins tell you to NOT focus the tank but the enemys DD's.... i'm the heal FFS, i attack whatever the hell i want! lol | ||
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Thanks for sharing. | ||
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Immersion_
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Been a while since I played Azmo or Sylvanas and can level Leoric from 1-5 but not massively interested in trying to buy on any of those. | ||
Larkin
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As I'm nearing 1500 games it's dawning on me I own practically every hero I want at the moment... Blizz hurry up and release new ones pls, just say yolo to balance and release 10 at once, who cares, just give me more! | ||
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On January 05 2016 16:01 Larkin wrote: Eurgh, sucky week. I was really hoping for Abathur, Rexxar or Artanis, since they (and Lunara) are the only heroes I don't have at 5+ yet. As I'm nearing 1500 games it's dawning on me I own practically every hero I want at the moment... Blizz hurry up and release new ones pls, just say yolo to balance and release 10 at once, who cares, just give me more! They gotta keep you thirsty and milk you wallet for $10 bucks just often enough that you don't register that you just spent ten bucks on Lunara. | ||
Swisslink
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On January 05 2016 16:01 Larkin wrote: Eurgh, sucky week. I was really hoping for Abathur, Rexxar or Artanis, since they (and Lunara) are the only heroes I don't have at 5+ yet. As I'm nearing 1500 games it's dawning on me I own practically every hero I want at the moment... Blizz hurry up and release new ones pls, just say yolo to balance and release 10 at once, who cares, just give me more! Yep, if they don't release another hero soon, I'll be approaching the point, where I can buy every hero for 15'000 gold as soon as they are released, very soon. And I doubt that's Blizzard's intention, tbh. But... I'd assume right now is the Cho'Gall release week? So, we kind of have to wait another ~3 weeks 'til the next one arrives? | ||
Larkin
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On January 05 2016 22:12 ThomasjServo wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2016 16:01 Larkin wrote: Eurgh, sucky week. I was really hoping for Abathur, Rexxar or Artanis, since they (and Lunara) are the only heroes I don't have at 5+ yet. As I'm nearing 1500 games it's dawning on me I own practically every hero I want at the moment... Blizz hurry up and release new ones pls, just say yolo to balance and release 10 at once, who cares, just give me more! They gotta keep you thirsty and milk you wallet for $10 bucks just often enough that you don't register that you just spent ten bucks on Lunara. I've yet to spend real money on this game - but surely if they released a bunch of heroes at once they'd be more likely to get people to spend real money because they want all the new heroes and can't afford them all with gold? | ||
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At least I can get Artanis to 5, had him on 4 for a while. Nothing else to do with this rotation... still waiting for next Abathur week. | ||
Jenia6109
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On January 12 2016 05:56 ThomasjServo wrote: Tychus suffers from, "other heroes do the same thing I do better," syndrome. Even Morales has a grenade but better ;D | ||
Talaris
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On January 12 2016 20:04 Jenia6109 wrote: Show nested quote + On January 12 2016 05:56 ThomasjServo wrote: Tychus suffers from, "other heroes do the same thing I do better," syndrome. Even Morales has a grenade but better ;D Tychus more sexy though ![]() | ||
ThomasjServo
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* ETC * Falstad * Zagara * Stiches * Kharazim * Nazeebo * Tassadar * Rexxar * Lunara I'm a bit surprised they would put Lunara out as early as this, but will make for some interesting games for people who don't own her hopping too far into towers. | ||
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Fairly difficult to test I would imagine. Still, Rexxar should be fun to try, already own Lunara and love her but don't get to use her much for fear of at least one teammate losing their shit before the game starts. | ||
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Muradin Uther Leoric Gazlowe Kerrigan Sonya (Available after player level 5) Sylvanas (Available after player level 7) Lt. Morales (Available after player level 12) Illidan (Available after player level 15) | ||
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Lost Vikings 36 Weeks Abathur 24 Weeks Cho'Gall 10 Weeks Zeratul 6 Weeks Chen 5 Weeks Murky 5 Weeks Tyrael 5 Weeks Jaina 4 Weeks Johanna 4 Weeks | ||
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On January 25 2016 23:47 SC2Toastie wrote: Just purchased TLV and having a blast. Its really hard though on QM cus against some comps (Nova!!!!!!!!!) or Maps they suck T_T I got them to 9 and I've not yet taken them out into QM even XD. I love them, but I'm of the opinion if I'm not able to keep em alive against AI adept AI, I wouldn't enjoy them in QM just yet. As a substitute for annoying specialists, I've been playing Murky in QM all the time. | ||
SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
On January 25 2016 23:52 ThomasjServo wrote: Show nested quote + On January 25 2016 23:47 SC2Toastie wrote: Just purchased TLV and having a blast. Its really hard though on QM cus against some comps (Nova!!!!!!!!!) or Maps they suck T_T I got them to 9 and I've not yet taken them out into QM even XD. I love them, but I'm of the opinion if I'm not able to keep em alive against AI adept AI, I wouldn't enjoy them in QM just yet. As a substitute for annoying specialists, I've been playing Murky in QM all the time. What. Lv 9 on vs AI experience gains? You must have a lot of time on your hands...... Though I feel like vs QM its easier. I do a better job of predicting human behavior over the bots :p | ||
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ThomasjServo
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On January 25 2016 23:57 SC2Toastie wrote: Show nested quote + On January 25 2016 23:52 ThomasjServo wrote: On January 25 2016 23:47 SC2Toastie wrote: Just purchased TLV and having a blast. Its really hard though on QM cus against some comps (Nova!!!!!!!!!) or Maps they suck T_T I got them to 9 and I've not yet taken them out into QM even XD. I love them, but I'm of the opinion if I'm not able to keep em alive against AI adept AI, I wouldn't enjoy them in QM just yet. As a substitute for annoying specialists, I've been playing Murky in QM all the time. What. Lv 9 on vs AI experience gains? You must have a lot of time on your hands...... Though I feel like vs QM its easier. I do a better job of predicting human behavior over the bots :p I'm not saying its logical, but I use them as a catch all for any quests they would satisfy, or for warm up games against AI before playing with a buddy. I just feel like I'd be doing a disservice to those who queue with me /shrug. I'll get over my fear one of these days. Stim Pack and having a friend helps too. | ||
SC2Toastie
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On January 26 2016 00:33 ThomasjServo wrote: Show nested quote + On January 25 2016 23:57 SC2Toastie wrote: On January 25 2016 23:52 ThomasjServo wrote: On January 25 2016 23:47 SC2Toastie wrote: Just purchased TLV and having a blast. Its really hard though on QM cus against some comps (Nova!!!!!!!!!) or Maps they suck T_T I got them to 9 and I've not yet taken them out into QM even XD. I love them, but I'm of the opinion if I'm not able to keep em alive against AI adept AI, I wouldn't enjoy them in QM just yet. As a substitute for annoying specialists, I've been playing Murky in QM all the time. What. Lv 9 on vs AI experience gains? You must have a lot of time on your hands...... Though I feel like vs QM its easier. I do a better job of predicting human behavior over the bots :p I'm not saying its logical, but I use them as a catch all for any quests they would satisfy, or for warm up games against AI before playing with a buddy. I just feel like I'd be doing a disservice to those who queue with me /shrug. I'll get over my fear one of these days. Stim Pack and having a friend helps too. They only qualify for Spec or Win/Play X games though.... :o? Oh well, to each their own. My QM MMR is messed up anyways so I feel no shame playing a hero in QM after trying him out vs AI once or twice :-) | ||
ThomasjServo
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On January 26 2016 01:10 SC2Toastie wrote: Show nested quote + On January 26 2016 00:33 ThomasjServo wrote: On January 25 2016 23:57 SC2Toastie wrote: On January 25 2016 23:52 ThomasjServo wrote: On January 25 2016 23:47 SC2Toastie wrote: Just purchased TLV and having a blast. Its really hard though on QM cus against some comps (Nova!!!!!!!!!) or Maps they suck T_T I got them to 9 and I've not yet taken them out into QM even XD. I love them, but I'm of the opinion if I'm not able to keep em alive against AI adept AI, I wouldn't enjoy them in QM just yet. As a substitute for annoying specialists, I've been playing Murky in QM all the time. What. Lv 9 on vs AI experience gains? You must have a lot of time on your hands...... Though I feel like vs QM its easier. I do a better job of predicting human behavior over the bots :p I'm not saying its logical, but I use them as a catch all for any quests they would satisfy, or for warm up games against AI before playing with a buddy. I just feel like I'd be doing a disservice to those who queue with me /shrug. I'll get over my fear one of these days. Stim Pack and having a friend helps too. They only qualify for Spec or Win/Play X games though.... :o? Oh well, to each their own. My QM MMR is messed up anyways so I feel no shame playing a hero in QM after trying him out vs AI once or twice :-) It is 90% me being an anxious bastard. I don't play QM or HL solo as it is, even when I do I tend to just mute the team most of the time. | ||
SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
On January 26 2016 01:16 ThomasjServo wrote: Show nested quote + On January 26 2016 01:10 SC2Toastie wrote: On January 26 2016 00:33 ThomasjServo wrote: On January 25 2016 23:57 SC2Toastie wrote: On January 25 2016 23:52 ThomasjServo wrote: On January 25 2016 23:47 SC2Toastie wrote: Just purchased TLV and having a blast. Its really hard though on QM cus against some comps (Nova!!!!!!!!!) or Maps they suck T_T I got them to 9 and I've not yet taken them out into QM even XD. I love them, but I'm of the opinion if I'm not able to keep em alive against AI adept AI, I wouldn't enjoy them in QM just yet. As a substitute for annoying specialists, I've been playing Murky in QM all the time. What. Lv 9 on vs AI experience gains? You must have a lot of time on your hands...... Though I feel like vs QM its easier. I do a better job of predicting human behavior over the bots :p I'm not saying its logical, but I use them as a catch all for any quests they would satisfy, or for warm up games against AI before playing with a buddy. I just feel like I'd be doing a disservice to those who queue with me /shrug. I'll get over my fear one of these days. Stim Pack and having a friend helps too. They only qualify for Spec or Win/Play X games though.... :o? Oh well, to each their own. My QM MMR is messed up anyways so I feel no shame playing a hero in QM after trying him out vs AI once or twice :-) It is 90% me being an anxious bastard. I don't play QM or HL solo as it is, even when I do I tend to just mute the team most of the time. 0_0 | ||
ThomasjServo
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On January 26 2016 01:20 SC2Toastie wrote: Show nested quote + On January 26 2016 01:16 ThomasjServo wrote: On January 26 2016 01:10 SC2Toastie wrote: On January 26 2016 00:33 ThomasjServo wrote: On January 25 2016 23:57 SC2Toastie wrote: On January 25 2016 23:52 ThomasjServo wrote: On January 25 2016 23:47 SC2Toastie wrote: Just purchased TLV and having a blast. Its really hard though on QM cus against some comps (Nova!!!!!!!!!) or Maps they suck T_T I got them to 9 and I've not yet taken them out into QM even XD. I love them, but I'm of the opinion if I'm not able to keep em alive against AI adept AI, I wouldn't enjoy them in QM just yet. As a substitute for annoying specialists, I've been playing Murky in QM all the time. What. Lv 9 on vs AI experience gains? You must have a lot of time on your hands...... Though I feel like vs QM its easier. I do a better job of predicting human behavior over the bots :p I'm not saying its logical, but I use them as a catch all for any quests they would satisfy, or for warm up games against AI before playing with a buddy. I just feel like I'd be doing a disservice to those who queue with me /shrug. I'll get over my fear one of these days. Stim Pack and having a friend helps too. They only qualify for Spec or Win/Play X games though.... :o? Oh well, to each their own. My QM MMR is messed up anyways so I feel no shame playing a hero in QM after trying him out vs AI once or twice :-) It is 90% me being an anxious bastard. I don't play QM or HL solo as it is, even when I do I tend to just mute the team most of the time. 0_0 I'm more of a one or two ping kind of guy. I just don't generally care a great deal for people getting uppity about things not going their way, or externalizing their frustration. | ||
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Thezzy
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On February 02 2016 02:46 ThomasjServo wrote: I'm not excited about Tychus being free this week. There are a few Tychus savants I've played with, but on the whole it is mining drills and vampiric assualts for days. So I hope I play against more Tychus than I play with. I play Tychus from time to time (usually with a friend who plays Morales for the Stim + Odin) and the Laser Drill isn't bad. Yeah at lvl 10 it isn't great, but with the level 20 talent that thing becomes monstrous. Not only can it shoot a target from half the screen away but the damage ramps up. It also allows Tychus to do his regular thing in the meantime, whereas with Odin he has to stun himself first and then just play with the Odin. Also note that the Laser can block a path which is a niche use but still useful at times. I've also been trying out (just to see if it could work) an AA build with Morales for the stim drone. You do insane amounts of damage, but you have to stand still to use it, so the usefulness is very limited, but any tank that walks up to you will melt. So hard. Fun build but not very effective. Does melt buildings though. The other thing I've been itching to try is to go for the grenade talents on 4 and 7 to provide a powerful poke (561 area dmg at lvl 20) that is effectively impossible to deny or dodge. It also does about 1400 damage to buildings for every single grenade (at lvl 20). I think you could seriously poke a Keep to death with that. The final thing I've learned is that Tychus completely counters Murky. Hard. Your high AA speed means pufferfish is useless and the combination of Overkill + Grenade will kill a Murky every time. If he bubbles, Overkill doesn't stop so you can just keep him in range and finish him off as soon as it expires. Usually it's best to start with Overkill to force out a bubble and then kill him with a grenade as soon it ends. It's just a shame his E is so crappy, that stunning out his Q effectively denies him hard and that he doesn't have too much in the form of real sustain or burst that would allow him to see some more regular pro play. And his Odin should give him Fortified/Resistant (25% less dmg) for the duration. It's a giant armored robot where he has to self-stun to get into it. It should provide some resistance at least. Also, his quotes/speeches are the best. Ohhh! Hehehe, that tickles! | ||
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Even given all that, though, we're talking like...maybe 2 or 3 games over three months out of hundreds that I play per month. | ||
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The AA build is interesting, especially when his trait is fully ramped though. That'd stack on the base of .67 attack speed he starts with up to 500% adding the 75% from stim drone right? That would put his attack speed over 3 or maybe even 4 per second if he stays alive if my math is right. I just have a major case of confirmation bias regarding the hero, I saw him run on OGN less than 4 months ago to what effect I forget though. With the right support I totally see it, | ||
Aceace
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On February 02 2016 03:15 Thezzy wrote: I've also been trying out (just to see if it could work) an AA build with Morales for the stim drone. If you have a Morales friend which will only protect you go for Focused Attack. (Don't laugh. Let me explain) I explained it already but i guess i have to write it again. Focused attack does NOT increase your next AA by %75. Actually it places a buff on your hero which will expire after 0.2 seconds after your next attack. Tychus with fully charged minigun + Nexus Frenzy manages to deal 1 more bonus attack. (btw Tychus has highest AA damage in the game.) If you have a friend which stims you Tychus manages get 9.5 (if im not mistaken) aps per second. I'm not that good at maths but if someone calculate how much damage increase with FA + stim i would be a happy man. I saw a charged Diablo died in seconds with that combo (Problem solver deals a lot of damage too) Tychus with heavy AA focus doesn't feel like a hero. It feels like lightning tower from W3. If you move you lose thousands of damage. (No stutter step ![]() ![]() | ||
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Also, Focused attack's value is in how bursty it is: old-Focus Attack Zeratul, current Sonya, and current Raynor all enjoy that when you move into attack you do a significant amount of damage on that first hit. Tychus loses a lot by having to have sustained focus fire to enjoy the talent fully. | ||
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On February 02 2016 05:21 Valiver wrote: Don't forget that focused attack is about to be nerfed a bit too. which brings up a great reason why I hate having generic talents tied to heroes ![]() | ||
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On February 02 2016 05:24 MotherFox wrote: Show nested quote + On February 02 2016 05:21 Valiver wrote: Don't forget that focused attack is about to be nerfed a bit too. which brings up a great reason why I hate having generic talents tied to heroes ![]() To be fair it's clear they wanted to nerf Sonya too. | ||
MotherFox
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On February 02 2016 05:36 Wuster wrote: Show nested quote + On February 02 2016 05:24 MotherFox wrote: On February 02 2016 05:21 Valiver wrote: Don't forget that focused attack is about to be nerfed a bit too. which brings up a great reason why I hate having generic talents tied to heroes ![]() To be fair it's clear they wanted to nerf Sonya too. And yet no one knows why ![]() | ||
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Netherlands3728 Posts
On February 02 2016 05:40 MotherFox wrote: Show nested quote + On February 02 2016 05:36 Wuster wrote: On February 02 2016 05:24 MotherFox wrote: On February 02 2016 05:21 Valiver wrote: Don't forget that focused attack is about to be nerfed a bit too. which brings up a great reason why I hate having generic talents tied to heroes ![]() To be fair it's clear they wanted to nerf Sonya too. And yet no one knows why ![]() The focused attack nerf affecting sonya was justified, it would be a mini nerf only anyway. focused attack in general was too good on most heroes though. The slam nerf on sonya in combination with the focused attack nerf is silly though and might make her a bit too weak. | ||
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On February 02 2016 06:57 Markwerf wrote: Show nested quote + On February 02 2016 05:40 MotherFox wrote: On February 02 2016 05:36 Wuster wrote: On February 02 2016 05:24 MotherFox wrote: On February 02 2016 05:21 Valiver wrote: Don't forget that focused attack is about to be nerfed a bit too. which brings up a great reason why I hate having generic talents tied to heroes ![]() To be fair it's clear they wanted to nerf Sonya too. And yet no one knows why ![]() The focused attack nerf affecting sonya was justified, it would be a mini nerf only anyway. focused attack in general was too good on most heroes though. ? Only ones that had it as a viable talent were Raynor and Sonya. Maybe Tyrande. I wonder if the nerf means we can get Focused Attack back on Zeratul though. | ||
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On February 02 2016 04:32 Thezzy wrote: I did try out the AA build but on 4 I usually went vampiric since you do so much AA dmg. I figured getting 75% on just one AA from Tychus wasn't worth it but I might have to revisit that now. Since we're talking AA build anyway... would it then be worth it to get the movement speed talent on 16 when the minigun is wound up? Would that allow you to use his AA while chasing? Obviously you give up Stoneskin which hurts but if one is going AA anyway... Even with %15 ms boost Tychus loses some dmg. But when you get also stim ms, damage loss is negligible. If they don't have a nova or zeratul i go for ms. Otherwise i had to go for Stoneskin. On February 02 2016 04:37 MotherFox wrote: Note that it is possible to stutterstep with tychus. It's just that it is difficult to stutterstep. Also, Focused attack's value is in how bursty it is: old-Focus Attack Zeratul, current Sonya, and current Raynor all enjoy that when you move into attack you do a significant amount of damage on that first hit. Tychus loses a lot by having to have sustained focus fire to enjoy the talent fully. I agree about that any other hero but Tychus. As i said before FA gives more then 1 AA bonus to him. It really increases his damage. Still i don't think Tychus with AA or Overkill competetive enough to play in ladder. But in QM (Morales+Rehgar+Tychus+2 front guys) its a whole different story. Btw in theory yes you can stutter step with him. But in practice you can't ![]() | ||
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E.T.C The Butcher Kael'thas Johanna Sergeant Hammer Arthas (Level 5) Brightwing(level 7) Zeratul (Level 12) Lost Vikings (Level 15) Get your Gathering Power here, bad vikings to abound. | ||
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In before KTs that think they can frontline and Zeratuls that dive solo expecting to blow everyone up just like that. With a bit of luck the KTs and Zeratuls will blow each other up to balance it back out. | ||
ThomasjServo
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On February 09 2016 03:48 Thezzy wrote: Oi. Free week KT and Zeratul. In before KTs that think they can frontline and Zeratuls that dive solo expecting to blow everyone up just like that. With a bit of luck the KTs and Zeratuls will blow each other up to balance it back out. Not before TLV spread chainbombs everywhere. | ||
Thezzy
Netherlands2117 Posts
On February 09 2016 03:50 ThomasjServo wrote: Show nested quote + On February 09 2016 03:48 Thezzy wrote: Oi. Free week KT and Zeratul. In before KTs that think they can frontline and Zeratuls that dive solo expecting to blow everyone up just like that. With a bit of luck the KTs and Zeratuls will blow each other up to balance it back out. Not before TLV spread chainbombs everywhere. Assuming the KT gets Chain Bomb. On a more serious note, I have actually tried out Pyromaniac on 13 and if you get two Living Bombs on different targets you can just cycle all of your spells constantly. Pretty insane damage you can put out with that. Mana Tap on 4 is needed though to ensure you're always on full mana. Still, since I've never seen anything other than Chain Bomb in the meta/pro games, I'll trust that Chain Bomb is still way better, if less fun. | ||
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On February 09 2016 03:57 Thezzy wrote: Show nested quote + On February 09 2016 03:50 ThomasjServo wrote: On February 09 2016 03:48 Thezzy wrote: Oi. Free week KT and Zeratul. In before KTs that think they can frontline and Zeratuls that dive solo expecting to blow everyone up just like that. With a bit of luck the KTs and Zeratuls will blow each other up to balance it back out. Not before TLV spread chainbombs everywhere. Assuming the KT gets Chain Bomb. On a more serious note, I have actually tried out Pyromaniac on 13 and if you get two Living Bombs on different targets you can just cycle all of your spells constantly. Pretty insane damage you can put out with that. Mana Tap on 4 is needed though to ensure you're always on full mana. Still, since I've never seen anything other than Chain Bomb in the meta/pro games, I'll trust that Chain Bomb is still way better, if less fun. Yeah, I just don't see it as being that big of a leap to assume chain bombs, I have started to see some more experimentation with other KT builds in games I've played but it is mostly Pyroblast or Gathering Power on 4 as the variations. | ||
MotherFox
United States1529 Posts
On February 09 2016 03:57 Thezzy wrote: Show nested quote + On February 09 2016 03:50 ThomasjServo wrote: On February 09 2016 03:48 Thezzy wrote: Oi. Free week KT and Zeratul. In before KTs that think they can frontline and Zeratuls that dive solo expecting to blow everyone up just like that. With a bit of luck the KTs and Zeratuls will blow each other up to balance it back out. Not before TLV spread chainbombs everywhere. Assuming the KT gets Chain Bomb. On a more serious note, I have actually tried out Pyromaniac on 13 and if you get two Living Bombs on different targets you can just cycle all of your spells constantly. Pretty insane damage you can put out with that. Mana Tap on 4 is needed though to ensure you're always on full mana. Still, since I've never seen anything other than Chain Bomb in the meta/pro games, I'll trust that Chain Bomb is still way better, if less fun. I've played around with this build, and the issue really is mana dependence even if you get mana tap. Any build on pretty much any hero which requires lane minions nearby to stay in teamfights is suspect IMO, since real battles don't always take place near minions. Put another way, you get marginal (5% or so) more damage than chain bomb builds, but get this huge dependence issue on minion waves to fill up your mana pool. | ||
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ThomasjServo
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On February 09 2016 05:04 Larkin wrote: Christ, TLV freeweek with KT and Zera... that's just so cruel The team that dictates the hero rotation just doubled down and said, "If Reddit wants to bitch about something, we'll give them something to bitch about." | ||
hariooo
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ThomasjServo
15244 Posts
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Leolio
France633 Posts
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Harris1st
Germany6928 Posts
On February 15 2016 22:40 ThomasjServo wrote:
Greymane but no squishies to pop besides the birdy ![]() | ||
Larkin
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Thezzy
Netherlands2117 Posts
Greymane though... | ||
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Valiver
Caldeum1977 Posts
Valla Nazeebo Diablo Sylvanas Kerrigan Tassadar (Slot unlocked at Player Level 5) Lunara (7) Stitches (12) Leoric (15) | ||
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Valiver
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E.T.C. Jaina Gazlowe Artanis The Butcher Uther (Slot unlocked at Player Level 5) Thrall (7) Azmodan (12) Nova (15) | ||
Ej_
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Thezzy
Netherlands2117 Posts
And Gazlowe. Oh dear... | ||
ThomasjServo
15244 Posts
On March 01 2016 07:33 Thezzy wrote: Butcher, Uther, Azmodan and Nova. And Gazlowe. Oh dear... Someone is giggling in California. | ||
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Valiver
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Valla Tyrael Anub'arak Tychus Sylvanas Rehgar (Slot unlocked at Player Level 5) Sgt. Hammer (7) Chen (12) Li-Ming (15) | ||
Thezzy
Netherlands2117 Posts
Newbie Tyrael and Hammer are probably the ones who'll die the most. | ||
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ThomasjServo
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shin ken
Germany612 Posts
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ThomasjServo
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ThomasjServo
15244 Posts
On March 15 2016 19:59 shin ken wrote: Unless you're like me and the worst keg user of all time. I think I almost always helped the enemy team more with that ult than my own guys :D. Hahahaha, I've learned to feel out my team before deciding how to use it. I had a stand out team on infernal shrines this week and I could pop behind a couple enemy player and keg them into the shrine and they would just blow them up. If you get the slow rolling teammates though, I just save it to let them escape or escape myself. I just love making those picks happen. | ||
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Valiver
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ETC Falstad Tassadar Nazeebo Greymane Sonya (Slot unlocked at Player Level 5) Kerrigan (7) Cho (12) Gall (15) | ||
karazax
United States3737 Posts
If the patch goes live tomorrow, then these heroes will all be usable in hero league if they are level 5 or higher even if you don't own them (and you have 14 or more heroes level 5 or higher). | ||
ThomasjServo
15244 Posts
On March 28 2016 22:49 karazax wrote: Free-to-Play Hero Rotation: March 29 - April,05 2016
If the patch goes live tomorrow, then these heroes will all be usable in hero league if they are level 5 or higher even if you don't own them (and you have 14 or more heroes level 5 or higher). Oh thanks for reminding me, I'm going to have to buy Tychus and Gazlowe tonight if everything goes through, otherwise I'll keep saving for Dehaka. | ||
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Valiver
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karazax
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ThomasjServo
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Cyanocyst
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On March 29 2016 02:57 ThomasjServo wrote: Isn't that the least efficient gold wise?Forcing the tychus buy from me. Oh well. I'm going to wait on dehaka for the time being. That is a gold purchase hero for me. If we use the the scale of (1 dollar = 1000 gold) derived from the 10 dollar price for 10,000 gold heroes. Tychus is 6.50 for a 4000 gold hero, So 4,000 gold divided by 6.50 = approx 615 gold per dollar. Quite the decrease. Point being, should buy expensive gold heroes and spend gold on cheap heroes. ...even though tomorrow ill be dishing 15k gold for dehakka . | ||
ThomasjServo
15244 Posts
On March 29 2016 10:57 Cyanocyst wrote: Show nested quote + Isn't that the least efficient gold wise?On March 29 2016 02:57 ThomasjServo wrote: Forcing the tychus buy from me. Oh well. I'm going to wait on dehaka for the time being. That is a gold purchase hero for me. If we use the the scale of (1 dollar = 1000 gold) derived from the 10 dollar price for 10,000 gold heroes. Tychus is 6.50 for a 4000 gold hero, So 4,000 gold divided by 6.50 = approx 615 gold per dollar. Quite the decrease. Point being, should buy expensive gold heroes and spend gold on cheap heroes. ...even though tomorrow ill be dishing 15k gold for dehakka . I mainly just don't want to pay actual money for Tychus on principle. | ||
karazax
United States3737 Posts
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Wuster
1974 Posts
But ya, unless you haev a way to get Lvl 5 asap to play in HL, Dehaka queues are going to be insane so maybe not worth 15k for that reason alone. | ||
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Valiver
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On March 30 2016 03:23 ThomasjServo wrote: Does level transfer from PTR over? PTR is totally separate, you have levels on each. | ||
ThomasjServo
15244 Posts
On March 30 2016 03:28 Valiver wrote: PTR is totally separate, you have levels on each. I'll file that one away. | ||
karazax
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ThomasjServo
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
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Larkin
United Kingdom7161 Posts
On April 06 2016 03:10 zlefin wrote: feels like butcher has been coming up a lot; maybe it's just cuz I like playing butcher so I notice it more. Well, there's 50 heroes in the game, 10 free every week, giving you a 1/5 chance. Considering they practically never give Abathur, Murky or TLV rotation slots, that makes it even higher chance for heroes like Butcher. | ||
fezvez
France3021 Posts
And as Morales, I get ganged so hard >< | ||
Slydie
1917 Posts
On April 06 2016 03:10 zlefin wrote: feels like butcher has been coming up a lot; maybe it's just cuz I like playing butcher so I notice it more. Well, there's 50 heroes in the game, 10 free every week, giving you a 1/5 chance. Considering they practically never give Abathur, Murky or TLV rotation slots, that makes it even higher chance for heroes like Butcher. Not to mention that the newest 5 heroes are also almost never in free rotation. | ||
karazax
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Harris1st
Germany6928 Posts
But almost no easy to pop heroes :/ Only Rexxar, the birdy and valla Leolio whats the actual Nova build with the most success? ^-^ | ||
Leolio
France633 Posts
Game plan: no risk, don't try to burst like the old Nova, remember you're useless in fights before level 7 (still participate) and you're OP at 16 with (double) Crippling shot. Don't abuse flanking, you can stay in the backline an outdps pretty much every hero in the game except a good Lunara, if you play well. Level 1: all are good, but the range on pinning shot is the best (Longshot), and the speed boost when you're cloaked is useful too (Advanced Cloaking). Worst talent is the increase of the slow, and it's still quite nice TBH. The mana regen is nice too but a bit too underperforming IMO (but you feel more free to use your mana on waves or camps). Level 4: all suck, the "less CD and less mana decoy" (Rapid projection) is better since you always have mana issues, but if you go lethal decoy (don't go lethal decoy) pick the "longer lasting decoy" (Holo Stability) as it'll output more damage obviously. Level 7: One in the Chamber gives you a critical AA after each ability use. Remember to use an ability (even the decoy), do an attack, use an ability, do an attack... Now you have good sustained damage. Level 10: Nuke of course. So much utility. If you're very good with Triple Tap AND if you go for the level 20 upgrade on Triple Tap, go for it. But nuke is way better, with a really low 60 secs CD (TT has 100 secs) and combo potential (Zag, ETC, Jaina, Zeratul, Tassadar, Johanna's stun...). And nuke has global range. Global range is always awesome. Level 13: Double pinning shot (Double Tap), because now your combo has 1 more ability and you'll have more critical auto attacks. Level 16: honestly, if you still have your 3 keeps by now, and are not too behind in levels, it's GG. Crippling shot, with 2 charges thanks to level 13. Now their tank will melt, and if they don't adapt to your pick (they usually don't notice) they won't even understand why they were fine until now and why they die instantly now. Level 20: Never used the special cloak escape (Ghost Protocol, cool name) more than 1 or 2 times because to me it sucks and I loved bolt of the storm wayyyy more. Now I take the 2nd nuke, because I play "team friendly Nova" (to me nuke = utility and combo). If you take Rewind you'll have the friggin' longest combo ever. Probably too long, but it's a good choice too. TBH I don't find Nova very much effective in QM anymore since you cannot burst the noobs (now it's Zeratul's job) unless you're really ahead in levels, or they really suck. But in HL, I don't even understand how she has 50% winrate on hotslogs, she feels like the most OP hero to me. I hope Blizzard don't touch her until my smurf is rank 1 too. ^^ | ||
Harris1st
Germany6928 Posts
![]() Nice that they are releasing some Rexxar buffs alongside the new rotation | ||
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MotherFox
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ETC Sylvanas Falstad Zagara Sonya Tassadar (Unlocked at Player Level 5) Stitches (7) Li-Ming (12) Tracer (15) | ||
karazax
United States3737 Posts
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Larkin
United Kingdom7161 Posts
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MarlieChurphy
United States2063 Posts
Really the only time I've seen her do good work is when she can land a combo setup with her recall ult. Chromie will sand blast you, ult you, drop the dragon and double sandblast you again with her Overload talent activated or whatever. but even then, it's just 1 hero killed or severely damaged and the rest of her kit is pretty shitty. Compared to all the other mages and long range heroes, she seems to be the weakest. Can someone make a counter argument for this? | ||
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United States1529 Posts
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JacobShock
Denmark2485 Posts
On May 24 2016 15:15 MarlieChurphy wrote: Is it just me or is Chromie really underwhelming compared to previous hero releases (when the new heroes are OP on purpose to be nerfed a few weeks later)? Really the only time I've seen her do good work is when she can land a combo setup with her recall ult. Chromie will sand blast you, ult you, drop the dragon and double sandblast you again with her Overload talent activated or whatever. but even then, it's just 1 hero killed or severely damaged and the rest of her kit is pretty shitty. Compared to all the other mages and long range heroes, she seems to be the weakest. Can someone make a counter argument for this? She seems to be around Jaina's level imo. People just don't seem to know how to play her, last I checked her winrate was around 30% on hotslogs. | ||
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ThomasjServo
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Leolio
France633 Posts
Seems like Blizzard had some mercy, as no Zeratul, Nova, Tracer, Falstad & Dehaka are free the same time as Chromie. | ||
karazax
United States3737 Posts
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Leolio
France633 Posts
It's not like anyone will let you draft him anyway. :-D | ||
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karazax
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Malfurion Valla Tyrande Tyrael Kerrigan Medivh Stiches (Slot unlocked at Player Level 5) Chromie (Slot unlocked at Player Level 7) Rexxar (Slot unlocked at Player Level 12) Nova (Slot unlocked at Player Level 15) | ||
karazax
United States3737 Posts
•Malfurion •Valla •Dehaka •Xul •Lunara •Falstad •Uther (Slot unlocked at Player Level 5) •Lt. Morales (Slot unlocked at Player Level 7) •Johanna (Slot unlocked at Player Level 12) •Rexxar (Slot unlocked at Player Level 15) | ||
karazax
United States3737 Posts
Li Li ETC Jaina Sylvanas Butcher Artanis Rehgar (Slot unlocked at Player Level 5) Diablo (Slot unlocked at Player Level 7) Chromie (Slot unlocked at Player Level 12) Zeratul (Slot unlocked at Player Level 15) Also: Muradin's gold cost will increase to 4,000 gold Diablo will reduce to 2,000 gold | ||
karazax
United States3737 Posts
Raynor Muradin Brightwing Zagara Sonya Tyrael Azmodan (Slot unlocked at Player Level 5) Tyrande (Slot unlocked at Player Level 7) Gul'dan (Slot unlocked at Player Level 12) Illidan (Slot unlocked at Player Level 15) | ||
karazax
United States3737 Posts
Malfurion Valla Tassadar Gazlowe Stiches Arthas Kael'thas (Slot unlocked at Player Level 5) Li-Ming (Slot unlocked at Player Level 7) Leoric (Slot unlocked at Player Level 12) Alarak (Slot unlocked at Player Level 15) | ||
Larkin
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karazax
United States3737 Posts
Li Li ETC Nazeebo Tychus Thrall Kerrigan Anub'arak Chen Auriel The Lost Vikings | ||
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United Kingdom794 Posts
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Harris1st
Germany6928 Posts
On October 18 2016 02:41 Immersion_ wrote: I miss being excited by these, got every hero I want now...played this game for too long! Haha ye, the only exciting things are now new skins and when the new hero drops to 10k ^^ | ||
Larkin
United Kingdom7161 Posts
On October 18 2016 02:41 Immersion_ wrote: I miss being excited by these, got every hero I want now...played this game for too long! Excuse me? Li Li is free this week... | ||
ThomasjServo
15244 Posts
On October 18 2016 04:18 Larkin wrote: Show nested quote + On October 18 2016 02:41 Immersion_ wrote: I miss being excited by these, got every hero I want now...played this game for too long! Excuse me? Li Li is free this week... Someone is ready for adventure. | ||
karazax
United States3737 Posts
• Malfurion • Valla • Sylvanas • Artanis • Butcher • Lunara • Falstad (lv5) • Dehaka (lv7) • Medivh (lv12) • Zarya (lv15) | ||
Thezzy
Netherlands2117 Posts
The newbie unfriendly ones this time seem to be Medivh, Butcher and Artanis. I wish they'd just give Artanis his E during his Q already. It was fun in the PTR. | ||
karazax
United States3737 Posts
Raynor Muradin Azmodan Rehgar Arthas Tyrande Nazeebo (Slot unlocked at Player Level 5) Alarak (Slot unlocked at Player Level 7) Chromie (Slot unlocked at Player Level 12) Rexxar (Slot unlocked at Player Level 15) | ||
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karazax
United States3737 Posts
Li Li ETC Johanna Tychus Sylvanas Kharazim Thrall (Slot unlocked at Player Level 5) Zeratul (Slot unlocked at Player Level 7) Gall (Slot unlocked at Player Level 12) Cho (Slot unlocked at Player Level 15) | ||
Wuster
1974 Posts
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ThomasjServo
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Larkin
United Kingdom7161 Posts
Malufrion Valla Nazeebo Anub'arak Lunara Dehaka Rehgar (Slot unlocked at Player Level 5) Illidan (Slot unlocked at Player Level 7) Chen (Slot unlocked at Player Level 12) Nova (Slot unlocked at Player Level 15) Bust out the buffed Rehgar when the patch drops. Wreck some fools in QM with Nazeebo's stupid damage (full Q build, E build and W build are viable now). Test out if Anub's health buff makes him more viable now. Tier 1 Valla and Malf there for some easy practice. Remind yourself Lunara exists. See if Dehaka's rework really made him into a solo tank. And get salty about the influx of Novas and Illidans and people who don't know how to play Chen. | ||
karazax
United States3737 Posts
Malfurion Valla Tyrael Kael'thas Zarya Sylvanas Artanis (Slot unlocked at Player Level 5) Brightwing (Slot unlocked at Player Level 7) Alarak (Slot unlocked at Player Level 12) Medivh (Slot unlocked at Player Level 15) | ||
karazax
United States3737 Posts
Raynor Muradin Johanna Falstad Uther Nazeebo Tyrande (Slot unlocked at Player Level 5) Rexxar (Slot unlocked at Player Level 7) Sgt. Hammer (Slot unlocked at Player Level 12) Ragnaros (Slot unlocked at Player Level 15) | ||
karazax
United States3737 Posts
Raynor Muradin Johanna Falstad Uther Nazeebo Tyrande (Slot unlocked at Player Level 5) Rexxar (Slot unlocked at Player Level 7) Sgt. Hammer (Slot unlocked at Player Level 12) Ragnaros (Slot unlocked at Player Level 15) | ||
karazax
United States3737 Posts
Raynor Muradin Sonya Gazlowe Rehgar Jaina Kharazim (Slot unlocked at Player Level 5) Illidan (Slot unlocked at Player Level 7) Zeratul (Slot unlocked at Player Level 12) Zul'jin (Slot unlocked at Player Level 15) | ||
karazax
United States3737 Posts
Malfurion Valla Diablo Alarak Sylvanas Greymane Rexxar (Slot unlocked at Player Level 5) Varian (Slot unlocked at Player Level 7) Uther (Slot unlocked at Player Level 12) Nova (Slot unlocked at Player Level 15) | ||
karazax
United States3737 Posts
Li Li ETC Nazeebo Gul'dan Tyrael Tassadar Kael'thas (Slot unlocked at Player Level 5) Illidan (Slot unlocked at Player Level 7) Chen (Slot unlocked at Player Level 12) Chromie (Slot unlocked at Player Level 15) | ||
karazax
United States3737 Posts
Raynor Muradin Falstad Leoric Tyrande Sgt. Hammer Anubarak (Slot unlocked at Player Level 5) Illidan (Slot unlocked at Player Level 7) Tracer (Slot unlocked at Player Level 12) Valeera (Slot unlocked at Player Level 15) | ||
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