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Weekly Free Heroes Rotation

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Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-22 18:35:54
March 17 2015 20:04 GMT
#1
A thread to discuss the free heroes for the week. What works, what doesn't? Easy builds if you're talent locked?

      Free Heroes for the week of December 22 - December 28:
  • Malfurion
  • Valla
  • Arthas
  • Kharazim
  • Tyrael
  • Zagara

  • Kerrigan (Available after you reach player level 5)
  • Chen (7)
  • Kael'thas (12)
  • Murky (15)


Check Liquipedia for more info on heroes!
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[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-17 20:09:24
March 17 2015 20:08 GMT
#2
Murky free week.

RIP quickmatch, i dom't plan to even touch that thing, looks like only coop and hero league this time.

Or maybe i'll troll with murky, who knows, how do people build him? is the hotlogs talent section trsuteable for him since he doesn't see any play at the competitive level?
WriterTeamLiquid Staff writer since 2014 @Mortal_Phantom
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
March 17 2015 21:02 GMT
#3
On March 18 2015 05:08 [Phantom] wrote:
Murky free week.

RIP quickmatch, i dom't plan to even touch that thing, looks like only coop and hero league this time.

Or maybe i'll troll with murky, who knows, how do people build him? is the hotlogs talent section trsuteable for him since he doesn't see any play at the competitive level?


Check out this comprehensive answer by NickHotS:

Murky Thought Process and Builds
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
Hryul
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Austria2609 Posts
March 18 2015 02:06 GMT
#4
I really love murky. at least in yoloQ unranked. slime does pretty decent damage to assassins and with clever egg placement you can die w/o problem.
just requires a bit of thinking ahead.
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kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
March 24 2015 17:39 GMT
#5
This week's (March 24, 2015 - March 30, 2015) Free Hero Rotation:

  • Anub'arak
  • Arthas
  • Kerrigan
  • Malfurion
  • Valla

  • Nazeebo (Available after reaching Player Level 12)
  • Thrall (Available after reaching Player Level 15)


I'm glad Anub'arak is free this week. He's one of 3 Heroes I have left that aren't Level 5 or higher.

I WANT THAT FREE GOLD!!
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
March 31 2015 02:11 GMT
#6
This week's (March 31, 2015 - April 6, 2015) Free Hero Rotation:

  • Li Li
  • ETC
  • Diablo
  • Tyrande
  • Tychus

  • Gazlowe (Available after reaching Player Level 12)
  • Zeratul (Available after reaching Player Level 15)


Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4231 Posts
March 31 2015 07:45 GMT
#7
On March 31 2015 11:11 kingjames01 wrote:
This week's (March 31, 2015 - April 6, 2015) Free Hero Rotation:

  • Li Li
  • ETC
  • Diablo
  • Tyrande
  • Tychus

  • Gazlowe (Available after reaching Player Level 12)
  • Zeratul (Available after reaching Player Level 15)




Sigh...not that fun of a week for me then. The two I like, Diablo (is the only one I own) and Zeratul (was going to be my next buy) are going to get a lot of usage this week ^^.

Maybe I'll get a few of the others to level 5 for that gold reward. I am hoping for an Azmodan, Abathur free week
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
MarlieChurphy
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States2063 Posts
March 31 2015 10:53 GMT
#8
OP needs to be updated to change the date each time or just remove the date all together and be stickied.

When is Sylvannas going to be on rotation and drop in gold price? I thought they generally do 1 week?
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NihilisticGod
Profile Joined March 2011
Northern Ireland174 Posts
March 31 2015 11:14 GMT
#9
On March 31 2015 19:53 MarlieChurphy wrote:
When is Sylvannas going to be on rotation and drop in gold price? I thought they generally do 1 week?


I see the Lost Vikings are down to 10k but still yet to see them on rotation. Could be a good while before we see Sylvannas on rotation to try out in a game!
Too weird to live... too rare to die.
Big G
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy835 Posts
March 31 2015 11:59 GMT
#10
On March 31 2015 19:53 MarlieChurphy wrote:
OP needs to be updated to change the date each time or just remove the date all together and be stickied.

When is Sylvannas going to be on rotation and drop in gold price? I thought they generally do 1 week?

Price drop after 2 weeks

Free rotation... only Blizzard knows. I think we'll see the Vikings for the first time in the next couple of weeks.


Luiwtf
Profile Joined January 2011
England217 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-31 12:02:50
March 31 2015 12:02 GMT
#11
On March 31 2015 19:53 MarlieChurphy wrote:
OP needs to be updated to change the date each time or just remove the date all together and be stickied.

When is Sylvannas going to be on rotation and drop in gold price? I thought they generally do 1 week?


New heroes drop from 15k to 10k after 2 weeks, so she should be 10k next week. No idea when she'll go free rotation though, TLV haven't been on yet.

Just had a look, Thrall was released on the 13th of Jan, he went on the free rotation for the first time on the 24th of Feb, so 6 weeks gap. Jaina was released on the 2nd of Dec, and went on free rotation on the 6th of Jan, so 5 weeks gap for her.

TLV were released on the 10th of Feb, it's been 7 weeks since then, so going by Thrall and Jaina they're due to be on rotation, but I'm not sure if Blizzard will actually put them on rotation any time soon.
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
March 31 2015 12:58 GMT
#12
I really hope so. I'm only missing Abathur, The Lost Vikings and Sylvanas for the Level 5 reward.

Other than what my Daily Quests force me to do, I think I'll be playing Gazlowe and Tyrande this week.
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-31 14:10:15
March 31 2015 14:09 GMT
#13
Sweet rotation for me this week. Really looking forward to playing Tychus, Zeratul and Tyrande!
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
March 31 2015 15:36 GMT
#14
On March 31 2015 23:09 Radfield wrote:
Sweet rotation for me this week. Really looking forward to playing Tychus, Zeratul and Tyrande!

Radfield! Loooooong time no see! :D

On March 31 2015 11:11 kingjames01 wrote:
This week's (March 31, 2015 - April 6, 2015) Free Hero Rotation:

  • Li Li
  • ETC
  • Diablo
  • Tyrande
  • Tychus

  • Gazlowe (Available after reaching Player Level 12)
  • Zeratul (Available after reaching Player Level 15)



I just shamefully stole this to post in the op, thanks man! ^^
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FT.aCt)Sony
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1047 Posts
March 31 2015 15:39 GMT
#15
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/heroes/Free_Rotation

Page has reflected the free hero rotation for the week.
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-31 19:52:17
March 31 2015 19:51 GMT
#16
On April 01 2015 00:36 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2015 23:09 Radfield wrote:
Sweet rotation for me this week. Really looking forward to playing Tychus, Zeratul and Tyrande!

Radfield! Loooooong time no see! :D



Good to see you too :D

Life is busy busy, but I've been thoroughly enjoying playing hots the last month or so. Still working my way through learning the characters, but so far so good.

Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
March 31 2015 21:31 GMT
#17
On March 31 2015 23:09 Radfield wrote:
Sweet rotation for me this week. Really looking forward to playing Tychus, Zeratul and Tyrande!


Same here minus Tychus (as I own him). Really curious how Zeratul and Tyrande feel now.

Way back in Alpha I only played co-op until I had one of those games where I landed everything with Tyrande, which convinced me I was ready for Quick Match. So I've always had a soft spot in my heart for her.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
March 31 2015 22:20 GMT
#18
~.~ Wanted to play Tychus and ETC for my last day of stimpack. Every game talentgated and not counting afterwards except the gold gain which is insane because i get endless rewards again and again.
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
April 02 2015 18:25 GMT
#19
I ended up grinding out Diablo to lvl 5, since I haven't played him since his buff. He's definitely a hard hitter and since most tanks go nerfed survivability-wise his lack of on-demand heal or escape isn't that glaring of a weakness anymore.

I am surprised how much more useful Apoc is than the last time I played. One game we landed this combo - Roots, Overpower into them, Zombie Wall then Apoc. It was pretty funny watching them explode. We had a Gazlowe on the team too, but we didn't need his contribution since we were snowballing hard on Sky Temple so level lead was more than enough damage. It's also pretty gratifying being able to use Shadow Charge and Overpower to *put* people into avoidable CC.

One thing I'm starting to notice with Diablo is you never know how much HP he has due to his trait. So you can see him at half health and have no idea what that means. It makes people overcommit to killing him or scared to waste their rotation on you sometimes. I had a game where my screen turned red for low damage but I had 2.5k hp pre-lvl 20. His health pool really is insane. I suppose it has to be since every other Warrior minus Muradin (who gets an escape) has either on-demand healing or a shield (Sonya's healing sucks, I know).
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-07 16:17:23
April 07 2015 16:16 GMT
#20
Free Hero Rotation for April 7th - April 14th



[image loading] Muradin [image loading] Raynor [image loading] Nova [image loading] Tyrael [image loading] Tassadar

[image loading] Zagara (lvl12)

[image loading] Rehgar (lvl15)



Beware, it's Nova again !
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Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
April 07 2015 18:01 GMT
#21
Hmm, might be the week to practice my Tyrael.

Nova is my guilty pleasure though and I own / not interested in any of the others. So decisions, decisions!
Nizaris
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium2230 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-07 22:48:48
April 07 2015 18:09 GMT
#22
i just tried muradin, good fun tbh. gonna be nice to try out nova see if i buy her.

edit: Nova is awesome fun.
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
April 07 2015 18:10 GMT
#23
Glad to see Tassadar and Zagara! Looking forward to playing both of those. The others have all been free in the past few weeks, so less pumped about that ;P

I'm hoping to see Hammer, Jaina, Illidan and Chen in the coming weeks!
Alexc26
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom222 Posts
April 08 2015 10:11 GMT
#24
Kind of annoying as I bought the starter pack (Think it was that one) which gave me Raynor, Malfurion and Muradin, so to see 2 of them in this week is a shame, but a decent mixture for me to try.
RiZu
Profile Joined February 2012
Singapore5715 Posts
April 08 2015 11:24 GMT
#25
Zagara is by far my favorite hero in this week rotation, I just love to spread dem creeps all over the map. That hero also does amazing damage in 1 v 1 and just straight up destroy any lane 1 v 1 and do well even in 1 v 2 situation early. Double Hunter killer is just too much
4tre55
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany330 Posts
April 08 2015 12:54 GMT
#26
Nove weeks are always great, if you can play a good Nova yourself and the other team gets stuck with one of the many bad ones you just keep on winning.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
April 08 2015 13:54 GMT
#27
Everytime I see Nova being free I pick up Tassadar every single game and watch them fail miserably.
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
Dekalinder
Profile Joined December 2012
Italy166 Posts
April 08 2015 19:18 GMT
#28
Tassadar does not counter nova that hard imho. The trait is nice without a doubt, but the mark of a competent nova is the early game roaming witch screws over the opposing team, tassadar or not. Also, nova with triple tap is the bane of split pushers, witch again is not countered by tassadar unless you make him sit behind the split pusher, at witch point it means you are just five-manning.
Basically, the point i'm tring to make is that, while tassadar may counter nova in straight engagements, the correct nova playstyle brings her to never actually be near tassadar unless is for cleanup duty.
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
April 08 2015 19:44 GMT
#29
I honestly don't think Nova is very strong early game. Not to mention you can make yourself nearly un-snipeable if you just cozy up with your minions in lane if Nova is missing.
Wat
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
April 08 2015 20:06 GMT
#30
Yeah but if Nova gets a level 4 kill then you will have a hard time from there.

Nova vs Nova is so weird. It is only about denying the other Novas stacks and not dieing. And praying that you don't end up fighting Tyrael and Sonya with Tassadar around.
Dekalinder
Profile Joined December 2012
Italy166 Posts
April 09 2015 08:56 GMT
#31
If you stick inside the minion waves you are generally going to take a lot of harras from wave-clearing spells. Also, people think too much of nova as nothing but snipe. She has a decent slow that can be enaugh to let your ally come in range for the follow up, and maybe then you line up the perfect snipe. Even if you don't kill him staight up, you have pretty much screwed his lane.
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
April 09 2015 12:45 GMT
#32
On April 08 2015 20:24 RiZu wrote:
Zagara is by far my favorite hero in this week rotation, I just love to spread dem creeps all over the map. That hero also does amazing damage in 1 v 1 and just straight up destroy any lane 1 v 1 and do well even in 1 v 2 situation early. Double Hunter killer is just too much


I agree. This will be a Zagara week for me!
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
Thezzy
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands2117 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-09 14:01:13
April 09 2015 13:59 GMT
#33
Yeah Zagara was my first hero to play when I got a beta key and she was on rotation at the time.
I bought her as my first hero and never regretted it. She's a ton of fun, even with a bad team you can still contribute so much.

Usually my talents are:

Creep Heal
Envenomed Spines (+20% range & extra AA dmg over time)
Endless Creep (50% more creep and more health on tumors)
Maw (I've tried Nydus and it's good but Maw is just too good in a teamfight)
Mutalisk
2x Mutalisk
Bolt of the Storm

The amount of damage you can put out with double Mutalisk and your AA builds up very fast.
With Endless Creep, your entire lane should be covered in creep from top to bottom.
Make sure to overlay your creep zones a bit so that the opponent has no idea where the tumors are.
Always place creep tumors in bushes and edges and then work your way in.
A creep tumor in the middle of the lane is just AoE bait.
Always creep up the objectives and bushes as much as possible.
Having a creep tumor in the vents or below Blackheart on his map provides great intel.

Mutalisks have two massive advantages, which are that they can fly and thus ignore any obstacles on the ground, and that they last 50% longer. They will whittle down a Hero so fast if they are not killed. Many Heroes have died to a Mutalisk chasing them down.

How I usually play Zagara once she gets AA range talent is to poke/bully the enemy heroes as much as possible and keeping an eye on the bushes. Ambushing Zagara should be nearly impossible with good creep spread, Nova + Zeratul combo excepted. If an enemy hero is in the bushes, throw Banelings on them and a Drop Pod, since they are your harder abilities to land.

Against Assassins, the Hydra and later Mutalisk will keep them at bay at risk of losing health.
If an Assassin jumps you and they are alone, turn around and murder them.
I've had a lot of Valla's, Nova's and even Thrall's trying to solo Zagara and losing painfully due to the raw damage output of double Mutalisk, Banelings to the face, Drop Pod and Auto-Attack, not to mention your regeneration on creep.

Her Maw is essentially her version of Zeratul's Void Prison and should be used as such.
This means you keep it off cooldown for that one teamfight where it will make all the difference.
Only use it against single Heroes or without your team nearby if it saves you or a teammate.
Note that the Maw itself acts like a forcefield for its duration and can be used to block an area for a few precious seconds.

Nydus provides amazing split-pushing potential and even a decent escape, but at the cost of not having Maw.

That all said, Zagara is a squishy with no CC other than her Maw and off creep you will know it.
Stay on creep and make sure the creep stays up. It will provide you with a near immunity to ambushes if you play it carefully and you can freely and endlessly harass Heroes on creep because you will be faster and regenerate whatever pokes they give back.

Other things to note:

You can use Banelings to zone out a fleeing Hero. Roll the Baneling ahead of the Hero, forcing them to either eat the Baneling damage, or stop and face whatever they are fleeing from.

When dealing with a Boss, alternate Drop Pod and Hunter Killer.
A Boss will always go for the Drop Pod Roachlings if you drop them on his head.
Once they die, deploy Hunter Killer and it should go for that.
By the time that dies, Drop Pod should be off cooldown again, rinse and repeat.

Drop Pod has quite a range on it and actually deals decent damage on impact against another squishy.
Don't be afraid to land a Drop Pod ahead of a low-health hero and nab a kill.

The best advice I could give to new Zagara players is to just spread that creep.
Every bush, every corner and one next to your gate/fountain. Always stay on creep and always make sure the creep Trait is on cooldown.
Playing Terran is like flying down a MULE drop in a marine suit, firing a Gauss Rifle
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
April 13 2015 17:08 GMT
#34
This week's (April 14, 2015 - April 20, 2015) Free Hero Rotation:

  • Malfurion
  • Valla
  • Chen
  • Uther
  • Sonya

  • Sgt. Hammer (Available after reaching Player Level 12)
  • Falstad (Available after reaching Player Level 15)


I don't have any of the images to format this post the way that 739 did last week. Hopefully 739 or someone can replicate that post again!
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
Thezzy
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands2117 Posts
April 13 2015 17:45 GMT
#35
Hammer on free rotation, the B.net forums will likely be filled up with Hammer OP topics once again, just like with poor Nova this week. Valla is way too often on rotation, probably since a lot of players already have her via D3 RoS.
Playing Terran is like flying down a MULE drop in a marine suit, firing a Gauss Rifle
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
April 13 2015 19:53 GMT
#36
Sweet, Chen and Hammer fun time! Haven't played falstad at all either, so I will have to give him a whirl too.
Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4782 Posts
April 13 2015 20:44 GMT
#37
Anyone have some good hammer/chen builds?
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4231 Posts
April 13 2015 21:08 GMT
#38
Sgt. Hammer on rotation for the first time for me :D sad that Im not going to be able to play much this week, but at least I should get a good notion if I want to buy the hero or not.

Other than that, this week I could only see fun in playing Valla (already played 2 weeks I believe) and Sonya (I really liked the combination of her talents, one of the first heroes I leveled to 5 to get that 500g bónus :D).

Last week was pretty good, several heroes that I wanted to try out. I have to say that Tassadar was the most surprising, had a lot of fun with him. The lane clearing and xp contribution are great and you can also put in some clutch healings.
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
Nizaris
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium2230 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-13 22:05:55
April 13 2015 22:03 GMT
#39
On April 14 2015 02:45 Thezzy wrote:
Hammer on free rotation, the B.net forums will likely be filled up with Hammer OP topics once again, just like with poor Nova this week. Valla is way too often on rotation, probably since a lot of players already have her via D3 RoS.

lol nova is the slayer of noobs not surprised they are crying if you can't spot her while she's cloaked you're gonna have a bad time. she can 100-0 any hero doesn't matter who, once she gets rewind. although i mostly get bolt as she is desperate for survivability. glad i trained myself to see obsv in sc2 i can usually spot her unless i'm focusing on something else.
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
April 14 2015 14:51 GMT
#40
It's always satisfying getting the jump on a nova/zeratul who thinks they are hidden. I mean, you know there is a cloaked unit in the game, so you should be constantly prepped for it.

I really wish you could play the free weekly heroes in Hero League.
Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
April 14 2015 15:43 GMT
#41
On April 14 2015 23:51 Radfield wrote:
It's always satisfying getting the jump on a nova/zeratul who thinks they are hidden. I mean, you know there is a cloaked unit in the game, so you should be constantly prepped for it.

I really wish you could play the free weekly heroes in Hero League.

Yeah they should let anyone who has a free hero level 5 or so play them in hero league, or at least team league. In team league everyone's partied so they should be able to make the decision of if they want someone playing a free hero they might not be the best with.
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Big G
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy835 Posts
April 20 2015 13:48 GMT
#42
April 21-28

Arthas
E.T.C.
Kerrigan
Li Li
Tychus
Nazeebo (lvl12)
Illidan (lvl15)


AKA "who has the worst Illidan loses" week
Leolio X
Profile Joined April 2015
France26 Posts
April 20 2015 15:25 GMT
#43
On April 20 2015 22:48 Big G wrote:
AKA "who has the worst Illidan loses" week

This. Illidan is such a strong and cool character in the Warcraft universe every newcomer wants to use him, and since he's arguably the most difficult assassin to handle, it never ends up well.
Zidane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1686 Posts
April 20 2015 15:35 GMT
#44
In terms of mechanics, I actually consider him pretty brain dead to play. The pressure is usually on his supports to make him work.
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-20 20:13:00
April 20 2015 18:21 GMT
#45
In terms of skill shots, that's true Sweeping Strikes barely counts, so it's relatively easy to land what you want.

There are mechanical points to not mess up though. Overusing skills will *lower* your dps and screw up your body blocking / positioning, which can be the difference between getting a kill and overextending and dying yourself. Then there's Evasion timings, but that starts to get into what really makes Illidan hard:

I would argue that he requires some of the best decision making to play right. He's relatively squishy and his kit really forces you to get in close (I would argue even more so than most Melee Assassins). It's absolutely critical to know when to dive and when to chase fleeing units. As said, without a good support you will die, so you *have* to know that you'll at least get the kill.

Edit: Just watched Cal Berkley - Kansas State in Heroes of the Dorm and Fan really put on an Illidan clinic. In the final highlight he dives in without hesitation and half way through the fight is on the backline waiting to heal up. He doesn't just stay there to die - really great discipline / decision making. Of course they outmatches their opponents... but still fun to watch.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-20 21:49:48
April 20 2015 21:47 GMT
#46
Really need to take the opportunity to play Illidan ... I need to learn when you can hit him with what. It is really unintuitive for me.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-20 21:55:08
April 20 2015 21:54 GMT
#47
What a boring hero selection. I need free to play vikings
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Thezzy
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands2117 Posts
April 21 2015 07:52 GMT
#48
Well that means free Illidan and Kerrigan kills this week.
Both heroes absolutely melt if they just jump in, which a lot of them will be doing.
Rarely see Kerrigan in QM outside of my own games when I play her but this week she'll probably be in every game.
As for Illidan, so many players will not be prepared!
Playing Terran is like flying down a MULE drop in a marine suit, firing a Gauss Rifle
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
April 28 2015 03:54 GMT
#49
This week's (April 28, 2015 - May 4, 2015) Free Hero Rotation:

  • Diablo
  • Muradin
  • Raynor
  • Tyrande
  • Zeratul

  • Gazlowe (Available after reaching Player Level 12)
  • Tassadar (Available after reaching Player Level 15)

Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
Solmyr
Profile Joined April 2008
Poland261 Posts
April 28 2015 07:19 GMT
#50
Any builds for Zeratul?I have never played him.
Nizaris
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium2230 Posts
April 28 2015 07:38 GMT
#51
On April 28 2015 16:19 Solmyr wrote:
Any builds for Zeratul?I have never played him.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/heroes/482402-the-big-book-of-zeratul
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44321 Posts
April 28 2015 14:05 GMT
#52
On April 21 2015 00:25 Leolio X wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2015 22:48 Big G wrote:
AKA "who has the worst Illidan loses" week

This. Illidan is such a strong and cool character in the Warcraft universe every newcomer wants to use him, and since he's arguably the most difficult assassin to handle, it never ends up well.


Yep, I played with him for a few games and I felt absolutely retarded playing as him >.< I guess it didn't help that I wasn't playing with friends/ other people who knew how to play as a team.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Immersion_
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom794 Posts
April 28 2015 18:47 GMT
#53
Woop can try Gazlowe and get to 5 on him.
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kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-28 19:27:15
April 28 2015 19:24 GMT
#54
On April 29 2015 03:47 Immersion_ wrote:
Woop can try Gazlowe and get to 5 on him.


Gazlowe is really fun to play! I asked about him a few weeks ago when he was free and got a really good description/explanation of how to utilize him. I can look it up.

Edit: Here it is: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/heroes/480786-simple-questions-simple-answers?page=3#42
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44321 Posts
April 28 2015 20:20 GMT
#55
On April 29 2015 03:47 Immersion_ wrote:
Woop can try Gazlowe and get to 5 on him.


I really like playing with him Funny as hell too ^^
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
May 04 2015 20:19 GMT
#56
This week's (May 5, 2015 - May 12, 2015) Free Hero Rotation:

  • Malfurion
  • Valla
  • Tyrael
  • Nova
  • Rehgar

  • Chen (Available after reaching Player Level 12)
  • Sylvanas (Available after reaching Player Level 15)
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Hryul
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Austria2609 Posts
May 04 2015 22:22 GMT
#57
again nova and free sylvanas. great, now we all can be imba!

a bit confused about TLV. are they the new murky who never get into the free rot?
Countdown to victory: 1 200!
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4231 Posts
May 04 2015 22:46 GMT
#58
I'm sad I can't play this week. Nova, Valla and Sylvanas would be a blast. Plus Rehgar is always fun to play with and balance teams out.
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
4tre55
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany330 Posts
May 05 2015 00:04 GMT
#59
Good thing i didn't buy sylvanas yet, now i can actually try her in a real game.
Solid Jake
Profile Joined November 2010
United States77 Posts
May 05 2015 01:18 GMT
#60
oh gahhhd, Nova free week. Going on vacation brb
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
May 05 2015 02:12 GMT
#61
Sylvanas!!!

It'll be my first chance to play her!
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
May 05 2015 03:19 GMT
#62
YUS! I can play Nova on my alt!
serum321
Profile Joined January 2012
United States606 Posts
May 05 2015 14:38 GMT
#63
On May 05 2015 07:22 Hryul wrote:
again nova and free sylvanas. great, now we all can be imba!

a bit confused about TLV. are they the new murky who never get into the free rot?

Yeah, weird sylvanas would get put into free rotation before tlv. Also abathur has only been in free rotation I think once since the wipe and that free week was like 5 months ago.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44321 Posts
May 05 2015 15:05 GMT
#64
On May 05 2015 11:12 kingjames01 wrote:
Sylvanas!!!

It'll be my first chance to play her!


Love her
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
May 07 2015 18:07 GMT
#65
On May 05 2015 11:12 kingjames01 wrote:
Sylvanas!!!

It'll be my first chance to play her!


Ditto, she is as fun as advertised. Taking some getting use do since she's paper thin and her escape is really slow so you have to use it predictively which is hard with how little hp she has.

But offensively she's very fun, Wailing Arrow has so many uses and is surprisingly easy to time. Really fun to play.

Also Chen players have gotten really good or something, because I keep seeing immortal Chens. First match last night was Cursed Hallow with 2 Chens, do you know how long the cursed tribute fight took? Let's just say I was able to use multiple heroics, pretty insane.
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
May 07 2015 20:37 GMT
#66
On May 06 2015 00:05 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2015 11:12 kingjames01 wrote:
Sylvanas!!!

It'll be my first chance to play her!


Love her


my brother was annoyed when i played her the first times cause i was laughing so hard about how op she is.

well they dont wanna nerf her apparently so once patch is out most likely ill spent some of the saved up gold on her.
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
May 07 2015 21:54 GMT
#67
Having a free Sylvanas is great so not every Sylvanas in ladder is OP now.
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
May 12 2015 00:11 GMT
#68
This week's (May 12, 2015 - May 18, 2015) Free Hero Rotation:

  • E.T.C.
  • Jaina
  • Li Li
  • Sonya
  • Uther

  • Sgt. Hammer (Available after reaching Player Level 12)
  • Thrall (Available after reaching Player Level 15)
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-12 12:26:43
May 12 2015 11:15 GMT
#69
its Muradin owns free rotation week ! (unless they miss their hammer all the time like i do >.> )
Immersion_
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom794 Posts
May 12 2015 19:49 GMT
#70
Cool week not tried Thrall yet and need to tryout the new Sonya!
http://www.twitch.tv/sybar1te Sybarite#2581 - add me for Heroes games. .Play Hots and Overwatch currently. Feel free to add.
Big G
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy835 Posts
May 18 2015 16:49 GMT
#71
Week of Tuesday, May 19, 2015:

Raynor
Muradin
Anub'arak
Brightwing
Kerrigan
Nazeebo (Available after you reach player level 12)
Lost Vikings (Available after you reach player level 15)




Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
May 18 2015 17:14 GMT
#72
On May 19 2015 01:49 Big G wrote:
Week of Tuesday, May 19, 2015:

Raynor
Muradin
Anub'arak
Brightwing
Kerrigan
Nazeebo (Available after you reach player level 12)
Lost Vikings (Available after you reach player level 15)






Fuck the God Damn Lost Vikings.

This week is going to be so miserable.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
Darthsanta13
Profile Joined July 2011
United States564 Posts
May 18 2015 17:48 GMT
#73
heh, I guess for my own sake I'll just play Lost Vikings every game this week.

Side note, but I would've expected a much different rotation for the first week of open beta. More iconic/easy to grasp heroes. TLV and Brightwing stick out like a sore thumb in this regard.
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
May 18 2015 20:30 GMT
#74
I actually think the rotation is honestly random. In any case I think hey have enough iconic heroes that any rotation was going to appeal to open beta players (Raynor, Kerrigan for starcraft enthusiasts, Anub and Muradin for the WoW / WC3 fans, etc).
MarlieChurphy
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States2063 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-19 15:20:23
May 19 2015 15:02 GMT
#75
On May 19 2015 02:14 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2015 01:49 Big G wrote:
Week of Tuesday, May 19, 2015:

Raynor
Muradin
Anub'arak
Brightwing
Kerrigan
Nazeebo (Available after you reach player level 12)
Lost Vikings (Available after you reach player level 15)






Fuck the God Damn Lost Vikings.

This week is going to be so miserable.



Just pick zeratul and nova. Ez wins.

FREE ABAUTHUR

http://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/36hykd/abathur_hasnt_been_free_since_november/




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Big G
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy835 Posts
May 20 2015 00:40 GMT
#76
Well on my first quick match ever with the Vikings I lived the dream of taking both shrines and the DK at the same time. Feels good man.

xuanzue
Profile Joined October 2010
Colombia1747 Posts
May 20 2015 01:49 GMT
#77
I just went for the AA build with "play again" and every team fight was easy after lvl 20.

but never figured how to solo any boss.
Dominions 4: "Thrones of Ascension".
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-20 03:30:53
May 20 2015 03:21 GMT
#78
meh Nova Zera ... if they don't change the mounted cloak back I will have to remove the darkness shaders, always miss them approaching when they are mounted.
I am to scared to mess up horribly with Vikings. Like the one viking that left the game after 7 minutes, because he couldn't handle splitting them. My team gave him horrible advices though.

I would pick Zagara currently though, Endless creep preventing 70% of idiot deaths and Mutas love Vikings for dinner. Funny thing 3 times cursed and everytime one opponent was sitting in the bushes that you pass while lane switching top/mid.
They were really surprised that roaches landed on their head and decided to engage a Zagara 1v1 on level 1. So be aware people know where you want to place your Tumors.
Also no risk of losing your stacks and getting overrun in a few minutes in the lategame.
nunnner
Profile Joined March 2013
Canada26 Posts
May 20 2015 15:19 GMT
#79
BW is a ton of fun, finally got to play her this week. LTV are really tough. Played 1 game with them and the play style was so different.
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
May 20 2015 18:43 GMT
#80
On May 21 2015 00:19 nunnner wrote:
BW is a ton of fun, finally got to play her this week. LTV are really tough. Played 1 game with them and the play style was so different.


I played with them and at one point had 10k experience contribution with the next highest at 5k. They did a ton of work too with jump/z to surround then spin to win while the team focused down the trapped hero. That was satisfying, almost like playing WC3 again.

On the other hand the periods where I was split soaking was miserable... if I wanted to play SC2, I would... I just want to focus on microing a single guy for all I can rather than constantly toggling hot keys. Didn't help that I had input lag changing between vikings (probably my system, but who knows).

Overall, once I grouped up and had Long Boat Raid, man they were beastly.

Also, Norse Force comes so late in the game that I kept forgetting to use it lol.

I had fun playing them, but I think only once. Thank god I'm talent unlocked cuz I can't imagine trying them talent gated.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44321 Posts
May 20 2015 22:16 GMT
#81
On May 20 2015 09:40 Big G wrote:
Well on my first quick match ever with the Vikings I lived the dream of taking both shrines and the DK at the same time. Feels good man.



Same here :D
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Donger
Profile Joined October 2009
United States147 Posts
May 25 2015 06:26 GMT
#82
On May 21 2015 03:43 Wuster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2015 00:19 nunnner wrote:
BW is a ton of fun, finally got to play her this week. LTV are really tough. Played 1 game with them and the play style was so different.


I played with them and at one point had 10k experience contribution with the next highest at 5k. They did a ton of work too with jump/z to surround then spin to win while the team focused down the trapped hero. That was satisfying, almost like playing WC3 again.

On the other hand the periods where I was split soaking was miserable... if I wanted to play SC2, I would... I just want to focus on microing a single guy for all I can rather than constantly toggling hot keys. Didn't help that I had input lag changing between vikings (probably my system, but who knows).

Overall, once I grouped up and had Long Boat Raid, man they were beastly.

Also, Norse Force comes so late in the game that I kept forgetting to use it lol.

I had fun playing them, but I think only once. Thank god I'm talent unlocked cuz I can't imagine trying them talent gated.


I have this same problem! I posted twice on the Battle.net forums asking them about it, but I am either posting it wrong or they are deleting my posts because I can never find it. It's frustrating.
Big G
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy835 Posts
May 25 2015 10:47 GMT
#83
Free hero rotation for the week of Tuesday, May 26th 2015:

Malfurion
Valla
Stitches
Arthas
Tyrande
Zagara (lvl12)
Illidan (lvl15)



Thezzy
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands2117 Posts
May 25 2015 11:36 GMT
#84
Oh boy free Illidan week.
They will not be prepared.
Playing Terran is like flying down a MULE drop in a marine suit, firing a Gauss Rifle
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
May 25 2015 18:10 GMT
#85
On May 25 2015 20:36 Thezzy wrote:
Oh boy free Illidan week.
They will not be prepared.


During ALpha someone told me to beware Tyrael and Illidan free weeks after the game opens up, the newbs to farm!
Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
May 25 2015 18:47 GMT
#86
Get ready for lots of missed Hooks and Lunar Flares too. If Stitches or Tyrande can't hit those then they are mostly worthless.
Writer
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
May 25 2015 21:46 GMT
#87
3 really hard to play right chars and Zagara the newb shredder, outsch. But I am looking at the bright side, everyone will think I am just a free week bad Tyrande, not a bad in general Tyrande !
Kupo
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden151 Posts
May 26 2015 08:27 GMT
#88
I thought nothing could be worse than TLV week, but it's not so fun to have a Tyrande that only uses her heals on herself as your support while the opponents have a Brightwing.
Darthsanta13
Profile Joined July 2011
United States564 Posts
May 26 2015 12:53 GMT
#89
Yeah I feel that Tyrande and Tassadar are both going to do much more poorly in QM now that it's changed such that support teams always play against support teams. They just don't do enough healing (I feel) to keep up with the other more dedicated healers.
JCoto
Profile Joined October 2014
Spain574 Posts
May 26 2015 16:39 GMT
#90
Quite weird to see Malfurion this week, I thought that the starter pack trio would be on rotation for launch day week.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
May 26 2015 17:02 GMT
#91
Don't worry they are aware that Tyrande and Tass can't compete with healers, as well as specialist problems. Atleast they wanted to change roles a bit and make it easier for the matchmaking. But guess they won't have it out for release ?
Thezzy
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands2117 Posts
May 26 2015 18:04 GMT
#92
My main gripe with many of the newbie supports is complete lack of healing.
I've had cases where we had a Malfurion all game long that healed for like 6k total when the game ended.
Only healed himself even when Diablo was dying next to him.

They also have a tendency (especially Tyrande) to overestimate their position and get killed.
Supports need to stay back or they'll get focused and die. Many of them that aren't Tassadar can be ganked quite easily if the enemy team knows what they're doing. Tyrande, Malfurion and Uther can all die to a gank without much chance for survival.

And it stings when your team overall is doing well, but you're stuck with a Tyrande that isn't healing anything and has more deaths than kills to her name.
Playing Terran is like flying down a MULE drop in a marine suit, firing a Gauss Rifle
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
May 26 2015 18:10 GMT
#93
So disheartening to have lost that game because of feeders, so I feel your pain.

I had a game last night where our Sylvanas was bragging about her hero damage (40k!) while glossing over that she by far the most deaths (11 out of 27, next up was a Nova that quietly died 8 times by over-relying on cloak). She didn't even finish with top takedowns cuz she was always dead!
FT.aCt)Sony
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1047 Posts
May 26 2015 18:22 GMT
#94
On May 27 2015 03:10 Wuster wrote:
So disheartening to have lost that game because of feeders, so I feel your pain.

I had a game last night where our Sylvanas was bragging about her hero damage (40k!) while glossing over that she by far the most deaths (11 out of 27, next up was a Nova that quietly died 8 times by over-relying on cloak). She didn't even finish with top takedowns cuz she was always dead!


When I play Sylvannas, I get upwards to 150k hero dmg and 80-120k siege damage. 40k is chump change.
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
May 26 2015 18:28 GMT
#95
Exactly, that guy was gloating over nothing. Didn't help that the map was Sky Temple and he started the game by dying to creeps (cuz he was going to push the hell out of bot lane...) This probably belongs more int he QQ thread, so I'll stop venting.

So back on topic, now that we have easy to mess up heroes on rotation this week any of you guys going to mess around with random builds? I'm planning to try an AA / Lifesteal Illidan build, will probably fail horribly but could scale well on the right map.
Thezzy
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands2117 Posts
May 26 2015 19:01 GMT
#96
I suppose I could try the AA build on Kerrigan.
Doubt I'll take Focused Attack over Envenom, since the total damage will simply be lower.
So that means:

Marksman on 1
Envenom on 4
Searing on 7
Maelstrom on 10 (Ultra is meh)
Double Strike on 13 I guess...I don't really get this talent. Kerrigan blows all her abilities at once except Ravage so you only get one Basic Attack that gets amplified for 50% dmg. Assuming say 40 marksman stacks and Nexus Blades, she does around 360 damage per hit. Double Strike would only add about 180+ to that. Not a lot. And I have to give up Sprint for it.
Blood for Blood on 16, although with an AA build the double shielding would be decent, but Blood for Blood is just to good.
Nexus Blades on 20

Does mean no Blink and no Adaptation though.
Not much else to really go for on Kerrigan besides the standard build.

I might stick with Tyrande if I want an AA build now that I think of it.
Hers is just nasty with the Hunter's Mark attack speed talent + Searing Arrows + Nexus Frenzy.
And you can still provide a bit of healing and a stun.

As for other builds, I've been wondering if a Rewind build on Anub'Arak could work instead of beetle build and fully focusing on his main talents instead. So that means the Impale talents, Underking, Epicenter and stuff like that.
I wonder if double Epicenter could cause some damage compared to the beetles.
Might still go Regen master though, since I don't really see what is good about having 25% more length on Impale.
You're rarely going to kill someone with it, and if you nab someone at the very end of that additional 25%, they'll still get away due to the distance. The length isn't really an issue for me.
Playing Terran is like flying down a MULE drop in a marine suit, firing a Gauss Rifle
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
May 26 2015 19:11 GMT
#97
On May 27 2015 03:22 FT.aCt)Sony wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2015 03:10 Wuster wrote:
So disheartening to have lost that game because of feeders, so I feel your pain.

I had a game last night where our Sylvanas was bragging about her hero damage (40k!) while glossing over that she by far the most deaths (11 out of 27, next up was a Nova that quietly died 8 times by over-relying on cloak). She didn't even finish with top takedowns cuz she was always dead!


When I play Sylvannas, I get upwards to 150k hero dmg and 80-120k siege damage. 40k is chump change.

Sylvanas's hero damage stats are always deceptively high. Because of her dagger, she shits out a ton of largely meaningless damage. When you really get down to it, however, she just doesn't hit that hard (not that she should). Compare her damage output to someone like Zeratul. He'll typically have half the hero damage that she does, but his translates far more efficiently into kills than hers.
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
May 26 2015 19:27 GMT
#98
All the numbers are pretty meaningless. If someone is using them as either an attack or defense that player is probably the actual problem with the team.
Wat
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
May 26 2015 19:39 GMT
#99
On May 27 2015 04:27 Tenks wrote:
All the numbers are pretty meaningless. If someone is using them as either an attack or defense that player is probably the actual problem with the team.

The only ones that really matter are takedowns and deaths. If you're running a high T/D ratio, you're almost certainly playing well.
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
May 26 2015 19:45 GMT
#100
On May 27 2015 04:39 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2015 04:27 Tenks wrote:
All the numbers are pretty meaningless. If someone is using them as either an attack or defense that player is probably the actual problem with the team.

The only ones that really matter are takedowns and deaths. If you're running a high T/D ratio, you're almost certainly playing well.


Yes and sometimes the ratio isn't quite as important as winning the game. If you're the hard initiate chances are you will probably die most team fights assuming the other team is well coordinated. But as long as you set up the fight to lead your team into an advantageous spot your life was well spent.

Usually a few signs of incompetence is low kills compared to the entire team (not participating in fights) or an abnormally high ratio (but that could also be because your team is simply losing.) I can't count the number of Zags who are AFK split pushing the entire game just sicking hydras on heroes that come near and then go "Not my fault! Look at my hero damage!" to justify having to 4v5 all game.
Wat
Yoav
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1874 Posts
May 26 2015 21:00 GMT
#101
On May 27 2015 04:39 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2015 04:27 Tenks wrote:
All the numbers are pretty meaningless. If someone is using them as either an attack or defense that player is probably the actual problem with the team.

The only ones that really matter are takedowns and deaths. If you're running a high T/D ratio, you're almost certainly playing well.


I mean, I think you're not wrong, but there are absolutely characters who excel particularly at this... like, say, Zeratul. This characteristic is part of why he can carry games so well, but it does mean his T/D is generally extra high.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
May 26 2015 21:12 GMT
#102
On May 27 2015 06:00 Yoav wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2015 04:39 xDaunt wrote:
On May 27 2015 04:27 Tenks wrote:
All the numbers are pretty meaningless. If someone is using them as either an attack or defense that player is probably the actual problem with the team.

The only ones that really matter are takedowns and deaths. If you're running a high T/D ratio, you're almost certainly playing well.


I mean, I think you're not wrong, but there are absolutely characters who excel particularly at this... like, say, Zeratul. This characteristic is part of why he can carry games so well, but it does mean his T/D is generally extra high.

Having a high T/D ratio is more of a function of not dying than being involved in a lot of takedowns. Again, my general thought on death is that every death is preventable to one degree or another. Even if I am playing someone who is not Zeratul, I pride myself on generally having the lowest number of deaths on the team.
[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
May 26 2015 21:28 GMT
#103
On May 27 2015 06:12 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2015 06:00 Yoav wrote:
On May 27 2015 04:39 xDaunt wrote:
On May 27 2015 04:27 Tenks wrote:
All the numbers are pretty meaningless. If someone is using them as either an attack or defense that player is probably the actual problem with the team.

The only ones that really matter are takedowns and deaths. If you're running a high T/D ratio, you're almost certainly playing well.


I mean, I think you're not wrong, but there are absolutely characters who excel particularly at this... like, say, Zeratul. This characteristic is part of why he can carry games so well, but it does mean his T/D is generally extra high.

Having a high T/D ratio is more of a function of not dying than being involved in a lot of takedowns. Again, my general thought on death is that every death is preventable to one degree or another. Even if I am playing someone who is not Zeratul, I pride myself on generally having the lowest number of deaths on the team.


What if you run away from teamfights leaving your friends to die? Then you'll also have the lowest death count.
WriterTeamLiquid Staff writer since 2014 @Mortal_Phantom
Yoav
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1874 Posts
May 26 2015 21:58 GMT
#104
On May 27 2015 06:12 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2015 06:00 Yoav wrote:
On May 27 2015 04:39 xDaunt wrote:
On May 27 2015 04:27 Tenks wrote:
All the numbers are pretty meaningless. If someone is using them as either an attack or defense that player is probably the actual problem with the team.

The only ones that really matter are takedowns and deaths. If you're running a high T/D ratio, you're almost certainly playing well.


I mean, I think you're not wrong, but there are absolutely characters who excel particularly at this... like, say, Zeratul. This characteristic is part of why he can carry games so well, but it does mean his T/D is generally extra high.

Having a high T/D ratio is more of a function of not dying than being involved in a lot of takedowns. Again, my general thought on death is that every death is preventable to one degree or another. Even if I am playing someone who is not Zeratul, I pride myself on generally having the lowest number of deaths on the team.


I dig. By the way, loved your HL guide.
Thezzy
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands2117 Posts
May 26 2015 21:59 GMT
#105
On May 27 2015 06:28 [Phantom] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2015 06:12 xDaunt wrote:
On May 27 2015 06:00 Yoav wrote:
On May 27 2015 04:39 xDaunt wrote:
On May 27 2015 04:27 Tenks wrote:
All the numbers are pretty meaningless. If someone is using them as either an attack or defense that player is probably the actual problem with the team.

The only ones that really matter are takedowns and deaths. If you're running a high T/D ratio, you're almost certainly playing well.


I mean, I think you're not wrong, but there are absolutely characters who excel particularly at this... like, say, Zeratul. This characteristic is part of why he can carry games so well, but it does mean his T/D is generally extra high.

Having a high T/D ratio is more of a function of not dying than being involved in a lot of takedowns. Again, my general thought on death is that every death is preventable to one degree or another. Even if I am playing someone who is not Zeratul, I pride myself on generally having the lowest number of deaths on the team.


What if you run away from teamfights leaving your friends to die? Then you'll also have the lowest death count.


You shouldn't be getting any kills or hero damage if that is the case.
If the whole was around 25-30 kills and you're at 10-15, you weren't there half the time.

Note that seeing a bad situation for what it is and not dying needlessly when your team is already half gone isn't a bad thing.
I'll always try and help the team as much as possible, but sometimes retreat really is the only option.
And that can sometimes mean falling back before the fight is completely over.
Playing Terran is like flying down a MULE drop in a marine suit, firing a Gauss Rifle
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
May 28 2015 18:44 GMT
#106
On May 27 2015 03:28 Wuster wrote:
Exactly, that guy was gloating over nothing. Didn't help that the map was Sky Temple and he started the game by dying to creeps (cuz he was going to push the hell out of bot lane...) This probably belongs more int he QQ thread, so I'll stop venting.

So back on topic, now that we have easy to mess up heroes on rotation this week any of you guys going to mess around with random builds? I'm planning to try an AA / Lifesteal Illidan build, will probably fail horribly but could scale well on the right map.


Well I did it, was playing on Garden of Terror and went Seasoned Marksmen + Thirsting Blade instead of the normal Shadow Shield + Immolation.

Since I was going full yolo I took Hunt at 10 too instead of Meta too. Briefly considered Thrill of Battle to pop more Evasions over First Aid, but I just couldn't bring myself to do it.

Was very weak early on, no Immo meant I couldn't clear waves for stacks that well either, but by the time I picked up Giant Killer at 13 I had 30 bonus damage and felt like a powerhouse. Ended the game taking Nexus Blades and 40+ bonus damage.

I could literally solo garden terrors and finish with 100% hp. I was healing 113hp / hit on core (so much more on heroes, especially after a Sweeping Strike).

Wasn't the total disaster I feared, seems like it might have potential, if I do it again, will be going Meta over Hunt though.
Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
June 03 2015 23:28 GMT
#107
Rotation for the week of June 2nd to June 8th

Li Li
E.T.C.
Falstad
Diablo
Tychus
Azmodan (12)
Tassadar (15)
Writer
Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
June 08 2015 16:52 GMT
#108
Week of Tuesday, June 9, 2015:

Raynor
Muradin
Rehgar
Tyrael
Jaina
Uther (Available after you reach player level 12)
Sylvanas (Available after you reach player level 15)
Writer
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
June 09 2015 22:11 GMT
#109
I really like Sylvanas and Jaina... but I feel really held back in Hero League without any support to fall back on... should I spend this week learning how to play Uther / Rehgar finally?
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44321 Posts
June 10 2015 00:31 GMT
#110
On June 10 2015 07:11 Wuster wrote:
I really like Sylvanas and Jaina... but I feel really held back in Hero League without any support to fall back on... should I spend this week learning how to play Uther / Rehgar finally?


It's never a bad time to learn a support, just in case you need to fill the spot... but learn Brightwing! She's so fun to play with and arguably the best support right now
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
wongfeihung
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States763 Posts
June 15 2015 00:47 GMT
#111
Played Sylvanas for the first time yesterday and I gotta say she is so incredibly fun to play.
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
June 15 2015 12:57 GMT
#112
On June 15 2015 09:47 wongfeihung wrote:
Played Sylvanas for the first time yesterday and I gotta say she is so incredibly broken as hell.


FTFY

Sylvanas is the reason HL needs bans. If a team drafts Sylv and Anub, it's pretty much instant win.
shaGuar :: elemeNt :: XeqtR :: naikon :: method
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44321 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-15 13:06:47
June 15 2015 13:05 GMT
#113
On June 15 2015 21:57 Crownlol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2015 09:47 wongfeihung wrote:
Played Sylvanas for the first time yesterday and I gotta say she is so incredibly broken as hell.


FTFY

Sylvanas is the reason HL needs bans. If a team drafts Sylv and Anub, it's pretty much instant win.


I agree with the idea of each team banning 1 hero, but who would be in charge of picking that ban? Maybe the last player on each team or some voting thing?

Also, why is Anub + Sylv auto-win? Do they have some sort of godly combo? Sure he got buffed and he's very good, but Anub isn't even the best warrior, let alone in the top three of all heroes...
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
June 15 2015 13:12 GMT
#114
anub can push really well, and is a tank. Sylvanas can push really well and is an assassin disguised as a specialist. So they bring pushing power to the team while fullfilling other roles. So you could say they are just to good at to much. There are still heroes that counter it though. So no autowin, but can lead to really tough situations if you don't play save.
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
June 15 2015 13:39 GMT
#115
If HL had bans I'd ban Illidan 100%. Either the other team gets an Illidan and he's sponsored by Monster, Red Bull and HyperX all at the same time or my team picks Illidan and he's sponsored by Retards Anonymous.
Wat
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44321 Posts
June 15 2015 13:56 GMT
#116
On June 15 2015 22:12 FeyFey wrote:
anub can push really well, and is a tank. Sylvanas can push really well and is an assassin disguised as a specialist. So they bring pushing power to the team while fullfilling other roles. So you could say they are just to good at to much. There are still heroes that counter it though. So no autowin, but can lead to really tough situations if you don't play save.


Ah gotcha. I don't have much experience with Anub but I do like pushing lanes... and I have a "3 games with Warrior" daily quest to fill
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
June 15 2015 15:57 GMT
#117
On June 15 2015 22:56 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2015 22:12 FeyFey wrote:
anub can push really well, and is a tank. Sylvanas can push really well and is an assassin disguised as a specialist. So they bring pushing power to the team while fullfilling other roles. So you could say they are just to good at to much. There are still heroes that counter it though. So no autowin, but can lead to really tough situations if you don't play save.


Ah gotcha. I don't have much experience with Anub but I do like pushing lanes... and I have a "3 games with Warrior" daily quest to fill


Anub is a sneaky good pusher, on Haunted Mines with a little help staying near their gate, his beetles can drain the ammo before mines opens, as you can imagine that makes the first golem much stronger.
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
June 15 2015 17:23 GMT
#118
On June 10 2015 09:31 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2015 07:11 Wuster wrote:
I really like Sylvanas and Jaina... but I feel really held back in Hero League without any support to fall back on... should I spend this week learning how to play Uther / Rehgar finally?


It's never a bad time to learn a support, just in case you need to fill the spot... but learn Brightwing! She's so fun to play with and arguably the best support right now

BW is really fun to play and at the moment maybe my favorite hero.
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
June 15 2015 17:51 GMT
#119
The word on the street from some hip cats is that BW may lose Gust of Healing next patch
Wat
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
June 15 2015 18:19 GMT
#120
On June 16 2015 02:51 Tenks wrote:
The word on the street from some hip cats is that BW may lose Gust of Healing next patch


I don't understand why, she hardly seems OP unless you *only* look at the stat screen. Wouldn't it be better to fix her double self-healing bug first then see if her new squishier-ness balances whatever concerns they have?
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
June 15 2015 18:34 GMT
#121
I think the issue is they want BW to be tops in the consistant team healing over time category but Gust kind of goes against that design. Right now you Z in and Gust and the fight is generally won or lost at that moment. It is a very strong ability. It really fills in her glaring weakness of lacking burst heal.
Wat
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4231 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-15 21:09:25
June 15 2015 21:03 GMT
#122
ROFL am I seeing this right? Is KT free this week? (starting on the 16th)

Cool for such a "new" hero to be on the rotation so fast. Yet another week without aba thou is one of the few heroes I have yet to test.
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
June 15 2015 21:40 GMT
#123
Nice, I can't wait to test KT out.

On June 16 2015 03:34 Tenks wrote:
I think the issue is they want BW to be tops in the consistant team healing over time category but Gust kind of goes against that design. Right now you Z in and Gust and the fight is generally won or lost at that moment. It is a very strong ability. It really fills in her glaring weakness of lacking burst heal.


If this is really their reasoning, then I would hope they talk to the WoW guys first to see how well sub-specializing roles worked for them (ie back in the day when Pallies and Disc Priests were only tank-healers, and if you only had Resto Druids you couldn't keep a tank alive).
Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
June 15 2015 21:43 GMT
#124
June 16 - 22 Weekly Free Hero Rotation:

Malfurion
Valla
Chen
Brightwing
Kerrigan

Sgt. Hammer (Available after you reach player level 12)
Kael'thas (Available after you reach player level 15)
Writer
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4231 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-15 21:47:44
June 15 2015 21:45 GMT
#125
On June 16 2015 06:40 Wuster wrote:
Nice, I can't wait to test KT out.


Well I saw it just before I closed my pc, on the desktop app but so far no update on the blizz forums o.O

Edit: There it is, glad I saw it right. So valla, kerrigan and some KT this week for me :D oh damn I have to work late this week T_T
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
June 15 2015 22:19 GMT
#126
WOOO, KT!! My first chance to try him out!
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-15 22:36:06
June 15 2015 22:34 GMT
#127
I am happy that I'll be able to play Kerrigan again. Love her, and she was on my next-to-buy list, but then I saw Butcher and figured it out that he is a must before her. And yeah, trying out Kael'Thas for the first time will be fun.

On June 16 2015 06:03 KobraKay wrote:
ROFL am I seeing this right? Is KT free this week? (starting on the 16th)

Cool for such a "new" hero to be on the rotation so fast. Yet another week without aba thou is one of the few heroes I have yet to test.

I guess you mean Abathur? Yeah I haven't played him yet. These "different" specialists like Abathur, Murky and Vikings are quite rare.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44321 Posts
June 16 2015 00:18 GMT
#128
On June 16 2015 06:03 KobraKay wrote:
ROFL am I seeing this right? Is KT free this week? (starting on the 16th)

Cool for such a "new" hero to be on the rotation so fast. Yet another week without aba thou is one of the few heroes I have yet to test.


Abathur is really fun, as is KT
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
June 16 2015 10:25 GMT
#129
On June 16 2015 09:18 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2015 06:03 KobraKay wrote:
ROFL am I seeing this right? Is KT free this week? (starting on the 16th)

Cool for such a "new" hero to be on the rotation so fast. Yet another week without aba thou is one of the few heroes I have yet to test.


Abathur is really fun, as is KT


I got Ab to level 10 a few days after buying him. Unfortunate I can't often make him work in ranked.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44321 Posts
June 16 2015 12:52 GMT
#130
On June 16 2015 19:25 Roe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2015 09:18 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On June 16 2015 06:03 KobraKay wrote:
ROFL am I seeing this right? Is KT free this week? (starting on the 16th)

Cool for such a "new" hero to be on the rotation so fast. Yet another week without aba thou is one of the few heroes I have yet to test.


Abathur is really fun, as is KT


I got Ab to level 10 a few days after buying him. Unfortunate I can't often make him work in ranked.


Yeah I find him particularly amusing to play as/ with in QM if you get a decent team, since some opponents still don't even recognize just how much he can buff a hero. They dive in and get wrecked lol.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
June 16 2015 13:38 GMT
#131
On June 16 2015 21:52 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2015 19:25 Roe wrote:
On June 16 2015 09:18 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On June 16 2015 06:03 KobraKay wrote:
ROFL am I seeing this right? Is KT free this week? (starting on the 16th)

Cool for such a "new" hero to be on the rotation so fast. Yet another week without aba thou is one of the few heroes I have yet to test.


Abathur is really fun, as is KT


I got Ab to level 10 a few days after buying him. Unfortunate I can't often make him work in ranked.


Yeah I find him particularly amusing to play as/ with in QM if you get a decent team, since some opponents still don't even recognize just how much he can buff a hero. They dive in and get wrecked lol.


My team runs a Thrillidan setup that looks like this:


Illidan
Abathur
Rehgar
ETC
Jaina/Malf/Thrall


The premise of the comp is to turn Illidan into a raidboss and to completely steamroll every single teamfight with Lightning Shield + Hat + ETC buff. The massive buffs to his attack speed and basic attack power synergize perfectly with his auto attack build + demon form ult. When we engage in a teamfight, it's simply "buff Illidan, win game" while he twoshots each member of the opposing team. It's freaking *amazing* to watch whole teams get melted by one MegaIllidan during MoshPit + Ring of Frost.
shaGuar :: elemeNt :: XeqtR :: naikon :: method
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44321 Posts
June 16 2015 15:41 GMT
#132
On June 16 2015 22:38 Crownlol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2015 21:52 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On June 16 2015 19:25 Roe wrote:
On June 16 2015 09:18 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On June 16 2015 06:03 KobraKay wrote:
ROFL am I seeing this right? Is KT free this week? (starting on the 16th)

Cool for such a "new" hero to be on the rotation so fast. Yet another week without aba thou is one of the few heroes I have yet to test.


Abathur is really fun, as is KT


I got Ab to level 10 a few days after buying him. Unfortunate I can't often make him work in ranked.


Yeah I find him particularly amusing to play as/ with in QM if you get a decent team, since some opponents still don't even recognize just how much he can buff a hero. They dive in and get wrecked lol.


My team runs a Thrillidan setup that looks like this:


Illidan
Abathur
Rehgar
ETC
Jaina/Malf/Thrall


The premise of the comp is to turn Illidan into a raidboss and to completely steamroll every single teamfight with Lightning Shield + Hat + ETC buff. The massive buffs to his attack speed and basic attack power synergize perfectly with his auto attack build + demon form ult. When we engage in a teamfight, it's simply "buff Illidan, win game" while he twoshots each member of the opposing team. It's freaking *amazing* to watch whole teams get melted by one MegaIllidan during MoshPit + Ring of Frost.


Hahahaha that's awesome! One of the perks of having a team ^^
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
June 16 2015 17:30 GMT
#133
On June 17 2015 00:41 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2015 22:38 Crownlol wrote:
On June 16 2015 21:52 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On June 16 2015 19:25 Roe wrote:
On June 16 2015 09:18 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On June 16 2015 06:03 KobraKay wrote:
ROFL am I seeing this right? Is KT free this week? (starting on the 16th)

Cool for such a "new" hero to be on the rotation so fast. Yet another week without aba thou is one of the few heroes I have yet to test.


Abathur is really fun, as is KT


I got Ab to level 10 a few days after buying him. Unfortunate I can't often make him work in ranked.


Yeah I find him particularly amusing to play as/ with in QM if you get a decent team, since some opponents still don't even recognize just how much he can buff a hero. They dive in and get wrecked lol.


My team runs a Thrillidan setup that looks like this:


Illidan
Abathur
Rehgar
ETC
Jaina/Malf/Thrall


The premise of the comp is to turn Illidan into a raidboss and to completely steamroll every single teamfight with Lightning Shield + Hat + ETC buff. The massive buffs to his attack speed and basic attack power synergize perfectly with his auto attack build + demon form ult. When we engage in a teamfight, it's simply "buff Illidan, win game" while he twoshots each member of the opposing team. It's freaking *amazing* to watch whole teams get melted by one MegaIllidan during MoshPit + Ring of Frost.


Hahahaha that's awesome! One of the perks of having a team ^^


Yeah it's great! We even have had success with it in Hero League. After 10, the opposing team has a very hard time contending objectives on any map that forces teamfighting. The comp is weak to Sylvanas/Azmodan split pushing though - good teams will avoid teamfights if they can.
shaGuar :: elemeNt :: XeqtR :: naikon :: method
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-16 17:37:29
June 16 2015 17:33 GMT
#134
Was playing Hero League most of last week, but I really do enjoy Jaina / Sylv and dont' own them so I went back to QM to play them before they got rotated out.

Man I didn't used to think there was a big difference between HL and QM, but boy did I feel it yesterday. From people throwing the games because someone was mean to them, to multiple rDPS doing less damage than Tyrael (who wasn't even played that well), it was just a disaster on multiple levels. Then when I didn't want to lose I decided to pick an assassin I'm really comfortable with (because I feel dps is easier to carry with than warrior) and I queue straight into Zeratul / Nova / Illidan (who takes Hunt) as Valla.

Makes me have second thoughts about trying out KT this week lol.

Edit: I should note that I only won the two games I chain d/c-ed / had connection problems in too, that's a real confidence boost in my abilities.
FreeZEternal
Profile Joined January 2003
Korea (South)3396 Posts
June 16 2015 18:13 GMT
#135
Tried KT, I prefer Jaina i think. His damage is good and all that but you have to wait until lvl 16 to do some real scary damage.
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
June 16 2015 18:31 GMT
#136
On June 17 2015 02:33 Wuster wrote:
Was playing Hero League most of last week, but I really do enjoy Jaina / Sylv and dont' own them so I went back to QM to play them before they got rotated out.

Man I didn't used to think there was a big difference between HL and QM, but boy did I feel it yesterday. From people throwing the games because someone was mean to them, to multiple rDPS doing less damage than Tyrael (who wasn't even played that well), it was just a disaster on multiple levels. Then when I didn't want to lose I decided to pick an assassin I'm really comfortable with (because I feel dps is easier to carry with than warrior) and I queue straight into Zeratul / Nova / Illidan (who takes Hunt) as Valla.

Makes me have second thoughts about trying out KT this week lol.

Edit: I should note that I only won the two games I chain d/c-ed / had connection problems in too, that's a real confidence boost in my abilities.


QM is like the third circle of hell once you get to higher levels and start playing HL if you have any competitive gaming experience.

QM is honestly entirely unplayable, and I only queue if I'm making a troll team with my teammates (like that Thrillidan build or Paintrain or something) or experimenting with a new hero.

shaGuar :: elemeNt :: XeqtR :: naikon :: method
[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-16 18:50:24
June 16 2015 18:49 GMT
#137
On June 17 2015 02:33 Wuster wrote:
Was playing Hero League most of last week, but I really do enjoy Jaina / Sylv and dont' own them so I went back to QM to play them before they got rotated out.

Man I didn't used to think there was a big difference between HL and QM, but boy did I feel it yesterday. From people throwing the games because someone was mean to them, to multiple rDPS doing less damage than Tyrael (who wasn't even played that well), it was just a disaster on multiple levels. Then when I didn't want to lose I decided to pick an assassin I'm really comfortable with (because I feel dps is easier to carry with than warrior) and I queue straight into Zeratul / Nova / Illidan (who takes Hunt) as Valla.

Makes me have second thoughts about trying out KT this week lol.

Edit: I should note that I only won the two games I chain d/c-ed / had connection problems in too, that's a real confidence boost in my abilities.



That seems like my average Hero League game honestly.

WriterTeamLiquid Staff writer since 2014 @Mortal_Phantom
CrazyHunter
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
United States83 Posts
June 16 2015 19:40 GMT
#138
Hypeeee! Can't wait to try out KT!
The strong live. The weak die
Leolio X
Profile Joined April 2015
France26 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-17 12:35:52
June 17 2015 12:35 GMT
#139
On June 17 2015 03:31 Crownlol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2015 02:33 Wuster wrote:
Was playing Hero League most of last week, but I really do enjoy Jaina / Sylv and dont' own them so I went back to QM to play them before they got rotated out.

Man I didn't used to think there was a big difference between HL and QM, but boy did I feel it yesterday. From people throwing the games because someone was mean to them, to multiple rDPS doing less damage than Tyrael (who wasn't even played that well), it was just a disaster on multiple levels. Then when I didn't want to lose I decided to pick an assassin I'm really comfortable with (because I feel dps is easier to carry with than warrior) and I queue straight into Zeratul / Nova / Illidan (who takes Hunt) as Valla.

Makes me have second thoughts about trying out KT this week lol.

Edit: I should note that I only won the two games I chain d/c-ed / had connection problems in too, that's a real confidence boost in my abilities.


QM is like the third circle of hell once you get to higher levels and start playing HL if you have any competitive gaming experience.

QM is honestly entirely unplayable, and I only queue if I'm making a troll team with my teammates (like that Thrillidan build or Paintrain or something) or experimenting with a new hero.



It's true people play poorly but unless you play warrior, if you play well you really can turn the tide up. I usually make 35 - 1 games in QM with Nova and even with feeders and disrespectful people I don't lose. A good healer can make wonders, and of course a specialist will make tons of damage no matter what.

edit: Also, free Kael, that's great. :-D
Jenia6109
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Russian Federation1612 Posts
June 17 2015 13:40 GMT
#140
Sorry, cant stand to say it:
KT best KT
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Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
June 17 2015 17:41 GMT
#141
On June 17 2015 21:35 Leolio X wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2015 03:31 Crownlol wrote:
On June 17 2015 02:33 Wuster wrote:
Was playing Hero League most of last week, but I really do enjoy Jaina / Sylv and dont' own them so I went back to QM to play them before they got rotated out.

Man I didn't used to think there was a big difference between HL and QM, but boy did I feel it yesterday. From people throwing the games because someone was mean to them, to multiple rDPS doing less damage than Tyrael (who wasn't even played that well), it was just a disaster on multiple levels. Then when I didn't want to lose I decided to pick an assassin I'm really comfortable with (because I feel dps is easier to carry with than warrior) and I queue straight into Zeratul / Nova / Illidan (who takes Hunt) as Valla.

Makes me have second thoughts about trying out KT this week lol.

Edit: I should note that I only won the two games I chain d/c-ed / had connection problems in too, that's a real confidence boost in my abilities.


QM is like the third circle of hell once you get to higher levels and start playing HL if you have any competitive gaming experience.

QM is honestly entirely unplayable, and I only queue if I'm making a troll team with my teammates (like that Thrillidan build or Paintrain or something) or experimenting with a new hero.



It's true people play poorly but unless you play warrior, if you play well you really can turn the tide up. I usually make 35 - 1 games in QM with Nova and even with feeders and disrespectful people I don't lose. A good healer can make wonders, and of course a specialist will make tons of damage no matter what.

edit: Also, free Kael, that's great. :-D


I don't think I ever get QM games where the skill disparity is that massive unless queueing with friends who are new to the game. I did have a QM game where I was I think I was a 24-5 Nova and we lost horribly. Before that I never felt that Nova could carry a team no matter how much she ganked, and that game felt like confirmation to me. But 35-1 is like a score you get playing against bots lol, so in that case I can believe the carry potential.

It's funny, when I started playing Heroes the easiest way to carry was playing a tank well (RIP pre-nerf Arthas and Stiches). Now I would agree that warriors have a really hard time carrying because they just can't output the damage anymore after all the rebalancing. I still love playing them though.

Back to the original topic, KT free week hasn't improved my experience. Just more angry/incompetent players. First game was with a Valla with 0-5 ratio bemoaning that the game was already lost and how sometimes the MM just gives you a lose (Valla with less damage than half the hero damage of the other assassins btw). I was playing at my normal time (after dinner servertime) not in the middle of the night like on Monday, so that blew my original theory that my issues were just from playing too late with a smaller / younger player pool (seriously who else is playing at 3 am pacific?).
Hellonslaught
Profile Joined June 2014
Brazil0 Posts
June 17 2015 19:20 GMT
#142
On June 18 2015 02:41 Wuster wrote:
Just more angry/incompetent players. First game was with a Valla with 0-5 ratio bemoaning that the game was already lost and how sometimes the MM just gives you a lose (Valla with less damage than half the hero damage of the other assassins btw).

I main Vala and i can confidently say that if the team has no idea how to teamwork, 0-5 as Vala with less DPS then support is a normal outcome no matter how good the Vala player is.
Not stating your Vala was competent, but your argument is irrational and very often used by bad players themselves.

You can blame as much as you want or you can make the difference and do everything in your power to prevent her from being killed, but bitching and blaming is easier am i right?
Priest
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
June 17 2015 20:00 GMT
#143
Were you in my game? This is a forum where people talk outside the game. Thanks for making 100 assumptions about what went on. I play a lot of Valla myself and the only time I've been shut down that hard is when I'm the only dps or we have no coordination against a competent dive comp.

If you were in the game then you would have known I was busy teaching someone who asked for help how to play Chen. When my first advice was drink liberally, he would literally stand there and chain drink while a fight was going on, so I had to explain to him that there was more to his rotation and people were just gong to ignore him if he just stood there. But he asked and I tried to help, no hard feelings at all.

The Valla however asked for no help and didn't do anything other than over extend and die to Zeratul 3 times before lvl 4. She wasn't in my lane (nor was she solo-lane to give you an example of how badly she was overextending) or I would have been pinging whenever I saw that blur to help her avoid the ganks. It was a miracle that she only had 5 deaths when they hit lvl 11 (when she made that comment).

Anyways, this is getting offtopic from talking about the free heroes rotation.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
June 17 2015 23:02 GMT
#144
On June 17 2015 21:35 Leolio X wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2015 03:31 Crownlol wrote:
On June 17 2015 02:33 Wuster wrote:
Was playing Hero League most of last week, but I really do enjoy Jaina / Sylv and dont' own them so I went back to QM to play them before they got rotated out.

Man I didn't used to think there was a big difference between HL and QM, but boy did I feel it yesterday. From people throwing the games because someone was mean to them, to multiple rDPS doing less damage than Tyrael (who wasn't even played that well), it was just a disaster on multiple levels. Then when I didn't want to lose I decided to pick an assassin I'm really comfortable with (because I feel dps is easier to carry with than warrior) and I queue straight into Zeratul / Nova / Illidan (who takes Hunt) as Valla.

Makes me have second thoughts about trying out KT this week lol.

Edit: I should note that I only won the two games I chain d/c-ed / had connection problems in too, that's a real confidence boost in my abilities.


QM is like the third circle of hell once you get to higher levels and start playing HL if you have any competitive gaming experience.

QM is honestly entirely unplayable, and I only queue if I'm making a troll team with my teammates (like that Thrillidan build or Paintrain or something) or experimenting with a new hero.



It's true people play poorly but unless you play warrior, if you play well you really can turn the tide up. I usually make 35 - 1 games in QM with Nova and even with feeders and disrespectful people I don't lose. A good healer can make wonders, and of course a specialist will make tons of damage no matter what.

edit: Also, free Kael, that's great. :-D



Don't think its really class related. The important part is that you can make up for the short comings of your team. Thats why I dislike heroes that can't merc in QM. And thats why I love Muradin who can merc, tank, self heal, disrupt channels and deal decent damage.
So basically any hero that works on his own can carry in QM.
METATERREN
Profile Blog Joined June 2015
71 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-18 04:30:48
June 18 2015 04:28 GMT
#145
I took all of the F2P heroes for the week from level1 to level 5.

Chen
Was awful the first time I played him. I couldn't make heads nor tails of how useless he was because there's no reason to attack him, as he is doing no damage if he's spec'd for flying kick.

Turned out I really enjoyed playing him when I built for tank and realized wandering barrel is good fun, and spec'd him for flame breath also with wandering barrel. Great fun to be had on this hero (especialyl due to short cooldowns and flying kick moving you around the field) but lacking effective damage.


Valla
Didn't immediately pwn as I anticipated. Her damage is good. She is squishy. I don't think her shadow beast ult is very good without specific coordination from a CC'r.

Kael Thas
Pretty good damage. It took some getting used to his trait. My favorite part is pyroblasting from behind walls.

Kerrigan
Was terrible trying to build for her basic attack & self shield buffing. She started to make sense when I picked up burst, burst, burst damage talents and perk like the 15% life zap. I also used envenom.

Brightwing
Pretty incredible how much healing she puts out, and the CC from polymorph is nice. Teleporting about the map is good and the team was rarely without my heals pushing them to full hp.

Sgt Hammer
Life was made hard for Sgt Hammer until I picked up Ambush to get a nice little stealth bonus and 100% bonus dmg upon sieging up.

Malfurion
A solid support and rooting hero lacking burst heals. Tranquility is heroic is much easier to use and get a reliable result from than Twilight Dream's damage & silence. Its too bad Twilight Dream's aoe is centered on you and forces you into danger.
@METATERREN
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
June 22 2015 16:11 GMT
#146
Rumor is that next week's rotation will be:

Li Li
ETC
Anub'arak
Thrall
Zagara
Nazeebo (12)
Illidan (15)
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4231 Posts
June 22 2015 19:57 GMT
#147
On June 23 2015 01:11 karazax wrote:
Rumor is that next week's rotation will be:

Li Li
ETC
Anub'arak
Thrall
Zagara
Nazeebo (12)
Illidan (15)


The desktop app confirms.
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
Yoav
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1874 Posts
June 22 2015 22:15 GMT
#148
Yay shitty Illidan weeks!

Actually, the general lack of normal ranged Assassins is disturbing. Illidan and Thrall are gonna be fun/funny tho.
eagle
Profile Joined April 2009
United States693 Posts
June 23 2015 07:46 GMT
#149
i love brightwing xd his heals so op and op janna ulti and op polymorphs xd
Leolio X
Profile Joined April 2015
France26 Posts
June 23 2015 13:25 GMT
#150
On June 18 2015 02:41 Wuster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2015 21:35 Leolio X wrote:
On June 17 2015 03:31 Crownlol wrote:
On June 17 2015 02:33 Wuster wrote:
Was playing Hero League most of last week, but I really do enjoy Jaina / Sylv and dont' own them so I went back to QM to play them before they got rotated out.

Man I didn't used to think there was a big difference between HL and QM, but boy did I feel it yesterday. From people throwing the games because someone was mean to them, to multiple rDPS doing less damage than Tyrael (who wasn't even played that well), it was just a disaster on multiple levels. Then when I didn't want to lose I decided to pick an assassin I'm really comfortable with (because I feel dps is easier to carry with than warrior) and I queue straight into Zeratul / Nova / Illidan (who takes Hunt) as Valla.

Makes me have second thoughts about trying out KT this week lol.

Edit: I should note that I only won the two games I chain d/c-ed / had connection problems in too, that's a real confidence boost in my abilities.


QM is like the third circle of hell once you get to higher levels and start playing HL if you have any competitive gaming experience.

QM is honestly entirely unplayable, and I only queue if I'm making a troll team with my teammates (like that Thrillidan build or Paintrain or something) or experimenting with a new hero.



It's true people play poorly but unless you play warrior, if you play well you really can turn the tide up. I usually make 35 - 1 games in QM with Nova and even with feeders and disrespectful people I don't lose. A good healer can make wonders, and of course a specialist will make tons of damage no matter what.

edit: Also, free Kael, that's great. :-D


I don't think I ever get QM games where the skill disparity is that massive unless queueing with friends who are new to the game. I did have a QM game where I was I think I was a 24-5 Nova and we lost horribly. Before that I never felt that Nova could carry a team no matter how much she ganked, and that game felt like confirmation to me. But 35-1 is like a score you get playing against bots lol, so in that case I can believe the carry potential.


To me, 24-5 Nova in Quickmatch is bad. You have to be at least + 30 or +35, even on short games. I'm only rank 25 but I make a huge difference when solo-queueing QM. If I lose it's because I'm using Heroes I don't play well (yup, Illidan for example), or my allies really really played bad. Or of course 1 guy on the opposite team is better than me, and it's surprising it doesn't happen often since I'm not very good.

Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
June 23 2015 18:02 GMT
#151
Ya 5 deaths is a lot. I don't consider 24 takedowns bad in a losing effort though, I can't comprehend regularly going +30 just to win*...

I've had plenty of games where we stomp the other side and my kill/death ratio is a very modest 11-2 (as Muradin) or even an afk-looking 9-0 (Tassadar). More competitive games I don't often break 30 total takedowns either. Maybe this speaks more to why Nova and I don't really click, but even when I've carried friends on other DPS, the final tally was more like 27-1 or something and felt like utter domination, not the minimum prerequisite to winning.

* Since takedowns/deaths are such a small part of the overall picture, I'll add some context to that game, 24 takedowns was more than the next two on my team combined. And I think everyone else was in the low teens for deaths. My team was terrible is what I'm getting at, and contributing more kills than the rest of the team didn't seem to move the needle is why I concluded that Nova just can't do it.
Leolio X
Profile Joined April 2015
France26 Posts
June 24 2015 13:47 GMT
#152
On June 24 2015 03:02 Wuster wrote:
Ya 5 deaths is a lot. I don't consider 24 takedowns bad in a losing effort though, I can't comprehend regularly going +30 just to win*...

I've had plenty of games where we stomp the other side and my kill/death ratio is a very modest 11-2 (as Muradin) or even an afk-looking 9-0 (Tassadar). More competitive games I don't often break 30 total takedowns either. Maybe this speaks more to why Nova and I don't really click, but even when I've carried friends on other DPS, the final tally was more like 27-1 or something and felt like utter domination, not the minimum prerequisite to winning.

* Since takedowns/deaths are such a small part of the overall picture, I'll add some context to that game, 24 takedowns was more than the next two on my team combined. And I think everyone else was in the low teens for deaths. My team was terrible is what I'm getting at, and contributing more kills than the rest of the team didn't seem to move the needle is why I concluded that Nova just can't do it.


+ 19 is actually pretty good when you lose, but I say to make a big difference in QM you have to be at +30. You're Nova, not Zagara, if you want to win the game despite very bad allies you have to make a huge difference. Most people will fall for your holo decoy, most people won't see you when you roam, and most people don't know how powerful your burst is because QM is full of people learning the game or learning a new hero.
Won 1 QM yesteray with a small +20 so it's not a rule or a prerequisite, it's just a vague opinion on QM as a Nova main. ;-)
Even in Hero League I very rarely kill less than 25. But it's often, as you say, not enough to turn the tables. You're Nova, your impact on the game is map awareness and kills, not much.
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
June 24 2015 15:39 GMT
#153
I get what your saying now. Nova does one thing well and you really have to leverage that strength to impact the game. I mean I knew that was the general idea about all heroes, I guess I underestimated how skewed Nova is towards assassinating.

Nova is my guilty pleasure when she's on rotation so I'm not that adept at getting constant ganks (I'm beyond awful with Zeratul for example). Next time she rotates in I'll remember to really have that mentality that I gotta hunt for picks rather than being passive like I would be with other assassins (who can do something else while waiting for someone to overextend or for a teammate to rotate down and surprise someone).
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
June 29 2015 17:18 GMT
#154
June 30-July 7

Falstad
Raynor
Muradin
Sonya
Tyrande
Gazlowe 12
Azmodan 15
Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
July 07 2015 06:53 GMT
#155
July 7 - July 13 Free Weekly Rotation:
  • Malfurion
  • Valla
  • Tassadar
  • Stitches
  • Sylvanas

  • Zeratul (requires lvl 12)
  • Johanna (requires lvl 15)

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sacrilegious
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada863 Posts
July 07 2015 11:49 GMT
#156
And just as I started this game, and made a qq post about Zeratul (and Nova)... here we go, guess I'm really going to have to read guides to how to deal with this nuisance and hope I don't have a bad one on my team. Not a fan of Stitches either, 2 games had allies just hook enemies from a group of 3-4, get ganged up and die then proceed to blame us -_-, plus I hate Pudge from DOTA 2

On the other hand, looking forward to Sylvanas cuz of her lore and to see how good she is, and I heard good things about Johanna... should be ok overall I hope
MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
July 07 2015 15:02 GMT
#157
On July 07 2015 20:49 sacrilegious wrote:
And just as I started this game, and made a qq post about Zeratul (and Nova)... here we go, guess I'm really going to have to read guides to how to deal with this nuisance and hope I don't have a bad one on my team. Not a fan of Stitches either, 2 games had allies just hook enemies from a group of 3-4, get ganged up and die then proceed to blame us -_-, plus I hate Pudge from DOTA 2

On the other hand, looking forward to Sylvanas cuz of her lore and to see how good she is, and I heard good things about Johanna... should be ok overall I hope


Stiches logic:

Step #1: Hook enemy.
Step #2: Team kills enemy.

He did #1, so you clearly messed up step #2.
Don't Panic
sacrilegious
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada863 Posts
July 07 2015 17:35 GMT
#158
On July 08 2015 00:02 MotherFox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 20:49 sacrilegious wrote:
And just as I started this game, and made a qq post about Zeratul (and Nova)... here we go, guess I'm really going to have to read guides to how to deal with this nuisance and hope I don't have a bad one on my team. Not a fan of Stitches either, 2 games had allies just hook enemies from a group of 3-4, get ganged up and die then proceed to blame us -_-, plus I hate Pudge from DOTA 2

On the other hand, looking forward to Sylvanas cuz of her lore and to see how good she is, and I heard good things about Johanna... should be ok overall I hope


Stiches logic:

Step #1: Hook enemy.
Step #2: Team kills enemy.

He did #1, so you clearly messed up step #2.

Team does not encompass just me and him vs 3 and more... let alone trying that 30 seconds into the game... but ill assume the sarcasm with the
MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
July 07 2015 20:35 GMT
#159
On July 08 2015 02:35 sacrilegious wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 00:02 MotherFox wrote:
On July 07 2015 20:49 sacrilegious wrote:
And just as I started this game, and made a qq post about Zeratul (and Nova)... here we go, guess I'm really going to have to read guides to how to deal with this nuisance and hope I don't have a bad one on my team. Not a fan of Stitches either, 2 games had allies just hook enemies from a group of 3-4, get ganged up and die then proceed to blame us -_-, plus I hate Pudge from DOTA 2

On the other hand, looking forward to Sylvanas cuz of her lore and to see how good she is, and I heard good things about Johanna... should be ok overall I hope


Stiches logic:

Step #1: Hook enemy.
Step #2: Team kills enemy.

He did #1, so you clearly messed up step #2.

Team does not encompass just me and him vs 3 and more... let alone trying that 30 seconds into the game... but ill assume the sarcasm with the


Yeah, definitely sarcastic.

Don't Panic
Garbels
Profile Joined July 2010
Austria653 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-13 15:34:33
July 13 2015 15:34 GMT
#160
July 14 - July 20 Free Weekly Rotation:
  • Li Li
  • ETC
  • Diablo
  • Tychus
  • Rehgar

  • Sgt. Hammer (Available after you reach player level 12)
  • Kael'thas (Available after you reach player level 15)
Odoakar
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia1837 Posts
July 13 2015 15:53 GMT
#161
Poor hammers, kt's will have a field day.
Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-13 18:34:41
July 13 2015 18:32 GMT
#162
Lol Kael'thas with Hammer again? Last month had them paired as well. Poor Hammer players...
Writer
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
July 13 2015 18:38 GMT
#163
On July 14 2015 03:32 Valiver wrote:
Lol Kael'thas with Hammer again? Last month had them paired as well. Poor Hammer players...

Yeah and I think Rehgar was in the same group, I don't really know what's happening.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
July 14 2015 02:37 GMT
#164
Well, at least there are 2 decent healers so most QMs should have a healer, rather than Tass/Tyrande getting matched up against Malfurion all the time.

But time for there to be Kael'Thas in every game. Think I might give him a spin. Seeing people somehow manage to struggle with Kael'Thas is painful to watch.

Or maybe Zeratul to camp those poor newbie Kaels...

Either way, it's a good week to be DPS, with two very weak tanks, husks of their former selves
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7297 Posts
July 14 2015 02:51 GMT
#165
On July 14 2015 11:37 Larkin wrote:
Well, at least there are 2 decent healers so most QMs should have a healer, rather than Tass/Tyrande getting matched up against Malfurion all the time.

But time for there to be Kael'Thas in every game. Think I might give him a spin. Seeing people somehow manage to struggle with Kael'Thas is painful to watch.

Or maybe Zeratul to camp those poor newbie Kaels...

Either way, it's a good week to be DPS, with two very weak tanks, husks of their former selves


Aw, ETC is weak now? ;_; Oh well, all I care about is landing sick Mosh Pits anyways.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
July 14 2015 02:56 GMT
#166
On July 14 2015 11:51 Zambrah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2015 11:37 Larkin wrote:
Well, at least there are 2 decent healers so most QMs should have a healer, rather than Tass/Tyrande getting matched up against Malfurion all the time.

But time for there to be Kael'Thas in every game. Think I might give him a spin. Seeing people somehow manage to struggle with Kael'Thas is painful to watch.

Or maybe Zeratul to camp those poor newbie Kaels...

Either way, it's a good week to be DPS, with two very weak tanks, husks of their former selves


Aw, ETC is weak now? ;_; Oh well, all I care about is landing sick Mosh Pits anyways.

ETC isn't too bad. It's more like most other tanks are stronger so he's not used very much.
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Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
July 14 2015 04:17 GMT
#167
On July 14 2015 11:56 Valiver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2015 11:51 Zambrah wrote:
On July 14 2015 11:37 Larkin wrote:
Well, at least there are 2 decent healers so most QMs should have a healer, rather than Tass/Tyrande getting matched up against Malfurion all the time.

But time for there to be Kael'Thas in every game. Think I might give him a spin. Seeing people somehow manage to struggle with Kael'Thas is painful to watch.

Or maybe Zeratul to camp those poor newbie Kaels...

Either way, it's a good week to be DPS, with two very weak tanks, husks of their former selves


Aw, ETC is weak now? ;_; Oh well, all I care about is landing sick Mosh Pits anyways.

ETC isn't too bad. It's more like most other tanks are stronger so he's not used very much.


I'd rank tanks:

Muradin
Tyrael
Johanna
Anub'arak
ETC
Stitches
Arthas
Sonya
Diablo
Chen

But yeah you rarely see others out of the top 4 there.
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7297 Posts
July 14 2015 04:48 GMT
#168
On July 14 2015 13:17 Larkin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2015 11:56 Valiver wrote:
On July 14 2015 11:51 Zambrah wrote:
On July 14 2015 11:37 Larkin wrote:
Well, at least there are 2 decent healers so most QMs should have a healer, rather than Tass/Tyrande getting matched up against Malfurion all the time.

But time for there to be Kael'Thas in every game. Think I might give him a spin. Seeing people somehow manage to struggle with Kael'Thas is painful to watch.

Or maybe Zeratul to camp those poor newbie Kaels...

Either way, it's a good week to be DPS, with two very weak tanks, husks of their former selves


Aw, ETC is weak now? ;_; Oh well, all I care about is landing sick Mosh Pits anyways.

ETC isn't too bad. It's more like most other tanks are stronger so he's not used very much.


I'd rank tanks:

Muradin
Tyrael
Johanna
Anub'arak
ETC
Stitches
Arthas
Sonya
Diablo
Chen

But yeah you rarely see others out of the top 4 there.


Lord, Diablo hath fallen. I'm tempted to buy another Tank, I just bought Nazeebo and Zagara since I had no specialists but atm ETC is my only tank... probably Tyrael or Anub'arak.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Paradice
Profile Joined October 2010
New Zealand431 Posts
July 14 2015 05:34 GMT
#169
On July 14 2015 13:17 Larkin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2015 11:56 Valiver wrote:
On July 14 2015 11:51 Zambrah wrote:
On July 14 2015 11:37 Larkin wrote:
Well, at least there are 2 decent healers so most QMs should have a healer, rather than Tass/Tyrande getting matched up against Malfurion all the time.

But time for there to be Kael'Thas in every game. Think I might give him a spin. Seeing people somehow manage to struggle with Kael'Thas is painful to watch.

Or maybe Zeratul to camp those poor newbie Kaels...

Either way, it's a good week to be DPS, with two very weak tanks, husks of their former selves


Aw, ETC is weak now? ;_; Oh well, all I care about is landing sick Mosh Pits anyways.

ETC isn't too bad. It's more like most other tanks are stronger so he's not used very much.


I'd rank tanks:

Muradin
Tyrael
Johanna
Anub'arak
ETC
Stitches
Arthas
Sonya
Diablo
Chen

But yeah you rarely see others out of the top 4 there.


Hmm, I think Anub'arak has fallen away in just the past week or two. Couldn't even say why, but just not seeing him as much any more. Meanwhile, Arthas is back baby! He's been popping up regularly in recent tournament games.

I also think Johanna is still slightly preferred over Muradin most of the time.
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
July 14 2015 10:02 GMT
#170
Anub was never a solo-tank, and now that his beetles have been turned down his squish ones is showing again. Still a great pick for us non-pros imo. Arthas I think is helped a lot by the changes to regen master, but every now and then some team seems to dust him off for whatever reason, so it could be another fad.

Also having played some Johanna this week, she's just all around great. Maybe not as good at ripping up a back line as Muradin but she's so damn hard to kill it's just great.
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
July 14 2015 21:59 GMT
#171
On July 14 2015 14:34 Paradice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2015 13:17 Larkin wrote:
On July 14 2015 11:56 Valiver wrote:
On July 14 2015 11:51 Zambrah wrote:
On July 14 2015 11:37 Larkin wrote:
Well, at least there are 2 decent healers so most QMs should have a healer, rather than Tass/Tyrande getting matched up against Malfurion all the time.

But time for there to be Kael'Thas in every game. Think I might give him a spin. Seeing people somehow manage to struggle with Kael'Thas is painful to watch.

Or maybe Zeratul to camp those poor newbie Kaels...

Either way, it's a good week to be DPS, with two very weak tanks, husks of their former selves


Aw, ETC is weak now? ;_; Oh well, all I care about is landing sick Mosh Pits anyways.

ETC isn't too bad. It's more like most other tanks are stronger so he's not used very much.


I'd rank tanks:

Muradin
Tyrael
Johanna
Anub'arak
ETC
Stitches
Arthas
Sonya
Diablo
Chen

But yeah you rarely see others out of the top 4 there.


Hmm, I think Anub'arak has fallen away in just the past week or two. Couldn't even say why, but just not seeing him as much any more. Meanwhile, Arthas is back baby! He's been popping up regularly in recent tournament games.

I also think Johanna is still slightly preferred over Muradin most of the time.


It varies a lot based on playstyle. Anub can't charge in alone anymore, but still works well when co-ordinated.

Also, Johanna with Abathur = godmode.
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
July 15 2015 02:01 GMT
#172
Arthas is mostly used as a super Sylvanas on the Spider map. As his ult removes the defenders advantage for 20 seconds, which is quite good if you have a spider as backup. Basically a conter to Azmodan play, since you will never be able to get him stacked before the game ends.

And Johanna is just the best for protecting heroes without an escape. Which usually is something powerful spellcasters lack of. And here comes Muradin into play, his Thunderclap is so good against autoattack heroes, that you basically need him or have him banned if you have something that autoattacks.

Tyrael is currently also pretty well liked, because of both of his ults and that he can provide good protection for the non escape assassins.

So i might be Muradin biased, but because Muradin is so OP, people have to use things where Muradin isn't godlike, which makes other tanks popular. Might also be that spellcasters are powerful as well with a tank that provides vision without being at risk of dieing.

I also think that the double ban system changed alot. I expected it to be alot more limiting then it turned out to be though.
Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
July 20 2015 16:48 GMT
#173
July 21 - July 27 Free Weekly Rotation:
  • Raynor
  • Muradin
  • Arthas
  • Uther
  • Nazeebo

  • Jaina (requires lvl 12)
  • Kerrigan (requires lvl 15)
Writer
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
July 21 2015 05:49 GMT
#174
On July 14 2015 13:48 Zambrah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2015 13:17 Larkin wrote:
On July 14 2015 11:56 Valiver wrote:
On July 14 2015 11:51 Zambrah wrote:
On July 14 2015 11:37 Larkin wrote:
Well, at least there are 2 decent healers so most QMs should have a healer, rather than Tass/Tyrande getting matched up against Malfurion all the time.

But time for there to be Kael'Thas in every game. Think I might give him a spin. Seeing people somehow manage to struggle with Kael'Thas is painful to watch.

Or maybe Zeratul to camp those poor newbie Kaels...

Either way, it's a good week to be DPS, with two very weak tanks, husks of their former selves


Aw, ETC is weak now? ;_; Oh well, all I care about is landing sick Mosh Pits anyways.

ETC isn't too bad. It's more like most other tanks are stronger so he's not used very much.


I'd rank tanks:

Muradin
Tyrael
Johanna
Anub'arak
ETC
Stitches
Arthas
Sonya
Diablo
Chen

But yeah you rarely see others out of the top 4 there.


Lord, Diablo hath fallen. I'm tempted to buy another Tank, I just bought Nazeebo and Zagara since I had no specialists but atm ETC is my only tank... probably Tyrael or Anub'arak.


I've been debating recently between Chen and Tyrael. Something about Chen's style attracts me but I'm worried about having such little disruption that tanks usually have (also being immobile for the shield). Tyrael on the other hand is sort of all round decent seeming. I've saved up about 20k gold but want to keep some banked for the Diablo Monk hero.
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4231 Posts
July 21 2015 09:43 GMT
#175
On July 21 2015 01:48 Valiver wrote:
July 21 - July 27 Free Weekly Rotation:
  • Raynor
  • Muradin
  • Arthas
  • Uther
  • Nazeebo

  • Jaina (requires lvl 12)
  • Kerrigan (requires lvl 15)


Meh week for me this one. The fun heroes in there I already own.

If blizz follows the latest pattern, we should be getting free week butcher soon right? And Leoric wasn't supposed to be released this week? Maybe next one? Anyone knows something about his release date yet?
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4231 Posts
July 21 2015 13:53 GMT
#176
On July 21 2015 18:43 KobraKay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2015 01:48 Valiver wrote:
July 21 - July 27 Free Weekly Rotation:
  • Raynor
  • Muradin
  • Arthas
  • Uther
  • Nazeebo

  • Jaina (requires lvl 12)
  • Kerrigan (requires lvl 15)


Meh week for me this one. The fun heroes in there I already own.

If blizz follows the latest pattern, we should be getting free week butcher soon right? And Leoric wasn't supposed to be released this week? Maybe next one? Anyone knows something about his release date yet?


Sorry for the double post but I'm watching Grubby's stream and he said Leoric will be released today in the US, tomorrow on EU!!! :D hype!!
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
July 21 2015 22:12 GMT
#177
On July 21 2015 14:49 Roe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2015 13:48 Zambrah wrote:
On July 14 2015 13:17 Larkin wrote:
On July 14 2015 11:56 Valiver wrote:
On July 14 2015 11:51 Zambrah wrote:
On July 14 2015 11:37 Larkin wrote:
Well, at least there are 2 decent healers so most QMs should have a healer, rather than Tass/Tyrande getting matched up against Malfurion all the time.

But time for there to be Kael'Thas in every game. Think I might give him a spin. Seeing people somehow manage to struggle with Kael'Thas is painful to watch.

Or maybe Zeratul to camp those poor newbie Kaels...

Either way, it's a good week to be DPS, with two very weak tanks, husks of their former selves


Aw, ETC is weak now? ;_; Oh well, all I care about is landing sick Mosh Pits anyways.

ETC isn't too bad. It's more like most other tanks are stronger so he's not used very much.


I'd rank tanks:

Muradin
Tyrael
Johanna
Anub'arak
ETC
Stitches
Arthas
Sonya
Diablo
Chen

But yeah you rarely see others out of the top 4 there.


Lord, Diablo hath fallen. I'm tempted to buy another Tank, I just bought Nazeebo and Zagara since I had no specialists but atm ETC is my only tank... probably Tyrael or Anub'arak.


I've been debating recently between Chen and Tyrael. Something about Chen's style attracts me but I'm worried about having such little disruption that tanks usually have (also being immobile for the shield). Tyrael on the other hand is sort of all round decent seeming. I've saved up about 20k gold but want to keep some banked for the Diablo Monk hero.


Tyrael is a hundred times more viable than Chen imo
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karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
July 21 2015 22:51 GMT
#178
I'd go for Tyrael unless you have already played Chen when he was a free hero and were happy with him. Chen costs 3k more gold and he is less competitive because his shield is interruptible. Ideally you will have played Tyrael when he was free too or wait until the next time they rotate in if you aren't in a hurry.
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
July 21 2015 23:07 GMT
#179
Ended up picking Tyrael, went 5-0 with him in HL so I'm pretty happy. Only thing I'm not liking is I'm rarely above 10% mana.

In other news: Leoric is available
Garbels
Profile Joined July 2010
Austria653 Posts
July 27 2015 14:34 GMT
#180
Week of Tuesday, July 28, 2015:
  • Malfurion
  • Valla
  • Tyrael
  • Zagara
  • Chen
  • Tyrande (Available after you reach player level 12)
  • Illidan (Available after you reach player level 15)
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
July 27 2015 15:11 GMT
#181
On July 22 2015 08:07 Roe wrote:
Ended up picking Tyrael, went 5-0 with him in HL so I'm pretty happy. Only thing I'm not liking is I'm rarely above 10% mana.

In other news: Leoric is available

Well you will get your chance to try chen too looks like this week.
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
July 29 2015 01:13 GMT
#182
Time for squishy tanks in QM in abundance, heh.

Glad Illidan and Tyrande have the level caps to stop the newest of the new using them. Bad Tyrande vs a real support = gg, bad illidan = gg.
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Garbels
Profile Joined July 2010
Austria653 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-03 11:57:32
August 03 2015 11:56 GMT
#183
Fresh meat:

Week of Tuesday, August 4, 2015:
  • Li Li
  • E.T.C.
  • Nova
  • Tassadar
  • Thrall
  • Azmodan (Available after you reach player level 12)
  • Butcher (Available after you reach player level 15)
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
August 03 2015 15:44 GMT
#184
I love when new heroes get into the free rotation! :D
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
August 03 2015 16:15 GMT
#185
haha Butcher Vs Lili. They really like evil matchups, like Nova vs Tassadar. Kael vs Hammer. Also poor Thrall.
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
August 03 2015 16:49 GMT
#186
You get Thrall for free then if you're level 15 you get good Thrall
Wat
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
August 03 2015 17:40 GMT
#187
I don't suspect I'll like Butcher that much, but I'm still eager to try him out.
MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
August 03 2015 18:42 GMT
#188
excited to try azmodunk builds again. (and subsequently re-discover that I'm terrible at it and shouldn't spend 10k gold on him)
Don't Panic
[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
August 03 2015 19:19 GMT
#189
It will be madness with both thrall and butcher this week. I predcit a lot of people calling Butcher OP, and a lot of people dying helplessly all the time. It will be Illidan week all over again haha.
WriterTeamLiquid Staff writer since 2014 @Mortal_Phantom
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
August 03 2015 19:21 GMT
#190
Melee assassins really seem to feel level differences the most. Unstoppable when ahead and hopeless feeders when behind.
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
August 04 2015 09:39 GMT
#191
On August 04 2015 04:19 [Phantom] wrote:
It will be madness with both thrall and butcher this week. I predcit a lot of people calling Butcher OP, and a lot of people dying helplessly all the time. It will be Illidan week all over again haha.

As someone who has the most games with Butcher out of all heroes, I predict that most people will feed a lot with him than doing something useful. :D
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
August 04 2015 10:00 GMT
#192
So, I was in a heroleague game where someone was debating between Butcher and Valla. In allied chat during the draft, I said he could do butcher as long as he wasn't prone to just charging in and getting himself killed a lot. He said "Don't worry, I know butch." A few seconds into the match, my friend we were playing also typed, "Don't take lamb to the slaughter if their support takes cleanse"--- to which the butcher said, "I've played him a lot guys"

About four minutes goes by. We're in a pretty intense team fight which I've just successfully peeled us away from. All of a sudden I hear, "FRESH MEAT" and see a butcher charge from behind me into four of their enemy team with only a quarter of his health bar. Of course, he dies almost immediately and three seconds later the butcher player says "...my b"

#facepalm
Don't Panic
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
August 04 2015 14:08 GMT
#193
I'm literally trying Nova for the first time today thanks to her being f2p. Having a blast in QM doing massive damage and sniping some intense kills.
Immersion_
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom794 Posts
August 04 2015 17:54 GMT
#194
On August 04 2015 23:08 Roe wrote:
I'm literally trying Nova for the first time today thanks to her being f2p. Having a blast in QM doing massive damage and sniping some intense kills.


I have a bit more sympathy for all those HL nova players now as she is admittedly very fun.
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Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
August 04 2015 19:06 GMT
#195
She really is, especially in the mage heavy meta. The feeling of kill or be killed is kind of exciting too (and often when you get the gank off you still die to the rest of the team lol).
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-05 20:09:22
August 05 2015 20:07 GMT
#196
Just started a new account on EU for a stimpak and funsies... Went 6-1 playing mostly auto-select (for faster queues... didn't work though). Was very interesting seeing game after game of free rotation heroes. The Nova's weren't as useless as I'd expected though the Lili's often were not very good (understandable, everyone tries to deal damage when they're new). Didn't see any ETC's except the one time I played him though oddly enough. I guess I'm the odd-ball who likes warriors.

Turns out newbs absolutely cannot handle Azmo pushing. Also, newbies don't know how to help me farm stacks so I was often very low on globe damage, oh well though, we still won most games (sole lose due to a Thrall who didn't understand objectives and a Nova who was chain-d/c-ing).

It's a little validating to know that I've gotten better even if my one game with Valla (first purchase to farm gold/xp with) was near-disasterous (sleepy, overconfident and talent gated are a dangerous mix).
Garbels
Profile Joined July 2010
Austria653 Posts
August 10 2015 12:02 GMT
#197
Hold on to your hats:

Week of Tuesday, August 11, 2015:
  • Raynor
  • Muradin
  • Falstad
  • Sonya
  • Sylvanas
  • Murky (Available after you reach player level 12)
  • Abathur (Available after you reach player level 15)

DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44321 Posts
August 10 2015 12:06 GMT
#198
On August 10 2015 21:02 Garbels wrote:
Hold on to your hats:

Week of Tuesday, August 11, 2015:
  • Raynor
  • Muradin
  • Falstad
  • Sonya
  • Sylvanas
  • Murky (Available after you reach player level 12)
  • Abathur (Available after you reach player level 15)



I see what you did there
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
August 10 2015 12:23 GMT
#199
It's good to have abathur and murky as free to play eventually, but putting them both on the same week doesn't seem like a good idea.
Freezard
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Sweden1011 Posts
August 10 2015 12:26 GMT
#200
I've had a lot of fun with Butcher this week... he became one of my favorites! Trying Thrall now but unfortunately he seems like a weaker Butcher and I have a hard time getting close to enemies since everyone plays 4-5 assassins in QP and most ones are ranged >_< I'm picking Block and Spell Shield just to survive!
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
August 10 2015 12:59 GMT
#201
On August 10 2015 21:26 Freezard wrote:
I've had a lot of fun with Butcher this week... he became one of my favorites! Trying Thrall now but unfortunately he seems like a weaker Butcher and I have a hard time getting close to enemies since everyone plays 4-5 assassins in QP and most ones are ranged >_< I'm picking Block and Spell Shield just to survive!



If the opposing team has a heavy AA assassin then Block is the correct Lvl1 choice on Thrall. I really enjoy playing him, but it does feel like Butcher is just better overall (Butcher is kind of OP though). Thrall fits very well into PainTrain triple melee teams, and it's an absolute blast to run that setup. Generally we'll do Thrall, Mura, (Kerrigan/Butcher/Illi/Zera) plus heals and Jaina or KT. Once we even had a triplemelee doublehealer setup just for fun in HL (single digit ranks) and we actually steamrolled pretty hard. The current "KT Jaina Malf Zera autowin" meta gets completely blown out by a TSG style team, I'm loving it.
shaGuar :: elemeNt :: XeqtR :: naikon :: method
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
August 10 2015 14:09 GMT
#202
Ohboy, Murky and Abathur? Time for Abathurs that sit in the base and don't soak and Murkies that do nothing but splitpush poorly, fun times in QM ahead! Especially with no free support...
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
Yoav
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1874 Posts
August 10 2015 14:17 GMT
#203
Lol murky abathur.

Some devs just want the world to burn. Tho honestly, I can imagine them basically saying "Ya know, abathur free week is gonna fuck up all our data a lot and murky free week fucks it up a little, lets just stack em and ignore that week of data."

So glad I have time this week to Zeratul around killing eggs and evo masters.
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
August 10 2015 14:23 GMT
#204
On August 10 2015 23:17 Yoav wrote:
Lol murky abathur.

Some devs just want the world to burn. Tho honestly, I can imagine them basically saying "Ya know, abathur free week is gonna fuck up all our data a lot and murky free week fucks it up a little, lets just stack em and ignore that week of data."

So glad I have time this week to Zeratul around killing eggs and evo masters.



If I played QM I'd agree with you


Although full disclosure I lost a HL (rank 10ish) game against an Abathur+Murky combo, hatted Murky is no joke.
shaGuar :: elemeNt :: XeqtR :: naikon :: method
rdvark5000
Profile Joined June 2014
Canada13 Posts
August 10 2015 14:37 GMT
#205
Hatted murky is the devil, especially with bubble build, you can't kill the murky and it the symbiote can fire while he is invulnerable.
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
August 10 2015 15:20 GMT
#206
Murky + Abathur is really sick combo. I've played that with a friend few times. Firstly it helps in the early game(where Murky has the most problems) and it becomes quite difficult to lane against you unless opponents have some idiotic burst, and secondly if you are ignored in teamfights you are going to wreck havoc.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
August 10 2015 15:26 GMT
#207
The ultimate anti murky hero is also in the free rotation though. Nothing new that the free hero have really strong combinations and their counters in it.
If you play Raynor chase murky and make him cry, trying to clear waves.
MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
August 10 2015 15:45 GMT
#208
I was wondering why raynors have been breaking out of team fights to attack me relentlessly, chasing me to the ends of the earth.
Don't Panic
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
August 10 2015 18:18 GMT
#209
On August 10 2015 23:09 Larkin wrote:
Ohboy, Murky and Abathur? Time for Abathurs that sit in the base and don't soak and Murkies that do nothing but splitpush poorly, fun times in QM ahead! Especially with no free support...


Abathur's who don't soak make me sad. Played last night as Nova with one of those, plus an Illidan who yolo-ed from gank-attempt to gank-attemp early game and well... we were many levels down before 10 hit.
[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
August 10 2015 18:25 GMT
#210
I mean, octograb withotuh cleanse will be just stupid.

I better play murky this weak if I want to be able to play at all.
WriterTeamLiquid Staff writer since 2014 @Mortal_Phantom
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-10 18:49:04
August 10 2015 18:48 GMT
#211
The plot thickens!



(For those that don't want to compare, Latin America account tweeted the rotation with Brightwing instead of Murky)
MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
August 10 2015 18:53 GMT
#212
where do the early rotation figures come from? datamining?
Don't Panic
Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
August 10 2015 18:57 GMT
#213
It's not going to be Murky - http://eu.battle.net/heroes/en/forum/topic/13604571130
Writer
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
August 10 2015 19:06 GMT
#214
On August 11 2015 00:45 MotherFox wrote:
I was wondering why raynors have been breaking out of team fights to attack me relentlessly, chasing me to the ends of the earth.


Well those are just stupid. Chasing with Raynor lol.
Garbels
Profile Joined July 2010
Austria653 Posts
August 10 2015 19:54 GMT
#215
On August 11 2015 03:57 Valiver wrote:
It's not going to be Murky - http://eu.battle.net/heroes/en/forum/topic/13604571130

Looks like the changed it hours later. On page two you can still see the original(thats where I got it from)
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
August 10 2015 19:58 GMT
#216
Damn, I wanted to play murky
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
August 10 2015 21:40 GMT
#217
Thats a shame, but I guess they forgot that they need a support in the free rotation.
MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
August 12 2015 04:49 GMT
#218
Wow, I really didn't expect to find abathur so...dull to play?
Don't Panic
DoctorHot
Profile Joined September 2011
United States42 Posts
August 12 2015 07:36 GMT
#219
Just got done playing for a bit, and wow the Abathurs I played with were painfully bad. So I switch to Abathur to not have to play with them, and my first game is against a Zeratul AND a Nova haha.

I don't know if it's allowed to post a stream link in here - I couldn't find any rules not to - but I found a dude, twitch.tv/abathur1613, who plays all Abathur all the time, I learned pretty much everything I know from him. So if you're struggling with Abathur free week, go check him out.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6928 Posts
August 12 2015 21:18 GMT
#220
Just played a game with me as Aba and a pretty good murky... the ownage was real:
they didn't kill a single fort from us and we were alway 3-4 levels ahead with a 31:7 kill count

With the Hat Murky can so be much more annoying than he already is and you just can't kill him ^^
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
August 12 2015 21:42 GMT
#221
Abathur is fun, but I get angry whenever the rest of the team decides they don't want to defend one of my babies T.T . You need to take some toxic nest talents against Nova, Zera.
They will stop roaming pretty fast xD.
Yoav
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1874 Posts
August 12 2015 22:51 GMT
#222
On August 12 2015 16:36 DoctorHot wrote:
Just got done playing for a bit, and wow the Abathurs I played with were painfully bad. So I switch to Abathur to not have to play with them, and my first game is against a Zeratul AND a Nova haha.

I don't know if it's allowed to post a stream link in here - I couldn't find any rules not to - but I found a dude, twitch.tv/abathur1613, who plays all Abathur all the time, I learned pretty much everything I know from him. So if you're struggling with Abathur free week, go check him out.


Thanks for linking this. Really enjoying these videos.
Leolio
Profile Joined April 2012
France633 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-14 13:05:31
August 14 2015 13:04 GMT
#223
Worse than free Illidan week, free Abathur week.
Rule 1: Every team will have an Abathur.
Rule 2: If you have no Abathur on your team, congratulation, you've just won a game.
Rule 3: you shall not queue as Nova (bad with Abathur) or Murky (bad with and vs Abathur), my 2 mains.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44321 Posts
August 14 2015 14:36 GMT
#224
On August 14 2015 22:04 Leolio wrote:
Worse than free Illidan week, free Abathur week.
Rule 1: Every team will have an Abathur.
Rule 2: If you have no Abathur on your team, congratulation, you've just won a game.
Rule 3: you shall not queue as Nova (bad with Abathur) or Murky (bad with and vs Abathur), my 2 mains.


Learn abathur on your own, play as him, win against teams with noob abathurs!
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
August 14 2015 14:57 GMT
#225
The only thing I don't like about this is many of my friends are simply not logging on for QM games this week. I didn't think so many people would reject QM just because of one character :\
Don't Panic
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44321 Posts
August 14 2015 15:35 GMT
#226
On August 14 2015 23:57 MotherFox wrote:
The only thing I don't like about this is many of my friends are simply not logging on for QM games this week. I didn't think so many people would reject QM just because of one character :\


What if they did HL for the week instead?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Immersion_
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom794 Posts
August 14 2015 16:57 GMT
#227
On August 14 2015 22:04 Leolio wrote:
Worse than free Illidan week, free Abathur week.
Rule 1: Every team will have an Abathur.
Rule 2: If you have no Abathur on your team, congratulation, you've just won a game.
Rule 3: you shall not queue as Nova (bad with Abathur) or Murky (bad with and vs Abathur), my 2 mains.


Agree with the exception of Murky, who is an absolute beast with Abathur (a good one anyway).
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MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
August 17 2015 18:20 GMT
#228
posted to EU message boards-

August 18 rotation

Malfurion
Valla
Anub'arak
Tychus
Nazebo
Johanna (from level 12)
Kael'thas (from level 15)
Don't Panic
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6928 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-18 11:07:00
August 18 2015 11:02 GMT
#229
uh nice, finally getting a chance to play Joh

were there ever TLV in the f2p rotation? or did i just miss them?


On August 15 2015 01:57 Immersion_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2015 22:04 Leolio wrote:
Worse than free Illidan week, free Abathur week.
Rule 1: Every team will have an Abathur.
Rule 2: If you have no Abathur on your team, congratulation, you've just won a game.
Rule 3: you shall not queue as Nova (bad with Abathur) or Murky (bad with and vs Abathur), my 2 mains.


Agree with the exception of Murky, who is an absolute beast with Abathur (a good one anyway).


I had a game with me as Aba and a pretty good Murky. We owned actually pretty hard cause it was a MUST to have 2 heroes defending murky or he would have killed their core in under 10min, and i could even push/soak a second lane which resulted in a 2-3 level lead through the whole game.
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
WonnaPlay
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands912 Posts
August 18 2015 12:42 GMT
#230
On August 18 2015 20:02 Harris1st wrote:
uh nice, finally getting a chance to play Joh

were there ever TLV in the f2p rotation? or did i just miss them?


I don't think so.
Playing TLV as a former (good) sc player is so awesome. I love them so much, especially since I can carry my rl friends easily.

For Hero league I use TLV on Battle for Eternity, Garden of Terror and sometimes Dragon Shire. <3
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
August 18 2015 13:54 GMT
#231
you missed them. Same week as Kael I think ?
WonnaPlay
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands912 Posts
August 18 2015 14:10 GMT
#232
On August 18 2015 22:54 FeyFey wrote:
you missed them. Same week as Kael I think ?


May 19, 2015 - May 25, 2015
MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
August 18 2015 14:43 GMT
#233
I've been playing since April and everything has been on free week except murky and some newer characters. (Leoric, obv the monk now)
Don't Panic
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
August 18 2015 14:45 GMT
#234
oh yeah so annoying my murky is level 4 and they removed him from last week because of the missing support T.T .
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
August 18 2015 15:18 GMT
#235
On August 18 2015 23:45 FeyFey wrote:
oh yeah so annoying my murky is level 4 and they removed him from last week because of the missing support T.T .


I really don't think that they removed Murky. I've been tracking the free heroes each week for a very long time and it's clear that there is an algorithm which chooses the heroes for the week.

As soon as I saw last week's list (the incorrect one which included Murky) I knew that there was something wrong. My best guess as to what happened is that the person who posted that Murky would be free simply made a mistake. It's perfectly conceivable that the poster looked at Brightwing's image and thought that it was Murky.
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
Garbels
Profile Joined July 2010
Austria653 Posts
August 18 2015 16:27 GMT
#236
They announced murky and then they changed it. You can read the bluepost on reddit about it or see the edit in the US forum.
I don't think anyone looks at pictures and then types a list.
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4231 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-18 19:41:02
August 18 2015 16:27 GMT
#237
On August 19 2015 00:18 kingjames01 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2015 23:45 FeyFey wrote:
oh yeah so annoying my murky is level 4 and they removed him from last week because of the missing support T.T .


I really don't think that they removed Murky. I've been tracking the free heroes each week for a very long time and it's clear that there is an algorithm which chooses the heroes for the week.

As soon as I saw last week's list (the incorrect one which included Murky) I knew that there was something wrong. My best guess as to what happened is that the person who posted that Murky would be free simply made a mistake. It's perfectly conceivable that the poster looked at Brightwing's image and thought that it was Murky.


Agreed. So far haven't figured how it is processed but it is not random. For instance Leoric should be free next week (or in two weeks time, sorry i'm at work dont have the notes here) to follow KT and Johanna's pattern. Before last week it was expected that this was Johanna's second free week based on KT's footsteps so it matched expectations. That means that in a few weeks time, Joh will get her third free week and the Butcher will get the second (together, like Joh and KT this week) and probably after that week we will get the first monk free week. I reckon patch changes may affect the patterns since blizz may want to test some of the changes with more people.

Regarding heroes missing, I've played them all free since April/March except Leoric/Monk (for obvious reasons). Well I've never played Murky or TLV either but by choice, as they were free for at least one week each since April/March.
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
August 18 2015 16:33 GMT
#238
murky was last free in march
Don't Panic
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
August 18 2015 17:02 GMT
#239
On August 18 2015 21:42 WonnaPlay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2015 20:02 Harris1st wrote:
uh nice, finally getting a chance to play Joh

were there ever TLV in the f2p rotation? or did i just miss them?


I don't think so.
Playing TLV as a former (good) sc player is so awesome. I love them so much, especially since I can carry my rl friends easily.

For Hero league I use TLV on Battle for Eternity, Garden of Terror and sometimes Dragon Shire. <3


I played TLV during their free week cuz I also used to play SC, so I wanted to see how it felt. Ya they were stupid good (this was pre-nerf), really stretched your multitasking and you could do cool stuff with them... I only played them once. I want a causal game damn it!
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
August 18 2015 21:21 GMT
#240
Yeah if I wanted to work I wouldn't play Heroes :D
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
Garbels
Profile Joined July 2010
Austria653 Posts
August 24 2015 12:40 GMT
#241
All shall suffer.

Week of Tuesday, August 25, 2015:
  • Li Li
  • ETC
  • Rehgar
  • Sgt. Hammer
  • Gazlowe
  • Kerrigan (Available after you reach player level 12)
  • Leoric (Available after you reach player level 15)
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4231 Posts
August 24 2015 19:28 GMT
#242
On August 24 2015 21:40 Garbels wrote:
All shall suffer.

Week of Tuesday, August 25, 2015:
  • Li Li
  • ETC
  • Rehgar
  • Sgt. Hammer
  • Gazlowe
  • Kerrigan (Available after you reach player level 12)
  • Leoric (Available after you reach player level 15)


Cool my prediction last page was correct and we have Leoric free this week indeed :D
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
August 24 2015 19:32 GMT
#243
Hmm, I wonder if I have time tonite to get Johanna to lvl 5.

Then next week I can either finally do my placement matches or try the new Kerrigan and of course Leoric. Or maybe attempt #5 for learning Rehgar...
Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
August 31 2015 16:42 GMT
#244
The Weekly Rotation for September 1-7 is:

  • Raynor
  • Muradin
  • Jaina
  • Uther
  • Zagara
  • Illidan (level 12)
  • Azmodan (level 15)
Writer
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
August 31 2015 23:31 GMT
#245
why aren't they having a Murky freeweek? They were going to a couple weeks back but dropped him for Brightwing... I was expecting him the week(s) after but nope!

Oh well, I'll get to try out Uther, Illidan and Azmodan I guess.
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
Leolio
Profile Joined April 2012
France633 Posts
September 01 2015 15:09 GMT
#246
Yay Illidan free week! Time to go QM with Illidan for free wins. :-)
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7297 Posts
September 01 2015 15:29 GMT
#247
! Jaina free week!
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
September 01 2015 15:49 GMT
#248
Jaina free week is like Nova free week. You play her to avoid misery !
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
September 01 2015 17:38 GMT
#249
On September 01 2015 08:31 Larkin wrote:
why aren't they having a Murky freeweek? They were going to a couple weeks back but dropped him for Brightwing... I was expecting him the week(s) after but nope!


No, they were not. There's so much incorrect information out there, so please understand that this is not true.

It was always going to be Brightwing but whoever looked at the Brightwing icon thought it was Murky. It's obvious based on the lineup that Murky could not have been the last hero.
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7297 Posts
September 01 2015 17:39 GMT
#250
On September 02 2015 00:49 FeyFey wrote:
Jaina free week is like Nova free week. You play her to avoid misery !


It means I play Zeratul. :D
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
September 01 2015 20:40 GMT
#251
On September 02 2015 02:38 kingjames01 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2015 08:31 Larkin wrote:
why aren't they having a Murky freeweek? They were going to a couple weeks back but dropped him for Brightwing... I was expecting him the week(s) after but nope!


No, they were not. There's so much incorrect information out there, so please understand that this is not true.

It was always going to be Brightwing but whoever looked at the Brightwing icon thought it was Murky. It's obvious based on the lineup that Murky could not have been the last hero.


Ah, I see. It was reported here, so excuse me for believing it.

Either way, he's long overdue a free week. We seem to have Raynor so often.
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
Garbels
Profile Joined July 2010
Austria653 Posts
September 01 2015 22:49 GMT
#252
On September 02 2015 02:38 kingjames01 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2015 08:31 Larkin wrote:
why aren't they having a Murky freeweek? They were going to a couple weeks back but dropped him for Brightwing... I was expecting him the week(s) after but nope!


No, they were not. There's so much incorrect information out there, so please understand that this is not true.

It was always going to be Brightwing but whoever looked at the Brightwing icon thought it was Murky. It's obvious based on the lineup that Murky could not have been the last hero.


Why do you keep saying that. Do you really think someone at blizzard looks at Icons and then types some names in a post. So much can go wrong.
And the murkygate is as close as a freeweek removal as is gets because I don't think they will ever remove a hero during free week.
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
September 01 2015 22:57 GMT
#253
On September 02 2015 07:49 Garbels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2015 02:38 kingjames01 wrote:
On September 01 2015 08:31 Larkin wrote:
why aren't they having a Murky freeweek? They were going to a couple weeks back but dropped him for Brightwing... I was expecting him the week(s) after but nope!


No, they were not. There's so much incorrect information out there, so please understand that this is not true.

It was always going to be Brightwing but whoever looked at the Brightwing icon thought it was Murky. It's obvious based on the lineup that Murky could not have been the last hero.


Why do you keep saying that. Do you really think someone at blizzard looks at Icons and then types some names in a post. So much can go wrong.
And the murkygate is as close as a freeweek removal as is gets because I don't think they will ever remove a hero during free week.


I'm saying it because it's true. I've been tracking the free week heroes since I got into the Alpha. If the other 6 heroes named were correct, then it was impossible for the 7th to be Murky.
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
September 01 2015 22:58 GMT
#254
On September 02 2015 05:40 Larkin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2015 02:38 kingjames01 wrote:
On September 01 2015 08:31 Larkin wrote:
why aren't they having a Murky freeweek? They were going to a couple weeks back but dropped him for Brightwing... I was expecting him the week(s) after but nope!


No, they were not. There's so much incorrect information out there, so please understand that this is not true.

It was always going to be Brightwing but whoever looked at the Brightwing icon thought it was Murky. It's obvious based on the lineup that Murky could not have been the last hero.


Ah, I see. It was reported here, so excuse me for believing it.

Either way, he's long overdue a free week. We seem to have Raynor so often.


Raynor comes up more frequently because he costs 2000 gold. There are only 6 of them in the game and there are always 2 heroes from the 2000 gold pool.

Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
September 01 2015 22:59 GMT
#255
Well that's was the official answer, so I guess I'm more likely to believe that over Blizzard deciding at the last minute to spite everyone who wanted to play murky.

IIRC one of the EU twitter accounts actually said Murky in the text while showing a picture of Brightwing in the hexegon of free week heroes too.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
September 01 2015 23:27 GMT
#256
oh thats interesting to know about the 2k gold thingie.

Whatever it was I still belief someone worked overtime and suddenly they noticed shit we got no support !
Mirgu
Profile Joined January 2012
Latvia1 Post
September 07 2015 17:36 GMT
#257
Week of Tuesday, September 8, 2015:

Malfurion
Valla
Stitches
Diablo
Brightwing
Sylvanas (Available after you reach player level 12)
Zeratul (Available after you reach player level 15)

There you go!
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
September 07 2015 17:59 GMT
#258
Aww yis, gon try me some Zeratul.
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
September 14 2015 12:50 GMT
#259
Week of Tuesday, September 15, 2015:

Li Li
ETC
Arthas
Sonya
Tychus
Nazeebo (Available after you reach player level 12)
Butcher (Available after you reach player level 15)


Butcher Time!
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4231 Posts
September 14 2015 13:21 GMT
#260
On September 14 2015 21:50 Radfield wrote:
Week of Tuesday, September 15, 2015:

Li Li
ETC
Arthas
Sonya
Tychus
Nazeebo (Available after you reach player level 12)
Butcher (Available after you reach player level 15)


Butcher Time!


Hum I'm going by hearth here, dont have my notes with me, but based on past patterns we were supposed to test the monk for free this week? Or is it next week and my memory is failing? Will have to check tonight when I get home.

Butcher second free week is on time. (maybe Johanna third, Leoric second and monk first are next week only and I'm just rememberig incorrectly?).
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4231 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-14 21:43:28
September 14 2015 21:40 GMT
#261
On September 14 2015 22:21 KobraKay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2015 21:50 Radfield wrote:
Week of Tuesday, September 15, 2015:

Li Li
ETC
Arthas
Sonya
Tychus
Nazeebo (Available after you reach player level 12)
Butcher (Available after you reach player level 15)


Butcher Time!


Hum I'm going by hearth here, dont have my notes with me, but based on past patterns we were supposed to test the monk for free this week? Or is it next week and my memory is failing? Will have to check tonight when I get home.

Butcher second free week is on time. (maybe Johanna third, Leoric second and monk first are next week only and I'm just rememberig incorrectly?).


After further analysis the pattern is not so clear the weekly rotations have been close to a pattern for the heroes since release + KT (for first free week and second free week and connection to a new release) but blizzard has been shifting a few here and there making my whole hypothesis failed.

Nevertheless, I expect free Monk next week plus the third free week for Johanna. Depending on the shifts blizzard decides to implemente or not, we maybe get Leoric second free week as well (doubt it tho). Regardless, I expect Monk + johanna OR leoric.
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-14 21:58:50
September 14 2015 21:58 GMT
#262
What probably messes things up is free week only has 1 specialist and 1 support plus when a hero is free the first time they are (always?) walled behind account lvl 12 / 15. But you can't put support behind the account level gate like you can specialist so that these two rules are a little contradictory and might account for why things don't match up perfectly to pattern.
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
September 14 2015 23:02 GMT
#263
Ooh, lots of heroes I don't own. Time to play around with them.
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
September 21 2015 15:10 GMT
#264
Free Heroes for the week of September 22 - 28:
    Raynor
    Muradin
    Tyrael
    Thrall
    Tyrande

    Gazlowe (Available after you reach player level 12)
    Kharazim (Available after you reach player level 15)
Writer
EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
September 21 2015 16:17 GMT
#265
KHARAZIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIM
StrategyAllyssa Grey <3<3
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
September 21 2015 17:57 GMT
#266
oh god gazlowe again why
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
September 28 2015 21:01 GMT
#267
Free Heroes for the week of September 29 - October 5:
    Malfurion
    Valla
    Chen
    Rehgar
    Falstad

    Johanna (Available after you reach player level 12)
    Sgt. Hammer (Available after you reach player level 15)
Writer
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
September 28 2015 22:32 GMT
#268
free chen a week before he is buffed, lol
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
Superbanana
Profile Joined May 2014
2369 Posts
September 29 2015 08:47 GMT
#269
On September 29 2015 07:32 Larkin wrote:
free chen a week before he is buffed, lol


"Hey guys, remember that WoW panda? he's in this game!"
In PvZ the zerg can make the situation spire out of control but protoss can adept to the situation.
Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
October 05 2015 16:35 GMT
#270
Free Heroes for the week of October 6 - October 12:

    Li Li
    ETC
    Kaelthas
    Azmodan
    Uther
    Nova (Available after you reach player level 12)
    Anub'arak (Available after you reach player level 15)
Writer
EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
October 05 2015 17:07 GMT
#271
KAELTHAS KAELTHAS KAELTHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSSS

StrategyAllyssa Grey <3<3
Leolio
Profile Joined April 2012
France633 Posts
October 12 2015 13:41 GMT
#272
Tomorrow's update (13/10/2015) :

- Raynor
- Muradin
- Tassadar
- Jaina
- Zagara
- Nazeebo (level 12)
- Rexxar (level 15)

Expect Rexxar in every QM and on both teams all week long. :-)
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6928 Posts
October 12 2015 14:30 GMT
#273
Already Rexxar time? Nice!
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
October 12 2015 15:05 GMT
#274
time to unpack Nova then and get some free jungle Rexxar.
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
October 12 2015 16:02 GMT
#275
Good thing they fixed Misha AI in time for this!
Cyanocyst
Profile Joined October 2010
2222 Posts
October 12 2015 16:39 GMT
#276
Blah Why Nazeebo again. ..Idk why but i have a habit of not playing heroes i own the week they're free. But i swear Naz has been free like 3 times in the last 6 weeks.
|| Fruit Dealer | Leenock | Yughio | Coca | Sniper | True | Solar | Dark |
Hier
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
2391 Posts
October 12 2015 18:42 GMT
#277
This is me waiting for The Lost Vikings free week:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
"But on a more serious note..." -everyone on this forum at some point.
Superbanana
Profile Joined May 2014
2369 Posts
October 12 2015 18:55 GMT
#278
yay, i can play Rexxar. I even cloned him before actually testing. Had to click all buttons to make bear stun.
In PvZ the zerg can make the situation spire out of control but protoss can adept to the situation.
KrytosSR
Profile Joined August 2015
United States28 Posts
October 13 2015 14:38 GMT
#279
I'm excited to get to try Rexxar but am curious where he fits into the warrior meta? He seems a little gimmicky to me
MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
October 13 2015 15:24 GMT
#280
On October 13 2015 23:38 KrytosSR wrote:
I'm excited to get to try Rexxar but am curious where he fits into the warrior meta? He seems a little gimmicky to me


I think we've seen first hand how effective misha can be at diving to the back of comps during team fights to zone out squishies like KT.
Don't Panic
Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-19 16:30:47
October 19 2015 16:30 GMT
#281
Free Heroes for the week of October 20 - October 26:
    Malfurion
    Valla
    Stitches
    Arthas
    Gazlowe

    Brightwing (Available after you reach player level 12)
    Kerrigan (Available after you reach player level 15)
Writer
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4231 Posts
October 20 2015 12:51 GMT
#282
Yay stiches and arthas

And today is also Artanis day for LotV buyers correct? Should be a fun week if IRL and work are kind enough
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
Garbels
Profile Joined July 2010
Austria653 Posts
October 20 2015 13:29 GMT
#283
Only on NA today. EU tomorrow.
Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
October 26 2015 19:18 GMT
#284
Free Heroes for the week of October 27 - November 2
    Li Li
    E.T.C.
    Sonya
    Tychus
    Sylvanas

    Leoric (Available after you reach player level 12)
    Kharazim (Available after you reach player level 15)
Writer
EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
October 26 2015 19:41 GMT
#285
On October 27 2015 04:18 Valiver wrote:
Free Heroes for the week of October 27 - November 2
    Li Li
    E.T.C.
    Sonya
    Tychus
    Sylvanas

    Leoric (Available after you reach player level 12)
    Kharazim (Available after you reach player level 15)


I'm actually okay with all of these. Sounds like it'll be a decent week.
StrategyAllyssa Grey <3<3
Thezzy
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands2117 Posts
October 26 2015 23:00 GMT
#286
No free Tassadar, Gazlowe or Nova should make for some better QM games.
Playing Terran is like flying down a MULE drop in a marine suit, firing a Gauss Rifle
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
October 27 2015 01:27 GMT
#287
Oh I'm very happy about this free week. 3 heroes I wanna play and one of them I will buy.
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6928 Posts
October 27 2015 12:58 GMT
#288
Predicting lots of Leoric vs Leoric QMs
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Jenia6109
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Russian Federation1612 Posts
October 27 2015 14:29 GMT
#289
Sylvanas is the only specialist i like. But 10000 gold is 10000 gold
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Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
November 02 2015 17:27 GMT
#290
Free Heroes for the week of November 3 - November 9
    Raynor
    Muradin
    Diablo
    Tyrande
    Azmodan

    Zeratul (Available after you reach player level 12)
    Illidan (Available after you reach player level 15)
Writer
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
November 02 2015 17:54 GMT
#291
oh god Illidan

there goes trying to test heroes in QM
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
November 02 2015 20:12 GMT
#292
maybe a good week to practice sonya
Don't Panic
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
November 02 2015 21:19 GMT
#293
against Muradin, Diablo, Tyrande, Raynor ? Goodluck !
MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
November 02 2015 21:24 GMT
#294
On November 03 2015 06:19 FeyFey wrote:
against Muradin, Diablo, Tyrande, Raynor ? Goodluck !


what else would you need practice against? :D

Don't Panic
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
November 02 2015 21:47 GMT
#295
I will go for Muradin I guess. Will prevent freeweek Muradins in my team. And while Haymaker still is nothing compared to Avatar, the upped response on it will allow to have alot of fun with Illidans. Just like this.

Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
November 03 2015 03:13 GMT
#296
Considering how good the last free week was, it is only reasonable that this one would be awful. Time to see which awful Zertaul, Illidan or Diablo can record the most deaths.
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
A_Scarecrow
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia721 Posts
November 05 2015 01:16 GMT
#297
annoying when i own all but 2 of the heroes this week.
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
November 10 2015 02:37 GMT
#298
Week of Tuesday, November 10, 2015:

Malfurion
Valla
Tyrael
Thrall
Chen
Sgt. Hammer (Available after you reach player level 12)
Lt. Morales (Available after you reach player level 15)

https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
November 10 2015 04:06 GMT
#299
Chen \o/ just felt like playing him again and there he is.
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7297 Posts
November 10 2015 05:01 GMT
#300
MORALES! I must try another ranged support, I'm so damn tired of playing Uther.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4231 Posts
November 10 2015 08:53 GMT
#301
On November 10 2015 14:01 Zambrah wrote:
MORALES! I must try another ranged support, I'm so damn tired of playing Uther.


In the last few weeks it seems that I'm getting the 3 games as a support hero quest all the time....now that the medic is available to play, I bet you I wont get this quest :p such is my daily quest luck these days xD

I was hoping for something more SC in the coming weeks due to the LotV launch but it seems it is not to be. Maybe in a few weeks, after people have time to complete the game will they launch more SC heroes to avoid spoilers or something?
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
Slydie
Profile Joined August 2013
1917 Posts
November 10 2015 09:31 GMT
#302
Which other SC2 heroes are there? Fenix as dragoon, a helion, duran or a scv/drone/probe hero?

A cannon-rushing probe or a superfast, fragile wave-clearing helion would be the coolest imo, but all the main sc2 characters are already in the game... more to choose from in Diablo and WoW.
Buff the siegetank
Atoissen
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway1737 Posts
November 10 2015 11:46 GMT
#303
On November 10 2015 18:31 Slydie wrote:
Which other SC2 heroes are there? Fenix as dragoon, a helion, duran or a scv/drone/probe hero?

A cannon-rushing probe or a superfast, fragile wave-clearing helion would be the coolest imo, but all the main sc2 characters are already in the game... more to choose from in Diablo and WoW.

If u go deep into sc2, there are still lotts of personalities that could have been added.
- Arcturus Mengsk
- Valerian Mengsk
- General Warfield
- Matt Horner
- Gabriel Tosh
- Orlan
- Mira Han
- Samir Duran/Narud
- Alexei Stukov
To name a few...
And just to give a picture of the distribution og heroes pr game:
WoW: 22, SC2: 11, Diablo: 10.
“Strength lies not in defense but in attack.”
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
November 10 2015 13:21 GMT
#304
On November 10 2015 17:53 KobraKay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2015 14:01 Zambrah wrote:
MORALES! I must try another ranged support, I'm so damn tired of playing Uther.


In the last few weeks it seems that I'm getting the 3 games as a support hero quest all the time....now that the medic is available to play, I bet you I wont get this quest :p such is my daily quest luck these days xD

I was hoping for something more SC in the coming weeks due to the LotV launch but it seems it is not to be. Maybe in a few weeks, after people have time to complete the game will they launch more SC heroes to avoid spoilers or something?


I expected a focused Star Craft run with LotV launch too, but seems highly unlikely to not announce it at Blizzcon and announce the heroes they did. I'd be shocked if those are not the next 3 heroes to be released and that will run them thru the next month and a half to two months of new hero releases.
Leolio
Profile Joined April 2012
France633 Posts
November 10 2015 14:01 GMT
#305
It's official I hate playing Morales. Especially in QM. Ok I only played 1 game, but damn this level 5 will be a pain to get.

On November 10 2015 20:46 Atoissen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2015 18:31 Slydie wrote:
Which other SC2 heroes are there? Fenix as dragoon, a helion, duran or a scv/drone/probe hero?

A cannon-rushing probe or a superfast, fragile wave-clearing helion would be the coolest imo, but all the main sc2 characters are already in the game... more to choose from in Diablo and WoW.

If u go deep into sc2, there are still lotts of personalities that could have been added.
- Arcturus Mengsk
- Valerian Mengsk
- General Warfield
- Matt Horner
- Gabriel Tosh
- Orlan
- Mira Han
- Samir Duran/Narud
- Alexei Stukov
To name a few...
And just to give a picture of the distribution og heroes pr game:
WoW: 22, SC2: 11, Diablo: 10.


Human Kerrigan! This won't happen but I'd really love it.
Also I'd add Swann (the dwarf in the armory) and Stettman (the scientist) both heroes you actually do play in the funny mission Belly of the Beast.


Atoissen
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway1737 Posts
November 10 2015 14:13 GMT
#306
On November 10 2015 23:01 Leolio wrote:
It's official I hate playing Morales. Especially in QM. Ok I only played 1 game, but damn this level 5 will be a pain to get.

Show nested quote +
On November 10 2015 20:46 Atoissen wrote:
On November 10 2015 18:31 Slydie wrote:
Which other SC2 heroes are there? Fenix as dragoon, a helion, duran or a scv/drone/probe hero?

A cannon-rushing probe or a superfast, fragile wave-clearing helion would be the coolest imo, but all the main sc2 characters are already in the game... more to choose from in Diablo and WoW.

If u go deep into sc2, there are still lotts of personalities that could have been added.
- Arcturus Mengsk
- Valerian Mengsk
- General Warfield
- Matt Horner
- Gabriel Tosh
- Orlan
- Mira Han
- Samir Duran/Narud
- Alexei Stukov
To name a few...
And just to give a picture of the distribution og heroes pr game:
WoW: 22, SC2: 11, Diablo: 10.


Human Kerrigan! This won't happen but I'd really love it.
Also I'd add Swann (the dwarf in the armory) and Stettman (the scientist) both heroes you actually do play in the funny mission Belly of the Beast.



Was thinking about Swann myself, but figured he might be a bit too similar too Muradin, and Tychus's Ultimate in some wierd mix :D
Adding a scientist (Stettman) would open up for some really visually cool spells ;-)
“Strength lies not in defense but in attack.”
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6928 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-10 16:52:10
November 10 2015 16:48 GMT
#307
- Edmund Duke
- Overmind

There are enough ^^

How much fun would a Probe be! As some kind of Push-Spec!

Q = Build pylon
W = Warp in 2-3 zealots
E = Warp in Cannons
Trait = More life/damage/Move Speed near completed Pylons
R1= Recall all Heroes to a Pylon
R2= Summon a Protoss Deathball for 20secs, destroying everything in its path

Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
November 16 2015 18:20 GMT
#308
Free Heroes for the week of November 17 - November 23
    Li Li
    E.T.C.
    Butcher
    Zagara
    Johanna

    Rehgar (Available after you reach player level 12)
    Kael'thas (Available after you reach player level 15)
Writer
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
November 16 2015 18:23 GMT
#309
I've never seen murky on the free week - good thing I just ended up buying him lol.
Life?
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
November 16 2015 18:30 GMT
#310
Damn, I've been hoping for a Murky, Abathur or TLV free week for a while.

Butcher free week is always funny cause people don't know how to play him and run into towers...
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Slydie
Profile Joined August 2013
1917 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-17 09:26:10
November 17 2015 09:17 GMT
#311
Grmf, got all of those to level 5 already, no easy extra gold:-(

Butcher and Kael'thas is an interresting matchup. Butcher charge in, E-D-W-Q-W-boom!
Buff the siegetank
Leolio
Profile Joined April 2012
France633 Posts
November 17 2015 11:02 GMT
#312
I'm waiting for a free TLV week too. It's the only hero with Rexxar I don't have level 5. Shouldn't have skipped Rexxar's free week. Silly me.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6928 Posts
November 17 2015 12:56 GMT
#313
On November 17 2015 03:23 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I've never seen murky on the free week - good thing I just ended up buying him lol.


look at the first page of this thread, ppl QQ'ing cause of murky free week ^^
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
November 24 2015 02:36 GMT
#314
Hello all! The Free Hero Rotation for the week is as follows:

Raynor
Muradin
Falstad
Uther
Nazeebo
Jaina (Slot unlocked at Player Level 12)
Kerrigan (Slot unlocked at Player Level 15)


I'm kinda annoyed about this one because I have all these heroes owned or at level 5 already, but I've been looking forward to playing Falstad again. A lot of assassins/only one support will however make QM continue to be an utter nightmare composition wise. Still really wanting Aba/Murky/TLV freeweek.
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6928 Posts
November 24 2015 10:28 GMT
#315
Looks like some really solid comp if you ask me. I would be more than happy i had sth like this in HL

Raynor
Jaina
Uther
Muradin
Naz/Fals/Kerri
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
November 24 2015 12:37 GMT
#316
On November 24 2015 11:36 Larkin wrote:
Hello all! The Free Hero Rotation for the week is as follows:

Raynor
Muradin
Falstad
Uther
Nazeebo
Jaina (Slot unlocked at Player Level 12)
Kerrigan (Slot unlocked at Player Level 15)


I'm kinda annoyed about this one because I have all these heroes owned or at level 5 already, but I've been looking forward to playing Falstad again. A lot of assassins/only one support will however make QM continue to be an utter nightmare composition wise. Still really wanting Aba/Murky/TLV freeweek.

Aba free weak won't be happening for another year, since it happened few months ago. :D

Murky and TLV should happen relatively Soon™.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Leolio
Profile Joined April 2012
France633 Posts
November 24 2015 13:44 GMT
#317
Fingers crossed for TLV...
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6928 Posts
November 24 2015 14:22 GMT
#318
Aba free week was so fun!

I would play QM with Zera/ Nova all day long, make those learning curves for Aba players reeeeeeaally steep
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Garbels
Profile Joined July 2010
Austria653 Posts
November 30 2015 15:47 GMT
#319
Anyone order a one man wrecking-crew ?
Week of Tuesday, December 1, 2015:
  • Malfurion
  • Valla
  • Anub'arak
  • Tassadar
  • Gazlowe
  • Nova (Available after you reach player level 12)
  • Artanis (Available after you reach player level 15)
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
November 30 2015 16:11 GMT
#320
From reddit:
Free Week Rotation Counters
Malfurion: high, single target burst damage.
Valla: Stuns, long range CC.
Anub'arak: Burst damage, Chain Bomb
Tassadar: Chain CC
Gazlowe: Pick someone else. Congrats, you countered Gazlowe.
Nova: Tassadar, multiple warrior comps
Artanis: Stuns, AA slows. Post-16 get the lube.


I've laughed hard about Gazlowe.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
November 30 2015 18:37 GMT
#321
-________- Gazlowe Nova... gg
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
Cyanocyst
Profile Joined October 2010
2222 Posts
December 01 2015 18:38 GMT
#322
On December 01 2015 03:37 Larkin wrote:
-________- Gazlowe Nova... gg


I don't feel like gazlowe will be much of a problem this week. hes probably my 4th or 5 most played hero, and his survive-ability seems have been completely lost, with the scaling changes.

Also Nova might be his number 1 threat.

Also seems like nova already has a 100 percent participation rate in QM. So not really any different than normal.
|| Fruit Dealer | Leenock | Yughio | Coca | Sniper | True | Solar | Dark |
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-01 18:52:40
December 01 2015 18:52 GMT
#323
just that now you either play Nova or you risk having a feeding Nova on your team that will never hit a minion or be in lane. Which is probably still normal. But these ones will miss every snipe !
Oh and that you will have Gazlows that go full Laynor.
MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
December 01 2015 21:22 GMT
#324
On December 01 2015 01:11 Ramiz1989 wrote:
From reddit:
Show nested quote +
Free Week Rotation Counters
Malfurion: high, single target burst damage.
Valla: Stuns, long range CC.
Anub'arak: Burst damage, Chain Bomb
Tassadar: Chain CC
Gazlowe: Pick someone else. Congrats, you countered Gazlowe.
Nova: Tassadar, multiple warrior comps
Artanis: Stuns, AA slows. Post-16 get the lube.


I've laughed hard about Gazlowe.


I'm not sure that this is a counter list so much as "how to lock down and kill any hero in the game" since his answers to everything seem to involve burst or stunlocking.
Don't Panic
Leolio
Profile Joined April 2012
France633 Posts
December 02 2015 08:52 GMT
#325
On December 02 2015 03:52 FeyFey wrote:
just that now you either play Nova or you risk having a feeding Nova on your team that will never hit a minion or be in lane. Which is probably still normal. But these ones will miss every snipe !


Well, you don't want Nova to be in lane at all ! Yesterday I had one in QM. Honestly he wasn't really bad but man why did he spent so much time solo laning when the 4 other heroes can do it efficiently. If you don't take Abathur into account, and I don't mean mines or symlbiote, I mean auto attack yolo Abathur, she has the worst wave clear in the game. Unless you take all the useless talents which will make you lose.
Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-02 10:29:22
December 02 2015 10:28 GMT
#326
Nova ebola is real. Funny thing is, my last 5 games, my team's nova ended up with the worst KDA ever 5 games in a row :D.
Statistically it is very hard to comprehend.

It seems like best thing to do is picking Nova for yourself to avoid Nova ebola, fight fire with fire

Edit: also my eyes(RIP) really hurt to find where the nova is.
“Are you with the Cartel? Because you’re definitely an Angel.”
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6928 Posts
December 02 2015 14:42 GMT
#327
lol Nova is sooooo much fun! Completely forgot about that (or i was just bad the last time Nova was in rotation)

Getting stacks is my new favourite minigame, right before "how to solo bosses with Artanis"
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
December 08 2015 18:12 GMT
#328
Free Heroes for the week of December 8 - December 14:
    Lili
    ETC
    Tychus
    Sonya
    Illidan

    Tyrande (Available after you reach player level 12)
    Sylvanas (Available after you reach player level 15)
Writer
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
December 08 2015 18:49 GMT
#329
Free hero roster expanded to 10:
ETC
Illidan,
Leoric,
LiLi,
Rexxar,
Sonya
Thrall
Tychus

Tyrande,
Sylvanas
Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-14 19:05:21
December 14 2015 19:05 GMT
#330
Free Heroes for the week of December 15 - December 21:
  • Raynor
  • Muradin
  • Diablo
  • Azmodan
  • Butcher
  • Stitches

  • Lt. Morales (Available after you reach player level 5)
  • Sgt. Hammer (7)
  • Zeratul (12)
  • Brightwing (15)

Writer
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
December 14 2015 22:22 GMT
#331
Yay for expanded rotation <3
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-21 18:28:31
December 21 2015 18:28 GMT
#332
Free Heroes for the week of December 22 - December 28:
  • Malfurion
  • Valla
  • Arthas
  • Kharazim
  • Tyrael
  • Zagara

  • Kerrigan (Available after you reach player level 5)
  • Chen (7)
  • Kael'thas (12)
  • Murky (15)


(Yep, that's Murky)
Writer
MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
December 21 2015 18:33 GMT
#333
gathering power week here we come!
Don't Panic
Immersion_
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom794 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-21 19:53:27
December 21 2015 19:52 GMT
#334
Great news, wanting to try Kharazim as he looks like a fun support. Have 35k gold knocking around and building up to a spending spree! Always been tempted by Chen but worried he's a bit bad.
http://www.twitch.tv/sybar1te Sybarite#2581 - add me for Heroes games. .Play Hots and Overwatch currently. Feel free to add.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
December 21 2015 19:55 GMT
#335
On December 22 2015 04:52 Immersion_ wrote:
Great news, wanting to try Kharazim as he looks like a fun support. Have 35k gold knocking around and building up to a spending spree! Always been tempted by Chen but worried he's a bit bad.

honeslty he isn't as bad as people make him to be, sure he sucks big time vs CC, but if you see that your opponents somehow managed to pick a team without solid CC (which happens more than it should lol) Chen is more than viable

also he bullies Zagara out of lane on Dragon Shire which is hilarious
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7297 Posts
December 21 2015 20:03 GMT
#336
Oh, sweet, Murky! Whenever theres a specialist I havent played rotating in I like to set aside some time to play some vs. AI games where I just push nonstop ignoring all teamfights and objectives.

Haven't gotten to do this with Murky.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44321 Posts
December 21 2015 21:50 GMT
#337
When will Lunara drop in price? A week from now?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
December 21 2015 21:53 GMT
#338
On December 22 2015 06:50 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
When will Lunara drop in price? A week from now?

Yeah, it should be next week.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
December 21 2015 21:55 GMT
#339
Awww snap, Murky at long last...
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
December 21 2015 22:02 GMT
#340
On December 22 2015 03:28 Valiver wrote:
Free Heroes for the week of December 22 - December 28:
  • Malfurion
  • Valla
  • Arthas
  • Kharazim
  • Tyrael
  • Zagara

  • Kerrigan (Available after you reach player level 5)
  • Chen (7)
  • Kael'thas (12)
  • Murky (15)


(Yep, that's Murky)

No stealthers, no Sgt. Hammer and no Raynor. This'll be a good week.
Flash | Mvp
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
December 22 2015 08:18 GMT
#341
On December 22 2015 06:50 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
When will Lunara drop in price? A week from now?

If you wanted to buy her... you are the lucky one

http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/forum/topic/20042826746
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2953 Posts
December 22 2015 10:23 GMT
#342
lol. Good to know. I already though about buying her for 15k :o
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44321 Posts
December 22 2015 12:04 GMT
#343
Haha sweet! :D
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Slydie
Profile Joined August 2013
1917 Posts
December 22 2015 15:37 GMT
#344
Need to level up murky to 5, but I have no idea about playing him, so I am unsure if I want to be that evil to my teammates, mrglglglglgl spam this week...
Buff the siegetank
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
December 22 2015 16:31 GMT
#345
On December 23 2015 00:37 Slydie wrote:
Need to level up murky to 5, but I have no idea about playing him, so I am unsure if I want to be that evil to my teammates, mrglglglglgl spam this week...


This is what vs AI is for!
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
December 22 2015 16:37 GMT
#346
Yep and guides: http://www.icy-veins.com/heroes/murky-build-guide
Immersion_
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom794 Posts
December 22 2015 18:27 GMT
#347
Kharazim is so badass, I can see myself buying him and feeding in HL thinking I'm amazing.
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Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7297 Posts
December 22 2015 19:19 GMT
#348
On December 23 2015 00:37 Slydie wrote:
Need to level up murky to 5, but I have no idea about playing him, so I am unsure if I want to be that evil to my teammates, mrglglglglgl spam this week...


Queue up AI and see how fast you can split push to win. Thats what I do to level my specialists for fun. :D
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
December 22 2015 20:49 GMT
#349
On December 23 2015 03:27 Immersion_ wrote:
Kharazim is so badass, I can see myself buying him and feeding in HL thinking I'm amazing.


Kharazim is the best! The key is just not over committing with your dashes and always saving one to escape ^^. And of course, ALWAYS BE ATTACKING SOMETHING .
StrategyAllyssa Grey <3<3
Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
December 22 2015 23:41 GMT
#350
Murky poisoning...
“Are you with the Cartel? Because you’re definitely an Angel.”
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6928 Posts
December 23 2015 10:21 GMT
#351
On December 23 2015 05:49 SC2John wrote:
Kharazim is the best! The key is just not over committing with your dashes and always saving one to escape ^^. And of course, ALWAYS BE ATTACKING SOMETHING .


We all know that moment, when your Assassins tell you to NOT focus the tank but the enemys DD's....

i'm the heal FFS, i attack whatever the hell i want! lol
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
December 23 2015 17:57 GMT
#352
So Blizzard went ahead and posted the rotation for next week since it'll be the holidays.

Free-to-Play Hero Rotation: December 29 - January 4

  • Li Li
  • E.T.C.
  • Johanna
  • Uther
  • Nazeebo
  • Jaina
  • Gazlowe (Slot unlocked at Player Level 5)
  • Falstad (Slot unlocked at Player Level 7)
  • Tassadar (Slot unlocked at Player Level 12)
  • Illidan (Slot unlocked at Player Level 15)
Writer
Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-04 15:28:55
January 04 2016 15:28 GMT
#353
Free-to-Play Hero Rotation: January 5 - January 11
  • Raynor
  • Muradin
  • Rehgar
  • Anub'arak
  • Thrall
  • Azmodan

  • Tyrande (Slot unlocked at Player Level 5)
  • Sylvanas (7)
  • Leoric (12)
  • Nova (15)
Writer
Leolio
Profile Joined April 2012
France633 Posts
January 04 2016 15:52 GMT
#354
Man I hate Nova free week! At least we can troll QM by either hard countering or picking her and actually not sucking. ;-)
Thanks for sharing.
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
January 04 2016 19:04 GMT
#355
Tassadar week with Nova about.
Immersion_
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom794 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-04 19:18:10
January 04 2016 19:17 GMT
#356
Not the best week, was hoping for Lunara but it's probably a bit early.

Been a while since I played Azmo or Sylvanas and can level Leoric from 1-5 but not massively interested in trying to buy on any of those.
http://www.twitch.tv/sybar1te Sybarite#2581 - add me for Heroes games. .Play Hots and Overwatch currently. Feel free to add.
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
January 05 2016 07:01 GMT
#357
Eurgh, sucky week. I was really hoping for Abathur, Rexxar or Artanis, since they (and Lunara) are the only heroes I don't have at 5+ yet.

As I'm nearing 1500 games it's dawning on me I own practically every hero I want at the moment... Blizz hurry up and release new ones pls, just say yolo to balance and release 10 at once, who cares, just give me more!
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
Aceace
Profile Joined June 2011
Turkey1305 Posts
January 05 2016 07:57 GMT
#358
Hell no. Im so far away from complete hero pool
Dün dündür, bugün bugündür. (Yesterday was yesterday, today is today)
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
January 05 2016 13:12 GMT
#359
On January 05 2016 16:01 Larkin wrote:
Eurgh, sucky week. I was really hoping for Abathur, Rexxar or Artanis, since they (and Lunara) are the only heroes I don't have at 5+ yet.

As I'm nearing 1500 games it's dawning on me I own practically every hero I want at the moment... Blizz hurry up and release new ones pls, just say yolo to balance and release 10 at once, who cares, just give me more!

They gotta keep you thirsty and milk you wallet for $10 bucks just often enough that you don't register that you just spent ten bucks on Lunara.
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2953 Posts
January 06 2016 17:28 GMT
#360
On January 05 2016 16:01 Larkin wrote:
Eurgh, sucky week. I was really hoping for Abathur, Rexxar or Artanis, since they (and Lunara) are the only heroes I don't have at 5+ yet.

As I'm nearing 1500 games it's dawning on me I own practically every hero I want at the moment... Blizz hurry up and release new ones pls, just say yolo to balance and release 10 at once, who cares, just give me more!


Yep, if they don't release another hero soon, I'll be approaching the point, where I can buy every hero for 15'000 gold as soon as they are released, very soon. And I doubt that's Blizzard's intention, tbh.
But... I'd assume right now is the Cho'Gall release week? So, we kind of have to wait another ~3 weeks 'til the next one arrives?
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
January 06 2016 23:00 GMT
#361
On January 05 2016 22:12 ThomasjServo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2016 16:01 Larkin wrote:
Eurgh, sucky week. I was really hoping for Abathur, Rexxar or Artanis, since they (and Lunara) are the only heroes I don't have at 5+ yet.

As I'm nearing 1500 games it's dawning on me I own practically every hero I want at the moment... Blizz hurry up and release new ones pls, just say yolo to balance and release 10 at once, who cares, just give me more!

They gotta keep you thirsty and milk you wallet for $10 bucks just often enough that you don't register that you just spent ten bucks on Lunara.


I've yet to spend real money on this game - but surely if they released a bunch of heroes at once they'd be more likely to get people to spend real money because they want all the new heroes and can't afford them all with gold?
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Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
January 11 2016 19:39 GMT
#362
Free-to-Play Hero Rotation: January 12 - January 18
  • Malfurion
  • Valla
  • Diablo
  • Tychus
  • Artanis
  • Butcher

  • Kael'thas (Slot unlocked at Player Level 5)
  • Arthas (7)
  • Sgt. Hammer (12)
  • Brightwing (15)
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ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
January 11 2016 19:43 GMT
#363
I think /r/heroesofthestorm put it nicely when it was put:

  • Not Nova
  • Not Nova
  • Not Nova
  • Not Nova
  • Not Nova
  • Not Nova

  • Not Nova (Slot unlocked at Player Level 5)
  • Not Nova (7)
  • Not Nova (12)
  • Not Nova (15)

Immersion_
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom794 Posts
January 11 2016 20:28 GMT
#364
Not bad, can play some Butcher who I will never buy while he is 10k, been considering getting Sgt Hammer for a while as looks like a hero who can be devastating in the hands of a skilled user with a team who cooperates. Tychus is dirt cheap and looks reasonably fun but I see flaming when he gets picked in HL. Own the rest.
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ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
January 11 2016 20:56 GMT
#365
Tychus suffers from, "other heroes do the same thing I do better," syndrome.
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
January 12 2016 02:45 GMT
#366
Yea Tychus is just a bit underwhelming but buff incoming.

At least I can get Artanis to 5, had him on 4 for a while. Nothing else to do with this rotation... still waiting for next Abathur week.
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Jenia6109
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Russian Federation1612 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-12 11:04:32
January 12 2016 11:04 GMT
#367
On January 12 2016 05:56 ThomasjServo wrote:
Tychus suffers from, "other heroes do the same thing I do better," syndrome.

Even Morales has a grenade but better ;D
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Talaris
Profile Joined March 2011
Switzerland753 Posts
January 12 2016 11:29 GMT
#368
On January 12 2016 20:04 Jenia6109 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2016 05:56 ThomasjServo wrote:
Tychus suffers from, "other heroes do the same thing I do better," syndrome.

Even Morales has a grenade but better ;D


Tychus more sexy though
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ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-18 14:54:14
January 18 2016 14:48 GMT
#369
    * Li Li
    * ETC
    * Falstad
    * Zagara
    * Stiches
    * Kharazim
    * Nazeebo
    * Tassadar
    * Rexxar
    * Lunara


I'm a bit surprised they would put Lunara out as early as this, but will make for some interesting games for people who don't own her hopping too far into towers.
Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
January 18 2016 17:59 GMT
#370
I'm pretty sure this is the same time that they've been putting all the newer heroes on rotation for the first time, a week or two after the next hero comes out.
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ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
January 18 2016 18:07 GMT
#371
Time to play Zeratul in QM then XD
Immersion_
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom794 Posts
January 18 2016 18:46 GMT
#372
I wonder if it has anything to do with data. I mean, you would hope they realise Rexxar and particularly Lunara are quite bad by now, but they are so rarely picked at a good level of Hero League you aren't going to learn much from the stats there. Conversely at random quick match games you would hope they don't read into things too much.

Fairly difficult to test I would imagine.

Still, Rexxar should be fun to try, already own Lunara and love her but don't get to use her much for fear of at least one teammate losing their shit before the game starts.
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ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-18 18:52:16
January 18 2016 18:51 GMT
#373
Could well just be a way to get information about balance changes, if I were Blizz I'd want actual numbers in the chaos of throwing her out for free rather than the qqing done on /r/heroes etc etc etc.
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-25 12:03:09
January 25 2016 12:02 GMT
#374
    Raynor
    Muradin
    Uther
    Leoric
    Gazlowe
    Kerrigan
    Sonya (Available after player level 5)
    Sylvanas (Available after player level 7)
    Lt. Morales (Available after player level 12)
    Illidan (Available after player level 15)
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
January 25 2016 14:04 GMT
#375
One day... Abathur will be free again...
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
January 25 2016 14:17 GMT
#376
A whole week of "Focus Morales," and bad Illidans XD. It has been a while since Abathur, TLV even longer.

    Hero Last Rotation
    Lost Vikings 36 Weeks
    Abathur 24 Weeks
    Cho'Gall 10 Weeks
    Zeratul 6 Weeks
    Chen 5 Weeks
    Murky 5 Weeks
    Tyrael 5 Weeks
    Jaina 4 Weeks
    Johanna 4 Weeks


SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
January 25 2016 14:47 GMT
#377
Just purchased TLV and having a blast. Its really hard though on QM cus against some comps (Nova!!!!!!!!!) or Maps they suck T_T
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-25 14:52:40
January 25 2016 14:52 GMT
#378
On January 25 2016 23:47 SC2Toastie wrote:
Just purchased TLV and having a blast. Its really hard though on QM cus against some comps (Nova!!!!!!!!!) or Maps they suck T_T

I got them to 9 and I've not yet taken them out into QM even XD. I love them, but I'm of the opinion if I'm not able to keep em alive against AI adept AI, I wouldn't enjoy them in QM just yet.

As a substitute for annoying specialists, I've been playing Murky in QM all the time.
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
January 25 2016 14:57 GMT
#379
On January 25 2016 23:52 ThomasjServo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2016 23:47 SC2Toastie wrote:
Just purchased TLV and having a blast. Its really hard though on QM cus against some comps (Nova!!!!!!!!!) or Maps they suck T_T

I got them to 9 and I've not yet taken them out into QM even XD. I love them, but I'm of the opinion if I'm not able to keep em alive against AI adept AI, I wouldn't enjoy them in QM just yet.

As a substitute for annoying specialists, I've been playing Murky in QM all the time.

What. Lv 9 on vs AI experience gains? You must have a lot of time on your hands......

Though I feel like vs QM its easier. I do a better job of predicting human behavior over the bots :p
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
Leolio
Profile Joined April 2012
France633 Posts
January 25 2016 15:03 GMT
#380
Shall we start a "I'm too afraid to play TLV in QM" ? Would get a lot of members quickly. :-)
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-25 15:36:16
January 25 2016 15:33 GMT
#381
On January 25 2016 23:57 SC2Toastie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2016 23:52 ThomasjServo wrote:
On January 25 2016 23:47 SC2Toastie wrote:
Just purchased TLV and having a blast. Its really hard though on QM cus against some comps (Nova!!!!!!!!!) or Maps they suck T_T

I got them to 9 and I've not yet taken them out into QM even XD. I love them, but I'm of the opinion if I'm not able to keep em alive against AI adept AI, I wouldn't enjoy them in QM just yet.

As a substitute for annoying specialists, I've been playing Murky in QM all the time.

What. Lv 9 on vs AI experience gains? You must have a lot of time on your hands......

Though I feel like vs QM its easier. I do a better job of predicting human behavior over the bots :p

I'm not saying its logical, but I use them as a catch all for any quests they would satisfy, or for warm up games against AI before playing with a buddy. I just feel like I'd be doing a disservice to those who queue with me /shrug. I'll get over my fear one of these days. Stim Pack and having a friend helps too.
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
January 25 2016 16:10 GMT
#382
On January 26 2016 00:33 ThomasjServo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2016 23:57 SC2Toastie wrote:
On January 25 2016 23:52 ThomasjServo wrote:
On January 25 2016 23:47 SC2Toastie wrote:
Just purchased TLV and having a blast. Its really hard though on QM cus against some comps (Nova!!!!!!!!!) or Maps they suck T_T

I got them to 9 and I've not yet taken them out into QM even XD. I love them, but I'm of the opinion if I'm not able to keep em alive against AI adept AI, I wouldn't enjoy them in QM just yet.

As a substitute for annoying specialists, I've been playing Murky in QM all the time.

What. Lv 9 on vs AI experience gains? You must have a lot of time on your hands......

Though I feel like vs QM its easier. I do a better job of predicting human behavior over the bots :p

I'm not saying its logical, but I use them as a catch all for any quests they would satisfy, or for warm up games against AI before playing with a buddy. I just feel like I'd be doing a disservice to those who queue with me /shrug. I'll get over my fear one of these days. Stim Pack and having a friend helps too.

They only qualify for Spec or Win/Play X games though.... :o?

Oh well, to each their own. My QM MMR is messed up anyways so I feel no shame playing a hero in QM after trying him out vs AI once or twice :-)
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
January 25 2016 16:16 GMT
#383
On January 26 2016 01:10 SC2Toastie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2016 00:33 ThomasjServo wrote:
On January 25 2016 23:57 SC2Toastie wrote:
On January 25 2016 23:52 ThomasjServo wrote:
On January 25 2016 23:47 SC2Toastie wrote:
Just purchased TLV and having a blast. Its really hard though on QM cus against some comps (Nova!!!!!!!!!) or Maps they suck T_T

I got them to 9 and I've not yet taken them out into QM even XD. I love them, but I'm of the opinion if I'm not able to keep em alive against AI adept AI, I wouldn't enjoy them in QM just yet.

As a substitute for annoying specialists, I've been playing Murky in QM all the time.

What. Lv 9 on vs AI experience gains? You must have a lot of time on your hands......

Though I feel like vs QM its easier. I do a better job of predicting human behavior over the bots :p

I'm not saying its logical, but I use them as a catch all for any quests they would satisfy, or for warm up games against AI before playing with a buddy. I just feel like I'd be doing a disservice to those who queue with me /shrug. I'll get over my fear one of these days. Stim Pack and having a friend helps too.

They only qualify for Spec or Win/Play X games though.... :o?

Oh well, to each their own. My QM MMR is messed up anyways so I feel no shame playing a hero in QM after trying him out vs AI once or twice :-)


It is 90% me being an anxious bastard. I don't play QM or HL solo as it is, even when I do I tend to just mute the team most of the time.
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
January 25 2016 16:20 GMT
#384
On January 26 2016 01:16 ThomasjServo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2016 01:10 SC2Toastie wrote:
On January 26 2016 00:33 ThomasjServo wrote:
On January 25 2016 23:57 SC2Toastie wrote:
On January 25 2016 23:52 ThomasjServo wrote:
On January 25 2016 23:47 SC2Toastie wrote:
Just purchased TLV and having a blast. Its really hard though on QM cus against some comps (Nova!!!!!!!!!) or Maps they suck T_T

I got them to 9 and I've not yet taken them out into QM even XD. I love them, but I'm of the opinion if I'm not able to keep em alive against AI adept AI, I wouldn't enjoy them in QM just yet.

As a substitute for annoying specialists, I've been playing Murky in QM all the time.

What. Lv 9 on vs AI experience gains? You must have a lot of time on your hands......

Though I feel like vs QM its easier. I do a better job of predicting human behavior over the bots :p

I'm not saying its logical, but I use them as a catch all for any quests they would satisfy, or for warm up games against AI before playing with a buddy. I just feel like I'd be doing a disservice to those who queue with me /shrug. I'll get over my fear one of these days. Stim Pack and having a friend helps too.

They only qualify for Spec or Win/Play X games though.... :o?

Oh well, to each their own. My QM MMR is messed up anyways so I feel no shame playing a hero in QM after trying him out vs AI once or twice :-)


It is 90% me being an anxious bastard. I don't play QM or HL solo as it is, even when I do I tend to just mute the team most of the time.

0_0
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-25 16:31:44
January 25 2016 16:27 GMT
#385
On January 26 2016 01:20 SC2Toastie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2016 01:16 ThomasjServo wrote:
On January 26 2016 01:10 SC2Toastie wrote:
On January 26 2016 00:33 ThomasjServo wrote:
On January 25 2016 23:57 SC2Toastie wrote:
On January 25 2016 23:52 ThomasjServo wrote:
On January 25 2016 23:47 SC2Toastie wrote:
Just purchased TLV and having a blast. Its really hard though on QM cus against some comps (Nova!!!!!!!!!) or Maps they suck T_T

I got them to 9 and I've not yet taken them out into QM even XD. I love them, but I'm of the opinion if I'm not able to keep em alive against AI adept AI, I wouldn't enjoy them in QM just yet.

As a substitute for annoying specialists, I've been playing Murky in QM all the time.

What. Lv 9 on vs AI experience gains? You must have a lot of time on your hands......

Though I feel like vs QM its easier. I do a better job of predicting human behavior over the bots :p

I'm not saying its logical, but I use them as a catch all for any quests they would satisfy, or for warm up games against AI before playing with a buddy. I just feel like I'd be doing a disservice to those who queue with me /shrug. I'll get over my fear one of these days. Stim Pack and having a friend helps too.

They only qualify for Spec or Win/Play X games though.... :o?

Oh well, to each their own. My QM MMR is messed up anyways so I feel no shame playing a hero in QM after trying him out vs AI once or twice :-)


It is 90% me being an anxious bastard. I don't play QM or HL solo as it is, even when I do I tend to just mute the team most of the time.

0_0


I'm more of a one or two ping kind of guy. I just don't generally care a great deal for people getting uppity about things not going their way, or externalizing their frustration.

Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-01 17:10:29
February 01 2016 17:10 GMT
#386
Free-to-Play Hero Rotation: February 2 - February 8
  • Malfurion
  • Valla
  • Diablo
  • Thrall
  • Artanis
  • Azmodan

  • Tychus (5)
  • Rehgar (7)
  • Jaina (12)
  • Chen (15)
Writer
Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
February 01 2016 17:11 GMT
#387
Ugh Blizzard is evil if Chen is free the week Li-Ming is released......
Writer
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
February 01 2016 17:26 GMT
#388
hopefully Abathur and Greymayne will get free weeks this month so I can get them to lvl 5 and have every hero at lvl 5 (except Li Ming)... but it's been so long since Aba free week I don't hold out much hope
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ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
February 01 2016 17:46 GMT
#389
I'm not excited about Tychus being free this week. There are a few Tychus savants I've played with, but on the whole it is mining drills and vampiric assualts for days. So I hope I play against more Tychus than I play with.
Thezzy
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands2117 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-01 18:20:15
February 01 2016 18:15 GMT
#390
On February 02 2016 02:46 ThomasjServo wrote:
I'm not excited about Tychus being free this week. There are a few Tychus savants I've played with, but on the whole it is mining drills and vampiric assualts for days. So I hope I play against more Tychus than I play with.


I play Tychus from time to time (usually with a friend who plays Morales for the Stim + Odin) and the Laser Drill isn't bad.
Yeah at lvl 10 it isn't great, but with the level 20 talent that thing becomes monstrous. Not only can it shoot a target from half the screen away but the damage ramps up. It also allows Tychus to do his regular thing in the meantime, whereas with Odin he has to stun himself first and then just play with the Odin. Also note that the Laser can block a path which is a niche use but still useful at times.

I've also been trying out (just to see if it could work) an AA build with Morales for the stim drone.
You do insane amounts of damage, but you have to stand still to use it, so the usefulness is very limited, but any tank that walks up to you will melt. So hard. Fun build but not very effective. Does melt buildings though.

The other thing I've been itching to try is to go for the grenade talents on 4 and 7 to provide a powerful poke (561 area dmg at lvl 20) that is effectively impossible to deny or dodge. It also does about 1400 damage to buildings for every single grenade (at lvl 20). I think you could seriously poke a Keep to death with that.

The final thing I've learned is that Tychus completely counters Murky. Hard.
Your high AA speed means pufferfish is useless and the combination of Overkill + Grenade will kill a Murky every time.
If he bubbles, Overkill doesn't stop so you can just keep him in range and finish him off as soon as it expires.
Usually it's best to start with Overkill to force out a bubble and then kill him with a grenade as soon it ends.

It's just a shame his E is so crappy, that stunning out his Q effectively denies him hard and that he doesn't have too much in the form of real sustain or burst that would allow him to see some more regular pro play. And his Odin should give him Fortified/Resistant (25% less dmg) for the duration. It's a giant armored robot where he has to self-stun to get into it. It should provide some resistance at least.

Also, his quotes/speeches are the best. Ohhh! Hehehe, that tickles!
Playing Terran is like flying down a MULE drop in a marine suit, firing a Gauss Rifle
MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-01 18:46:47
February 01 2016 18:46 GMT
#391
I've suggested tychus to playing partners a few times in HL in the last few months. In my eyes his features are decent damage, wombo potential with odin, and maybe most importantly a bit of tankiness in an assassin. When I suggest him, it's usually when I have doubts that my partner will be able to stay alive very long(nova), and I want him to get first aid/stoneskin to avoid the burstdown.

Even given all that, though, we're talking like...maybe 2 or 3 games over three months out of hundreds that I play per month.
Don't Panic
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-01 19:05:39
February 01 2016 19:03 GMT
#392
I've been playing a shit ton of Murky of late, and not that I'm in the top tiers of things, but I'm never really concerned about a Tychus. I don't think the situation you described is terribly unique to him, which is my biggest issue with him. There is almost always someone better suited for the job besides him.

The AA build is interesting, especially when his trait is fully ramped though. That'd stack on the base of .67 attack speed he starts with up to 500% adding the 75% from stim drone right? That would put his attack speed over 3 or maybe even 4 per second if he stays alive if my math is right.


I just have a major case of confirmation bias regarding the hero, I saw him run on OGN less than 4 months ago to what effect I forget though. With the right support I totally see it,
Aceace
Profile Joined June 2011
Turkey1305 Posts
February 01 2016 19:18 GMT
#393
On February 02 2016 03:15 Thezzy wrote:
I've also been trying out (just to see if it could work) an AA build with Morales for the stim drone.


If you have a Morales friend which will only protect you go for Focused Attack. (Don't laugh. Let me explain) I explained it already but i guess i have to write it again.

Focused attack does NOT increase your next AA by %75. Actually it places a buff on your hero which will expire after 0.2 seconds after your next attack. Tychus with fully charged minigun + Nexus Frenzy manages to deal 1 more bonus attack. (btw Tychus has highest AA damage in the game.) If you have a friend which stims you Tychus manages get 9.5 (if im not mistaken) aps per second. I'm not that good at maths but if someone calculate how much damage increase with FA + stim i would be a happy man. I saw a charged Diablo died in seconds with that combo (Problem solver deals a lot of damage too)

Tychus with heavy AA focus doesn't feel like a hero. It feels like lightning tower from W3. If you move you lose thousands of damage. (No stutter step ) but if you stay you hit like a truck. So basically you stay a little away from combat, when the teamfight happens you DON'T chase enemy squishies. You target tankiest and closest hero and kill him in seconds
Dün dündür, bugün bugündür. (Yesterday was yesterday, today is today)
Thezzy
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands2117 Posts
February 01 2016 19:32 GMT
#394
I did try out the AA build but on 4 I usually went vampiric since you do so much AA dmg. I figured getting 75% on just one AA from Tychus wasn't worth it but I might have to revisit that now. Since we're talking AA build anyway... would it then be worth it to get the movement speed talent on 16 when the minigun is wound up? Would that allow you to use his AA while chasing? Obviously you give up Stoneskin which hurts but if one is going AA anyway...
Playing Terran is like flying down a MULE drop in a marine suit, firing a Gauss Rifle
MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
February 01 2016 19:37 GMT
#395
Note that it is possible to stutterstep with tychus. It's just that it is difficult to stutterstep.

Also, Focused attack's value is in how bursty it is: old-Focus Attack Zeratul, current Sonya, and current Raynor all enjoy that when you move into attack you do a significant amount of damage on that first hit. Tychus loses a lot by having to have sustained focus fire to enjoy the talent fully.
Don't Panic
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
February 01 2016 19:49 GMT
#396
Do you think that making an adjustment to how Tychus works in that respect would help him out as a buff? I agree with Thezzy in that his scoot on E is just kind of meh, and could do with replacing or maybe adding one stack of his trait after using it a certain je ne sais quoi.
MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-01 20:21:05
February 01 2016 20:19 GMT
#397
I'd prefer a buff that doesn't involve tying focused attack to Tychus being viable. If anything, he's already too reliant on generic talents as-is. (heal, stoneskin)
Don't Panic
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
February 01 2016 20:21 GMT
#398
I wouldn't shed a tear if they went full nova on him, started from scratch.
Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
February 01 2016 20:21 GMT
#399
Don't forget that focused attack is about to be nerfed a bit too.
Writer
MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
February 01 2016 20:24 GMT
#400
On February 02 2016 05:21 Valiver wrote:
Don't forget that focused attack is about to be nerfed a bit too.


which brings up a great reason why I hate having generic talents tied to heroes A nerf to raynor is a death sentence to my beloved sonya.
Don't Panic
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
February 01 2016 20:36 GMT
#401
On February 02 2016 05:24 MotherFox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 05:21 Valiver wrote:
Don't forget that focused attack is about to be nerfed a bit too.


which brings up a great reason why I hate having generic talents tied to heroes A nerf to raynor is a death sentence to my beloved sonya.


To be fair it's clear they wanted to nerf Sonya too.
MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
February 01 2016 20:40 GMT
#402
On February 02 2016 05:36 Wuster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 05:24 MotherFox wrote:
On February 02 2016 05:21 Valiver wrote:
Don't forget that focused attack is about to be nerfed a bit too.


which brings up a great reason why I hate having generic talents tied to heroes A nerf to raynor is a death sentence to my beloved sonya.


To be fair it's clear they wanted to nerf Sonya too.


And yet no one knows why Her winrate in hotslogs is fine, and her win/pick rate in the pro-scene is ok too.
Don't Panic
Markwerf
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands3728 Posts
February 01 2016 21:57 GMT
#403
On February 02 2016 05:40 MotherFox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 05:36 Wuster wrote:
On February 02 2016 05:24 MotherFox wrote:
On February 02 2016 05:21 Valiver wrote:
Don't forget that focused attack is about to be nerfed a bit too.


which brings up a great reason why I hate having generic talents tied to heroes A nerf to raynor is a death sentence to my beloved sonya.


To be fair it's clear they wanted to nerf Sonya too.


And yet no one knows why Her winrate in hotslogs is fine, and her win/pick rate in the pro-scene is ok too.


The focused attack nerf affecting sonya was justified, it would be a mini nerf only anyway. focused attack in general was too good on most heroes though.

The slam nerf on sonya in combination with the focused attack nerf is silly though and might make her a bit too weak.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
February 01 2016 22:10 GMT
#404
On February 02 2016 06:57 Markwerf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 05:40 MotherFox wrote:
On February 02 2016 05:36 Wuster wrote:
On February 02 2016 05:24 MotherFox wrote:
On February 02 2016 05:21 Valiver wrote:
Don't forget that focused attack is about to be nerfed a bit too.


which brings up a great reason why I hate having generic talents tied to heroes A nerf to raynor is a death sentence to my beloved sonya.


To be fair it's clear they wanted to nerf Sonya too.


And yet no one knows why Her winrate in hotslogs is fine, and her win/pick rate in the pro-scene is ok too.


The focused attack nerf affecting sonya was justified, it would be a mini nerf only anyway. focused attack in general was too good on most heroes though.

? Only ones that had it as a viable talent were Raynor and Sonya. Maybe Tyrande.

I wonder if the nerf means we can get Focused Attack back on Zeratul though.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
February 02 2016 00:23 GMT
#405
nah they'll never give a generic talent back once they've taken it away.
Don't Panic
Aceace
Profile Joined June 2011
Turkey1305 Posts
February 02 2016 01:58 GMT
#406
On February 02 2016 04:32 Thezzy wrote:
I did try out the AA build but on 4 I usually went vampiric since you do so much AA dmg. I figured getting 75% on just one AA from Tychus wasn't worth it but I might have to revisit that now. Since we're talking AA build anyway... would it then be worth it to get the movement speed talent on 16 when the minigun is wound up? Would that allow you to use his AA while chasing? Obviously you give up Stoneskin which hurts but if one is going AA anyway...


Even with %15 ms boost Tychus loses some dmg. But when you get also stim ms, damage loss is negligible. If they don't have a nova or zeratul i go for ms. Otherwise i had to go for Stoneskin.

On February 02 2016 04:37 MotherFox wrote:
Note that it is possible to stutterstep with tychus. It's just that it is difficult to stutterstep.

Also, Focused attack's value is in how bursty it is: old-Focus Attack Zeratul, current Sonya, and current Raynor all enjoy that when you move into attack you do a significant amount of damage on that first hit. Tychus loses a lot by having to have sustained focus fire to enjoy the talent fully.


I agree about that any other hero but Tychus. As i said before FA gives more then 1 AA bonus to him. It really increases his damage. Still i don't think Tychus with AA or Overkill competetive enough to play in ladder. But in QM (Morales+Rehgar+Tychus+2 front guys) its a whole different story.

Btw in theory yes you can stutter step with him. But in practice you can't 6.8 aps (no buffs) means you should stutter step every 0.1 seconds. heheheh...
Dün dündür, bugün bugündür. (Yesterday was yesterday, today is today)
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
February 08 2016 14:02 GMT
#407
    Li Li
    E.T.C
    The Butcher
    Kael'thas
    Johanna
    Sergeant Hammer
    Arthas (Level 5)
    Brightwing(level 7)
    Zeratul (Level 12)
    Lost Vikings (Level 15)


Get your Gathering Power here, bad vikings to abound.
NKB
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom608 Posts
February 08 2016 15:47 GMT
#408
Time to finally try Vikings in a game, been waiting what feels like forever for them to be free to play
Some times you just gotta wish...
Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
February 08 2016 16:35 GMT
#409
Vikings are going to get rekt this rotation. Kael'thas, Zeratul on free week and everyone is still playing Li-Ming.
Writer
Thezzy
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands2117 Posts
February 08 2016 18:48 GMT
#410
Oi. Free week KT and Zeratul.
In before KTs that think they can frontline and Zeratuls that dive solo expecting to blow everyone up just like that.
With a bit of luck the KTs and Zeratuls will blow each other up to balance it back out.
Playing Terran is like flying down a MULE drop in a marine suit, firing a Gauss Rifle
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
February 08 2016 18:50 GMT
#411
On February 09 2016 03:48 Thezzy wrote:
Oi. Free week KT and Zeratul.
In before KTs that think they can frontline and Zeratuls that dive solo expecting to blow everyone up just like that.
With a bit of luck the KTs and Zeratuls will blow each other up to balance it back out.

Not before TLV spread chainbombs everywhere.
Thezzy
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands2117 Posts
February 08 2016 18:57 GMT
#412
On February 09 2016 03:50 ThomasjServo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2016 03:48 Thezzy wrote:
Oi. Free week KT and Zeratul.
In before KTs that think they can frontline and Zeratuls that dive solo expecting to blow everyone up just like that.
With a bit of luck the KTs and Zeratuls will blow each other up to balance it back out.

Not before TLV spread chainbombs everywhere.


Assuming the KT gets Chain Bomb.
On a more serious note, I have actually tried out Pyromaniac on 13 and if you get two Living Bombs on different targets you can just cycle all of your spells constantly. Pretty insane damage you can put out with that. Mana Tap on 4 is needed though to ensure you're always on full mana. Still, since I've never seen anything other than Chain Bomb in the meta/pro games, I'll trust that Chain Bomb is still way better, if less fun.
Playing Terran is like flying down a MULE drop in a marine suit, firing a Gauss Rifle
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
February 08 2016 19:42 GMT
#413
On February 09 2016 03:57 Thezzy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2016 03:50 ThomasjServo wrote:
On February 09 2016 03:48 Thezzy wrote:
Oi. Free week KT and Zeratul.
In before KTs that think they can frontline and Zeratuls that dive solo expecting to blow everyone up just like that.
With a bit of luck the KTs and Zeratuls will blow each other up to balance it back out.

Not before TLV spread chainbombs everywhere.


Assuming the KT gets Chain Bomb.
On a more serious note, I have actually tried out Pyromaniac on 13 and if you get two Living Bombs on different targets you can just cycle all of your spells constantly. Pretty insane damage you can put out with that. Mana Tap on 4 is needed though to ensure you're always on full mana. Still, since I've never seen anything other than Chain Bomb in the meta/pro games, I'll trust that Chain Bomb is still way better, if less fun.

Yeah, I just don't see it as being that big of a leap to assume chain bombs, I have started to see some more experimentation with other KT builds in games I've played but it is mostly Pyroblast or Gathering Power on 4 as the variations.
MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-08 19:53:47
February 08 2016 19:53 GMT
#414
On February 09 2016 03:57 Thezzy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2016 03:50 ThomasjServo wrote:
On February 09 2016 03:48 Thezzy wrote:
Oi. Free week KT and Zeratul.
In before KTs that think they can frontline and Zeratuls that dive solo expecting to blow everyone up just like that.
With a bit of luck the KTs and Zeratuls will blow each other up to balance it back out.

Not before TLV spread chainbombs everywhere.


Assuming the KT gets Chain Bomb.
On a more serious note, I have actually tried out Pyromaniac on 13 and if you get two Living Bombs on different targets you can just cycle all of your spells constantly. Pretty insane damage you can put out with that. Mana Tap on 4 is needed though to ensure you're always on full mana. Still, since I've never seen anything other than Chain Bomb in the meta/pro games, I'll trust that Chain Bomb is still way better, if less fun.


I've played around with this build, and the issue really is mana dependence even if you get mana tap. Any build on pretty much any hero which requires lane minions nearby to stay in teamfights is suspect IMO, since real battles don't always take place near minions.

Put another way, you get marginal (5% or so) more damage than chain bomb builds, but get this huge dependence issue on minion waves to fill up your mana pool.
Don't Panic
MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
February 08 2016 19:54 GMT
#415
That being said, I probably WILL bust out my gatheringpower cleave zeratul build just in honor of viking free week.
Don't Panic
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
February 08 2016 20:04 GMT
#416
Christ, TLV freeweek with KT and Zera... that's just so cruel
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ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
February 08 2016 20:09 GMT
#417
On February 09 2016 05:04 Larkin wrote:
Christ, TLV freeweek with KT and Zera... that's just so cruel

The team that dictates the hero rotation just doubled down and said, "If Reddit wants to bitch about something, we'll give them something to bitch about."
hariooo
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada2830 Posts
February 12 2016 01:01 GMT
#418
Support quests are 10x harder without Rehgar on the f2p rotation. More gold = more heroes = using op heroes on a buff patch = ez wins.
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
February 15 2016 13:40 GMT
#419
  • Raynor
  • Muradin
  • Kharazim
  • Anub'arak
  • Zagara
  • Falstad
  • Tyrael (Slot unlocked at Player Level 5)
  • Sonya (Slot unlocked at Player Level 7)
  • Tyrande (Slot unlocked at Player Level 12)
  • Greymane (Slot unlocked at Player Level 15)



Leolio
Profile Joined April 2012
France633 Posts
February 15 2016 14:03 GMT
#420
Wow 1st time that Greymane is free, I really look forward to play him.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6928 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-15 14:47:54
February 15 2016 14:47 GMT
#421
On February 15 2016 22:40 ThomasjServo wrote:
  • Raynor
  • Muradin
  • Kharazim
  • Anub'arak
  • Zagara
  • Falstad
  • Tyrael (Slot unlocked at Player Level 5)
  • Sonya (Slot unlocked at Player Level 7)
  • Tyrande (Slot unlocked at Player Level 12)
  • Greymane (Slot unlocked at Player Level 15)





Greymane but no squishies to pop besides the birdy




Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
February 15 2016 15:04 GMT
#422
Greymane! Excited to try
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Thezzy
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands2117 Posts
February 15 2016 18:47 GMT
#423
Seems to be a decent week. Raynor, Muradin, Anub and Tyrael are all quite forgiving.
Greymane though...
Playing Terran is like flying down a MULE drop in a marine suit, firing a Gauss Rifle
Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
February 22 2016 18:20 GMT
#424
Free heroes for the week of February 23 - February 29
    Malfurion
    Valla
    Nazeebo
    Diablo
    Sylvanas
    Kerrigan
    Tassadar (Slot unlocked at Player Level 5)
    Lunara (7)
    Stitches (12)
    Leoric (15)
Writer
Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-29 20:57:02
February 29 2016 20:56 GMT
#425
Free heroes for the week of march 1 to march 7
    Li Li
    E.T.C.
    Jaina
    Gazlowe
    Artanis
    The Butcher
    Uther (Slot unlocked at Player Level 5)
    Thrall (7)
    Azmodan (12)
    Nova (15)
Writer
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
February 29 2016 21:41 GMT
#426
let's find out if Xul truly stomps the melee assassins
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Thezzy
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands2117 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-29 22:33:45
February 29 2016 22:33 GMT
#427
Butcher, Uther, Azmodan and Nova.
And Gazlowe.

Oh dear...
Playing Terran is like flying down a MULE drop in a marine suit, firing a Gauss Rifle
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
February 29 2016 22:54 GMT
#428
On March 01 2016 07:33 Thezzy wrote:
Butcher, Uther, Azmodan and Nova.
And Gazlowe.

Oh dear...

Someone is giggling in California.
Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
March 14 2016 17:21 GMT
#429
Free heroes for the week of March 15 - March 21
    Malfurion
    Valla
    Tyrael
    Anub'arak
    Tychus
    Sylvanas
    Rehgar (Slot unlocked at Player Level 5)
    Sgt. Hammer (7)
    Chen (12)
    Li-Ming (15)
Writer
Thezzy
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands2117 Posts
March 14 2016 21:00 GMT
#430
Pretty decent, no real heroes that fail painfully when played in QM by new players.
Newbie Tyrael and Hammer are probably the ones who'll die the most.
Playing Terran is like flying down a MULE drop in a marine suit, firing a Gauss Rifle
NKB
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom608 Posts
March 14 2016 21:25 GMT
#431
Free Li-Ming and Chen two heroes I was considering getting, will be nice to try first and see if I like them
Some times you just gotta wish...
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
March 14 2016 21:41 GMT
#432
I'll probably take a break from chen now that he is on rotation.
shin ken
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Germany612 Posts
March 14 2016 21:50 GMT
#433
I'll play lot's of chen this week to save some people from bad chens in QM :D
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
March 14 2016 21:54 GMT
#434
Far and away my favorite tank. Keg is the best ult in the game for me, though probably not objectively.
shin ken
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Germany612 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-15 10:59:59
March 15 2016 10:59 GMT
#435
Unless you're like me and the worst keg user of all time. I think I almost always helped the enemy team more with that ult than my own guys :D.
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
March 15 2016 11:16 GMT
#436
On March 15 2016 19:59 shin ken wrote:
Unless you're like me and the worst keg user of all time. I think I almost always helped the enemy team more with that ult than my own guys :D.

Hahahaha, I've learned to feel out my team before deciding how to use it. I had a stand out team on infernal shrines this week and I could pop behind a couple enemy player and keg them into the shrine and they would just blow them up.

If you get the slow rolling teammates though, I just save it to let them escape or escape myself. I just love making those picks happen.
Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
March 21 2016 17:18 GMT
#437
Free heroes for the week of March 22 - March 28
    Li Li
    ETC
    Falstad
    Tassadar
    Nazeebo
    Greymane
    Sonya (Slot unlocked at Player Level 5)
    Kerrigan (7)
    Cho (12)
    Gall (15)
Writer
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-28 13:51:51
March 28 2016 13:49 GMT
#438
Free-to-Play Hero Rotation: March 29 - April,05 2016
  • Raynor
  • Muradin
  • Uther
  • Azmodan
  • Jaina
  • Diablo
  • Zagara (Slot unlocked at Player Level 5)
  • Thrall (Slot unlocked at Player Level 7)
  • Lunara (Slot unlocked at Player Level 12)
  • Brightwing (Slot unlocked at Player Level 15)


If the patch goes live tomorrow, then these heroes will all be usable in hero league if they are level 5 or higher even if you don't own them (and you have 14 or more heroes level 5 or higher).
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
March 28 2016 14:32 GMT
#439
On March 28 2016 22:49 karazax wrote:
Free-to-Play Hero Rotation: March 29 - April,05 2016
  • Raynor
  • Muradin
  • Uther
  • Azmodan
  • Jaina
  • Diablo
  • Zagara (Slot unlocked at Player Level 5)
  • Thrall (Slot unlocked at Player Level 7)
  • Lunara (Slot unlocked at Player Level 12)
  • Brightwing (Slot unlocked at Player Level 15)


If the patch goes live tomorrow, then these heroes will all be usable in hero league if they are level 5 or higher even if you don't own them (and you have 14 or more heroes level 5 or higher).

Oh thanks for reminding me, I'm going to have to buy Tychus and Gazlowe tonight if everything goes through, otherwise I'll keep saving for Dehaka.
Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
March 28 2016 17:26 GMT
#440
Dehaka and the patch are both coming out tomorrow, and if you'll notice none of the free to play heroes are the ones who got reworks. Sneaky Blizzard, getting people to buy those old heroes.
Writer
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
March 28 2016 17:53 GMT
#441
I think that is good for queue times for quick match since the changed heroes will see lots of play anyway. All your heroes will need to be level 5 to play them in hero league after the patch, so queues for Dehaka Quick Match are going to be even longer than normal when a new hero is released.
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
March 28 2016 17:57 GMT
#442
Forcing the tychus buy from me. Oh well. I'm going to wait on dehaka for the time being. That is a gold purchase hero for me.
Cyanocyst
Profile Joined October 2010
2222 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-29 01:58:07
March 29 2016 01:57 GMT
#443
On March 29 2016 02:57 ThomasjServo wrote:
Forcing the tychus buy from me. Oh well. I'm going to wait on dehaka for the time being. That is a gold purchase hero for me.
Isn't that the least efficient gold wise?
If we use the the scale of (1 dollar = 1000 gold) derived from the 10 dollar price for 10,000 gold heroes.
Tychus is 6.50 for a 4000 gold hero, So 4,000 gold divided by 6.50 = approx 615 gold per dollar. Quite the decrease.

Point being, should buy expensive gold heroes and spend gold on cheap heroes.

...even though tomorrow ill be dishing 15k gold for dehakka .
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ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-29 12:10:18
March 29 2016 10:41 GMT
#444
On March 29 2016 10:57 Cyanocyst wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2016 02:57 ThomasjServo wrote:
Forcing the tychus buy from me. Oh well. I'm going to wait on dehaka for the time being. That is a gold purchase hero for me.
Isn't that the least efficient gold wise?
If we use the the scale of (1 dollar = 1000 gold) derived from the 10 dollar price for 10,000 gold heroes.
Tychus is 6.50 for a 4000 gold hero, So 4,000 gold divided by 6.50 = approx 615 gold per dollar. Quite the decrease.

Point being, should buy expensive gold heroes and spend gold on cheap heroes.

...even though tomorrow ill be dishing 15k gold for dehakka .

I mainly just don't want to pay actual money for Tychus on principle.
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
March 29 2016 12:04 GMT
#445
I'm pretty sure he meant he is spending his gold on Tychus rather than Dehaka, not that he is buying Tychus for real money so he can spend his gold on Dehaka. Early impressions are that Dehaka is not going to be worth spending 15k gold on. The queues are going to be really long for most of the first week, and his power level appears to be bottom of tier 2 at best. He certainly isn't going to be Li-Ming/Xul release level, and he is going to face a ton of Tychus counter play this week.
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
March 29 2016 18:23 GMT
#446
Mewnfarez is playing him in Hero League right now and seems very high on him. Global presence + gank means he's playing his as quite the lane-bully in the early game. Also, Dehaka is super tanky.

But ya, unless you haev a way to get Lvl 5 asap to play in HL, Dehaka queues are going to be insane so maybe not worth 15k for that reason alone.
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
March 29 2016 18:23 GMT
#447
Does level transfer from PTR over?
Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
March 29 2016 18:28 GMT
#448
On March 30 2016 03:23 ThomasjServo wrote:
Does level transfer from PTR over?

PTR is totally separate, you have levels on each.
Writer
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
March 29 2016 18:29 GMT
#449
On March 30 2016 03:28 Valiver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2016 03:23 ThomasjServo wrote:
Does level transfer from PTR over?

PTR is totally separate, you have levels on each.

I'll file that one away.
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
April 04 2016 13:51 GMT
#450
Free Hero Rotation: April 05 - 12

  • Malfurion
  • Valla
  • Artanis
  • Gazlowe
  • Illidan
  • Tyrande
  • Stitches (Slot unlocked at Player Level 5)
  • Butcher (Slot unlocked at Player Level 7)
  • Lt. Morales (Slot unlocked at Player Level 12)
  • Xul (Slot unlocked at Player Level 15)

ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
April 04 2016 13:56 GMT
#451
Another troll with Morales, Butcher and Illidan XD. Free to dive on Morales rotation.
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
April 05 2016 18:10 GMT
#452
feels like butcher has been coming up a lot; maybe it's just cuz I like playing butcher so I notice it more.
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Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
April 06 2016 02:46 GMT
#453
On April 06 2016 03:10 zlefin wrote:
feels like butcher has been coming up a lot; maybe it's just cuz I like playing butcher so I notice it more.


Well, there's 50 heroes in the game, 10 free every week, giving you a 1/5 chance. Considering they practically never give Abathur, Murky or TLV rotation slots, that makes it even higher chance for heroes like Butcher.
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fezvez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
France3021 Posts
April 06 2016 04:18 GMT
#454
Very solid week full of heroes I wanted to try/level to 5.

And as Morales, I get ganged so hard ><
Slydie
Profile Joined August 2013
1917 Posts
April 06 2016 07:21 GMT
#455
On April 06 2016 03:10 zlefin wrote:
feels like butcher has been coming up a lot; maybe it's just cuz I like playing butcher so I notice it more.


Well, there's 50 heroes in the game, 10 free every week, giving you a 1/5 chance. Considering they practically never give Abathur, Murky or TLV rotation slots, that makes it even higher chance for heroes like Butcher.


Not to mention that the newest 5 heroes are also almost never in free rotation.
Buff the siegetank
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
April 11 2016 14:05 GMT
#456
Free-to-Play Hero Rotation: April 12 - 19, 2016
  • Li Li
  • ETC
  • Sylvanas
  • Tychus
  • Leoric
  • Kael'thas
  • Rehgar (Slot unlocked at Player Level 5)
  • Sgt. Hammer (Slot unlocked at Player Level 7)
  • Johanna (Slot unlocked at Player Level 12)
  • Zeratul (Slot unlocked at Player Level 15)
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
April 18 2016 14:20 GMT
#457
Free-to-Play Hero Rotation: April 19 - 26, 2016
  • Raynor
  • Muradin
  • Uther
  • Kerrigan
  • Tyrael
  • Nazeebo
  • Sonya (5)
  • Arthas (7)
  • Tassadar (12)
  • Li-Ming (15)
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
April 25 2016 13:12 GMT
#458
Free-to-Play Hero Rotation: 26 April - 03 May
  • Malfurion
  • Valla
  • Zagara
  • Chen
  • Falstad
  • Kharazim
  • Azmodan (Slot unlocked at Player Level 5)
  • Thrall (Slot unlocked at Player Level 7)
  • Rexxar (Slot unlocked at Player Level 12)
  • Nova (Slot unlocked at Player Level 15)
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6928 Posts
April 25 2016 14:57 GMT
#459
Finally some Nova ownage on my Smurf :D
But almost no easy to pop heroes :/ Only Rexxar, the birdy and valla

Leolio whats the actual Nova build with the most success? ^-^
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Leolio
Profile Joined April 2012
France633 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-25 15:35:16
April 25 2016 15:32 GMT
#460
As if I read all Nova related comments... Ok I do, thanks for asking. :-)

Game plan: no risk, don't try to burst like the old Nova, remember you're useless in fights before level 7 (still participate) and you're OP at 16 with (double) Crippling shot. Don't abuse flanking, you can stay in the backline an outdps pretty much every hero in the game except a good Lunara, if you play well.

Level 1: all are good, but the range on pinning shot is the best (Longshot), and the speed boost when you're cloaked is useful too (Advanced Cloaking). Worst talent is the increase of the slow, and it's still quite nice TBH. The mana regen is nice too but a bit too underperforming IMO (but you feel more free to use your mana on waves or camps).
Level 4: all suck, the "less CD and less mana decoy" (Rapid projection) is better since you always have mana issues, but if you go lethal decoy (don't go lethal decoy) pick the "longer lasting decoy" (Holo Stability) as it'll output more damage obviously.
Level 7: One in the Chamber gives you a critical AA after each ability use. Remember to use an ability (even the decoy), do an attack, use an ability, do an attack... Now you have good sustained damage.
Level 10: Nuke of course. So much utility. If you're very good with Triple Tap AND if you go for the level 20 upgrade on Triple Tap, go for it. But nuke is way better, with a really low 60 secs CD (TT has 100 secs) and combo potential (Zag, ETC, Jaina, Zeratul, Tassadar, Johanna's stun...). And nuke has global range. Global range is always awesome.
Level 13: Double pinning shot (Double Tap), because now your combo has 1 more ability and you'll have more critical auto attacks.
Level 16: honestly, if you still have your 3 keeps by now, and are not too behind in levels, it's GG. Crippling shot, with 2 charges thanks to level 13. Now their tank will melt, and if they don't adapt to your pick (they usually don't notice) they won't even understand why they were fine until now and why they die instantly now.
Level 20: Never used the special cloak escape (Ghost Protocol, cool name) more than 1 or 2 times because to me it sucks and I loved bolt of the storm wayyyy more. Now I take the 2nd nuke, because I play "team friendly Nova" (to me nuke = utility and combo). If you take Rewind you'll have the friggin' longest combo ever. Probably too long, but it's a good choice too.

TBH I don't find Nova very much effective in QM anymore since you cannot burst the noobs (now it's Zeratul's job) unless you're really ahead in levels, or they really suck. But in HL, I don't even understand how she has 50% winrate on hotslogs, she feels like the most OP hero to me. I hope Blizzard don't touch her until my smurf is rank 1 too. ^^


Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6928 Posts
April 26 2016 12:24 GMT
#461
i knew it

Nice that they are releasing some Rexxar buffs alongside the new rotation
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
May 09 2016 15:20 GMT
#462
Free-to-Play Hero Rotation: May 10 - 16, 2016
  • Raynor
  • Muradin
  • Rehgar
  • Kael'thas
  • Johanna
  • Xul
  • Anub'arak (Slot unlocked at Player Level 5)
  • Tyrande (Slot unlocked at Player Level 7)
  • Lunara (Slot unlocked at Player Level 12)
  • Abathur (Slot unlocked at Player Level 15)
MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
May 09 2016 15:23 GMT
#463
Oh fun, abathur free week. Time for a week of asking "Abathur could you please body soak a little more?" and lots of monstrosity picks.
Don't Panic
Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
May 23 2016 17:22 GMT
#464
Free heroes for the week of May 24 - May 30
    Li Li
    ETC
    Sylvanas
    Falstad
    Zagara
    Sonya

    Tassadar (Unlocked at Player Level 5)
    Stitches (7)
    Li-Ming (12)
    Tracer (15)
Writer
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
May 23 2016 17:59 GMT
#465
Looks like Tracer in every game this week
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
May 23 2016 21:49 GMT
#466
Tracer was in pretty much every game we played anyway...
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
MarlieChurphy
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States2063 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-24 06:16:43
May 24 2016 06:15 GMT
#467
Is it just me or is Chromie really underwhelming compared to previous hero releases (when the new heroes are OP on purpose to be nerfed a few weeks later)?

Really the only time I've seen her do good work is when she can land a combo setup with her recall ult.

Chromie will sand blast you, ult you, drop the dragon and double sandblast you again with her Overload talent activated or whatever.

but even then, it's just 1 hero killed or severely damaged and the rest of her kit is pretty shitty.

Compared to all the other mages and long range heroes, she seems to be the weakest.

Can someone make a counter argument for this?
RIP SPOR 11/24/11 NEVAR FORGET
MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
May 24 2016 06:32 GMT
#468
It's not just you.
Don't Panic
JacobShock
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Denmark2485 Posts
May 24 2016 10:34 GMT
#469
On May 24 2016 15:15 MarlieChurphy wrote:
Is it just me or is Chromie really underwhelming compared to previous hero releases (when the new heroes are OP on purpose to be nerfed a few weeks later)?

Really the only time I've seen her do good work is when she can land a combo setup with her recall ult.

Chromie will sand blast you, ult you, drop the dragon and double sandblast you again with her Overload talent activated or whatever.

but even then, it's just 1 hero killed or severely damaged and the rest of her kit is pretty shitty.

Compared to all the other mages and long range heroes, she seems to be the weakest.

Can someone make a counter argument for this?


She seems to be around Jaina's level imo. People just don't seem to know how to play her, last I checked her winrate was around 30% on hotslogs.
"Right on" - Morrow
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
June 20 2016 15:00 GMT
#470
Free Hero Rotation: June 21 - 28, 2016
  • Raynor
  • Muradin
  • Tyrande
  • Tyrael
  • Valla
  • Butcher
  • Zagara (Slot unlocked at Player Level 5)
  • Leoric (Slot unlocked at Player Level 7)
  • Brightwing (Slot unlocked at Player Level 12)
  • Chromie (Slot unlocked at Player Level 15)
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
June 20 2016 15:07 GMT
#471
Time to play Nova and find bad Chromies.
Leolio
Profile Joined April 2012
France633 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-20 15:55:17
June 20 2016 15:49 GMT
#472
From friday to tuesday, all heroes are unlocked. :-)
Seems like Blizzard had some mercy, as no Zeratul, Nova, Tracer, Falstad & Dehaka are free the same time as Chromie.
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
June 27 2016 12:57 GMT
#473
Free-to-Play Hero Rotation: June 28 - July 05, 2016
  • Malfurion
  • Valla
  • Anub'arak
  • Uther
  • Azmodan
  • Artanis
  • Arthas (Slot unlocked at Player Level 5)
  • Gazlowe (Slot unlocked at Player Level 7)
  • Kael'thas (Slot unlocked at Player Level 12)
  • Nova (Slot unlocked at Player Level 15)
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
July 04 2016 13:47 GMT
#474
July 05 - July 12, 2016
  • Li Li
  • E.T.C.
  • Li-Ming
  • Sgt. Hammer
  • Johanna
  • Greymane
  • Kharazim (5)
  • Tychus (7)
  • Illidan (12)
  • Tracer (15)
Leolio
Profile Joined April 2012
France633 Posts
July 08 2016 08:19 GMT
#475
Not exactly the free rotation but a good info. Everyone's favorite 1st ban is getting a price cut: KT will be 7000 gold next week.
It's not like anyone will let you draft him anyway. :-D
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
July 11 2016 17:28 GMT
#476
Free Rotation July 12-19
  • Raynor
  • Muradin
  • Rehgar
  • Jaina
  • Nazeebo
  • Diablo
  • Xul (Slot unlocked at Player Level 5)
  • Lunara (Slot unlocked at Player Level 7)
  • Chen (Slot unlocked at Player Level 12)
  • Lt. Morales (Slot unlocked at Player Level 15)
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
August 01 2016 14:59 GMT
#477
Free Rotation August 2-8
  • Raynor
  • Muradin
  • Nazeebo
  • Tyrande
  • Falstad
  • Kharazim
  • Arthas (Available after player level 5)
  • Gazlowe (Available after player level 7)
  • Anub'arak (Available after player level 12)
  • Zeratul (Available after player level 15)

karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
August 09 2016 00:55 GMT
#478
Free Rotation August 9-15
  • Malfurion
  • Valla
  • Dehaka
  • Kael'thas
  • Chen
  • Xul
  • Johanna (Available after player level 5)
  • Uther (Available after player level 7)
  • Sgt. Hammer (Available after player level 12)
  • Greymane (Available after player level 15)
MarlieChurphy
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States2063 Posts
August 09 2016 01:00 GMT
#479
When is Guldan gonna be free?
RIP SPOR 11/24/11 NEVAR FORGET
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
August 09 2016 14:26 GMT
#480
The best guess would be to look up when Medivh was free rotation for the first time and compare that to his release date. He went free rotation July 19th, and was released on June 14th. That would project Gul'dan to be free in the next two weeks since he was released July 12th.
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-16 01:57:06
August 16 2016 01:36 GMT
#481
Free Rotation for the week of 8/16
  • Lili
  • E.T.C.
  • Jaina
  • Artanis
  • Li-Ming
  • Sylvanas
  • Diablo (avaible at lv 5)
  • Morales (lv 7)
  • Illidan (lv 12)
  • Guldan (lv 15)
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
August 29 2016 15:19 GMT
#482
August 30-September 5th

Malfurion
Valla
Tyrande
Tyrael
Kerrigan
Medivh
Stiches (Slot unlocked at Player Level 5)
Chromie (Slot unlocked at Player Level 7)
Rexxar (Slot unlocked at Player Level 12)
Nova (Slot unlocked at Player Level 15)
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
September 19 2016 12:29 GMT
#483
Free-to-Play Hero Rotation: September 20 - 27, 2016

•Malfurion
•Valla
•Dehaka
•Xul
•Lunara
•Falstad
•Uther (Slot unlocked at Player Level 5)
•Lt. Morales (Slot unlocked at Player Level 7)
•Johanna (Slot unlocked at Player Level 12)
•Rexxar (Slot unlocked at Player Level 15)
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
September 26 2016 13:47 GMT
#484
Free-to-Play Hero Rotation: September 27 - October 04 , 2016

Li Li
ETC
Jaina
Sylvanas
Butcher
Artanis
Rehgar (Slot unlocked at Player Level 5)
Diablo (Slot unlocked at Player Level 7)
Chromie (Slot unlocked at Player Level 12)
Zeratul (Slot unlocked at Player Level 15)

Also:
Muradin's gold cost will increase to 4,000 gold
Diablo will reduce to 2,000 gold
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
October 03 2016 13:10 GMT
#485
Free-to-Play Hero Rotation: October 04 - 11, 2016

Raynor
Muradin
Brightwing
Zagara
Sonya
Tyrael
Azmodan (Slot unlocked at Player Level 5)
Tyrande (Slot unlocked at Player Level 7)
Gul'dan (Slot unlocked at Player Level 12)
Illidan (Slot unlocked at Player Level 15)
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
October 10 2016 14:34 GMT
#486
Free-to-Play Hero Rotation: October 11 - 18, 2016
Malfurion
Valla
Tassadar
Gazlowe
Stiches
Arthas
Kael'thas (Slot unlocked at Player Level 5)
Li-Ming (Slot unlocked at Player Level 7)
Leoric (Slot unlocked at Player Level 12)
Alarak (Slot unlocked at Player Level 15)
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
October 10 2016 17:36 GMT
#487
Yay, time to see if I suck with Allahrak as much as I do with Kerrigan...
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
October 17 2016 15:24 GMT
#488
Free-to-Play Hero Rotation: October 18 - 24, 2016
Li Li
ETC
Nazeebo
Tychus
Thrall
Kerrigan
Anub'arak
Chen
Auriel
The Lost Vikings
Immersion_
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom794 Posts
October 17 2016 17:41 GMT
#489
I miss being excited by these, got every hero I want now...played this game for too long!
http://www.twitch.tv/sybar1te Sybarite#2581 - add me for Heroes games. .Play Hots and Overwatch currently. Feel free to add.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6928 Posts
October 17 2016 18:43 GMT
#490
On October 18 2016 02:41 Immersion_ wrote:
I miss being excited by these, got every hero I want now...played this game for too long!


Haha ye, the only exciting things are now new skins and when the new hero drops to 10k ^^
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
October 17 2016 19:18 GMT
#491
On October 18 2016 02:41 Immersion_ wrote:
I miss being excited by these, got every hero I want now...played this game for too long!


Excuse me? Li Li is free this week...
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
October 18 2016 00:58 GMT
#492
On October 18 2016 04:18 Larkin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2016 02:41 Immersion_ wrote:
I miss being excited by these, got every hero I want now...played this game for too long!


Excuse me? Li Li is free this week...

Someone is ready for adventure.
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
October 31 2016 13:28 GMT
#493
Free-to-Play Hero Rotation: November 01 - November 08, 2016
• Malfurion
• Valla
• Sylvanas
• Artanis
• Butcher
• Lunara
• Falstad (lv5)
• Dehaka (lv7)
• Medivh (lv12)
• Zarya (lv15)
Thezzy
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands2117 Posts
October 31 2016 20:08 GMT
#494
Seems decent enough. Free Vikings was a menace two weeks ago.
The newbie unfriendly ones this time seem to be Medivh, Butcher and Artanis.
I wish they'd just give Artanis his E during his Q already. It was fun in the PTR.
Playing Terran is like flying down a MULE drop in a marine suit, firing a Gauss Rifle
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
November 14 2016 15:04 GMT
#495
Free-to-Play Hero Rotation: November 15th - 22nd, 2016

Raynor
Muradin
Azmodan
Rehgar
Arthas
Tyrande
Nazeebo (Slot unlocked at Player Level 5)
Alarak (Slot unlocked at Player Level 7)
Chromie (Slot unlocked at Player Level 12)
Rexxar (Slot unlocked at Player Level 15)
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
November 14 2016 16:51 GMT
#496
Still waiting for Cho'gall and Abathur to roll by someday. Only heroes that have been FTP that I haven't gotten to 5 yet
Thezzy
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands2117 Posts
November 15 2016 18:32 GMT
#497
Thought you could get Cho'Gall by playing with a friend who has him?
Playing Terran is like flying down a MULE drop in a marine suit, firing a Gauss Rifle
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
November 28 2016 18:43 GMT
#498
Free-to-Play Hero Rotation: November 29th - Dec 5th, 2016
Li Li
ETC
Johanna
Tychus
Sylvanas
Kharazim
Thrall (Slot unlocked at Player Level 5)
Zeratul (Slot unlocked at Player Level 7)
Gall (Slot unlocked at Player Level 12)
Cho (Slot unlocked at Player Level 15)
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
November 29 2016 18:14 GMT
#499
That is really odd, that Cho'Gall is split like that since in theory that means more player are available to queue on Gall than Cho. But I guess in practice it won't matter and 3 levels isn't a big difference.
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
November 29 2016 19:14 GMT
#500
Can you no longer give him away by playing two games?
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
December 12 2016 11:11 GMT
#501
Free to play this week:

Malufrion

Valla

Nazeebo

Anub'arak

Lunara

Dehaka

Rehgar (Slot unlocked at Player Level 5)

Illidan (Slot unlocked at Player Level 7)

Chen (Slot unlocked at Player Level 12)

Nova (Slot unlocked at Player Level 15)


Bust out the buffed Rehgar when the patch drops. Wreck some fools in QM with Nazeebo's stupid damage (full Q build, E build and W build are viable now). Test out if Anub's health buff makes him more viable now. Tier 1 Valla and Malf there for some easy practice. Remind yourself Lunara exists. See if Dehaka's rework really made him into a solo tank. And get salty about the influx of Novas and Illidans and people who don't know how to play Chen.
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
January 02 2017 16:54 GMT
#502
Free-to-Play Hero Rotation: January 3 - 10, 2017

Malfurion
Valla
Tyrael
Kael'thas
Zarya
Sylvanas
Artanis (Slot unlocked at Player Level 5)
Brightwing (Slot unlocked at Player Level 7)
Alarak (Slot unlocked at Player Level 12)
Medivh (Slot unlocked at Player Level 15)
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
January 09 2017 13:30 GMT
#503
Free-to-Play Hero Rotation: January 10 - 17, 2017

Raynor
Muradin
Johanna
Falstad
Uther
Nazeebo
Tyrande (Slot unlocked at Player Level 5)
Rexxar (Slot unlocked at Player Level 7)
Sgt. Hammer (Slot unlocked at Player Level 12)
Ragnaros (Slot unlocked at Player Level 15)
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
January 16 2017 17:43 GMT
#504
Free-to-Play Hero Rotation: January 17 - 24, 2017

Raynor
Muradin
Johanna
Falstad
Uther
Nazeebo
Tyrande (Slot unlocked at Player Level 5)
Rexxar (Slot unlocked at Player Level 7)
Sgt. Hammer (Slot unlocked at Player Level 12)
Ragnaros (Slot unlocked at Player Level 15)
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
February 06 2017 16:48 GMT
#505
Free-to-Play Hero Rotation: February 07 - 14, 2017

Raynor
Muradin
Sonya
Gazlowe
Rehgar
Jaina
Kharazim (Slot unlocked at Player Level 5)
Illidan (Slot unlocked at Player Level 7)
Zeratul (Slot unlocked at Player Level 12)
Zul'jin (Slot unlocked at Player Level 15)
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
February 13 2017 15:55 GMT
#506
Free-to-Play Hero Rotation: February 14 - 21, 2017

Malfurion
Valla
Diablo
Alarak
Sylvanas
Greymane
Rexxar (Slot unlocked at Player Level 5)
Varian (Slot unlocked at Player Level 7)
Uther (Slot unlocked at Player Level 12)
Nova (Slot unlocked at Player Level 15)
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
February 20 2017 14:34 GMT
#507
Free-to-Play Hero Rotation: February 21 - 28, 2017

Li Li
ETC
Nazeebo
Gul'dan
Tyrael
Tassadar
Kael'thas (Slot unlocked at Player Level 5)
Illidan (Slot unlocked at Player Level 7)
Chen (Slot unlocked at Player Level 12)
Chromie (Slot unlocked at Player Level 15)
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-27 13:24:23
February 27 2017 13:23 GMT
#508
Free-to-Play Hero Rotation: February 28 - March 7, 2017

Raynor
Muradin
Falstad
Leoric
Tyrande
Sgt. Hammer
Anubarak (Slot unlocked at Player Level 5)
Illidan (Slot unlocked at Player Level 7)
Tracer (Slot unlocked at Player Level 12)
Valeera (Slot unlocked at Player Level 15)
Thezzy
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands2117 Posts
February 27 2017 13:57 GMT
#509
Tracer and Valeera...oh dear. Gonna be a lot of dead unexperienced squishies.
Playing Terran is like flying down a MULE drop in a marine suit, firing a Gauss Rifle
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