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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19379 Posts
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FreeZEternal
Korea (South)3396 Posts
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lestye
United States4228 Posts
On March 30 2015 08:59 xDaunt wrote: Sylvanas hits pretty hard for someone who is not supposed to be an assassin. She always has some of the highest hero damage in game (if not the highest), but it is not always clear how much of it is attributable to meaningless spam. What is clear, however, is that she has tremendous value in teamfights in addition to being a goddess of siege. I haven't played too many games with her yet, but there have been times where I felt like my contributions to a teamfight were unduly significant -- mostly because of the devastating potential of wailing arrow. Yeah, she seems too strong atm, at the same time her 2nd ultimate is too weak. She does too much damage considering she has an escape imo. Then again, I'm just going off how I feel, I haven't really compared her damage output to another hero that has no escapes like Jaina. | ||
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deth2munkies
United States4051 Posts
I do think she's too strong in that her splitpush is devastating even without the talents to support it. That means that she can take all the dueling talents, splitpush, and 1v1 most anyone, creating a lopsided map that the rest of your team can take advantage of. Her backdooring potential thanks to the passive + dagger heal is insane. The only thing bad about her is her relatively low autoattack damage for a ranged champion. It makes it take a lot longer to kill forts and the like, though you do so with complete safety. | ||
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dae
Canada1600 Posts
So much burst damage/heal/cc. Stunlocking tanks from 100-0. Endless pick offs. Sooooo much fun. | ||
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
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Wuster
1974 Posts
On March 30 2015 11:22 FreeZEternal wrote: Sylvanas, just gotta remember she has evenom which can wreck you pretty hard early game. Another thing to remember is her escape, if she shoots, follow that thing. Well then she doesn't teleport, which is what makes her so obnoxious, your team has to cover both options. But as others have said it's pretty slow so as a straight line escape not that good. But over obstacles or to juke people it's strong. Seen a lot of people die while waiting for the banshees to get somewhere safe too. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
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FreeZEternal
Korea (South)3396 Posts
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On March 30 2015 22:22 FreeZEternal wrote: Is regen master really much better than block? For example with Arthas, I would rather have the block to soak a hell lot more damage in a team fight than having regen master. For someone like Arthas, probably not. For Zeratul, I certainly think so. Regen master allows Zeratul to roam for days without ever having to back. It also lets him take mercs and other objectives safely. There's just a ton of utility there that I have always thought was underappreciated. | ||
Valiver
Caldeum1977 Posts
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Markwerf
Netherlands3728 Posts
Overall I don't ever feel zeratul is worth picking at the moment though, losing his great burst at 16 kinda gimped him. He isn't awful but whenever I might take him I think there is just a better pick. | ||
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Tenks
United States3104 Posts
On March 30 2015 08:59 xDaunt wrote: Sylvanas hits pretty hard for someone who is not supposed to be an assassin. She always has some of the highest hero damage in game (if not the highest), but it is not always clear how much of it is attributable to meaningless spam. What is clear, however, is that she has tremendous value in teamfights in addition to being a goddess of siege. I haven't played too many games with her yet, but there have been times where I felt like my contributions to a teamfight were unduly significant -- mostly because of the devastating potential of wailing arrow. I've been saying that she feels too effective at everything. She has a great escape, she has great pushing and she has great damage. There doesn't seem to be a clear downside to her at the moment. Most assassins/specialists are good at 2 out of 3 of those things and when they're good at all 3 they get nerfed. Like pre-patch Tychus was good at all three, pre-patch Valla was good at all three. I'd be shocked if she doesn't see the nerfbat sometime soon. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On March 31 2015 01:35 Markwerf wrote: regen master is sweet on zeratul but poor on arthas just because zeratul has such a smal healthpool. Zeratul can reasonably get up to %2 hp regen which makes it sweet on him as you can actually creep when you have the talent and just have to get back less in general. First aid does that to some extent too though so i feel it matters how many globes you expect to get and how much creeping you do. Overall I don't ever feel zeratul is worth picking at the moment though, losing his great burst at 16 kinda gimped him. He isn't awful but whenever I might take him I think there is just a better pick. I think he's still a solid pick if for no other reason than void prism. In particular, his ability to set up team raping combos is unmatched. But I do generally agree that he should not be picked in all circumstances. | ||
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Striker.superfreunde
Germany1120 Posts
Something like StarCraft vs. WarCraft, Good vs. Evil etc? I don`t want to go ahead and make a thread (the time commitment doesn`t fit atm) - just wanted to throw the idea out here! | ||
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[Phantom]
Mexico2170 Posts
Except there's no StarCraft warrior. | ||
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deth2munkies
United States4051 Posts
On March 31 2015 05:24 [Phantom] wrote: That'd be cool. Except there's no StarCraft warrior. WTB Fenix. | ||
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Striker.superfreunde
Germany1120 Posts
Maybe a compensational hero could work, but that a little bit try hard. ... good thing i haven`t opened a thread  | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
It'll probably be Artanis when LotV SP hits. | ||
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