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gruff
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden2276 Posts
January 30 2015 01:43 GMT
#5941
On January 30 2015 05:25 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2015 05:09 Tenks wrote:
On January 30 2015 05:03 Wuster wrote:
On January 30 2015 02:23 Arnstein wrote:
On January 30 2015 02:11 Vaelone wrote:
Game does badly need more heroes though, and with this pace it's going to take like 4 years till there's a acceptable amount of them. If the game even has a community at that point.


They'll probably release a bunch at release, don't you think? At least I hope so. (even though I have plenty of heroes to play, and I haven't even mastered one of them)

(although who's the D3 support I wonder?)



My boy Cain


Cain would be a pretty terrible hero. He'd lose a melee combat to Abathur.

He could... ehm... identify characters weaknesses and uhm... pass it along and eh... lull people to sleep with his stories.
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
January 30 2015 01:46 GMT
#5942
My friend got me all excited when he texted me saying you can buy early access, then I asked how much, and he said 40 bucks.

FUCK THAT
Skol
wongfeihung
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States763 Posts
January 30 2015 02:10 GMT
#5943
On January 30 2015 08:26 Kipsate wrote:
You were a templar jondar!

Kormac could totally be the D3 support hero.
Lokian
Profile Joined March 2010
United States699 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-30 02:54:05
January 30 2015 02:38 GMT
#5944
this is deckard cain's abilties:


I have a cool idea for Deckard Cain skill kit though.

Just like abathur, he can stay in town or on the map with similar movement speed as abathur. Most likely town due to his weakness in the beginning, but he should be nearby battles to help out.

He acts as another mana/health pool. He can be carried by other heroes. Heroes getting hit would drop him. Similar mechanics to mounts.

If he stands still he can become invisible.
If he is killed, he becomes encased in cage and the enemy team has to drag the cage behind town(amount of distance away from enemy team) to actually kill him. cage can be dropped/carried and he will be free without dying if nobody picks him up after a certain time. cage gives -movement speed

One of his abilities is like a D3 shrine where you can be god mode or + attack speed or unstunnable or + ability power or fast movement speed. He can set himself to different shrine settings and players would actually have to go to him to get it instead of him casting things on people like typical supports. If he is carried, his shrine ability only buffs the player holding cain, faster cooldown if held.

his quest skills can give buffs to heroes when they kill minions/mercenaries/heroes/buildings. There would be a counter for how much minions/mercenaries/heroes/buildings are killed and once heroes complete quests, they get bonuses. cain decides which quest they do

He has a lot of vision/ward abilities.

has ranged silence. <- something to keep him busy. (BUT I wouldnt mind a hero that doesnt do anything but walk around. remember, blizzard wants to try out of the box ideas)

His ultimate is global silence on the enemy team.


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Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12248 Posts
January 30 2015 02:55 GMT
#5945
I like the Cain "global silence" idea, with voice clip "Listen!"

He also obviously needs an aoe melee range root with voice clip "Stay awhile!"

I think his gimmick should be items. Not like traditional moba equippable items, a little different. If Cain is nearby when a merc dies, it has a chance to drop a random item that any hero, friend or enemy, can walk over and equip for a little bit of +damage or +armor or +attack speed or +movespeed. These items would stack, and they are destroyed if the hero carrying them dies. Cain could get talents to improve the quality of the drops for bigger numbers or proc effects.
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Brian333
Profile Joined August 2010
657 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-30 03:07:44
January 30 2015 03:05 GMT
#5946
On January 30 2015 08:58 Spaylz wrote:
That leak looks laughable. It's mostly sensationalist information sprinkled with bits of semi-known knowledge (Overwatch being "pushed for released" for the end of 2015/beginning of 2016, that's fairly easy to call; also Hearthstone being a huge success, everyone already knows that, it's easy to pull bigger numbers out of the air to make it look like you have information others do not).

Half of the post doesn't make sense. Gutting Diablo 3's team to make a "secret project" set in the SC universe, what? Senior executive being laid off over HotS' supposedly poor forecast success? That's literally unbelievable. I don't think Blizzard is the type of company to lay off senior employees for such trivial reasons. That is such a clickbait thing to say.


Am I the only one that actually finds the Overwatch release date a bit... optimistic? That's like... 10 months from now. I always imagined it would be much longer before its release.

Diablo 3's beta started in like September 2011 and the game released in May 2012. SC2's beta started in February 2010 and the game released in July. Heart of the Swarm's beta started in September 2012 and released March 2013.

Most of their games have a 5-6 month beta testing phase. Considering Overwatch is a totally new IP and genre from Blizzard, I'd be really surprised if the beta phase wasn't on the longer side. That means we should be getting closed beta in ~4 months. Seems unexpectedly soon. It also means that the next Blizzcon will probably be hyping Overwatch's upcoming release.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
January 30 2015 03:11 GMT
#5947
On January 30 2015 12:05 Brian333 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2015 08:58 Spaylz wrote:
That leak looks laughable. It's mostly sensationalist information sprinkled with bits of semi-known knowledge (Overwatch being "pushed for released" for the end of 2015/beginning of 2016, that's fairly easy to call; also Hearthstone being a huge success, everyone already knows that, it's easy to pull bigger numbers out of the air to make it look like you have information others do not).

Half of the post doesn't make sense. Gutting Diablo 3's team to make a "secret project" set in the SC universe, what? Senior executive being laid off over HotS' supposedly poor forecast success? That's literally unbelievable. I don't think Blizzard is the type of company to lay off senior employees for such trivial reasons. That is such a clickbait thing to say.


Am I the only one that actually finds the Overwatch release date a bit... optimistic? That's like... 10 months from now. I always imagined it would be much longer before its release.

Diablo 3's beta started in like September 2011 and the game released in May 2012. SC2's beta started in February 2010 and the game released in July. Heart of the Swarm's beta started in September 2012 and released March 2013.

Most of their games have a 5-6 month beta testing phase. Considering Overwatch is a totally new IP and genre from Blizzard, I'd be really surprised if the beta phase wasn't on the longer side. That means we should be getting closed beta in ~4 months. Seems unexpectedly soon. It also means that the next Blizzcon will probably be hyping Overwatch's upcoming release.


A game in beta these days might as well be called release.
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pachi
Profile Joined October 2006
Melbourne5338 Posts
January 30 2015 03:24 GMT
#5948
On January 30 2015 11:10 wongfeihung wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2015 08:26 Kipsate wrote:
You were a templar jondar!

Kormac could totally be the D3 support hero.

I would've preferred D3 followers like Kormac rather than making new characters out of the playable D3 heroes
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[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
January 30 2015 03:45 GMT
#5949
one thing to know the leak is fake is that Blizzard didn't fire jay wilson after d3, hes still working at blizz, so why the fuck would they fire people on hots? lol

Also yeah, i agree that kormac and the other guy... the archer, could be very cool. altough the bowmen is less probable cause there is valla, he would be cool because all of his phrases, imagin him trying to seduce kerrigan or nova lol.
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Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-30 06:11:43
January 30 2015 06:08 GMT
#5950
On January 30 2015 12:11 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2015 12:05 Brian333 wrote:
On January 30 2015 08:58 Spaylz wrote:
That leak looks laughable. It's mostly sensationalist information sprinkled with bits of semi-known knowledge (Overwatch being "pushed for released" for the end of 2015/beginning of 2016, that's fairly easy to call; also Hearthstone being a huge success, everyone already knows that, it's easy to pull bigger numbers out of the air to make it look like you have information others do not).

Half of the post doesn't make sense. Gutting Diablo 3's team to make a "secret project" set in the SC universe, what? Senior executive being laid off over HotS' supposedly poor forecast success? That's literally unbelievable. I don't think Blizzard is the type of company to lay off senior employees for such trivial reasons. That is such a clickbait thing to say.


Am I the only one that actually finds the Overwatch release date a bit... optimistic? That's like... 10 months from now. I always imagined it would be much longer before its release.

Diablo 3's beta started in like September 2011 and the game released in May 2012. SC2's beta started in February 2010 and the game released in July. Heart of the Swarm's beta started in September 2012 and released March 2013.

Most of their games have a 5-6 month beta testing phase. Considering Overwatch is a totally new IP and genre from Blizzard, I'd be really surprised if the beta phase wasn't on the longer side. That means we should be getting closed beta in ~4 months. Seems unexpectedly soon. It also means that the next Blizzcon will probably be hyping Overwatch's upcoming release.


A game in beta these days might as well be called release.


Especially a f2p game (and the fact that Blizzard has Founders Packs up for sale at Gamestop kinda underscores this point.


On January 30 2015 12:45 [SXG]Phantom wrote:
one thing to know the leak is fake is that Blizzard didn't fire jay wilson after d3, hes still working at blizz, so why the fuck would they fire people on hots? lol

Also yeah, i agree that kormac and the other guy... the archer, could be very cool. altough the bowmen is less probable cause there is valla, he would be cool because all of his phrases, imagin him trying to seduce kerrigan or nova lol.


I was thinking the same thing. Blizzard is pretty loyal to their employees, HotS would have to actually come out first before they start axing people no? I feel like this leak (if valid) is just someone without that much actual insight but is aware of the company rumors floating around.

Edit: like the Overwatch announcement prediction, just about anyone at Blizzard would know that stuff ahead of time just being around the office. Especially since it the announcement was at Blizzcon not some random date.
Esoterikk
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1256 Posts
January 30 2015 09:07 GMT
#5951
Also considering I can't see Hots not being more profitable than Sc2.
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-30 10:21:13
January 30 2015 09:13 GMT
#5952
Man, you ever have one of those nights?

First two games 4v5, third game everyone's around but I'm the only one higher than lvl 10 and the team plays accordingly newbish (eg. our two tanks pushing lanes instead of collecting skulls, despite this being golem #3 so they damn well should know how the map works).

I was probably more on tilt than I'd like to admit as when I finally got into real matches/teams I still played like crap.

And this is the second time the system has put me on a team without tanks against a team with 3 tanks... ya it looks good early but late game you just can't stay alive long enough to kill anything.

Edit: ok, finally played a good game, washes the bad start out a bit. Amazingly I actually went 4-1 after that awful start to my night.
Big G
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy835 Posts
January 30 2015 12:02 GMT
#5953
http://day9.tv/d/Day9/day9s-day-off-heroes-of-the-storm_2/

Klowney
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden277 Posts
January 30 2015 16:01 GMT
#5954
Played it for awhile now and the game is unplayble solo.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
January 30 2015 16:07 GMT
#5955
On January 31 2015 01:01 Klowney wrote:
Played it for awhile now and the game is unplayble solo.

I play almost all my games solo queue, and I wouldn't say that it's unplayable. There will be stretches where you get one team of assclowns after another, but there will also be stretches were you get a lot of competent teams. Once you're good enough, there's no reason that you won't be able to carry most of your teams to victory and get to the highest ranks.
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-30 16:51:58
January 30 2015 16:51 GMT
#5956
The game can be pretty wretched solo, especially when you match with whole teams who make absurd decisions. Either you have to just ignore the absolute horrible team strategy and go with the flow and enjoy other parts of the game, or you have to take charge. But caring about team strategy and not doing anything about it is definitely miserable. The teams I get matched with have essentially no concept of trading. Every single decision is "group and contest." Blackheart's Bay: enemy team is higher level and has been winning team fights, the boss at the top and bruiser mercs at the bottom are both uncapped, enemy team is near boss, my team is near bruisers. 95% of my teams run across the map just in time to see the boss capped, trickle in and die. And if you don't follow them, you get criticized. These types of non-decisions are made constantly and are seen as the proper way to play -- "it's a team game" and "you have to actually do the objectives" being the mantras justifying the brainlessness. You gotta rise above it or learn to lead every game or just not care. Or queue with friends.

Personally I've carved out some fun from solo queuing nonetheless. But it very easily can slip into misery.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
January 30 2015 16:59 GMT
#5957
Frankly, the easiest way to manage a team full of newbs is to play a hero that can pick off enemy heroes. Stitches, Zeratul, Nova, Kerrigan, Thrall etc. If you can turn the game into a perpetual 5v4, you're going to win. At lower levels, it is really easy to pick players off because they are always out of position.
FreeZEternal
Profile Joined January 2003
Korea (South)3396 Posts
January 30 2015 18:09 GMT
#5958
Solo Q is miserable guys. It's starting to get a point where ppl just leave the game (Raged quit) and you are SOL.
Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
January 30 2015 18:40 GMT
#5959
On January 31 2015 03:09 FreeZEternal wrote:
Solo Q is miserable guys. It's starting to get a point where ppl just leave the game (Raged quit) and you are SOL.

The thing is, the game encourages you to grind games mindlessly (for example play 8 games), so naturally people are going to play and do other things on the side..
GinyuSC
Profile Joined January 2015
United States63 Posts
January 30 2015 18:58 GMT
#5960
Thoughts on Anub'arak?
You're so rood.
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