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Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
October 19 2013 17:31 GMT
#521
On October 20 2013 02:24 mishimaBeef wrote:
blizzard is the best... first they slap hearthstone on the table to duke it out with MTG and now we will see another epic game step in the ring to fight, this time to go head-to-head with the giant that is dota


The giant is League of Legends. Numbers wise, it will be league of legends for a long long time.
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
algue
Profile Joined July 2011
France1436 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-19 17:44:05
October 19 2013 17:43 GMT
#522
I really, REALLY hope the ingame graphism won't look like that :
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
rly ?
GizmoPT
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal3040 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-19 17:50:34
October 19 2013 17:49 GMT
#523
On October 20 2013 02:43 algue wrote:
I really, REALLY hope the ingame graphism won't look like that :
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


are you even trying ?

was like this 2 years ago

http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/original/0/30/2005421-characterselect_witchdoctor_copy.jpg
http://img.online-station.net/_news/2013/0128/3_01.jpg
Snipers Promod & Micro Arena Creator in SC2 Arcade - Portuguese Community Admin for SC2, HotS and Overwatch - Ex-Portugal SC2 Team Manager, Ex- Copenhagen Wolves and Grow uP Gaming Manager in SC2. Just Playing games now!
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
October 19 2013 17:54 GMT
#524
On October 20 2013 02:43 algue wrote:
I really, REALLY hope the ingame graphism won't look like that :
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


It's better graphics than LoL at least.
rip passion
dizzy101
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2066 Posts
October 19 2013 17:58 GMT
#525
This product will so utterly fail, it's not funny anymore

With the stiff competition in the Dota-sphere, you can't do it half-assed
papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
October 19 2013 17:59 GMT
#526
On October 20 2013 02:10 Deathstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2013 02:03 GizmoPT wrote:
On October 20 2013 01:51 Deathstar wrote:
This game sounds far too much like another dying game, HoN (=Heroes of Newarth). I don't like this new name, and I feel Blizzard All-Stars would have been better, but I guess Blizzard did the calculations as to which title will be better.

edit: then again, maybe they didn't. We'll see


ye because league of legends is the most amazing name ever right ?... names dont matter gameplay does


If names don't matter why change it? Why did Blizzard choose HotS? It obviously does matter. I don't think gameplay really matters in terms of Blizzard wanting to sell this game to the consumers.


They changed it because people were calling the game Balls.
Noobity
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States871 Posts
October 19 2013 18:02 GMT
#527
On October 20 2013 02:54 Deathstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2013 02:43 algue wrote:
I really, REALLY hope the ingame graphism won't look like that :
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


It's better graphics than LoL at least.


Dunno why people shit on LoL's graphics. I like them, and find them easier to follow than DotA's for instance. I can't stand the graphics in DotA, colors are way too muted, models are too detailed but too small for those details to matter, and I'm bored by the character design.

Of course, they all pale in comparison to Carbot's animations. Would be the greatest moba of all time with that graphics direction.
My name is Mike, and statistically, yours is not.
mishimaBeef
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2259 Posts
October 19 2013 18:04 GMT
#528
On October 20 2013 02:59 papaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2013 02:10 Deathstar wrote:
On October 20 2013 02:03 GizmoPT wrote:
On October 20 2013 01:51 Deathstar wrote:
This game sounds far too much like another dying game, HoN (=Heroes of Newarth). I don't like this new name, and I feel Blizzard All-Stars would have been better, but I guess Blizzard did the calculations as to which title will be better.

edit: then again, maybe they didn't. We'll see


ye because league of legends is the most amazing name ever right ?... names dont matter gameplay does


If names don't matter why change it? Why did Blizzard choose HotS? It obviously does matter. I don't think gameplay really matters in terms of Blizzard wanting to sell this game to the consumers.


They changed it because people were calling the game Balls.


LOL... B(lizzard) ALL S(tars)
Dare to live the life you have dreamed for yourself. Go forward and make your dreams come true. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
lamprey1
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada919 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-19 18:14:14
October 19 2013 18:12 GMT
#529
On October 20 2013 02:58 dizzy101 wrote:
This product will so utterly fail, it's not funny anymore

With the stiff competition in the Dota-sphere, you can't do it half-assed

great point.

Blizzard is famous for all their half-assed products.
like Warcraft 3 , WoW, Starcraft. just pure shovel-ware... all of it.

Blizzard just jams as many half-made half-ready products out the door as possible. They are all about quantity over quality.

I mean look out how much better CoH2 and Rome2 are than SC2. Two really polished games versus SC2. which is a glitch-fest.
Look at all the MMOs that are a thousand times better than WoW.

No wonder Blizzard's games only last 10 or 15 years tops... in an industry where popular titles are played for 30, 40 or 50 years.

Mike Morhaime should be ashamed of himself.
KelianQatar
Profile Joined December 2012
303 Posts
October 19 2013 18:15 GMT
#530
Hey wanna play some space invaders tonight?
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
October 19 2013 18:17 GMT
#531
On October 20 2013 03:12 lamprey1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2013 02:58 dizzy101 wrote:
This product will so utterly fail, it's not funny anymore

With the stiff competition in the Dota-sphere, you can't do it half-assed

great point.

Blizzard is famous for all their half-assed products.
like Warcraft 3 , WoW, Starcraft. just pure shovel-ware... all of it.

Blizzard just jams as many half-made half-ready products out the door as possible. They are all about quantity over quality.

I mean look out how much better CoH2 and Rome2 are than SC2. Two really polished games versus SC2. which is a glitch-fest.
Look at all the MMOs that are a thousand times better than WoW.

No wonder Blizzard's games only last 10 or 15 years tops... in an industry where popular titles are played for 30, 40 or 50 years.

Mike Morhaime should be ashamed of himself.


TBH Blizzard has been the establishment for quality for so long that it's just easy to hate on them now that they've made a few blunders, why people would WANT games to fail I really have no clue, why would you want to have less fun than you would other wise be having exactly. Makes no sense to me.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 19 2013 18:19 GMT
#532
On October 20 2013 03:12 lamprey1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2013 02:58 dizzy101 wrote:
This product will so utterly fail, it's not funny anymore

With the stiff competition in the Dota-sphere, you can't do it half-assed

great point.

Blizzard is famous for all their half-assed products.
like Warcraft 3 , WoW, Starcraft. just pure shovel-ware... all of it.

Blizzard just jams as many half-made half-ready products out the door as possible. They are all about quantity over quality.

I mean look out how much better CoH2 and Rome2 are than SC2. Two really polished games versus SC2. which is a glitch-fest.
Look at all the MMOs that are a thousand times better than WoW.

No wonder Blizzard's games only last 10 or 15 years tops... in an industry where popular titles are played for 30, 40 or 50 years.

Mike Morhaime should be ashamed of himself.

Thanks, this post made me chuckle. Good one!
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
GizmoPT
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal3040 Posts
October 19 2013 18:19 GMT
#533
starting to think "someone" is paying trolls to bring games down xD
Snipers Promod & Micro Arena Creator in SC2 Arcade - Portuguese Community Admin for SC2, HotS and Overwatch - Ex-Portugal SC2 Team Manager, Ex- Copenhagen Wolves and Grow uP Gaming Manager in SC2. Just Playing games now!
Everlong
Profile Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1973 Posts
October 19 2013 18:22 GMT
#534
On October 20 2013 03:12 lamprey1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2013 02:58 dizzy101 wrote:
This product will so utterly fail, it's not funny anymore

With the stiff competition in the Dota-sphere, you can't do it half-assed

great point.

Blizzard is famous for all their half-assed products.
like Warcraft 3 , WoW, Starcraft. just pure shovel-ware... all of it.

Blizzard just jams as many half-made half-ready products out the door as possible. They are all about quantity over quality.

I mean look out how much better CoH2 and Rome2 are than SC2. Two really polished games versus SC2. which is a glitch-fest.
Look at all the MMOs that are a thousand times better than WoW.

No wonder Blizzard's games only last 10 or 15 years tops... in an industry where popular titles are played for 30, 40 or 50 years.

Mike Morhaime should be ashamed of himself.


I agree, there are way more accomplished companies then Blizzard in terms of game development.
TheRabidDeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States3806 Posts
October 19 2013 18:25 GMT
#535
On October 20 2013 03:17 Caihead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2013 03:12 lamprey1 wrote:
On October 20 2013 02:58 dizzy101 wrote:
This product will so utterly fail, it's not funny anymore

With the stiff competition in the Dota-sphere, you can't do it half-assed

great point.

Blizzard is famous for all their half-assed products.
like Warcraft 3 , WoW, Starcraft. just pure shovel-ware... all of it.

Blizzard just jams as many half-made half-ready products out the door as possible. They are all about quantity over quality.

I mean look out how much better CoH2 and Rome2 are than SC2. Two really polished games versus SC2. which is a glitch-fest.
Look at all the MMOs that are a thousand times better than WoW.

No wonder Blizzard's games only last 10 or 15 years tops... in an industry where popular titles are played for 30, 40 or 50 years.

Mike Morhaime should be ashamed of himself.


TBH Blizzard has been the establishment for quality for so long that it's just easy to hate on them now that they've made a few blunders, why people would WANT games to fail I really have no clue, why would you want to have less fun than you would other wise be having exactly. Makes no sense to me.

99% of developers would love to "blunder" like Blizzard. Despite the hate that they get:
Diablo 3 is the best modern ARPG out there. The only one comparable is D2:LoD And by best, I mean solid graphics and incredibly good gameplay. It can be improved, yes... but it is seriously top of the charts.
SC2 is the best modern RTS out there. The only comparable one is SC:BW
WoW, despite being almost a decade old, is still pretty much the best MMO out there
Now, Hearthstone is pretty much the best CCG out there.

If any of these are considered blunders, sign me up to blunder like blizz.

People hate on Blizz because it is easy to do. There is no logical reason for it. We just live in a modern society of people that bitch about anything that isn't exactly how they see it and want it.
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
October 19 2013 18:39 GMT
#536
On October 20 2013 03:02 Noobity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2013 02:54 Deathstar wrote:
On October 20 2013 02:43 algue wrote:
I really, REALLY hope the ingame graphism won't look like that :
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


It's better graphics than LoL at least.


Dunno why people shit on LoL's graphics. I like them, and find them easier to follow than DotA's for instance. I can't stand the graphics in DotA, colors are way too muted, models are too detailed but too small for those details to matter, and I'm bored by the character design.

Of course, they all pale in comparison to Carbot's animations. Would be the greatest moba of all time with that graphics direction.

dunno, for me its complete opposite, cant see shit in LoL and in dota 2 everything is crystal clear to me ...
yo
phodacbiet
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1740 Posts
October 19 2013 18:42 GMT
#537
On October 20 2013 03:12 lamprey1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2013 02:58 dizzy101 wrote:
This product will so utterly fail, it's not funny anymore

With the stiff competition in the Dota-sphere, you can't do it half-assed

great point.

Blizzard is famous for all their half-assed products.
like Warcraft 3 , WoW, Starcraft. just pure shovel-ware... all of it.

Blizzard just jams as many half-made half-ready products out the door as possible. They are all about quantity over quality.

I mean look out how much better CoH2 and Rome2 are than SC2. Two really polished games versus SC2. which is a glitch-fest.
Look at all the MMOs that are a thousand times better than WoW.

No wonder Blizzard's games only last 10 or 15 years tops... in an industry where popular titles are played for 30, 40 or 50 years.

Mike Morhaime should be ashamed of himself.


Diablo 3, mist of pandaria, Heart of the swarm <- recent games

The games you listed were made by Blizzard before they were bought out and have their game devs replaced.
LastDance
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
New Zealand510 Posts
October 19 2013 18:42 GMT
#538
cool, i might actually give this moba a try.
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
October 19 2013 18:43 GMT
#539
On October 20 2013 03:42 phodacbiet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2013 03:12 lamprey1 wrote:
On October 20 2013 02:58 dizzy101 wrote:
This product will so utterly fail, it's not funny anymore

With the stiff competition in the Dota-sphere, you can't do it half-assed

great point.

Blizzard is famous for all their half-assed products.
like Warcraft 3 , WoW, Starcraft. just pure shovel-ware... all of it.

Blizzard just jams as many half-made half-ready products out the door as possible. They are all about quantity over quality.

I mean look out how much better CoH2 and Rome2 are than SC2. Two really polished games versus SC2. which is a glitch-fest.
Look at all the MMOs that are a thousand times better than WoW.

No wonder Blizzard's games only last 10 or 15 years tops... in an industry where popular titles are played for 30, 40 or 50 years.

Mike Morhaime should be ashamed of himself.


Diablo 3, mist of pandaria, Heart of the swarm <- recent games

The games you listed were made by Blizzard before they were bought out and have their game devs replaced.

i thought hots was awesome and way bettter then WoL ;; havnt playd d3, and WoW thou
yo
VArsovskiSC
Profile Joined July 2010
Macedonia563 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-19 18:59:29
October 19 2013 18:47 GMT
#540
On October 20 2013 03:12 lamprey1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2013 02:58 dizzy101 wrote:
This product will so utterly fail, it's not funny anymore

With the stiff competition in the Dota-sphere, you can't do it half-assed

great point.

Blizzard is famous for all their half-assed products.
like Warcraft 3 , WoW, Starcraft. just pure shovel-ware... all of it.

Blizzard just jams as many half-made half-ready products out the door as possible. They are all about quantity over quality.

I mean look out how much better CoH2 and Rome2 are than SC2. Two really polished games versus SC2. which is a glitch-fest.
Look at all the MMOs that are a thousand times better than WoW.

No wonder Blizzard's games only last 10 or 15 years tops... in an industry where popular titles are played for 30, 40 or 50 years.

Mike Morhaime should be ashamed of himself.


May I remind you guys that they created WC2 back in the day the most fun RTS at the time.. Then they created the original SC, and then after BW was by far, and still is in a way - the most fun RTS game..

You say about Rome2 and AoE or maybe Cossacks, or whatever - those games do not have any spellcasters at all (except maybe for the Priest-like units ofc., or commanders. )

That alone takes a lot of the fun out of the game, at least in my eyes it does, cause without the spellcasting units the game can easily turn into 1-unit late-game (except for fortifications & such), not even mention the "duration" of a single match

The problem with SC/BW/SC2 is that there are a bunch of "nut-headed prodigies" back even from BW era - so the game isn't played on "let's try it" bases.. If for example you tune in into the SC2 ladder, or even more in IcCup - bet your ass will get kicked so much that you won't want to play the game.. In other words - there's so much competitiveness in it for there to be "fun" in the game

But is it good as in terms of the game-design itself ?? - bet it is - cause it's so much more playable than all those for the reasons I told you about..

IDK about you sir, but I prefer spellcasting games - cause IMO - they're much more fun to play.. Here's another example of an interesting game that isn't played much TBH - LotR.. That game has it all - macro, micro, formations, heroes, spellcasting, as well as "super" bonuses that you unlock based on the experience of killed units in it..

Or maybe we just "differ" in tastes.. Still TBH - I don't like "upgrade & mass & fortify" without diversities and spellcasts in an RTS..
Another world, another place, another universe, won the race.. :) ;) :P
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