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On October 20 2013 02:24 mishimaBeef wrote:
blizzard is the best... first they slap hearthstone on the table to duke it out with MTG and now we will see another epic game step in the ring to fight, this time to go head-to-head with the giant that is dota
The giant is League of Legends. Numbers wise, it will be league of legends for a long long time.
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I really, REALLY hope the ingame graphism won't look like that :
+ Show Spoiler +
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On October 20 2013 02:43 algue wrote:I really, REALLY hope the ingame graphism won't look like that : + Show Spoiler +
It's better graphics than LoL at least.
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This product will so utterly fail, it's not funny anymore
With the stiff competition in the Dota-sphere, you can't do it half-assed
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On October 20 2013 02:10 Deathstar wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2013 02:03 GizmoPT wrote:On October 20 2013 01:51 Deathstar wrote:
This game sounds far too much like another dying game, HoN (=Heroes of Newarth). I don't like this new name, and I feel Blizzard All-Stars would have been better, but I guess Blizzard did the calculations as to which title will be better.
edit: then again, maybe they didn't. We'll see ye because league of legends is the most amazing name ever right ?... names dont matter gameplay does If names don't matter why change it? Why did Blizzard choose HotS? It obviously does matter. I don't think gameplay really matters in terms of Blizzard wanting to sell this game to the consumers.
They changed it because people were calling the game Balls.
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On October 20 2013 02:54 Deathstar wrote:It's better graphics than LoL at least.
Dunno why people shit on LoL's graphics. I like them, and find them easier to follow than DotA's for instance. I can't stand the graphics in DotA, colors are way too muted, models are too detailed but too small for those details to matter, and I'm bored by the character design.
Of course, they all pale in comparison to Carbot's animations. Would be the greatest moba of all time with that graphics direction.
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On October 20 2013 02:59 papaz wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2013 02:10 Deathstar wrote:On October 20 2013 02:03 GizmoPT wrote:On October 20 2013 01:51 Deathstar wrote:
This game sounds far too much like another dying game, HoN (=Heroes of Newarth). I don't like this new name, and I feel Blizzard All-Stars would have been better, but I guess Blizzard did the calculations as to which title will be better.
edit: then again, maybe they didn't. We'll see ye because league of legends is the most amazing name ever right ?... names dont matter gameplay does If names don't matter why change it? Why did Blizzard choose HotS? It obviously does matter. I don't think gameplay really matters in terms of Blizzard wanting to sell this game to the consumers. They changed it because people were calling the game Balls.
LOL... B(lizzard) ALL S(tars)
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On October 20 2013 02:58 dizzy101 wrote:
This product will so utterly fail, it's not funny anymore
With the stiff competition in the Dota-sphere, you can't do it half-assed
great point.
Blizzard is famous for all their half-assed products.
like Warcraft 3 , WoW, Starcraft. just pure shovel-ware... all of it.
Blizzard just jams as many half-made half-ready products out the door as possible. They are all about quantity over quality.
I mean look out how much better CoH2 and Rome2 are than SC2. Two really polished games versus SC2. which is a glitch-fest.
Look at all the MMOs that are a thousand times better than WoW.
No wonder Blizzard's games only last 10 or 15 years tops... in an industry where popular titles are played for 30, 40 or 50 years.
Mike Morhaime should be ashamed of himself.
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Hey wanna play some space invaders tonight?
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On October 20 2013 03:12 lamprey1 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2013 02:58 dizzy101 wrote:
This product will so utterly fail, it's not funny anymore
With the stiff competition in the Dota-sphere, you can't do it half-assed
great point. Blizzard is famous for all their half-assed products. like Warcraft 3 , WoW, Starcraft. just pure shovel-ware... all of it. Blizzard just jams as many half-made half-ready products out the door as possible. They are all about quantity over quality. I mean look out how much better CoH2 and Rome2 are than SC2. Two really polished games versus SC2. which is a glitch-fest. Look at all the MMOs that are a thousand times better than WoW. No wonder Blizzard's games only last 10 or 15 years tops... in an industry where popular titles are played for 30, 40 or 50 years. Mike Morhaime should be ashamed of himself.
TBH Blizzard has been the establishment for quality for so long that it's just easy to hate on them now that they've made a few blunders, why people would WANT games to fail I really have no clue, why would you want to have less fun than you would other wise be having exactly. Makes no sense to me.
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On October 20 2013 03:12 lamprey1 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2013 02:58 dizzy101 wrote:
This product will so utterly fail, it's not funny anymore
With the stiff competition in the Dota-sphere, you can't do it half-assed
great point. Blizzard is famous for all their half-assed products. like Warcraft 3 , WoW, Starcraft. just pure shovel-ware... all of it. Blizzard just jams as many half-made half-ready products out the door as possible. They are all about quantity over quality. I mean look out how much better CoH2 and Rome2 are than SC2. Two really polished games versus SC2. which is a glitch-fest. Look at all the MMOs that are a thousand times better than WoW. No wonder Blizzard's games only last 10 or 15 years tops... in an industry where popular titles are played for 30, 40 or 50 years. Mike Morhaime should be ashamed of himself.
Thanks, this post made me chuckle. Good one!
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starting to think "someone" is paying trolls to bring games down xD
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On October 20 2013 03:12 lamprey1 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2013 02:58 dizzy101 wrote:
This product will so utterly fail, it's not funny anymore
With the stiff competition in the Dota-sphere, you can't do it half-assed
great point. Blizzard is famous for all their half-assed products. like Warcraft 3 , WoW, Starcraft. just pure shovel-ware... all of it. Blizzard just jams as many half-made half-ready products out the door as possible. They are all about quantity over quality. I mean look out how much better CoH2 and Rome2 are than SC2. Two really polished games versus SC2. which is a glitch-fest. Look at all the MMOs that are a thousand times better than WoW. No wonder Blizzard's games only last 10 or 15 years tops... in an industry where popular titles are played for 30, 40 or 50 years. Mike Morhaime should be ashamed of himself.
I agree, there are way more accomplished companies then Blizzard in terms of game development.
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On October 20 2013 03:17 Caihead wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2013 03:12 lamprey1 wrote:On October 20 2013 02:58 dizzy101 wrote:
This product will so utterly fail, it's not funny anymore
With the stiff competition in the Dota-sphere, you can't do it half-assed
great point. Blizzard is famous for all their half-assed products. like Warcraft 3 , WoW, Starcraft. just pure shovel-ware... all of it. Blizzard just jams as many half-made half-ready products out the door as possible. They are all about quantity over quality. I mean look out how much better CoH2 and Rome2 are than SC2. Two really polished games versus SC2. which is a glitch-fest. Look at all the MMOs that are a thousand times better than WoW. No wonder Blizzard's games only last 10 or 15 years tops... in an industry where popular titles are played for 30, 40 or 50 years. Mike Morhaime should be ashamed of himself. TBH Blizzard has been the establishment for quality for so long that it's just easy to hate on them now that they've made a few blunders, why people would WANT games to fail I really have no clue, why would you want to have less fun than you would other wise be having exactly. Makes no sense to me.
99% of developers would love to "blunder" like Blizzard. Despite the hate that they get:
Diablo 3 is the best modern ARPG out there. The only one comparable is D2:LoD And by best, I mean solid graphics and incredibly good gameplay. It can be improved, yes... but it is seriously top of the charts.
SC2 is the best modern RTS out there. The only comparable one is SC:BW
WoW, despite being almost a decade old, is still pretty much the best MMO out there
Now, Hearthstone is pretty much the best CCG out there.
If any of these are considered blunders, sign me up to blunder like blizz.
People hate on Blizz because it is easy to do. There is no logical reason for it. We just live in a modern society of people that bitch about anything that isn't exactly how they see it and want it.
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On October 20 2013 03:02 Noobity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2013 02:54 Deathstar wrote:On October 20 2013 02:43 algue wrote:I really, REALLY hope the ingame graphism won't look like that : + Show Spoiler + It's better graphics than LoL at least. Dunno why people shit on LoL's graphics. I like them, and find them easier to follow than DotA's for instance. I can't stand the graphics in DotA, colors are way too muted, models are too detailed but too small for those details to matter, and I'm bored by the character design. Of course, they all pale in comparison to Carbot's animations. Would be the greatest moba of all time with that graphics direction.
dunno, for me its complete opposite, cant see shit in LoL and in dota 2 everything is crystal clear to me ...
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On October 20 2013 03:12 lamprey1 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2013 02:58 dizzy101 wrote:
This product will so utterly fail, it's not funny anymore
With the stiff competition in the Dota-sphere, you can't do it half-assed
great point. Blizzard is famous for all their half-assed products. like Warcraft 3 , WoW, Starcraft. just pure shovel-ware... all of it. Blizzard just jams as many half-made half-ready products out the door as possible. They are all about quantity over quality. I mean look out how much better CoH2 and Rome2 are than SC2. Two really polished games versus SC2. which is a glitch-fest. Look at all the MMOs that are a thousand times better than WoW. No wonder Blizzard's games only last 10 or 15 years tops... in an industry where popular titles are played for 30, 40 or 50 years. Mike Morhaime should be ashamed of himself.
Diablo 3, mist of pandaria, Heart of the swarm <- recent games
The games you listed were made by Blizzard before they were bought out and have their game devs replaced.
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cool, i might actually give this moba a try.
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On October 20 2013 03:42 phodacbiet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2013 03:12 lamprey1 wrote:On October 20 2013 02:58 dizzy101 wrote:
This product will so utterly fail, it's not funny anymore
With the stiff competition in the Dota-sphere, you can't do it half-assed
great point. Blizzard is famous for all their half-assed products. like Warcraft 3 , WoW, Starcraft. just pure shovel-ware... all of it. Blizzard just jams as many half-made half-ready products out the door as possible. They are all about quantity over quality. I mean look out how much better CoH2 and Rome2 are than SC2. Two really polished games versus SC2. which is a glitch-fest. Look at all the MMOs that are a thousand times better than WoW. No wonder Blizzard's games only last 10 or 15 years tops... in an industry where popular titles are played for 30, 40 or 50 years. Mike Morhaime should be ashamed of himself. Diablo 3, mist of pandaria, Heart of the swarm <- recent games The games you listed were made by Blizzard before they were bought out and have their game devs replaced.
i thought hots was awesome and way bettter then WoL ;; havnt playd d3, and WoW thou
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On October 20 2013 03:12 lamprey1 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2013 02:58 dizzy101 wrote:
This product will so utterly fail, it's not funny anymore
With the stiff competition in the Dota-sphere, you can't do it half-assed
great point. Blizzard is famous for all their half-assed products. like Warcraft 3 , WoW, Starcraft. just pure shovel-ware... all of it. Blizzard just jams as many half-made half-ready products out the door as possible. They are all about quantity over quality. I mean look out how much better CoH2 and Rome2 are than SC2. Two really polished games versus SC2. which is a glitch-fest. Look at all the MMOs that are a thousand times better than WoW. No wonder Blizzard's games only last 10 or 15 years tops... in an industry where popular titles are played for 30, 40 or 50 years. Mike Morhaime should be ashamed of himself.
May I remind you guys that they created WC2 back in the day the most fun RTS at the time.. Then they created the original SC, and then after BW was by far, and still is in a way - the most fun RTS game..
You say about Rome2 and AoE or maybe Cossacks, or whatever - those games do not have any spellcasters at all (except maybe for the Priest-like units ofc., or commanders.  )
That alone takes a lot of the fun out of the game, at least in my eyes it does, cause without the spellcasting units the game can easily turn into 1-unit late-game (except for fortifications & such), not even mention the "duration" of a single match
The problem with SC/BW/SC2 is that there are a bunch of "nut-headed prodigies" back even from BW era - so the game isn't played on "let's try it" bases.. If for example you tune in into the SC2 ladder, or even more in IcCup - bet your ass will get kicked so much that you won't want to play the game.. In other words - there's so much competitiveness in it for there to be "fun" in the game
But is it good as in terms of the game-design itself ?? - bet it is - cause it's so much more playable than all those for the reasons I told you about..
IDK about you sir, but I prefer spellcasting games - cause IMO - they're much more fun to play.. Here's another example of an interesting game that isn't played much TBH - LotR.. That game has it all - macro, micro, formations, heroes, spellcasting, as well as "super" bonuses that you unlock based on the experience of killed units in it..
Or maybe we just "differ" in tastes.. Still TBH - I don't like "upgrade & mass & fortify" without diversities and spellcasts in an RTS.. 
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