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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On October 19 2013 07:12 Daralii wrote: I think most people wanted SC2 and D3 to be 1:1 clones of SCBW and D2:LoD. Well that sure woulda been better than what we have now. See: Dota 2 | ||
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Goldfish
2230 Posts
On October 18 2013 11:48 Shiori wrote: Icefrog deserves 95% of the credit for DotA, though, and here's why: Dota before Icefrog made it (i.e. pre-Allstars) was a mess. It was fun as hell, but it was super imbalanced, buggy, and, in some instances, flat-out ridiculous (some of those heroes...). Icefrog took it and made it into a phenomenon. Eul deserves credit for the original idea, Guinsoo for making it more streamlined, and Icefrog for taking it from "decent niche custom map" to multi-million dollar enterprise. I agree that Icefrog is the main guy but I also say the others before him were as important too (in their own way or other). Icefrog is definitely the guy that takes something in the process of building and completes it and makes it awesome. Eul set up the building blocks (the original DotA), Guinsoo adds a lot more (All Stars added new heroes and the main thing is item recipes which was probably the major thing added from Eul's version), and Icefrog polishes (he revamped a ton of heroes and made the abilities they had compliment each other) and completes it and adds more depth and interesting mechanics to it (Icefrog added things like denying, and added a lot of new mechanics with items and stuff and the new items for example helped open up a lot of different play styles for more types of heroes too which added a ton of depth). Overall, I do agree Icefrog is definitely the guy the took DotA from a WC3 custom mod to this competitive game played by millions. I'm glad Eul is also with Icefrog and working together with Valve on Dota 2 and it's neat to see Guinsoo also have success with LoL too. Anyway, back to the HotS name. Heroes of the Storm being better than Blizzard All Stars IMO because Blizzard All Stars sounds a bit too generic. Since Blizzard is a type of storm (there is a blizzard storm coming), and storm then can also refer to Blizzard the company itself, Heroes of the storm (the blizzard storm) can still be interpreted as a game featuring all the cast and characters of all Blizzard franchise. So yeah, Blizzard are geniuses  ! Another thing I want to point out - whenever people say "I want to play HotS", they wonder, do you mean SC2 HotS or the Heroes of the Storm HotS? And this confusion will spread ! People will ask this question everyday (which game do you mean?). And people who never heard of SC2 HotS but know Heroes of the Storm HotS, will know SC2 HotS, and vice versa. Double the advertisement and double the marketing potential! Blizzard are double geniuses for this! | ||
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Hazeykthx
Canada29 Posts
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Vindicare605
United States16125 Posts
On October 19 2013 08:04 Hazeykthx wrote: hahahahahh this is a joke right? What about it would be a joke? | ||
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ftm
Australia47 Posts
*tries to take eyes of Dota 2 game curreently being played* ..sure...I can be bothered.... | ||
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LockeTazeline
2390 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=370156 | ||
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vOdToasT
Sweden2870 Posts
On October 19 2013 07:12 Daralii wrote: I think most people wanted SC2 and D3 to be 1:1 clones of SCBW and D2:LoD. I would have preferred improvements over the originals, but it would still have been better than what we got. | ||
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AceOfCakez
United States72 Posts
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Miss_Foxy
Singapore109 Posts
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havok55
United States276 Posts
On October 18 2013 03:24 [-Bluewolf-] wrote: What did I just watch...? No gameplay or information beyond a title and some custom cartoon animation. From some of the comments, this is some attempt at a joke? I'm so confused. They're obviously saving that for Blizzcon. And you got to watch an extra carbot animation, wtf are you bitchin about? | ||
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
On October 19 2013 06:45 Derez wrote: I think the problem that people have with blizzard doing things like this is that instead of actually trying to come up with interesting new games, they're stuck making clones of things they or other people made. They usually do a good job, and games are excellent, but they're not expanding the genre or innovative in any way. Instead what we are supposed to be happy with is what feels like side projects, expansions and graphical updates to old games. Then again I play dota a little and used to play lol a little and I'm not particularly attached to either title. If this is fun I'll try it. Blizzard was never one to "expanding the genre or innovative". What they did was take existing ideas, combine/streamline them and polish till they were satisfied by those. | ||
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HornyHerring
Papua New Guinea1059 Posts
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Applesmack
Canada680 Posts
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digmouse
China6331 Posts
On October 19 2013 12:42 Applesmack wrote: First step in the death of Starcraft 2 I thought it died already + Show Spoiler + /sarcasm | ||
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M.theory
United States23 Posts
Blizzard characters in a MOBA? That sounds pretty sweet, tbh. | ||
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Godwrath
Spain10154 Posts
On October 19 2013 03:51 Darkren wrote: You just convinced me how horrible of a name change they made. OOOOOOOOO how sad i am now Im the king of balls, Top Balls EU. | ||
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Malphite
United States186 Posts
I hope they add things such as maybe Purchasable swords (FF 7 cloud sword) for like a dollar or 2... or crazy scepters ... They can't copy league exactly or there would be no point in me switching to this game. Dota 2 is such a bad game IMO... Please make it more like League (reason why it's the best game right now). Hope the beta isn't like hearthstone as well... Only the streamers/personalities get to play it?? | ||
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Thieving Magpie
United States6752 Posts
On October 19 2013 16:39 Malphite wrote: If they copy league... with f2P and skins/wards/champs to be purchase... I hope they add things such as maybe Purchasable swords (FF 7 cloud sword) for like a dollar or 2... or crazy scepters ... They can't copy league exactly or there would be no point in me switching to this game. Dota 2 is such a bad game IMO... Please make it more like League (reason why it's the best game right now). Hope the beta isn't like hearthstone as well... Only the streamers/personalities get to play it?? They'll make it like BW and require patrol micro to move witch doctors, hotness incoming  | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16125 Posts
On October 19 2013 16:39 Malphite wrote: If they copy league... with f2P and skins/wards/champs to be purchase... I hope they add things such as maybe Purchasable swords (FF 7 cloud sword) for like a dollar or 2... or crazy scepters ... They can't copy league exactly or there would be no point in me switching to this game. Dota 2 is such a bad game IMO... Please make it more like League (reason why it's the best game right now). Hope the beta isn't like hearthstone as well... Only the streamers/personalities get to play it?? I highly doubt they're going to repeat what they did with Hearthstone's beta. They are not happy at all with how the streamer give away thing turned out with people selling the keys. | ||
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Zenbrez
Canada5973 Posts
It's been dying for the past 24 months supposedly. Any day now! | ||
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