EPTHeroes Large General Thread - Page 113
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Kipsate
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Lokian
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The popularity of a game does not always depend on the quality of the game. There are many factors that end up building up to the point where a game becomes massively popular such as timing and opportunity. The point is, mass mania is prevalent on the internet, trends cycle more faster. Social media is the actual game. Dota style games came into existence after the popular micro-transaction model emerged. League was one of the first of its kind, followed by Dota 2. Dota 1 existed, but it didn't have any marketing. It also didn't have any competing games it its style as well. As far as the game itself, league didn't blow up right away. Dota was hyped but it was mostly people that were familiar with dota, hon and league at the time. The only reason HotS is in critical review is because these games are already massive. And it's blizzard. I'm not saying this is everything to it, but in my opinion, in general, league had the new microtransaction model and a marketing strategy that targeted young players (which is why league is more popular than dota right now). big boobs, teenagers, the moe and lolicon action happened straight out the manga pages. Plus, it is an online game which was extremely popular since MMOs dominated the gaming market. Dota lends itself to more of the hardcore community and that differentiated itself from the league community. If it had adjusted to a younger audience, who knows if League or Dota would be more popular. But that doesn't say casuals don't play dota. The idea of Dota being for better, hardcore players might look good for even casual players, since everyone wants to act tough and that seems to be more fun than playing the game itself. You see this kind of dynamic in "hardcore" games such as dark souls. But the point is, the popularity of the game isn't entirely indicative of how good the game is. If people think Justin Beiber is the hottest person on earth, then people can think a crap game is the best game on earth. Heroes is a game that tries to tackle both casual and hardcore players. Strategy is obviously more complex than any other moba game but the game mechanics can be taken simplistic. The issue that this game can run into is that strategy might be degraded to RNG if the game can be figured out. Restraints or "Hardcore" mechanics are still in Heroes. Last hitting on creep is still in the game with hero specific talents but it sort of defeats the purpose of strategic objective play. I agree that the game becomes harder to win because it is easier to play. What's wrong with that? There's just more emphasis on mind games, which seems more fair than other games in my opinion. As far as popularity the game will no doubt be one of the biggest in the genre. It's a blizzard game, and blizzard has one of the best marketing teams out there. + fanboys. There's really no reason to doubt this. There's a bar that you need to meet in order for a game to become extremely popular, and that bar depends on similar games in the genre. Once you get a big enough player base, the game will grow by itself without marketing stunts, and that's when you know the game is self-sustained, viral and will last for a very long time. PVP games are one of the most well-sustained games out there since the game itself is basically an end-game experience. You can't beat the game, you can beat the players. Blizzard has enough credibility and money to do that easily. For me, I'm just waiting for the day the moba trend will exhaust itself and something new comes up. | ||
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TMG26
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On August 17 2014 01:03 Lokian wrote: Dota 1 existed, but it didn't have any marketing. And even without it, it became a colossal game in China and Pinoyland. | ||
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The_Masked_Shrimp
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Serejai
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Spaylz
Japan1743 Posts
If so, then the alpha really is tiny. I can't imagine there being more than 5000 people. Anyway... I'm really starting to love this game. I just bought Sonya after farming some coins, and she is SO fun. Becoming a Blizzard fan all over again! haha | ||
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The_Masked_Shrimp
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Thalandros
Netherlands1151 Posts
On August 17 2014 03:24 Spaylz wrote: So all regions are indeed mixed then? If so, then the alpha really is tiny. I can't imagine there being more than 5000 people. Anyway... I'm really starting to love this game. I just bought Sonya after farming some coins, and she is SO fun. Becoming a Blizzard fan all over again! haha There's 2-3K people on at a time. It'd surprise me if there weren't 30+K players | ||
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SagaZ
France3460 Posts
Honestly it might be the best game ever for all I know, but since only a few can play it, no one watches it. | ||
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Cheren
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Serejai
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Disengaged
United States6994 Posts
On August 17 2014 09:15 Serejai wrote: Don't wait for beta; there are plenty of noobs now! I'm pretty confident in saying like 70-80% of people in the alpha are casual wow players who have never played another game in their life. There are some really awful players and that's a big gripe I have with blizzard. They seem to hand out more keys to people wwhoarent qualified in the slightest to be in a technical alpha while deserving players get overlooked. Now your just sounding like people on WoW who have been subbed since Vanilla thinking just because of that they think they are entitled to any and all WoW beta's. No one DESERVES anything. Its just the luck of the draw and the fact that Blizzard has kept the alpha to a pretty small amount of players which is not smart on their part. | ||
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Serejai
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One of my accounts got alpha back in the first wave and that account has nothing but diablo II on it (a banned cdkey at that) and hasn't been used in like five years. I should not get an alpha invite on that, but I did. Lottery is for beta, not alphas. | ||
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DBS
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Disengaged
United States6994 Posts
On August 17 2014 09:42 Serejai wrote: Why is it wrong for me to think that people who want to find bugs and actually test the game are more deserving of an alpha invite than someone who either just treats it as early access or gets it randomly and doesn't even want it? I guess the definition of an alpha must have changed because they used to be for actually testing the game. One of my accounts got alpha back in the first wave and that account has nothing but diablo II on it (a banned cdkey at that) and hasn't been used in like five years. I should not get an alpha invite on that, but I did. Lottery is for beta, not alphas. The things I was saying was based on how you worded yourself in the post so I believed you were being one of those kinds of people like I said in my post so my bad. And no DBS, somebody seems to have ROYALLY fucked up for that description of Zeratul. Hes in no way shape or form a servant of the Xel'Naga. | ||
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Shaella
United States14827 Posts
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Disengaged
United States6994 Posts
On August 17 2014 12:45 Shaella wrote: depends on LotV Nah, it doesn't. Who do you think is going to be the main character for the Protoss in LotV? Zeratul, of course. And hes been against the Xel'Naga this entire time so to radically and suddenly change that is stupid writing. | ||
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Shaella
United States14827 Posts
its one, rogue xel naga for all we know in Zeratul's travels between BW and WoL he met the few surviving Xel Naga which is why he has all this knowledge out of nowhere, because he clearly didn't have all that knowledge when he ran into Duran and his hybrids in the bonus mission in BW | ||
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