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The_Masked_Shrimp
Profile Joined February 2012
425 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-29 22:51:07
March 29 2016 22:50 GMT
#801
I think the priest card might be good if priest gets more ways to manipulate minions attack, like the paladin legendary.

And the druid card is not very exciting....
RevenantSC2
Profile Joined September 2014
United States0 Posts
March 30 2016 01:34 GMT
#802
On March 30 2016 07:50 The_Masked_Shrimp wrote:
I think the priest card might be good if priest gets more ways to manipulate minions attack, like the paladin legendary.

And the druid card is not very exciting....


If the card is an incentive for people to try Beast Druid decks, than that's good enough for me.
You either die as a control player, or live long enough to see yourself playing aggro.
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
March 30 2016 02:36 GMT
#803
On March 30 2016 10:34 RevenantSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2016 07:50 The_Masked_Shrimp wrote:
I think the priest card might be good if priest gets more ways to manipulate minions attack, like the paladin legendary.

And the druid card is not very exciting....


If the card is an incentive for people to try Beast Druid decks, than that's good enough for me.

Unexciting cards have a way of being the best cards in the set sometimes. I don't remember people making a lot of fuss over Voidcaller when Naxx was coming out, but that card singlehandedly made Demonlock a thing. Dr. Boom isn't very exciting on paper either, and many underestimated it, we all know what happened there. There's something to be said for a card that isn't flashy, but instead functional.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
meatpudding
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia520 Posts
March 30 2016 02:50 GMT
#804
On March 30 2016 11:36 NewSunshine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2016 10:34 RevenantSC2 wrote:
On March 30 2016 07:50 The_Masked_Shrimp wrote:
I think the priest card might be good if priest gets more ways to manipulate minions attack, like the paladin legendary.

And the druid card is not very exciting....


If the card is an incentive for people to try Beast Druid decks, than that's good enough for me.

Unexciting cards have a way of being the best cards in the set sometimes. I don't remember people making a lot of fuss over Voidcaller when Naxx was coming out, but that card singlehandedly made Demonlock a thing. Dr. Boom isn't very exciting on paper either, and many underestimated it, we all know what happened there. There's something to be said for a card that isn't flashy, but instead functional.


It seems a perfectly fine card indeed. Like a mini Blessing of Kings that cycles. Druid of the Claw + this = 7 mana super Leeroy.
Be excellent to each other.
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
March 30 2016 02:59 GMT
#805
New card revealed! Not sure how I feel about this, 8 hp is fairly high, but for 6 mana, just a big dumb guy that keeps getting bigger, I feel like it won't do all that much outside of maybe some niche dragon deck.

[image loading]
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Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
March 30 2016 03:08 GMT
#806
This dude could be good on an empty board. Without an answer, he's a 4/8, which is solid for 6 mana. On anything else, though, he's just gonna get messed up. It would be a totally different state of affairs if he triggered at end of turn.

As things currently stand:
T1: significantly overcosted
T2: appropriately costed
T3: undercosted
T4: you gonna die

Minions living to even T3, much less T4, is rare.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-30 03:10:36
March 30 2016 03:09 GMT
#807
Well Hunters needed a replacement for Gahz'Rilla. On the legit though, maybe Dragon Priest would use it? They have the most tempo out of all Dragon decks currently, and they could keep it alive, Inner Fire gets another stupid target. Still a strange card, doesn't seem that amazing.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
BliptiX
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada324 Posts
March 30 2016 03:11 GMT
#808
I see why they wanted to change Master of Disguise now.
meatpudding
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia520 Posts
March 30 2016 03:49 GMT
#809
8 hp is clearly a lot, and this cries out to be removed quickly. If your opponent plays a polymorph or hex then you are in a good position to play Ysera later. Maybe this could replace Twilight Whelp in slower dragon priest?
Be excellent to each other.
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
March 30 2016 04:50 GMT
#810
On March 30 2016 12:11 BliptiX wrote:
I see why they wanted to change Master of Disguise now.

Yeah, there are tons of cool card ideas that Master of Disguise can break horribly.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Kenpark
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany2350 Posts
March 30 2016 06:09 GMT
#811
On March 30 2016 11:36 NewSunshine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2016 10:34 RevenantSC2 wrote:
On March 30 2016 07:50 The_Masked_Shrimp wrote:
I think the priest card might be good if priest gets more ways to manipulate minions attack, like the paladin legendary.

And the druid card is not very exciting....


If the card is an incentive for people to try Beast Druid decks, than that's good enough for me.

Unexciting cards have a way of being the best cards in the set sometimes. I don't remember people making a lot of fuss over Voidcaller when Naxx was coming out, but that card singlehandedly made Demonlock a thing. Dr. Boom isn't very exciting on paper either, and many underestimated it, we all know what happened there. There's something to be said for a card that isn't flashy, but instead functional.


I always welcome cards that encourage deck variety. Not every card needs to find its place in a tier 1 deck. If this (with some further help) makes beast druid somewhat viable I'm fine with it. Druid of the Fang is gonna get a boost as well IF BGH gets nerfed. I mean a 7/7 for 5 is pretty insane in the absence of BGH. Also with the (probably) incoming nerf of AoL Druid may need more card draw

It wont be the new living roots though in the sense of underestimated cards before it sees play. It's too situational you need a minion out and that minion has to be a beast to make it good.


A drake for the 6th slot would be great for sth like Dragon Priest. You probably also have some taunts out by the time this gets played to give it 1/2 turns to make it really good. At 8 health it is really hard to remove.
Thing is there are cards like Cabal and Kodo. If this gets cabaled, you can concede right there.
Maexxna at 2/8 did not see play at all, so I'm sceptical.

Hellonslaught
Profile Joined June 2014
Brazil0 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-30 07:42:24
March 30 2016 07:23 GMT
#812
Nightmare Dragon is a worse Gurubashi Berserker

The druid card is interesting and i think it will see play if there is enough good beasts available. +2/+2 charge damage and draw a card has insane value for 2 mana.

Edit: Druid of the Saber and Druid of the Flame transformations are beasts? OMG, Mark of Y'shaarj will be ridiculously strong if they are.

Edit2: OMG they are! Blizzard is pushing new Beast Druid archetype for sure with Mark of Y'shaarj.
Priest
Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
March 30 2016 07:44 GMT
#813
As with most "interesting" cards it will probably take too long to get value from this minion. Nightmare Dragon into cold blood x2 and conceal might be a nice gimmick as I assume it will double the bonus attack.
I think esports is pretty nice.
Noidberg
Profile Joined June 2011
United States17 Posts
March 30 2016 07:57 GMT
#814
Nightmare dragon too weak to cabal for a control card. Double attack at the end of turn please.
stealthrider
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
24 Posts
March 30 2016 08:11 GMT
#815
If the Dragon Priest has his own Cabal or a Shadow Word: Pain, that weakness is nullified.

Of course, running that many 6 drops is tough for a Dragon Priest, but it does give that deck removal bait which it desperately needed to compete with slower decks.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
March 30 2016 08:43 GMT
#816
On March 30 2016 11:59 hunts wrote:
New card revealed! Not sure how I feel about this, 8 hp is fairly high, but for 6 mana, just a big dumb guy that keeps getting bigger, I feel like it won't do all that much outside of maybe some niche dragon deck.

[image loading]

The name and art are amazing...but start of the turn is really bad...
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AsAr
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany52 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-30 09:19:57
March 30 2016 09:16 GMT
#817
On March 30 2016 11:59 hunts wrote:
[image loading]


Must be a rogue card. Cold Blood, Conceal, Master of Disguise and you have a killing machine (10/8 into 20/8)

On March 30 2016 16:57 Noidberg wrote:
Nightmare dragon too weak to cabal for a control card. Double attack at the end of turn please.


What about BGH?
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-30 09:57:51
March 30 2016 09:55 GMT
#818
[image loading]

Oh hey suddenly SAD isn't so SAD
Greendotz
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2053 Posts
March 30 2016 09:57 GMT
#819
On March 30 2016 15:09 Kenpark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2016 11:36 NewSunshine wrote:
On March 30 2016 10:34 RevenantSC2 wrote:
On March 30 2016 07:50 The_Masked_Shrimp wrote:
I think the priest card might be good if priest gets more ways to manipulate minions attack, like the paladin legendary.

And the druid card is not very exciting....


If the card is an incentive for people to try Beast Druid decks, than that's good enough for me.

Unexciting cards have a way of being the best cards in the set sometimes. I don't remember people making a lot of fuss over Voidcaller when Naxx was coming out, but that card singlehandedly made Demonlock a thing. Dr. Boom isn't very exciting on paper either, and many underestimated it, we all know what happened there. There's something to be said for a card that isn't flashy, but instead functional.


I always welcome cards that encourage deck variety. Not every card needs to find its place in a tier 1 deck. If this (with some further help) makes beast druid somewhat viable I'm fine with it. Druid of the Fang is gonna get a boost as well IF BGH gets nerfed. I mean a 7/7 for 5 is pretty insane in the absence of BGH. Also with the (probably) incoming nerf of AoL Druid may need more card draw

It wont be the new living roots though in the sense of underestimated cards before it sees play. It's too situational you need a minion out and that minion has to be a beast to make it good.


A drake for the 6th slot would be great for sth like Dragon Priest. You probably also have some taunts out by the time this gets played to give it 1/2 turns to make it really good. At 8 health it is really hard to remove.
Thing is there are cards like Cabal and Kodo. If this gets cabaled, you can concede right there.
Maexxna at 2/8 did not see play at all, so I'm sceptical.



Beast Druid actually is extremely viable as it is now. A long while ago I made a beast druid deck, it wasn't well thought out at all since I'm awful at deck building, I literally just threw a load of beast interaction cards together. It completely killed it. Druid of the Fang and Wildwalker are insane cards, Druid of the Flame gets great value on turn 3 and cat form gives it versatility on later turns. Who cares if BGH eats Druid of the Fang, it's a 5 mana card. You still have a second one in the deck along with any 7+ attack legendary of your choice.

The only reason it's not mainstream is the same reason other druid decks aren't mainstream. Ramp druid with Force-Savage combo is just too good. Unfortunately I think it will still struggle even post combo-nerf since Druid of the Fang is rotating out. When I played Beast Druid that card was definitely the super star of the deck (with Wildwalker coming a very close second).
Greendotz
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2053 Posts
March 30 2016 09:59 GMT
#820
On March 30 2016 18:55 Drazerk wrote:
[image loading]

Oh hey suddenly SAD isn't so SAD


Paladin is going to be the most bullshit class in wild.
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