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Real_Joy
Profile Joined January 2014
United States0 Posts
March 29 2016 15:40 GMT
#781
I'm actually seeing Shadow Word: Fear do a number on tempo mage. taking out flamewaker and mirror images and whatever other nonsense you can i think will actually be pretty devastating. no more fear of the T3 Flamewaker->coin->mirror being game over
"a pitchfork is for hay. a trident is for killing bitches." -djwheat
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-29 15:43:38
March 29 2016 15:42 GMT
#782
Shadow Madness is likely better in most scenarios. Doubt this will see much play tbh
Kenpark
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany2350 Posts
March 29 2016 15:45 GMT
#783
Dunno looks like crap imo. Destroys your own minion as well like a powerword buffed cleric or sth. Sth like Zoo can just reload and Priest is already losing Lightbomb and Deathlord which are core right now.
Dragon Priest is a tempo deck and it wants to establish control around turn 4 not kill its own minions.

This is not really playable if the meta isnt filled with weenie decks which I hope wont be the case.
TropicalHaze
Profile Joined May 2014
Finland60 Posts
March 29 2016 16:00 GMT
#784
I am actually really hopeful about this card, seems like a nice little aggro-killer. On a sidenote, I've always thought about Shadow Madness as a mainly situational card and rarely run a copy myself (I really can't see it being better in most scenarios especially now that Belcher is rotating out).
The eyelashes like umbrellas when it rains from the heart
Real_Joy
Profile Joined January 2014
United States0 Posts
March 29 2016 16:24 GMT
#785
I mean the obvious combo here is: thoughtsteal an equality vs paladin, play said equality+confuse and then cast SW:F. Card is obviously broken as hell...
"a pitchfork is for hay. a trident is for killing bitches." -djwheat
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
March 29 2016 17:24 GMT
#786
It hits your own board, so obviously if you have a power-worded Northshire Cleric you just shouldn't play it, Priests have all kinds of removal. The card is good in and of itself, a player who uses his head should be able to get something out of it, it makes sense in a fatigue deck at least.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
March 29 2016 17:32 GMT
#787
On March 30 2016 02:24 NewSunshine wrote:
It hits your own board, so obviously if you have a power-worded Northshire Cleric you just shouldn't play it, Priests have all kinds of removal. The card is good in and of itself, a player who uses his head should be able to get something out of it, it makes sense in a fatigue deck at least.

the 29 removal deck + Elise is soon upon us
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-29 17:39:54
March 29 2016 17:39 GMT
#788
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Kenpark
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany2350 Posts
March 29 2016 17:44 GMT
#789
On March 30 2016 02:24 NewSunshine wrote:
It hits your own board, so obviously if you have a power-worded Northshire Cleric you just shouldn't play it, Priests have all kinds of removal. The card is good in and of itself, a player who uses his head should be able to get something out of it, it makes sense in a fatigue deck at least.


So dont play anything until turn 4 to not even kill Flame Imp ? The biggest removal with Lightbomb phases out btw. Nah this is crap. Maybe if we get sth like give all minions -x for a turn ... Priest is the combo class after all. Would be great with Madness and Cabal as well.

itchiko
Profile Joined November 2014
0 Posts
March 29 2016 17:45 GMT
#790
New druid card seems really good: Nice push for some Beast synergy deck.

Should find it's place in Aggro/Mid-range version of the Beast druid decks, if such a deck should arise. But this card in itself, may well push this deck in the competitive scene.
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-29 17:54:51
March 29 2016 17:52 GMT
#791
On March 30 2016 02:44 Kenpark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2016 02:24 NewSunshine wrote:
It hits your own board, so obviously if you have a power-worded Northshire Cleric you just shouldn't play it, Priests have all kinds of removal. The card is good in and of itself, a player who uses his head should be able to get something out of it, it makes sense in a fatigue deck at least.


So dont play anything until turn 4 to not even kill Flame Imp ?

Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying... like how Naturalize is used to kill the enemy 1-drop.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
March 29 2016 18:03 GMT
#792
Also I don't like the druid card. Draw a card is stronger than Taunt but the beast requirement probably isn't worth it
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
March 29 2016 18:13 GMT
#793
On March 30 2016 00:30 Acritter wrote:
Whoa, Shadow Word: Fear could basically push Zoo out of existence by itself, unless Priest is absolutely terrible this go-around. It can kill the majority of a Zoo board all by itself.

it's already close to impossible to lose to Zoo as Control Priest and Zoo is doing just fine. just saying.
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Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-29 18:15:52
March 29 2016 18:15 GMT
#794
Whether it's good entirely depends on whether there are Beasts worth playing.

Also, I'm outright baffled by all the people fretting about SW:H hitting both sides of the board. I mean, really, are we pretending that Hellfire and Demonwrath are bad too, now? And saying that Shadow Madness is better? Shadow Madness is only better when there are two minions on the board, and you don't need weenie clear against two tiny minions at all. Comparisons to Holy Nova are fair, but this costs one less for around the same utility (more, if Shieldbearer Zoo comes back into style), and can also do neat stuff against Acolyte of Pain, Doomsayer, and so on and so forth. It's the kind of card that has utility in basically every matchup. I don't think it'll be an instant 2-of, but it ought to see a solid amount of use.
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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-29 18:50:19
March 29 2016 18:48 GMT
#795
On March 30 2016 03:15 Acritter wrote:
Whether it's good entirely depends on whether there are Beasts worth playing.

Also, I'm outright baffled by all the people fretting about SW:H hitting both sides of the board. I mean, really, are we pretending that Hellfire and Demonwrath are bad too, now? And saying that Shadow Madness is better? Shadow Madness is only better when there are two minions on the board, and you don't need weenie clear against two tiny minions at all. Comparisons to Holy Nova are fair, but this costs one less for around the same utility (more, if Shieldbearer Zoo comes back into style), and can also do neat stuff against Acolyte of Pain, Doomsayer, and so on and so forth. It's the kind of card that has utility in basically every matchup. I don't think it'll be an instant 2-of, but it ought to see a solid amount of use.

Hellfire and Demonwrath damage enemies and create favourable trades. SW:H does nothing to those that aren't effected.

Not to mention Demonwrath generally doesn't even effect your board most of the time. I'd rather tech in 2 SW: P than run SW:H personally or the more likely pyro-Auchenai Soulpriest package

Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
March 29 2016 18:52 GMT
#796
To be fair, during card previews everyone laughed at how bad Demonwrath was. Boy were they proven wrong.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-29 18:55:17
March 29 2016 18:54 GMT
#797
On March 30 2016 03:52 Wuster wrote:
To be fair, during card previews everyone laughed at how bad Demonwrath was. Boy were they proven wrong.

To be even more fair the only reason Demonwrath is seeing play is because Reno Jackson exists and its a cheap AoE effect. I personally can't ever remember Demonwrath being used during BRM/TGT
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
March 29 2016 19:05 GMT
#798
Mark of Y'Shaarj seems decent, Druids have no problem playing beasts like Druid of the Claw, any more like Tomb Spider and it would be pretty consistent card draw. For it to be played, we'll probably need to see a good new beast or 2, and if they want Beast Druid to be a thing I'll want to see more than this for synergy, but it's not a bad card.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
TropicalHaze
Profile Joined May 2014
Finland60 Posts
March 29 2016 21:12 GMT
#799
On March 30 2016 03:52 Wuster wrote:
To be fair, during card previews everyone laughed at how bad Demonwrath was. Boy were they proven wrong.


Oh well, they will always have Shadow Madness when in need to get rid of a board full of murlocs.
The eyelashes like umbrellas when it rains from the heart
meatpudding
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia520 Posts
March 29 2016 21:59 GMT
#800
I feel like in this season hard removal is out and board clears are in.
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