So to everyone who thinks Encroaching Ooze will be the death of face hunter and/or combo decks. Please explain how the card is better than Senjin or explain why Senjin hasn't been the death of these decks and this crazy OP card will.

Mortal

2943 Posts

June 06 2015 19:07 GMT

#22

Here's why Taz isn't nearly as influential as this card in a certain context that is fairly common against combo wombo decks (with Patron being by far the most common occurrence)-

How often will you have a situation where one aspect of a combo (a Treant, a buffed Patron, etc.) just needs to bust through a taunt and then the rest of the damage heads towards the intended target (face usually)? Consider this- 8 mana Warrior plays the Patron charge combo, Inner Rage on the first Patron to clear a Belcher, and then the second clears the ooze, with a third coming in to do whatever. With Encroaching, none of that is possible. Similarly with Taz, the Warrior ends up with a secondary Patron for a follow up- and depending upon the state of the board, that's bad news indeed.

On Draz's card- awesome. R8 8/8 would craft shiny version.

The_Masked_Shrimp

425 Posts

June 07 2015 01:23 GMT

#23

Yeah we need more mechanics in Hearthstone.

Ways to make your opponent discard some cards beside the full hand draws

Replacing taunt with block mechanic to prevent blind full face playstyles.

Mortal

2943 Posts

June 07 2015 01:48 GMT

#24

I don't think opponents discarding is really a mechanic that is necessary- not to mention it overtly defies the Blizzard standard of "unfun" mechanics and cards being either done away with or severely gimped. As well, I think the ability to get around defensive mechanics is important, otherwise it turns into a turtle-fest; there just needs to be more options for ways to do that other than playing taunts and hoping things go well.

Doc Daneeka

United States577 Posts

June 07 2015 02:56 GMT

#25

I'm totally on board with some way to prevent charge minions from charging. Charge minions can still kill the taunt minion the turn they're played, and silence completely negates the taunt minion from the perspective of a deck like face hunter.

edit: silence also negates this card text now that I think about it, but it'd still be good vs the charge mechanic alone.

Giorgioksk

Greece0 Posts

June 07 2015 09:23 GMT

#26

Awesome article! Thank you for sharing the info!

BBS

Germany204 Posts

June 07 2015 10:21 GMT

#27

On June 04 2015 17:02 imallin wrote:
The issue with Encroaching Ooze is that the effect is silenceable, so against hunters the card probably functions very similar to a Senjin. It is possibly even worse, because it doesn't do anything if your opponent's board is threatening lethal while a taunt does.

You could make it like Lotheb, so that all minions your opponent currently holds on hand cannot use their charge.

Penlievskiov

Netherlands0 Posts

June 07 2015 10:46 GMT

#28

On June 07 2015 19:21 BBS wrote:

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You could make it like Lotheb, so that all minions your opponent currently holds on hand cannot use their charge.

Was just going to post that, could be made legendary too. To compensate have it's stats buffed to 3/6.

It won't stop the druid combo btw or Huffer for that matter but we already have Loatheb for those I guess. Won't stop Warsong Commander either.

The dragon taunt is exactly what dragon decks need btw. Blizzard implement pls

Penlievskiov

Netherlands0 Posts

June 07 2015 11:05 GMT

#29

double post

eScapegoat100

Canada71 Posts

June 07 2015 17:17 GMT

#30

Why not have a creature that works like a Nerub'ar Weblord for "Charge" creatures. With better stats.

Mortal

2943 Posts

June 07 2015 20:31 GMT

#31

Because one of the most common charging creatures, Patrons, don't actually have charge as their flavor text- which means they wouldn't be impeded in any way. It also wouldn't work on the FoN/SR combo as it's not actually a creature, but rather a spell that brings forth creatures.

Fi0na

0 Posts

June 08 2015 00:34 GMT

#32

On June 08 2015 05:31 Mortal wrote:
Because one of the most common charging creatures, Patrons, don't actually have charge as their flavor text- which means they wouldn't be impeded in any way. It also wouldn't work on the FoN/SR combo as it's not actually a creature, but rather a spell that brings forth creatures.

The ability is written in a way that it does not trigger on play of a minion, but rather as a field effect, similar to Stormwind Champion. It just nullifies the charge effect, which means the Grim Patrons will go back to "cannot attack the turn they are played" even though they did recieve the charge.