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shur
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany35 Posts
July 23 2014 11:02 GMT
#221
On July 23 2014 19:04 Unleashing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2014 09:28 Dizmaul wrote:
On July 23 2014 08:37 Unleashing wrote:
Echoing ooze isn't a fucking battlecry blizzard, you can't just have an effect like battlecry and then change what you want it to mean now.

If you shadowstep it and play it multiple times you don't get multiple oozes, how exactly is this a battlecry? Battlecries are meant to be effects that exist after something is played, if you wanted this to be a battlecry it should give you a copy of the minion regardless of if it died, you shadowstepped it or not.

A proper card text would be: "At the end of the first turn this card was played, create an exact copy of it"
Because that's what it does, it has fuckall to do with a battlecry.



Does battlecry not really mean "do this first turn card is played". Most are instant, this one is just saying do the action at the end of the turn. It's an affect that happens after the card is played on the first turn. You just have time to buff or change the minion before the actual effect happens.

No, every single battlecry except this one is something that comes into effect AS you play it, even if your mob is destroyed as it is played by something like snipe or whatever their effects will still always come into play.
This card however can not be shadowstepped for multiple clones, can not be sacrificed to do stuff with it.

It's just a incredibly poorly worded ability unless they suddenly want to change what battlecry means to just "stuff that happens on the first turn it's played" because that's not how the mechanic has worked so far and i see zero reason to suddenly change it.

This is just one step away from hearthstone being filled with ambiguous and shitty card texts where you're like "I'm not actually entirely sure how this works" just from the card text which is a really fucking shitty situation to be in.


Why are you so angry? The card text says exactly what will happen:
"Summon an exact copy of this minion at the end of the turn."
It's a new kind of mechanic, but it still fits into the category battlecry. A battlecry does something, when you play it from hand. The point is that the effect does not happen when it is put into play differently. Meaning: the effect happens only when played from hand and only in that turn. So it is neither poorly worded nor ambiguous. I think you are a bit overreacting here
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
July 23 2014 11:27 GMT
#222
it summons an exact copy at the end of the turn. if the minion is not in play at the end of the turn, an exact copy is nothing. this isn't really ambiguous or anything.
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Dizmaul
Profile Joined March 2010
United States831 Posts
July 23 2014 14:43 GMT
#223
Glad some people agree with me haha.
It is what it is
awesomoecalypse
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2235 Posts
July 23 2014 14:49 GMT
#224
On July 23 2014 19:04 Unleashing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2014 09:28 Dizmaul wrote:
On July 23 2014 08:37 Unleashing wrote:
Echoing ooze isn't a fucking battlecry blizzard, you can't just have an effect like battlecry and then change what you want it to mean now.

If you shadowstep it and play it multiple times you don't get multiple oozes, how exactly is this a battlecry? Battlecries are meant to be effects that exist after something is played, if you wanted this to be a battlecry it should give you a copy of the minion regardless of if it died, you shadowstepped it or not.

A proper card text would be: "At the end of the first turn this card was played, create an exact copy of it"
Because that's what it does, it has fuckall to do with a battlecry.



Does battlecry not really mean "do this first turn card is played". Most are instant, this one is just saying do the action at the end of the turn. It's an affect that happens after the card is played on the first turn. You just have time to buff or change the minion before the actual effect happens.

No, every single battlecry except this one is something that comes into effect AS you play it, even if your mob is destroyed as it is played by something like snipe or whatever their effects will still always come into play.
This card however can not be shadowstepped for multiple clones, can not be sacrificed to do stuff with it.

It's just a incredibly poorly worded ability unless they suddenly want to change what battlecry means to just "stuff that happens on the first turn it's played" because that's not how the mechanic has worked so far and i see zero reason to suddenly change it.

This is just one step away from hearthstone being filled with ambiguous and shitty card texts where you're like "I'm not actually entirely sure how this works" just from the card text which is a really fucking shitty situation to be in.


Battlecry is an effect that activates when the minion is played from hand.

The effect activating in this case is like the Warlock spell corruption, it doesn't resolve until a specificed point in time. That doesn't mean the effect isn't active though.

There's nothing really ambiguous or confusing about it at all.
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