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DreamHack Summer to host $25,000 Tournament - Page 2

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weeA
Profile Joined October 2010
India442 Posts
May 20 2014 06:23 GMT
#21
will be awesome!!! so Hyped!! !
Lim Yo Hwan I love U
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
May 20 2014 06:34 GMT
#22
On May 20 2014 15:15 Kisstafer wrote:
Having 75% of the player pool invited seems like a step backwards considering how many players would love a shot to win a dreamhack.

Especially with the huge RNG component in HS. Top players could easily fails top 4 by a few positions due to RNG.
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zebezt
Profile Joined August 2011
185 Posts
May 20 2014 06:57 GMT
#23
I like the choice for iPads. You can put opponents next to eachother on a couch with commentators in between or so.

And when someone rages they can throw their iPad to pieces.
Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-20 07:11:40
May 20 2014 07:11 GMT
#24
On May 20 2014 15:34 Release wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2014 15:15 Kisstafer wrote:
Having 75% of the player pool invited seems like a step backwards considering how many players would love a shot to win a dreamhack.

Especially with the huge RNG component in HS. Top players could easily fails top 4 by a few positions due to RNG.

well technically it is possible for anyone to win and 4 qualifier spots should be enough in case there is any player out there who is just miles ahead of anybody else.
however, if all players are around the same level anyway you can understand them wanting to invite a lot of people
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NasKe_
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil570 Posts
May 20 2014 11:31 GMT
#25
Thinking about going, but having to buy the BYOC pass may be too much for me.
Eggi
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
478 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-20 16:59:31
May 20 2014 16:52 GMT
#26
Still no swiss?

hahaha. oh man. The admins have 0 clue how to run a TCG tournament

If they have ipads, easily B03 Swiss Rounds, 6 Rounds(if 128 or less players) cut to the top16.
Ideally for fairness sake, they should cut the the top32 and continue on to find the top4.

Its not hard dreamhack, stop getting SC2 admins to run Hearthstone. Its not the same thing.

Will not pay my way to sweden for 2 coinflips.
Paragleiber
Profile Joined June 2009
413 Posts
May 20 2014 18:43 GMT
#27
It is not quite clear to me yet if the whole tournament will be on iPad or only from the round of 16 and if you have to bring your own PC and/or iPad for any part of it. Some clarification on that would be nice. The fact that you have to buy a BYOC spot for the part before the round of 16 makes it sound like you need to bring your own PC, which would be hard for somebody who has to fly in, unless he owns a laptop.
http://www.twitter.com/Paragleiber
ptz
Profile Joined January 2005
Romania251 Posts
May 20 2014 20:21 GMT
#28
the admins for the 2 competitions (sweden and bucharest) are different. I have no clue what their setup is and what time and how many computers they have to run things, but we did the best we could with what we had. Sorry if it wasnt good enough for high standards, but we will improve next time.
Eggi
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
478 Posts
May 20 2014 20:32 GMT
#29
Well if its a BYOC/providing ipads for the event, then I do not see why NOT doing swiss is a problem.

Swiss is best for competitors(since you are playing a card game) and since it is a live-event people will not be inclined to drop-out of the tournament like they do in online swiss tournaments.

You can improve now and just change the format, absolutely nothing changes.


lol.
DifuntO
Profile Joined November 2011
Greece2376 Posts
May 20 2014 21:09 GMT
#30
On May 21 2014 05:32 Eggi wrote:
Well if its a BYOC/providing ipads for the event, then I do not see why NOT doing swiss is a problem.

Swiss is best for competitors(since you are playing a card game) and since it is a live-event people will not be inclined to drop-out of the tournament like they do in online swiss tournaments.

You can improve now and just change the format, absolutely nothing changes.


lol.



128 double elim bo3, then round of 16 group stage double elim bo3 and then bo5 single elim.

Seems like a great format to me.I understand that as a player you would prefer swiss format but this is way better for the viewers,more exciting and still fair.
All I do is Stim.
ptz
Profile Joined January 2005
Romania251 Posts
May 20 2014 23:01 GMT
#31
im not in charge of the hs tournament in jonkoping, i had a little input in Bucharest and thats it. Atm im not even sure if the 128 bracket will be played on ipads or just the final 16. Sure if its all on ipads and they have 128 of them they could do swiss, but somehow i doubt that is the case. Prolly they have around 30-40 computers, the 128 man bracket is set for 2 days, with bo3 double elim thats how long it would take to get 4 winners out of that.
willoc
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1530 Posts
May 20 2014 23:42 GMT
#32
On May 20 2014 06:26 Kitkatzy wrote:
First event the entire team curse roster will be in attendance ^_^. I am super excited to experience my first dreamhack!

Good luck dude
Be bold and mighty forces will come to your aid!
worosei
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia198 Posts
May 21 2014 07:58 GMT
#33
yeah, for this swiss just works so much better... albeit i guess its harder for rounds to continue if one group is particularly slow...
Eggi
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
478 Posts
May 21 2014 14:45 GMT
#34
On May 21 2014 06:09 DifuntO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 05:32 Eggi wrote:
Well if its a BYOC/providing ipads for the event, then I do not see why NOT doing swiss is a problem.

Swiss is best for competitors(since you are playing a card game) and since it is a live-event people will not be inclined to drop-out of the tournament like they do in online swiss tournaments.

You can improve now and just change the format, absolutely nothing changes.


lol.



128 double elim bo3, then round of 16 group stage double elim bo3 and then bo5 single elim.

Seems like a great format to me.I understand that as a player you would prefer swiss format but this is way better for the viewers,more exciting and still fair.


How is it more exciting/better for viewers?
Its a tournaments its about the players. Swiss allows for people who are good but have bad luck still get through.
A B03 Swiss will get the best players through, rather than the lucky good players. In Swiss, 128+ tournament, you can go 0-2 to 5-2 and still make top cut(however many rounds you have)

If it is a BYOC(which it seems) there seems to be no reason why they cannot do swiss other than bad admining.
DifuntO
Profile Joined November 2011
Greece2376 Posts
May 21 2014 15:58 GMT
#35
On May 21 2014 23:45 Eggi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 06:09 DifuntO wrote:
On May 21 2014 05:32 Eggi wrote:
Well if its a BYOC/providing ipads for the event, then I do not see why NOT doing swiss is a problem.

Swiss is best for competitors(since you are playing a card game) and since it is a live-event people will not be inclined to drop-out of the tournament like they do in online swiss tournaments.

You can improve now and just change the format, absolutely nothing changes.


lol.



128 double elim bo3, then round of 16 group stage double elim bo3 and then bo5 single elim.

Seems like a great format to me.I understand that as a player you would prefer swiss format but this is way better for the viewers,more exciting and still fair.


How is it more exciting/better for viewers?
Its a tournaments its about the players. Swiss allows for people who are good but have bad luck still get through.
A B03 Swiss will get the best players through, rather than the lucky good players. In Swiss, 128+ tournament, you can go 0-2 to 5-2 and still make top cut(however many rounds you have)

If it is a BYOC(which it seems) there seems to be no reason why they cannot do swiss other than bad admining.


It is more exciting because every match is important.Since it's double elim you get 2 chances which is fair and it also guarantees that the best players will advance.Of course there will be upsets but that's fine,it's a card game.
All I do is Stim.
Paragleiber
Profile Joined June 2009
413 Posts
May 22 2014 22:50 GMT
#36
They now clarified it: http://www.dreamhack.se/dhs14/2014/05/21/hearthstone-tournament-expanding-to-256-players/

Note: To participate in the live qualifier at DreamHack Summer 2014 you need to have a computer seat BYOC ticket & bring your own computer or laptop. The group stage and single elimination playoffs is played in a tournament area on iPads provided by DreamHack.
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