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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
February 03 2014 18:08 GMT
#581
I don't see any problems. You outplayed him.
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obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
February 03 2014 18:36 GMT
#582
Do people run flare? Feels kinda useless since removing stealth matters once every hundred games, and no one runs secrets anymore. Feels like I'm holding onto the card forever against classes with the potential for sekrets.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
February 03 2014 18:38 GMT
#583
On February 04 2014 01:42 dzony wrote:
Is mage really so strong in arena? Almost every time I drafted a mage deck, I got destroyed due to not being able to hold the board. And I tried playing mage many times. Any tips? For me hunter is the most reliable class in arena, followed by warrior and warlock. By the way, since the UTH buff I didn't get this card even once.

I've found and heard the exact opposite... hunter is the most unreliable class to draft in arena. It's very easy to get screwed with none of the premium class cards and get stuck with a lot of junk.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
February 03 2014 18:57 GMT
#584
Hunter is hit or miss. The one time I played Hunter I drafted three Unleash The Hounds and thought I was gonna have some easy wins. Turns out my draft didn't offer me any other beasts except for a single Raptor and I ended up going 0-3 because none of my cards had any synergy at all.

Likewise, had I drawn some decent cards I probably would have gotten at least 10 wins because having three UTH is just insanely strong if your other cards aren't duds.

Lots of classes have the same issue. Draw no Swipes as a Druid and you're gonna have a tough time. Draw 3-4 and, well, enjoy your 12 wins. The difference is that Druid can still be strong even with a bad draft because the class cards work so well on their own. Hunter class cards... not so much.
I HAVE 5 TOAST POINTS
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
February 03 2014 20:30 GMT
#585
On February 04 2014 03:36 obesechicken13 wrote:
Do people run flare? Feels kinda useless since removing stealth matters once every hundred games, and no one runs secrets anymore. Feels like I'm holding onto the card forever against classes with the potential for sekrets.

only time i have seen it was in hunter rush decks where they use it for the card draw.
PardonYou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1360 Posts
February 03 2014 20:43 GMT
#586
On February 04 2014 03:36 obesechicken13 wrote:
Do people run flare? Feels kinda useless since removing stealth matters once every hundred games, and no one runs secrets anymore. Feels like I'm holding onto the card forever against classes with the potential for sekrets.

Good against hunters and secret-Mages, but otherwise useless. I ran it for awhile and replaced it with freezing trap.
Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1244 Posts
February 03 2014 20:45 GMT
#587
Flare is good in the constructed mirror. Pretty bad in arena.
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10655 Posts
February 03 2014 23:23 GMT
#588
Flare is amazing in constructed. Instant advantage if you go against a Mage/Pally/Hunter. It cycles itself out and is only a 1 mana cost.

Also miracle Rogue is gaining a lot of popularity lately, Flare is very useful against Conceal.
Skol
Mortal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
2943 Posts
February 04 2014 04:29 GMT
#589
as people have said, Flare is horrendous in arena. I personally think it's shit in constructed too (too situational/inconsistent) but I rarely, if ever, play hunter. having played against about 10-20 in the last few days, whenever I see it played, it's almost exclusively useless/just cycles a card.
The universe created an audience for itself.
RagequitBM
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada2270 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-04 04:41:35
February 04 2014 04:41 GMT
#590
I think it would be cool if they had different balance for arena. Flamestrike is ridiculous in arena, but in constructed its just so-so
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Mortal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
2943 Posts
February 04 2014 04:47 GMT
#591
change the rarity of the card- easiest fix there is and blatantly obvious unless you work for blizzard.
The universe created an audience for itself.
RagequitBM
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada2270 Posts
February 04 2014 04:56 GMT
#592
Yeah. Change the rarity of the card in arena only would be the best solution.

Also I found out I really don't care about health enough. Just went 7 - 3 with a deck that should have gone 10+ because I would attack with my weapon too much. too bad
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obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
February 04 2014 04:58 GMT
#593
Yeah, Flamestrike is fucking bullshit in Arena. Still quite annoying in constructed.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Mortal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
2943 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-04 05:12:19
February 04 2014 05:11 GMT
#594
i think it should be a big threat, but not as easily accessible as it is currently. make it rare and that helps the arena issue. or if you really want, put cone of cold back to it's original cost, and make it epic for all I care. mage has been the best in arena for way too long, and it's just started to lose favor.
The universe created an audience for itself.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
February 04 2014 15:38 GMT
#595
It would be nice purely for the fact they would have to choose flamestrike over two other rares as opposed to what are probably much worse commons/basics.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
February 04 2014 16:28 GMT
#596
On February 04 2014 14:11 Mortal wrote:
i think it should be a big threat, but not as easily accessible as it is currently. make it rare and that helps the arena issue. or if you really want, put cone of cold back to it's original cost, and make it epic for all I care. mage has been the best in arena for way too long, and it's just started to lose favor.

There are a lot of cards that *should* be rare by nature of the effect they provide, but they are basic so making them rare and taking them out of the standard card pool would affect what cards are available to new players.

Although the appropriate intermediate solution would be to keep the basic cards the same but assign rarities to all the basics for the purpose of arena.
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dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
February 04 2014 19:16 GMT
#597
swipe is a better aoe than flamestrike--more bang for the buck. i am more worried about druids with 3-4 swipes than mages with 3-4 flamestrikes or even blizzards.
Mortal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
2943 Posts
February 04 2014 21:23 GMT
#598
generally it's the complimentary mage cards coupled with fs that make the class suck to play against. frostbolt, fireball, blizzard, pyro (lesser extent now). all that utility sucks to have to deal with, whereas while swipe is good, it's not all that shit in one class. at least that's my opinion. you could make the case that lightening storm is a better aoe, but shamans don't have all the removal.
The universe created an audience for itself.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
February 04 2014 21:31 GMT
#599
Lightning Storm is also a rare. It's far less likely to see a Lightning Storm.

Though Shaman removal is fine. Lightning Bolt, Hex, Stormforged Axe, Rockbiter Weapon, plus more situational removal like Earth Shock and Forked Lightning.
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Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
February 04 2014 21:43 GMT
#600
You forgot Lava Burst.
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