Hearthstone General Discussion

On December 28 2013 17:09 caelym wrote:
what are people's thoughts on loot hoarder vs novice engineer? what decks would you put one or the other in (or both)?

I've been finding loot hoarder lackluster because whether I'm playing an aggro or control deck, I want cards immediately. As a result, when deck space is tight, I'd choose novice over hoarder. In other cases, I'd prefer to have faerie dragon instead of loot hoarder. Any loot hoarder fans want to win me over?

On December 28 2013 16:43 trinxified wrote:

Constructed definitely isn't fun anymore. Some neutral cards are too strong at the moment that leads to similar decks over and over again:
Arena is a bit better, so that's good. But still there's a whole different issue with that too. Will leave that for next time.

Yeah it's a QQ post, but it's worth bringing up again.

On December 28 2013 17:32 trinxified wrote:


Loot Hoarder is good to play really early since it could trade with the usual 3/2's around. Could also kill totems, mirror images, and a few other common class minions like Argent Protector, etc...

Basically if Loot Hoarder gets to trade or at least attack hero once, it's already good. Novice Engineer has a hard time trading well.

On December 29 2013 00:07 fabiano wrote:
I've some general questions:

1. Is there a release date for this?
2. Is it currently on open beta? If so, how can I get access?
3. Is it possible to have fun without spending a single dime on the game?

On December 28 2013 18:32 Chairman Ray wrote:


I find that the biggest weakness of it is that it's a liability late game. Top decking a loot hoarder means that you don't receive the draw until next turn, which easily turns the game in the opponent's favor if they are drawing a useful card every turn. Another weakness of loot hoarder is that it doesn't combo with brewmasters, and it's weak to silence.

I still really like loot hoarder for the reasons that you stated though. In arena, if you open loot hoarder and you trade with it, then you are ahead by a card, which is nice.

Overall in constructed, I always choose novice engineer over loot hoarder, but I wouldn't mind picking a loot hoarder in arena if the other choices are mediocre.

On December 28 2013 16:43 trinxified wrote:
To sorta continue from the "What do you think about Hearthstone thread?",

Constructed definitely isn't fun anymore. Some neutral cards are too strong at the moment that leads to similar decks over and over again:

2x Shattered Sun Cleric
2x Dark Iron Dwarf
2x Defender of Argus
2x Argent Commander
2x Harvest Golem

There's a few more that are like that, but just listed the most standard ones out there. Just sucks that some class cards are just outright terrible and are forced to use these neutrals too much.

And also, card rarity is just all over the place now. Some of the best cards are free, while other epics are just outright terrible. It's just not consistent all around...

Arena is a bit better, so that's good. But still there's a whole different issue with that too. Will leave that for next time.

Yeah it's a QQ post, but it's worth bringing up again.

On December 29 2013 00:34 Chezus wrote:


1. Not a concrete one I think, like Q1/Q2 2014
2. It's in closed beta atm, open beta should be soon (like 2-3 weeks away). You can opt-in for the beta on the beta signups page on battle.net. Alternatively, try this Reddit thread. Or you can get a friend to gift you a key, or something.
3. Yes, absolutely. But being competitive is another thing entirely. To be competitive you either have to be amazing at arena, or spend money

On December 29 2013 03:09 Gotuso wrote:


This is a good thing though. If all the rares, epics and legendaries are much better then the free or common cards then the game really becomes pay to win. The fact that you can make a competative deck without epics or legendaries is good game design. Magic the Gathering does this as well. Some rares or mythics are absolute thrash. The idea of an epic or legendary card shouldn't be that it is better, but that it does something weird, special or flashy.

As for certain neutral cards being too strong, I think this is just a natural step in games. Certain things will always rise to the top. If you nerf Harvest Golem people might just switch to Scarlet Crusader. Having good neutral cards also helps in arena and makes it easier to switch classes in constructed. If only the class cards where any good then it would be pretty costly to switch from a rogue deck to a druid deck for example. With strong neutral cards you can carry some of them over and still make a decent deck.
That said I do agree that it can be a bit boring seeing the same cards over and over. But hopefully this will be fixed by introducing new cards.