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Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
April 15 2014 11:29 GMT
#1601
On April 15 2014 10:25 flamewheel wrote:
Because I don't have a functioning laptop, can somebody test this?

Jaraxxus gets set at 1 HP to Repentance then has Alexstrasza used on him. Does he go to 15? I'd suspect not, but might as well be thorough.

if you mean wether or not alexstrasza can be used on Jaraxxus, yes, that is possible , he will go up to 15. I dont understand why the Repentance is important in this scenario?
This is our town, scrub
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
April 15 2014 11:37 GMT
#1602
On April 15 2014 20:29 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2014 10:25 flamewheel wrote:
Because I don't have a functioning laptop, can somebody test this?

Jaraxxus gets set at 1 HP to Repentance then has Alexstrasza used on him. Does he go to 15? I'd suspect not, but might as well be thorough.

if you mean wether or not alexstrasza can be used on Jaraxxus, yes, that is possible , he will go up to 15. I dont understand why the Repentance is important in this scenario?

Apparently Jaraxxus has a max health, unlike every other hero. You can't heal him above 15 hp. Repentance sets a minion's health to 1 hp, and so theoretically you shouldn't be able to heal Jaraxxus above 1 hp in that case.

Although for testing I wouldn't use Alexstrasza, since the card says "set health to 15", regardless of max health limitations. Though you could use a healing minion to test out the theory.
Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
April 15 2014 12:23 GMT
#1603
Yeah thats what I mean, it just sets him to 15, doesnt matter if repentance or not...
This is our town, scrub
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
April 15 2014 12:41 GMT
#1604
On April 15 2014 20:37 Conti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2014 20:29 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
On April 15 2014 10:25 flamewheel wrote:
Because I don't have a functioning laptop, can somebody test this?

Jaraxxus gets set at 1 HP to Repentance then has Alexstrasza used on him. Does he go to 15? I'd suspect not, but might as well be thorough.

if you mean wether or not alexstrasza can be used on Jaraxxus, yes, that is possible , he will go up to 15. I dont understand why the Repentance is important in this scenario?

Apparently Jaraxxus has a max health, unlike every other hero. You can't heal him above 15 hp. Repentance sets a minion's health to 1 hp, and so theoretically you shouldn't be able to heal Jaraxxus above 1 hp in that case.

Although for testing I wouldn't use Alexstrasza, since the card says "set health to 15", regardless of max health limitations. Though you could use a healing minion to test out the theory.

Healing definitely cannot set Jaraxxus above 15. Seems like nobody actually knows. Will have to test this at some point.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-15 12:49:40
April 15 2014 12:48 GMT
#1605
On April 15 2014 20:29 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2014 10:25 flamewheel wrote:
Because I don't have a functioning laptop, can somebody test this?

Jaraxxus gets set at 1 HP to Repentance then has Alexstrasza used on him. Does he go to 15? I'd suspect not, but might as well be thorough.

if you mean wether or not alexstrasza can be used on Jaraxxus, yes, that is possible , he will go up to 15.

Happened to me a while ago

Is this not what you mean?
This is our town, scrub
tuestresfat
Profile Joined December 2010
2555 Posts
April 15 2014 13:01 GMT
#1606
On April 15 2014 21:48 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2014 20:29 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
On April 15 2014 10:25 flamewheel wrote:
Because I don't have a functioning laptop, can somebody test this?

Jaraxxus gets set at 1 HP to Repentance then has Alexstrasza used on him. Does he go to 15? I'd suspect not, but might as well be thorough.

if you mean wether or not alexstrasza can be used on Jaraxxus, yes, that is possible , he will go up to 15.

Happened to me a while ago

Is this not what you mean?

I think he sees Alexstrasza's effect as a 'healing' or 'damage' ability. Like if Repentance was used on a minion, you can't heal it back to its original health, it stays at 1hp no matter what. I guess he was wondering if Jaraxxus would be capped at 1hp.

While I don't know for sure, I would assume a Jaraxxus hit by Repentance would not be able to gain life via Earthenring Farseer, Siphon Soul, or any other healing, but Alexstrasza should still set his hp to 15.
Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
April 15 2014 13:07 GMT
#1607
alextrasya is not saying anything about healing or damaging or how many lhp you have had before or anything, it just says set to 15 and thats what it does. repentance or not
This is our town, scrub
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-15 19:13:56
April 15 2014 19:06 GMT
#1608
On April 15 2014 22:07 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
alextrasya is not saying anything about healing or damaging or how many lhp you have had before or anything, it just says set to 15 and thats what it does. repentance or not

The "set to 15" effect registers as damage done/damage healed when you look at the move history.

Though that may just be a limitation of the history bar. When you discard your hand with Deathwing's battlecry, for example, the history of the card shows Deathwing as having "killed" those cards. Same with other "discard a card" effects, etc Soulfire, Succubus.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
April 15 2014 19:17 GMT
#1609
yeah thats just a limitation of the history bar
This is our town, scrub
shueprod
Profile Joined April 2014
0 Posts
April 15 2014 20:13 GMT
#1610
find out why hunters is the best in heartstone


User was warned for this post
JackDragon
Profile Joined February 2011
525 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-15 21:50:52
April 15 2014 20:51 GMT
#1611
On April 16 2014 04:06 flamewheel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2014 22:07 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
alextrasya is not saying anything about healing or damaging or how many lhp you have had before or anything, it just says set to 15 and thats what it does. repentance or not

The "set to 15" effect registers as damage done/damage healed when you look at the move history.

Though that may just be a limitation of the history bar. When you discard your hand with Deathwing's battlecry, for example, the history of the card shows Deathwing as having "killed" those cards. Same with other "discard a card" effects, etc Soulfire, Succubus.

From patch notes 1.0.0.4217
Alexstrasza’s ability no longer counts as a healing effect when raising the target’s health to 15 and will not affect Armor when lowering health to 15.
http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/blog/11868609
So yes there is definitely a possibility that it could be the case that it sets hp to 15. But truth to be told I find the chance that you survive to you turn again very low.

Alright I got a friend to try this with, and it turns out Alexstrasza does set Jaraxxus hp to 15 after Repentance.
Came Norrection
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada168 Posts
April 15 2014 22:02 GMT
#1612
On April 16 2014 05:13 shueprod wrote:
find out why hunters is the best in heartstone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2zKOzQgtQo

That wasted 2 mins of my life.
"The lie is just a great story ruined by the truth."
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
April 16 2014 05:37 GMT
#1613
On April 16 2014 05:51 JackDragon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2014 04:06 flamewheel wrote:
On April 15 2014 22:07 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
alextrasya is not saying anything about healing or damaging or how many lhp you have had before or anything, it just says set to 15 and thats what it does. repentance or not

The "set to 15" effect registers as damage done/damage healed when you look at the move history.

Though that may just be a limitation of the history bar. When you discard your hand with Deathwing's battlecry, for example, the history of the card shows Deathwing as having "killed" those cards. Same with other "discard a card" effects, etc Soulfire, Succubus.

From patch notes 1.0.0.4217
Show nested quote +
Alexstrasza’s ability no longer counts as a healing effect when raising the target’s health to 15 and will not affect Armor when lowering health to 15.
http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/blog/11868609
So yes there is definitely a possibility that it could be the case that it sets hp to 15. But truth to be told I find the chance that you survive to you turn again very low.

Alright I got a friend to try this with, and it turns out Alexstrasza does set Jaraxxus hp to 15 after Repentance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8ZI3Q0P3_E

Many thanks for testing!
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
April 16 2014 05:45 GMT
#1614
On April 16 2014 14:37 flamewheel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2014 05:51 JackDragon wrote:
On April 16 2014 04:06 flamewheel wrote:
On April 15 2014 22:07 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
alextrasya is not saying anything about healing or damaging or how many lhp you have had before or anything, it just says set to 15 and thats what it does. repentance or not

The "set to 15" effect registers as damage done/damage healed when you look at the move history.

Though that may just be a limitation of the history bar. When you discard your hand with Deathwing's battlecry, for example, the history of the card shows Deathwing as having "killed" those cards. Same with other "discard a card" effects, etc Soulfire, Succubus.

From patch notes 1.0.0.4217
Alexstrasza’s ability no longer counts as a healing effect when raising the target’s health to 15 and will not affect Armor when lowering health to 15.
http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/blog/11868609
So yes there is definitely a possibility that it could be the case that it sets hp to 15. But truth to be told I find the chance that you survive to you turn again very low.

Alright I got a friend to try this with, and it turns out Alexstrasza does set Jaraxxus hp to 15 after Repentance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8ZI3Q0P3_E

Many thanks for testing!

So, you can't heal Jaraxxus beyond 1 hp with, say, Voodoo Doctor, when he was hit with Repentance?
Navillus
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1188 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-16 05:53:46
April 16 2014 05:53 GMT
#1615
On April 15 2014 20:37 Conti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2014 20:29 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
On April 15 2014 10:25 flamewheel wrote:
Because I don't have a functioning laptop, can somebody test this?

Jaraxxus gets set at 1 HP to Repentance then has Alexstrasza used on him. Does he go to 15? I'd suspect not, but might as well be thorough.

if you mean wether or not alexstrasza can be used on Jaraxxus, yes, that is possible , he will go up to 15. I dont understand why the Repentance is important in this scenario?

Apparently Jaraxxus has a max health, unlike every other hero. You can't heal him above 15 hp. Repentance sets a minion's health to 1 hp, and so theoretically you shouldn't be able to heal Jaraxxus above 1 hp in that case.

Although for testing I wouldn't use Alexstrasza, since the card says "set health to 15", regardless of max health limitations. Though you could use a healing minion to test out the theory.


Every hero has max health, aside from Jaraxxus they are all max at 30 and only able to go over with armor (which doesn't actually raise their health just their effective life total).
"TL gives excellent advice 99% of the time. The problem is no one listens to it." -Plexa
JackDragon
Profile Joined February 2011
525 Posts
April 16 2014 06:40 GMT
#1616
On April 16 2014 14:45 Conti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2014 14:37 flamewheel wrote:
On April 16 2014 05:51 JackDragon wrote:
On April 16 2014 04:06 flamewheel wrote:
On April 15 2014 22:07 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
alextrasya is not saying anything about healing or damaging or how many lhp you have had before or anything, it just says set to 15 and thats what it does. repentance or not

The "set to 15" effect registers as damage done/damage healed when you look at the move history.

Though that may just be a limitation of the history bar. When you discard your hand with Deathwing's battlecry, for example, the history of the card shows Deathwing as having "killed" those cards. Same with other "discard a card" effects, etc Soulfire, Succubus.

From patch notes 1.0.0.4217
Alexstrasza’s ability no longer counts as a healing effect when raising the target’s health to 15 and will not affect Armor when lowering health to 15.
http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/blog/11868609
So yes there is definitely a possibility that it could be the case that it sets hp to 15. But truth to be told I find the chance that you survive to you turn again very low.

Alright I got a friend to try this with, and it turns out Alexstrasza does set Jaraxxus hp to 15 after Repentance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8ZI3Q0P3_E

Many thanks for testing!

So, you can't heal Jaraxxus beyond 1 hp with, say, Voodoo Doctor, when he was hit with Repentance?

No, his max hp is one. Just like normal minions he can not be healed above that amount.
Madouc
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany0 Posts
April 16 2014 09:17 GMT
#1617
On April 13 2014 07:44 ricecake wrote:
I don't understand the tracking card, especially when used turn 1. Theoretically, your deck should only have strong cards, right? And if that's the case, why would you want to discard two of your cards, especially when there is no board context to tell which cards are best.

I'm rank 13 btw, so maybe this isn't something which happens at high levels.


If you play tracking at turn 1 it's already a really bad hand that you've got. In general you always want a Onedrop as Hunter, preferably the Leper Gnome.

Hunter Aggro has a straight forward plan with not very much variation in it: 1.) Onedrop 2.) Steady 3.) Bow! (Or 3 Drop) 4.) Trap & Steady 5.) Buzz Wolf UtH 6.) Steady, 2 drop, trap or 3 drop 1 drop 7.) Any finisher like Kill Command; Leeroy whatever.

If they play Tracking in 1 they are desperate, it normally fits much better into turn 4 if you dont have a 2drop, or turn 5 if you play a 3drop there.

Pretty easy - hence succesful.
"Up the shut fuck, you must!" - Yoda
Kanaz
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark658 Posts
April 16 2014 10:39 GMT
#1618
Is it not possible to get bonus streak stars after rank 4?
It seems that i don't get it atm, can't remember if i got it in previous seasons.
tuestresfat
Profile Joined December 2010
2555 Posts
April 16 2014 11:43 GMT
#1619
On April 16 2014 19:39 Kanaz wrote:
Is it not possible to get bonus streak stars after rank 4?
It seems that i don't get it atm, can't remember if i got it in previous seasons.

It is not possible starting from rank5
Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-16 11:46:55
April 16 2014 11:46 GMT
#1620
nvm
This is our town, scrub
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