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On August 24 2013 23:19 AndyJay wrote:
Kripp's got to be enjoying this. He normally has 2- 3k viewers but has been getting 10k + this week just because of hearthstone. Amusingly kripp was going to play ff 14 this week but hasn't because they put an nda on the freaking open beta and early access. Blizzard on the other hand go out of their way to invite strangers to their beta and have 30k people watching it daily.
Well, to be honest. Kripp is no stranger to Blizzard.
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Are they gonna divide the game into different servers? Like an NA one and an EU one for instance. Since latency isn't an issue I don't really see the need but you never know.
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On August 24 2013 10:44 ZiRn1tRa wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2013 08:04 calgar wrote:On August 24 2013 07:51 I_Love_Bacon wrote:On August 24 2013 07:34 HolydaKing wrote:
Saw that Pyroblast coming miles ago. Trump didn't play that safe, lol. Then again, I don't know if he would've won if he killed the minion that damaged him every round. You can see it coming, it doesn't mean the play was wrong. If you're at low teen hitpoints against a mage and then just decide to put on the breaks completely all it means is you'll survive a turn or 2 longer... you'll still die. The object is to win; not delay losing. Being ok with making a correct losing move is a key point that separates good and bad players. You (have to) hit on 16 when the dealer shows a 10 even though you know you're probably going to bust. No, making a correct move is a key point that separates good and bad players. Being ok with it means you don't care about the game. However good player will still repeat that play in the future, if it was right thing to do, just didn't work out last time. Maybe we're just mincing words here, but I think you're wrong about what separates a good and bad player. What you say is a shallow observation that the dichotomy exists whereas I'm suggesting why it does. Making a correct move isn't what really separates a good and bad player. Good players make good moves so that makes them good is circular reasoning. Yes, a good player will be more likely to make good moves, and more often, and a bad player will probably make poorer moves, but a bad player can still make good moves, or stumble into playing a great game on occasion. The difference is that a good player understands strategy, tactics, and more complex ideas behind the moves, whereas a bad player has a more limited grasp. A good player can't magically play good moves, he has to understand why a move is good and think about it.
Trump isn't good because he makes good moves, he is good because he understands ideas like mana curves, what makes cards strong, balances a deck, how to trade efficiently, when to trade or not, etc. When I say you should be ok with a correct losing move I mean that if you truly understand it as objectively your strongest choice, then you played optimally and should have no second-thoughts about your choice. If you lose after playing your optimal hand combo then it is outside of your control at that point (although you likely could have played better earlier), which is possible in games like HS. You can care about the game and still be ok with losing after playing the strongest option so you're wrong there. Trump was ok with losing after making his play that turn because he said "it was still the right call" several times instead of saying "nooo i should have armored to stop pyroblast from killing me since i KNEW it was there". Sure you can be disappointed, or bummed, or wish it had gone a different way, but you know there was nothing more you could have done. It goes without being said that a good player will repeat the best play.
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Dont like the current streamers at all. Need someone to step it up that has beta key.
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On August 25 2013 05:29 Jaug wrote:
Dont like the current streamers at all. Need someone to step it up that has beta key.
Go watch a trump vod  That's what I've been doing today
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is this the same as the wow tcg but made online or totally different?
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So I haven't really been paying attention to Hearthstone at all until I saw literally every pro LoL player streaming it (Meteos, Chaox, etc). I opted in with my Bnet account to try to get a key, but how hard is it to get one? Are they very rare, or has Blizzard been handing them out pretty regularly? I really want to play this.
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Pretty difficult to get one.
There is a wave on Tuesday. There hasn't been a wave since last Friday(initial beta release) and the following Monday.
Make sure you signed up for the Facebook giveaway as well.
Good luck!
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On August 25 2013 05:29 Jaug wrote:
Dont like the current streamers at all. Need someone to step it up that has beta key.
check out Noxious.. hes decent
http://twitch.tv/noxious_hs
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On August 25 2013 05:33 Levistus wrote:
is this the same as the wow tcg but made online or totally different?
idk if you bothered to read the op, but no. its completely different.
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great news! 1st HS tournament about to go down today! in 2 hours to be precise
'In the recent hours im glad to announce that a lot of streamers accepted their invites, such as DoaSC, TrumpSC, ArchonTheWizard, Chobralol, Noxious_HS, Evilsourcegaming, Kripparrian and Locodoco!'
this should be good! cant wait
http://hearthstoneplayers.com/hsplayers-first-beta-tournament/
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On August 25 2013 05:33 Levistus wrote:
is this the same as the wow tcg but made online or totally different?
Hearthstone has a lot of similarities to the WoW TCG, but is a different card game. Here are some examples.
Similar:
- Play as a hero class. Your class dictates what spells/abilities you have access too.
- Can choose which target your minions attacks. Hearthstone Taunt and WoW TCG Defender are similar.
- A lot of WoW TCG artwork is reused in Hearthstone.
Differences:
- No separation between Horde and Alliance allies. Can play a deck with Orc and Dwarf minions together.
- Hearthstone decks must be 30 cards, rather than 60+.
- No quests. Players earn +1 resource every turn to maximum of 10.
- Can only play cards during your turn, which eliminates the need for the "stack" (as far as I can tell).
- Card trading is not available.
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On August 25 2013 02:38 calgar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2013 10:44 ZiRn1tRa wrote:On August 24 2013 08:04 calgar wrote:On August 24 2013 07:51 I_Love_Bacon wrote:On August 24 2013 07:34 HolydaKing wrote:
Saw that Pyroblast coming miles ago. Trump didn't play that safe, lol. Then again, I don't know if he would've won if he killed the minion that damaged him every round. You can see it coming, it doesn't mean the play was wrong. If you're at low teen hitpoints against a mage and then just decide to put on the breaks completely all it means is you'll survive a turn or 2 longer... you'll still die. The object is to win; not delay losing. Being ok with making a correct losing move is a key point that separates good and bad players. You (have to) hit on 16 when the dealer shows a 10 even though you know you're probably going to bust. No, making a correct move is a key point that separates good and bad players. Being ok with it means you don't care about the game. However good player will still repeat that play in the future, if it was right thing to do, just didn't work out last time. Maybe we're just mincing words here, but I think you're wrong about what separates a good and bad player. What you say is a shallow observation that the dichotomy exists whereas I'm suggesting why it does. Making a correct move isn't what really separates a good and bad player. Good players make good moves so that makes them good is circular reasoning. Yes, a good player will be more likely to make good moves, and more often, and a bad player will probably make poorer moves, but a bad player can still make good moves, or stumble into playing a great game on occasion. The difference is that a good player understands strategy, tactics, and more complex ideas behind the moves, whereas a bad player has a more limited grasp. A good player can't magically play good moves, he has to understand why a move is good and think about it. Trump isn't good because he makes good moves, he is good because he understands ideas like mana curves, what makes cards strong, balances a deck, how to trade efficiently, when to trade or not, etc. When I say you should be ok with a correct losing move I mean that if you truly understand it as objectively your strongest choice, then you played optimally and should have no second-thoughts about your choice. If you lose after playing your optimal hand combo then it is outside of your control at that point (although you likely could have played better earlier), which is possible in games like HS. You can care about the game and still be ok with losing after playing the strongest option so you're wrong there. Trump was ok with losing after making his play that turn because he said "it was still the right call" several times instead of saying "nooo i should have armored to stop pyroblast from killing me since i KNEW it was there". Sure you can be disappointed, or bummed, or wish it had gone a different way, but you know there was nothing more you could have done. It goes without being said that a good player will repeat the best play.
Eloquently said. It's all about making the best possible move given your current situation and the likelihood that it would improve based on your drawing potential, versus the likelihood of your opponent holding key cards which would easily dispose of your strategy.
As you begin to identify the type of deck your opponent is playing, you can start to analyse cards they hold onto for a long time and patterns of play, which good players use to assist them in making optimal decisions based on knowledge of all possible outcomes. It's really not too dissimilar to poker in that regard, albeit far more complex.
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I want a key 
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kripps stream is so crazy.. as soon as he comes on, he gets 10k+ viewers and keeps them for 13+ hours. thats insane. when he streamed path of exile he had like 2-3k max
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On August 25 2013 07:50 Enox wrote:great news! 1st HS tournament about to go down today! in 2 hours to be precise Show nested quote +'In the recent hours im glad to announce that a lot of streamers accepted their invites, such as DoaSC, TrumpSC, ArchonTheWizard, Chobralol, Noxious_HS, Evilsourcegaming, Kripparrian and Locodoco!' this should be good! cant wait http://hearthstoneplayers.com/hsplayers-first-beta-tournament/
So its starting now?
I like watching Trump play the most. He had a pretty sick 8-0 run (ended up 9-1) with a rogue deck (ofc).
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seems like trump is in a different tournament which is next week. but kripp is in this one. hes playing his 1st game right now
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Sorry for being late to the party. Can anyone share the steps to get into this beta? I see people saying something about it not being available to EU yet. How do you get yourself eligible for the wave on Tuesday? I just finished updating my beta preferences, updating my mail adress. any other steps? And what about the facebook giveaway, what is that ?
Thank you.
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EPT
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