mmm tl. While I don't agree with full disclosure(this is actually the first I heard of it) it seems mighty counter productive to hack a bunch of sites to battle security companies.... Hey guys let's stop the money grabbing security companies by causing more havoc!! that way they consumers have more reason to buy their stuff!! LOL.

Medzo

United States627 Posts

July 11 2009 04:24 GMT

#31

On July 11 2009 13:14 DeathSpank wrote:
mmm tl. While I don't agree with full disclosure(this is actually the first I heard of it) it seems mighty counter productive to hack a bunch of sites to battle security companies.... Hey guys let's stop the money grabbing security companies by causing more havoc!! that way they consumers have more reason to buy their stuff!! LOL.

Pretty much QFT.

b3h47pte

United States1317 Posts

July 11 2009 05:29 GMT

#32

Everything in the TL dota thread seems normal? O.o

Edit: Ah wait. I'm a couple hours late. that might be why

mahnini

United States6862 Posts

July 11 2009 05:40 GMT

#33

On July 11 2009 13:24 Medzo wrote:

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Pretty much QFT.

well not quite. they want hackers to stop publishing the exploits they find which means any potential security holes that are found are going to be kept among hackers themselves as opposed to publishing them on a website. general consensus is that it's better when hackers publish exploits because it pushes the companies to fix the security holes or enables knowledgeable administrators to avoid making themselves vulnerable to the exploit. for some reason though these anti-sec people think the security industry is unjustly profiting from the full disclosure of exploits.

Chef

10810 Posts

July 11 2009 05:46 GMT

#34

On July 11 2009 12:20 konadora wrote:
Looks like imageshack found out, I think they're restoring the images

Oh man, imageshack's images are messed up for two hours and everyone abandons them

I still use them. I enjoy that I don't have to sign up for anything to upload files. AFIK you need to make an account to use photobucket... blaah. Then again, I haven't used photobucket in ten million years.

United States496 Posts

July 11 2009 05:46 GMT

#35

uh. Wut's bad in full disclosure ? Could someone explain me in few words ? Cuz I've read the wiki and I can't see wut's bad in : telling everyone which part sucks so someone can fix that asap.

Or maybe I've missed the point.

konadora

Singapore66366 Posts

July 11 2009 05:48 GMT

#36

On July 11 2009 14:46 Chef wrote:

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Oh man, imageshack's images are messed up for two hours and everyone abandons them

I'm going to use flickr from now on -_-

epicdoom

United States489 Posts

July 11 2009 06:06 GMT

#37

Just wait till they attack 4chan It's a war waiting to happen

rgfdxm

United States239 Posts

July 11 2009 06:13 GMT

#38

Full disclosure is not "big companies exploiting to make money." Opponents of full-disclosure are essentially advocating security by obscurity. I'm not an expert in computer security but I find it an interesting topic and loosely follow some news and blogs. Full disclosure has its drawbacks but the alternative is almost certainly worse.

It's like proposing that your country's scientists should stop publishing research openly because other people might use your ideas to build something or discover something new. The entire goal of sharing the information is that the leaders in the field have overwhelmingly decided that it's worth the costs in order to advance the field as a whole.

Without full disclosure potential exploits will be far more numerous and someone who knows what they're doing can do a lot more damage once they've found one. I'd gladly trade allowing script kiddies to get their hands on noob exploits for making the entire field of security more robust overall.

kaleidoscope

Singapore2887 Posts

July 11 2009 06:32 GMT

#39

Oh no wonder.. I thought i had posted a wrong link of the pic..