EPTWhy don't people believe in aliens? - Page 10
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illu
Canada2531 Posts
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SamuelKim
United States14 Posts
On July 04 2009 07:56 illu wrote: Just for the references, I also keep an open mind that god may exist - no different from aliens. Great! Seeing as the gravitational constant and Earth's climate, revolution around the sun, and distance from it proves that there's such a low chance of Earth devloping such conditions suitable for life by itself, there's some sort of sentinent life outthere. + Show Spoiler + The Overmind. ㅋ_ㅋ Sure, it might not necessarily have to be God but something had to have boosted that chance through intelligent design or else the entire Earth forming as it was only had like... 0.000000000000000001 or something like that. | ||
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Grommit
United States162 Posts
On July 04 2009 08:10 SamuelKim wrote: Great! Seeing as the gravitational constant and Earth's climate, revolution around the sun, and distance from it proves that there's such a low chance of Earth devloping such conditions suitable for life by itself, there's some sort of sentinent life outthere. + Show Spoiler + The Overmind. ㅋ_ㅋ Sure, it might not necessarily have to be God but something had to have boosted that chance through intelligent design or else the entire Earth forming as it was only had like... 0.000000000000000001 or something like that. Let's say you're right and there is only a "0.000000000000000001" percent chance that a planet can have conditions suitable for life. There are approximately 400 billion stars in the milky way galaxy. Let's say each one of these had just 5 planets...not 9 (screw you all, I still count pluto). Now let's remember that there are an estimated 125 billion galaxies in the known universe. I don't want to do the math, but you can clearly see that even 0.000000000000000001% of that would leave an enormous amount of planets suitable for life. Some form of intelligent design did not have to guide the development of life on Earth | ||
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Black Gun
Germany4482 Posts
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h3r1n6
Iceland2039 Posts
On July 04 2009 08:20 Grommit wrote: Let's say you're right and there is only a "0.000000000000000001" percent chance that a planet can have conditions suitable for life. There are approximately 400 billion stars in the milky way galaxy. Let's say each one of these had just 5 planets...not 9 (screw you all, I still count pluto). Now let's remember that there are an estimated 125 billion galaxies in the known universe. I don't want to do the math, but you can clearly see that even 0.000000000000000001% of that would leave an enormous amount of planets suitable for life. Some form of intelligent design did not have to guide the development of life on Earth According to those numbers, the epected value of planets with life is 500 (if I typed it in correctly) Yes, there are aliens. Somewhere on the galaxy some single cell organisms probably chill around. No, there are no Effort like looking aliens that fly around and abduct people for anal exams. | ||
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MK
United States496 Posts
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Shindrah
United States74 Posts
Also there is some crazy stuff on fallen angels, or angels who betrayed god and try to lead humans away from god, and they are far superior intelligently and aren't of the flesh. And being of the flesh is the most often where aliens and the bible contradict amirite? anyways, leading people away from this planet to worship the angel who betrayed god is definitely a good way for the angel to keep people away from the teachings of god. Obviously the angel would have the intelligence to travel away from earth. It also would explain pyramids and mayan temples and stuff, angels could easily craft that stuff  Like I said I didn't do much research on the stuff, I'm probably way off, but I have a fairly strong faith in god so I don't want to waste my time learning something like this when I'll soon know anyways. Interesting stuff none the less. Pretty much, I don't believe in this stuff, but I thought some might find it interesting, it's a possibility none the less I guess. Just sayin people, think outside the box, not all theories on aliens contradict the bible. Oh and hey, first post here on TL  | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
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Shindrah
United States74 Posts
On July 08 2009 00:50 IdrA wrote: whats it like being insane? My ability to research a topic certainly doesn't make me insane. | ||
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ghermination
United States2851 Posts
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Shindrah
United States74 Posts
On July 08 2009 01:16 ghermination wrote: All i can possibly say on this entire subject is that in (what is believed to be) an infinite universe, everything which is possible will happen an infinite number of times. This means inhabitable planets, alien races, etc. Then the question is, what is possible? That basically brings us back to square one >.> | ||
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ParasitJonte
Sweden1768 Posts
On July 04 2009 07:09 CharlieMurphy wrote: I'm not saying the use of the word supernatural is best used to describe aliens, but if 'natural world' means planet earth. Then it makes sense to a degree. Clearly, we have a different understanding of what the term "natural world" means (in what universe, in what classrom, in what class, would it ever refer to planet earth?). In swedish, supernatural and paranormal are both translated to simply "övernaturlig" (well, there is a word "paranormal" in swedish too but the meaning is the same as "övernaturlig"). To be clear: the reason I laughed was because she excluded aliens from being apart of the natural world and then concluded that she doesn't believe in such things. That's a poor, and backwards way of reasoning. | ||
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Kim_Hyun_Han
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VorcePA
United States1102 Posts
On July 08 2009 00:50 IdrA wrote: whats it like being insane? That was totally called for. On topic: the Fermi paradox is a good basis for not believing in aliens. The Fermi Paradox The apparent size and age of the universe suggests that many technologically advanced extraterrestrial civilizations ought to exist. However, this hypothesis seems inconsistent with the lack of observational evidence to support it. It obviously doesn't completely disprove the existence of aliens, but if there are (or were) any, why haven't we picked up any form of proof? Radio waves would be the first sign; our radio waves started back in the 1930s, so they've traveled almost 100 light years around us by now. Failing that, if there was an intelligent race nearby (nearby being relative to the size of the milky way galaxy [approximate diameter is 100,000 light years]) that's simply been keeping quiet, we know that no intelligent life exists in a 50 LY radius around our planet (the time it takes for a radio wave to reach an extrasolar planet, and then a response to be sent back). I do think life is out there other than just on our planet, but I think the Drake Equation is astronomically high in its figures. | ||
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saritenite
Singapore1680 Posts
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Igakusei
United States610 Posts
On July 01 2009 08:30 HuskyTheHusky wrote: It is almost directly a religious thing. If there are life forms on other planets it completely goes against everything conservative religions strive to teach. Most people who realize just how vast the universe really is are smart enough to consider the fact that our planet isnt the only one a perfect distance from a heat source to contain life. I would think that if you believe in Creation, you're even more likely to believe in aliens than your average atheist. I mean, if God created life once, why not elsewhere as well? Assuming God created angels and who knows what other heavenly life forms, that implies that He's been creating since long before we came around. | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On July 08 2009 01:08 Shindrah wrote: My ability to research a topic certainly doesn't make me insane. please show me your research on fallen angels | ||
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[X]Ken_D
United States4650 Posts
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Shindrah
United States74 Posts
I read some stuff on the internet, that is how I researched it. It's not like I found remnants of fallen angels or something man. Anyways I do believe trolling is against forum rules and your first post was trolling. Maybe even this one but we can't prove that. | ||
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MK
United States496 Posts
the answer is pretty like : who says people don't believe ? people are just waiting for more information. | ||
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