EPTWhale Wars - Page 18
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BushidoSnipr
United States910 Posts
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BlackJack
United States10478 Posts
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Syben
United States512 Posts
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Josri
Netherlands219 Posts
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poundcakes
Norway239 Posts
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On June 04 2011 11:59 BushidoSnipr wrote: At first i thought this show was awesome...then I figured out it was part fake. Forever alone. Of course part of it is fake. Why do you think they call it reality television? :[ | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
FRANKFURT, Germany (AP) — An environmental activist group known for its confrontations with whalers and fishermen says its founder has been arrested in Germany for extradition to Costa Rica for allegedly interfering with a shark fishing boat. Paul Watson of Sea Shepherd Conservation Society was arrested Saturday in Frankfurt, the U.S.-based group said in a statement Sunday. Sea Shepherd said Watson is accused of violating of ships traffic during filming of a documentary in 2002. The group said the incident took place in Guatemalan waters, when Sea Shepherd encountered an illegal shark finning operation run by a Costa Rican ship, the Varadero. Sea Shepherd said it told the Varadero's crew to stop and head to port to be prosecuted. The crew accused Sea Shepherd of trying to kill them. Source | ||
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
Very serious accusation though, I wonder if it will stick. I know nothing of the laws of the country. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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cLAN.Anax
United States2847 Posts
Always thought these guys were pretty... er,..."fishy." Lol. (I know, whales are mammals, not fish...) The response should be obvious, one way or the other. Either the Japanese are legally permitted to hunt for whales, or they aren't. Which side is actually right, on the other hand, sounds debateable. Apparently, the International Whaling Commission (IWC) created a whale sanctuary, which conveniently surrounds the entirety of Antarctica, and what looks like pretty much everywhere else whales would be when they head South. (source) I'm not sure if this organization should be passed off as unofficial, or if it's actually backed by the representative countries' governments, like a UN for whales. If it's unofficial and the waters are internationally free, then Japan does no legal wrong. If the IWC's sanctuary is to be internationally enforced, then Japan's undoubtedly in trouble, but the Sea Shepherds are going about this in a terribly hypocritcal and unsuitable manner. Sooooo, anyone watching Season 5? I try to glance at the last 10 or so minutes, when stuff actually happens. X-D | ||
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logikly
United States329 Posts
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robjapan
Japan104 Posts
The Japanese whalers have the legal right to do what they are doing and are strictly monitored by an external international organisation, I know this because one my of students is a fisherman and the reason he is studying English is because of the need to communicate with said organisation. One thing I will add is that whaling to the Japanese is seen as a traditional activity and no more right or wrong than killing any other animal for food. | ||
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cLAN.Anax
United States2847 Posts
On July 15 2012 14:01 robjapan wrote: The Japanese whalers have the legal right to do what they are doing and are strictly monitored by an external international organisation, I know this because one my of students is a fisherman and the reason he is studying English is because of the need to communicate with said organisation. Personally, I hope you're right. I believe Japan should have the right to hunt if they so choose, and if they've got a maximum quota to not go over, that's adequately enforced by the international community, then they're doin' it right. Curious, though: you've stopped consuming all meat, but support Japan's practices. (I'm one who's fine with any meat, by the way) Is it to support treating all animals equally, livestock or not? Sorry, I'm merely confused. O_o | ||
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robjapan
Japan104 Posts
It's just my choice and I firmly believe that all people are free to do the same. | ||
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
On July 15 2012 13:48 logikly wrote: Been watching this show since season 1. I do not find myself a green person but this cause i do support. wish I could be their medic This has as much to do with .. "green sentiments" as throwing red paint on people wearing fur has to do with saving furry animals. The biggest tipoff is it's televised. I'm a staunch believer that no form of continual protest can be so exciting as to merit a seasons worth of footage. Glad to hear the knuckleheads were charged for criminal actions. They're not as embarrassing as PETA but not for lack of trying. | ||
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Praetorial
United States4241 Posts
But the Sea Shepard society are idiots. They take violent measures, and do nothing on their show except show off that they are hippies and want to save whales. I would not want to be associated with them and honestly think that they do deserve a classification of terrorist. I call throwing objects at another ship with the intent to harm, and doing so repeatedly and with deliberate intent, terrorism. | ||
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cLAN.Anax
United States2847 Posts
On July 15 2012 23:32 robjapan wrote: I think it's wrong to kill animals and eat them but I'm not going to go around telling people what they can and can't do. It's just my choice and I firmly believe that all people are free to do the same. Ah, mmkay. Thanks for clearing that up. :-) Thought this was a good laugh, if it hasn't been shown yet, that is: + Show Spoiler + Well, shoot. Can't embed it. Just watch it on YouTube, then. :-D On July 15 2012 23:48 Praetorial wrote: I am very much in favor of conservation, and the killing of whales is abhorrent and should be stopped. I'm in favor of conservation too; I don't support the reckless killing of any animal that is threatened to extinction, or close to threatened or whatever. However, with discretion, I don't have a problem with hunting whales for food. I don't see killing any other animal is less abhorrent than killing a whale, except just on a proportionally much larger scale. Good stewardship, in my opinion, says, "Do use, don't abuse." | ||
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giftdgecko
United States2126 Posts
The taking of these whales isn't for research because to get the information you need you shouldn't have to kill any whales, let alone the numbers they set. The fact that it is often called a quota kinda tells the story of how some people feel. Fishermen have quotas, scientists have goals. If we can capture and release great whites to get the scientific information we need are whales really that much more difficult they have to die? The IWC generally opposes the Japanese whaling system for the main reason that it is making a profit off the killing of a practice supposedly under a moratorium. With South Korea possibly following the Japanese example of bending the rules, hopefully the IWC will grow some testes and make black and white rules and limitations so that the whaling done will truly be for the benefit of scientific research and the preservation of these species. | ||
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cLAN.Anax
United States2847 Posts
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
The Sea Shepherd Fleet has located all five vessels of the Japanese whale poaching fleet, including the Japanese factory ship, the Nisshin Maru, inside the Southern Ocean Whale Sanctuary. The Steve Irwin, The Bob Barker and The Sam Simon are now in pursuit of the whaling fleet, driving them away from their intended poaching grounds, disrupting their illegal hunt, and preparing to shut down their whale-killing operations. The Steve Irwin’s helicopter first located the Nisshin Maru at 64°44' S, 162°34' W, in New Zealand’s sovereign waters in the Ross Dependency Antarctic region, and inside the internationally recognised Southern Ocean Whale Sanctuary. Sea Shepherd has obtained compelling footage and images of three dead protected Minke Whales on the deck of the Nisshin Maru, taken at the time the factory ship was first located. A fourth whale, believed to be a Minke, was being butchered on the bloodstained deck. Source | ||
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