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Crushgroove
Profile Joined July 2010
United States793 Posts
February 17 2011 18:52 GMT
#321
On June 26 2009 17:30 Meta wrote:
Those terrorists should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. They have no right to vandalize other people's boats because they disagree ethically with what they're doing. If I happened to be a japanese whaler trying to make a living and those assholes tried to board my boat I would straight up kill them.



I second.

In international waters, its perfectly within your rights to kill someone who attacks your vessel. If its a nation's military attacking you then its considered an act of war and there are other implications.... but its still within your rights. There are no international laws or agreements which would make it unacceptable to kill this guys and sink their pirate ship disguised as eco-friendly bullshit. I'm sure they refuse all the money they make on this show right? Right?
[In Korea on Vaca] "Why would I go to the park and climb a mountain? There are video games on f*cking TV!" - Kazuke
Lorken
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand804 Posts
February 17 2011 20:03 GMT
#322
I watched a few of these episodes and I personally believe these guys are ridiculous and although I'm not a huge fan of whales or anything, but if they're going to be protesting something, they should at least do it so they don't make everyone else who believes in the same thing look like retards as well.

also:
On February 18 2011 00:32 BasilPesto wrote:
By that line of thought, dogs and cats are fair game too. What prevents us (well, in the Western world) from eating our pets?


There is nothing at all stopping you except for your morals or whatever. Last year, there was this guy on the news who killed his dog and had it going on a spit roast in his back yard and his neighbor called the SPCA and shit, but it turns out, as long as the animal didn't suffer (it didn't) then it's perfectly legal to kill and eat any of your pets. And the guy was all like "Is there something wrong with what I'm doing?"
LOUD NOISES!!!
RoosterSamurai
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan2108 Posts
February 17 2011 21:51 GMT
#323
On June 25 2009 15:49 Manifesto7 wrote:
I can't stand this group. They exploit peoples fond sentiments about whales and furry animals to engage in criminal behavior. They deserve no better than the pirates off the coast of Somalia for their reckless endangerment of human life.

This show is akin to terrorist funding. Part of the reason they act so outlandishly is to get the show, get money, and go out again to stir up their shit. The Sea Shepard (with Japanese whaling) and the Farley Mowat (crashing into Canadian coast guard vessels during the seal hunt) should be dealt with in the same manner they treat others.

I agree with Manifesto. They're using environmentalism as an excuse to act like terrorists. They do a lot of bad things that they don't show on this show, like throwing nets in ship props, and throwing acid on the whalers.
pikajew93
Profile Joined February 2011
Great Britain50 Posts
February 17 2011 21:55 GMT
#324
south park episode to this is so funny
RoosterSamurai
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan2108 Posts
February 17 2011 22:29 GMT
#325
On February 18 2011 06:55 pikajew93 wrote:
south park episode to this is so funny

Wow....Good first post -.-
Lorken
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand804 Posts
February 18 2011 00:54 GMT
#326
On February 18 2011 07:29 RoosterSamurai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2011 06:55 pikajew93 wrote:
south park episode to this is so funny

Wow....Good first post -.-

I was gonna mention how epic that episode was and how accurately it portrays the Paul Watson but I thought someone else might have.
LOUD NOISES!!!
BasilPesto
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia624 Posts
February 18 2011 03:58 GMT
#327
On February 18 2011 03:45 Roeder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2011 00:32 BasilPesto wrote:
On February 17 2011 23:46 Roeder wrote:
Food chain. Do you know it?


By that line of thought, dogs and cats are fair game too. What prevents us (well, in the Western world) from eating our pets?



At first dogs and cats were used for a purpose of work and not as house pets.
Cats kept rats and mice away - and dogs had a lot of jobs - so maybe they 'evolved' into becoming a companions instead of dinner.

But yeah, what does exactly prevent us (except law in some countries)?

I've heard dogmeat tastes great, but I'm not going to eat my lovely golden retriever because of that.


That's pretty much what I was trying to lead into, stuff like morals, ethics, etc.

On February 18 2011 05:03 Lorken wrote:
I watched a few of these episodes and I personally believe these guys are ridiculous and although I'm not a huge fan of whales or anything, but if they're going to be protesting something, they should at least do it so they don't make everyone else who believes in the same thing look like retards as well.

also:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2011 00:32 BasilPesto wrote:
By that line of thought, dogs and cats are fair game too. What prevents us (well, in the Western world) from eating our pets?


There is nothing at all stopping you except for your morals or whatever. Last year, there was this guy on the news who killed his dog and had it going on a spit roast in his back yard and his neighbor called the SPCA and shit, but it turns out, as long as the animal didn't suffer (it didn't) then it's perfectly legal to kill and eat any of your pets. And the guy was all like "Is there something wrong with what I'm doing?"


I believe different locations will have different laws on whether dogs can be eaten or not. A quick check revealed my state has such legislation preventing the eating of dog meat.
"I before E...*sunglasses*... except after C." - Jim Carrey
Body_Shield
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada3368 Posts
February 18 2011 12:40 GMT
#328
Japan urges international action against Sea Shepherd
Japan has called on Australia, New Zealand and the Netherlands to take "effective measures" against the anti-whaling group, Sea Shepherd.

Japan stopped its whale hunt on Friday, saying "harassment" by the US-based Sea Shepherd activists had made it impossible to continue. The hunt had been halted temporarily last week, after Sea Shepherd boats blocked the stern of Japan's mother ship, preventing any harpooned whales from being loaded on. Sea Shepherd has been chasing the Japanese fleet for weeks in the icy seas of Antarctica. Japan's fisheries minister said the group's actions made it "difficult to ensure the safety of the crew". Japan's foreign minister said it was "extremely regrettable" that Sea Shepherd was not stopped.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12502006
So, five-card stud, nothing wild... and the sky's the limit
KillerPenguin
Profile Joined June 2004
United States516 Posts
February 18 2011 12:47 GMT
#329
What gets stated a lot "They are cheating international laws by pretending to be a research ship"

What never gets stated "There are a million minke whales and they only kill .1%"
http://www.escapeintolife.com/
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
February 18 2011 13:42 GMT
#330
It sounds like the upcoming season (and possibly last season) of whale wars should be quite interesting. All to past seasons were just face palm worthy of how the Sea Shepherds failed time and time again and accomplished nothing. From sending people out on Zodiack boats and getting lost, to their boats breaking down, running out of fresh water, destroying their own Zodiack boat, having their prop fowlers sheared through, getting pelted by water cannons, having their hugely expensive boat sunken, etc. etc. I'm ready for some grade A drama this season.
mcbrite
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany229 Posts
February 18 2011 14:13 GMT
#331
Their hearts are in the right place... If you don't care about whales, maybe watch "The Grove". It's about thousands of dolphins being tortured and slaughtered in Japan and how the locals try to cover it up... Amazing movie...

I DO agree however that the SeaDudes methods are pretty amateur.

LOVED that sleek boat that got sunk, in my eyes that was attempted murder by the Japanese and anybody who saw it would be hard pressed to disagree with my statement...
RoosterSamurai
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan2108 Posts
February 18 2011 14:16 GMT
#332
On February 18 2011 23:13 mcbrite wrote:
Their hearts are in the right place... If you don't care about whales, maybe watch "The Grove". It's about thousands of dolphins being tortured and slaughtered in Japan and how the locals try to cover it up... Amazing movie...

I DO agree however that the SeaDudes methods are pretty amateur.

LOVED that sleek boat that got sunk, in my eyes that was attempted murder by the Japanese and anybody who saw it would be hard pressed to disagree with my statement...

They don't tell you in the show what these eco-terrorists actually do to whaling vessels. The Japanese whalers aren't going to know that this is some film crew. Typical anti-whaling eco-terrorists take it as far as throwing acid on crew members of whaling vessels. If I were captain, I would avoid letting them get anywhere near my ship.
Shockk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany2269 Posts
February 18 2011 14:26 GMT
#333
On February 18 2011 03:52 Crushgroove wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2009 17:30 Meta wrote:
Those terrorists should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. They have no right to vandalize other people's boats because they disagree ethically with what they're doing. If I happened to be a japanese whaler trying to make a living and those assholes tried to board my boat I would straight up kill them.



I second.

In international waters, its perfectly within your rights to kill someone who attacks your vessel. If its a nation's military attacking you then its considered an act of war and there are other implications.... but its still within your rights. There are no international laws or agreements which would make it unacceptable to kill this guys and sink their pirate ship disguised as eco-friendly bullshit. I'm sure they refuse all the money they make on this show right? Right?


I'm no expert on international or marine law, but I'm pretty sure you're not "within your rights to kill someone" just because you're in international waters. In self-defense maybe, but with everything else, some form of universal law will apply, and if it's only that of the countries whose flags the ships are sailing under.
RoosterSamurai
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan2108 Posts
February 18 2011 14:28 GMT
#334
On February 18 2011 23:26 Shockk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2011 03:52 Crushgroove wrote:
On June 26 2009 17:30 Meta wrote:
Those terrorists should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. They have no right to vandalize other people's boats because they disagree ethically with what they're doing. If I happened to be a japanese whaler trying to make a living and those assholes tried to board my boat I would straight up kill them.



I second.

In international waters, its perfectly within your rights to kill someone who attacks your vessel. If its a nation's military attacking you then its considered an act of war and there are other implications.... but its still within your rights. There are no international laws or agreements which would make it unacceptable to kill this guys and sink their pirate ship disguised as eco-friendly bullshit. I'm sure they refuse all the money they make on this show right? Right?


I'm no expert on international or marine law, but I'm pretty sure you're not "within your rights to kill someone" just because you're in international waters. In self-defense maybe, but with everything else, some form of universal law will apply, and if it's only that of the countries whose flags the ships are sailing under.

He didn't say you could kill someone because you're in international waters... Did you read his post? =/
He said you can kill someone who attacks your vessel, which you can.
Shockk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany2269 Posts
February 18 2011 14:35 GMT
#335
He didn't talk about self-defense, he didnt specify the nature of the "attack" and he talked about there "being no laws or agreements which would make it unacceptable to kill them and sink their ship".

I'm pretty sure he didn't have "killing" in mind just as a last measure of self-defense, with all other options exhausted.
RoosterSamurai
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan2108 Posts
February 18 2011 14:38 GMT
#336
On February 18 2011 23:35 Shockk wrote:
He didn't talk about self-defense, he didnt specify the nature of the "attack" and he talked about there "being no laws or agreements which would make it unacceptable to kill them and sink their ship".

I'm pretty sure he didn't have "killing" in mind just as a last measure of self-defense, with all other options exhausted.

If someone attacks your vessel, and you kill them, it is self defense by default. I don't really understand what you're getting at, because now your argument is really beginning to sound convoluted....
Body_Shield
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada3368 Posts
February 18 2011 15:13 GMT
#337
On February 18 2011 23:13 mcbrite wrote:
Their hearts are in the right place... If you don't care about whales, maybe watch "The Grove". It's about thousands of dolphins being tortured and slaughtered in Japan and how the locals try to cover it up... Amazing movie...


That's The Cove, The Grove is a retail and entertainment complex in Los Angeles. That would be highly suspicious if the Japanese shipped a bunch of dolphins into downtown LA and started culling them just off 3rd street.
So, five-card stud, nothing wild... and the sky's the limit
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
June 04 2011 01:05 GMT
#338
Third season premiere is tonight.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Thrill
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
2599 Posts
June 04 2011 02:13 GMT
#339
On June 04 2011 10:05 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Third season premiere is tonight.


Watched the trailer and got hyped as f* - yet again these tools are at sea! I've intentionally avoided spoiling myself by not keeping track on their progress as i imagine this season will be the most starved for content yet. Last season you knew those morons would let their million dollar speedboat be a stationary target for the whalers to ram after reading about it in the papers, this time around i'm mainly hoping for more rivalry in leadership and general bickering (in lieu of action this usually becomes the case).

Also - thing to note: Peter 'the Hammer' Hammarstedt, if he played Starcraft, would be Orb.
Orb, should he ever turn activist, he'd be Peter the Hammer. True story!
DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5079 Posts
June 04 2011 02:57 GMT
#340
Peter 'the Hammer' Hammarstedt


Does throwing balloons filled with stinky stuff really qualify as hammering?
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