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0xDEADBEEF
Profile Joined September 2007
Germany1235 Posts
February 22 2009 11:51 GMT
#21
On February 22 2009 19:34 Nytefish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2009 19:28 fight_or_flight wrote:
Why do citizens let this stuff happen? (and its not just in NZ)


Geeks on the internet make up a small proportion of a country's population and an even smaller proportion of "willing to protest" citizens. Everyone should be concerned with these kind of laws, but they're just ignorant.


Yeah, exactly. This is sad, because it's hard to prevent such things when the majority doesn't know or care about it (at first).
However, once this law is in effect and many are (falsely) accused and lose their internet access, there will be massive outcries, I'd bet.

Reading stuff like this makes me happy to live here, where we're still fairly reasonable about all copyright-related things.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
February 22 2009 11:53 GMT
#22
On February 22 2009 19:28 fight_or_flight wrote:
Why do citizens let this stuff happen? (and its not just in NZ)
This took us/me completely by surprise. It hasn't been until recently that this bill has hit the internet/media and the stupidity of it exposed. We were taken by surprise t.t I hope other nations won't fall into the same trap. Although, there were protests before it was signed but i mean, once a govt's in power theres nothing you can do about it.
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
H
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
New Zealand6138 Posts
February 22 2009 11:54 GMT
#23
On February 22 2009 19:28 fight_or_flight wrote:
Why do citizens let this stuff happen? (and its not just in NZ)


What do you want me to do about it? :|
I only learned of this last week. I'm waiting to see what happens when businesses/universities get their internet shut down.
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silynxer
Profile Joined April 2006
Germany439 Posts
February 22 2009 12:07 GMT
#24
An awesome way to fight this would be mass civil disobedience, turning yourself in for torrenting and asking the ISPs to shut down your internet, or producing proof that business/university networks have been used in illegal activities and asking for their immediate shutdown.
I mean they cannot really be selictive enforcing the law can they?
Racenilatr
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2756 Posts
February 22 2009 12:16 GMT
#25
dam that sucks for all the people who live in NZ
poilord
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Germany3252 Posts
February 22 2009 12:19 GMT
#26
Tough luck; seems like the days of leeching for you guys are pretty much over.

I find it hard to understand though, how someone's internet access can be denied simply on the basis of suspect and without real evidence ( if I understood Plexa's post correctly). Basicly a carte blanche for the ISPs?

This law might actually scare a lot of people off, which could have more effect on piracy than the actual law itself. However that's just a wild guess.
Victor
Profile Joined November 2005
New Zealand1016 Posts
February 22 2009 12:26 GMT
#27
Oh crap, whats the point in having unlimited bandwith if i can't use it to download?
Centric
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1989 Posts
February 22 2009 12:42 GMT
#28
Wow that is terrible. Sorry all you NZ guys.
Super serious.
GinNtoniC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Sweden2945 Posts
February 22 2009 13:13 GMT
#29
On February 22 2009 19:37 GTR-2-Go wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2009 18:41 haduken wrote:
Let me just remind all the aussies out there of the iinet lawsuit.

iinet, the third and perhaps the most successful ISP in Australia outside of Telstra and optus (The two big telecom corps that everyone had to put up with for some many years) is being sued by 7 media companies (Warner, sony blah blah blah) for guess what? doing nothing to stop bittorrenting.

They are really out to make iinet an example. If iinet loses the case, i don't see why government won't introduce laws similiar to the OP.

If iinet loses, i certainly will join any demonstrations, TIME TO THROW A FEW CHAIRS!


if this happens, i hope it wont be before 2011.

then i can move out after i do my hsc to a more internet friendly country, like japan or sweden =]

there's an ongoing trial against ThePiratebay.org in Sweden. Depending on the outcome, we could see some serious lawchanges in Sweden in the near future.
The trial still looks uncertain, although slightly in the defenders' favor.
Huge fan of JulyZerg, HonestTea and that guy Kim Taek Yong.
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
February 22 2009 13:22 GMT
#30
If this becomes real, one option is to stop BTing and start newsgrouping.

It is faster and have decent content. I think the idea is that it is not easy for authorities to track people this way.

what the government is effectively doing is limiting people and controlling how contents are distrabuted in their respective countries.

I am willing to pay for legal downloads. What i am not ok with is being limited to what i can see or listen to on the internet. The only way for me to get contents is by downloading, sometimes that has to resort to BT or newsgroup because the local provider can not fulfill that.

People should be educated but with the amount of retards that i see every day at work, i feel that the battle has already being lost.
Rillanon.au
HamerD
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom1922 Posts
February 22 2009 13:57 GMT
#31
People who try to keep themselves from being frauded on a regular basis by kids who want more stuff than they can earn fairly, spending money on drugs or t shirts or ice cream instead of on the music they regularly listen to; are now in the same group as the mafia? What a joke.

Filesharing where people obtain a song without ever paying for it, that if the technology did not exist they would pay for is ridiculous. There are two sides to the pendulum. Right now we are on the side of completely rampant internet piracy; and in the 70's and 80's it was on the side of completely unfair pricing from record companies and ludicrous opulence for the industry. We need to get to a centre of normality. While I don't necessarily agree that trying to stop and silence a huge degree of internet filesharing is the best way forward, it certainly is the quickest and least radical; and let's face it, aside from porn, copyright infringement probably accounts for most peoples' download operations.

I very much doubt we would all know so much about torrents and internet filesharing if there weren't free stuff to get out of it.

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simfarm
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Ireland75 Posts
February 22 2009 14:14 GMT
#32
that's really neat plexa. thanks for sharing with us.
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6642 Posts
February 22 2009 14:32 GMT
#33
On February 22 2009 23:14 simfarm wrote:
that's really neat plexa. thanks for sharing with us.

Not sure if 'neat' is the right term for this.

That really sucks for you New Zealanders. What is it with internet regulation in your part of the world?
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
February 22 2009 15:33 GMT
#34
Up until recently NZ has been one of the freest countries in the world - but this looks to change that =/
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Ingenol
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1328 Posts
February 22 2009 15:53 GMT
#35
I like how people says "why do citizens let this happen?" as if anyone in any country anywhere has any real power to change the course of their government.
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
February 22 2009 15:55 GMT
#36
On February 23 2009 00:33 Plexa wrote:
Up until recently NZ has been one of the freest countries in the world - but this looks to change that =/


anarchy now.
Life?
Ingenol
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1328 Posts
February 22 2009 15:56 GMT
#37
I will however also add that downloading copywritten things is stealing, period. You are getting value for nothing. I vehemently disagree that the ISP/government/anyone other than the person who commits the act should be held responsible for this, but the individual who does it should be punished.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
February 22 2009 16:02 GMT
#38
On February 23 2009 00:56 Ingenol wrote:
I will however also add that downloading copywritten things is stealing, period. You are getting value for nothing. I vehemently disagree that the ISP/government/anyone other than the person who commits the act should be held responsible for this, but the individual who does it should be punished.
Yes, fair enough. But this law is ridiculous - if you are even suspected of committing such acts your internet access is removed. That is independent whether the person is guilty or not - which is just wrong.
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Proposal
Profile Joined December 2007
United States1310 Posts
February 22 2009 16:42 GMT
#39
That's horrible

Did the government already begin to execute this law??
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
February 22 2009 17:01 GMT
#40
Holy shit, that is messed up. Can't believe they think they're actually in the right about this.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
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