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Why do Video Game-to-Movie Adaptions Suck? - Page 6
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United States1929 Posts
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Smorrie
Netherlands2922 Posts
Book-to-Movie adaptions seem to do way better in general, because the storytelling is way better and way more in depth. They often get criticism for taking the life out of the story, not being able to catch the right vibe of the book, or leaving out too much of the original story. I think when looking at VG-to-Movie adaptions we're facing the exact opposite problems. How do you blow life into a story that has hardly ever been there, how do you catch the right vibe of a game which has been great because of it gameplay, how can you a good storyline with great dialogues when they have never been there? Next to all that, games already give visual expectations which is another limitation. Movie makers who take such a job upon them are facing big challenges and it the outcome can't be expected to be any good. Even though some movies seem to do a good job, they're still miles behind. Some really quick comparisons I made in my head while reading this thread: Hitman - The Bourne Identity Doom - Predator SF / MK - Old boy Tomb Raider - Gladiator The left part of the list doesn't even come close to the right part of the list, while the right side of the list is just a random list of nice movies that came up in my head. A Starcraft or Warcraft movie could do really good and has a lot of potential, because of all the storytelling around both games. If there would ever be a World of Starcraft game, the problem would probably be the variance of races/classes but definitely not the storytelling. The lore around both these games even live on in books. So in general I would say that VG-to-Movie adaptions are just doomed to suck. We're all just waiting for a brilliant screenwriter to pop up. Also, Dead or Alive is probably the worst vg movie ever. Sorry for the long post but I guess I find it an interesting subject :D | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On February 12 2009 18:27 MrHoon wrote: IMO, I think most Video Game stories in general are very bad. Its just that we tend to forget about how mediocre it is because of the gameplay. And fuck you all, Super Mario Brothers was my favorite movie of alltime. Agreed. "Deep" by video game story standards is still pretty superficial and generic. And that Doom FPS sequence is horrible. Its like watching Halo with a mouse/keyboard on easy, not Doom 3 on Hell. | ||
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Vex
Ireland454 Posts
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Bub
United States3518 Posts
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ohlala
Germany232 Posts
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On February 11 2009 07:35 pheer wrote: Game storylines are interesting because you, the player, are a part of them. I'm sure if you removed the part where you actually play the game and treat the game story as a movie itself, it would be much more boring. This is probably what happens. But this doesn't offer any excuse for Doom. That movie sucked so bad I couldn't watch more than 10 minutes. Pff, I've seen it more than once - I like it  My expectations weren't high tho, so maybe that helped.It's a million times better than the travesty that is AvP: Requiem. I like almost anything with aliens and a vaguely survival horror theme and still hated this movie. Oh and I liked Silent Hill as well, but I never played the game so who knows what my opinion would be if I had. I think the first Resident Evil movie is fine, second meh, 3rd sucks. There are several non-videogame based movies in the same genre that I'd put below them (I'd rather watch RE1 than Doomsday for instance ;p http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0483607/). | ||
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IzzyCraft
United States4487 Posts
Simply put 2 reasons 1 its an adaptions it's too much wrok and sacriface to make it all good like the game also unlike the game it's just storyline no plaing so guess what your storyline in teh game is shit you just never noticed 2 the same shit that makes animes into real action protrals suck big balls you arent a cartoon so you can't look and act like one. sigh streetfighting movie about chunli t-t | ||
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r0kamo
Canada34 Posts
So I finally got around to watching Tomb Raider. Here's an excerpt of my impressions: + Show Spoiler + Okay, so here’s the deal. We’ve got Lara “totally-bored-out-of-here-mind” Croft getting thrown into the midst of a conspiracy with the Illuminati by the totally coincidental discovery of a left-behind artifact her Father (Jon Voight) hid ’cause he knew she’d find it. He was a smart guy, the dad. Too bad her daughter didn’t take after him. The approach she undertakes to complete this ridiculous task left unto her makes absolutely no sense. Granted, it wasn’t like her dad’s instructions (”Get all three artifacts together in one place and destroy them!”) were exactly top notch. You’d figure that, since the task was ultimately just stop the Illuminati from gaining access to the full relic… DESTROY the part you have in your possession so the rest can’t POSSIBLY be attained! Seriously. If you have the key to something so dangerous that no one should ever be able to use it… destroy the god damned key. But no, simple solutions are too obvious and make far too much sense… The rest can be read at my blog, Foul Conversions. In other news, I still don't see how they couldn't get Vega's mask to look even marginally right in the new Street Fighter movie... nothing's more painful than poorly executed costumes or props >.<; And man, I was totally thinking about making another thread about the Half-Life 2 short film by the Purchase Brothers, but someone beat me to it! It's short films like that fill me with hope that maybe a video game to movie adaptation is actually possible. It's just too bad that the only good examples that I can think of are all low-budget short films... Hmm... *writes a blog about Escape from City 17 anyway* | ||
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NastyMarine
United States1252 Posts
On February 12 2009 13:11 jjun212 wrote: wtf are u saying? is it good or not lol, i dont know if you're agreeing or not mouth rig was terrible for all characters. Skin weights werent painted correctly for the corresponding joints. Totally ruined the movie for me. Theres nothing wrong with the storyline; the actual CG techniques ruined it for me. Its hard to explain being that I am studying all this stuff. bahhhhhhhhh forget it. | ||
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Aphelion
United States2720 Posts
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Manit0u
Poland17257 Posts
On February 12 2009 23:06 Smorrie wrote: Some really quick comparisons I made in my head while reading this thread: Hitman - The Bourne Identity Doom - Predator SF / MK - Quest (same level fight here) Tomb Raider - Indiana Jones Fixed it for you. Edit: And Silent Hill was pretty good movie overall, easily better than most horrors being released not based on VG. | ||
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PH
United States6173 Posts
Also, I heard Hitman was actually a decent movie in its own right...in any case, Ebert was more on the favorable than dismissive side concerning it. | ||
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TheFoReveRwaR
United States10657 Posts
Silent Hill was absolute trash. | ||
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TheFoReveRwaR
United States10657 Posts
On February 14 2009 03:52 IzzyCraft wrote: Why do Video Game-to-Movie Adaptions Suck? Simply put 2 reasons 1 its an adaptions it's too much wrok and sacriface to make it all good like the game also unlike the game it's just storyline no plaing so guess what your storyline in teh game is shit you just never noticed 2 the same shit that makes animes into real action protrals suck big balls you arent a cartoon so you can't look and act like one. sigh streetfighting movie about chunli t-t I don't usually pick on people for grammer, and all that crap but holy shit. You are barely even readable. Do you know what a sentence is? | ||
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LuckyFool
United States9015 Posts
On February 14 2009 03:52 IzzyCraft wrote: Why do Video Game-to-Movie Adaptions Suck? Simply put 2 reasons 1 its an adaptions it's too much wrok and sacriface to make it all good like the game also unlike the game it's just storyline no plaing so guess what your storyline in teh game is shit you just never noticed 2 the same shit that makes animes into real action protrals suck big balls you arent a cartoon so you can't look and act like one. sigh streetfighting movie about chunli t-t I see one period in all of that. one. Ow my eyes hurt. | ||
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
Metal Gear Solid has such a ridiculously deep story (look at the hours of cutscene in #4 for example :o) that i feel it could easily be adapted for film. On the other hand i think World Of Warcraft to film is going to suck. Not because the original story of the warcraft world is particiularly bad...but because when it was written it was written for games, and not to provoke depth of thought that is required for a GOOD movie. Just my opinion. | ||
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InToTheWannaB
United States4770 Posts
On February 18 2009 04:23 Kennigit wrote: I feel game to hollywood adaptations suck for the same reason that ALOT of game story lines are atrocious. In many interviews i've read, the writers and designers (of games) look directly to "mainstream" hollywood for the crafting of story lines for games for the action packed heart pumping emotion that one can only find in Lethal Weapon 4 etc....While it may work in a game (because the focus is mainly on gameplay and not the story) the reconversion to movie format leaves a dry husk that never had the initial depth to survive transitions between mediums. Metal Gear Solid has such a ridiculously deep story (look at the hours of cutscene in #4 for example :o) that i feel it could easily be adapted for film. On the other hand i think World Of Warcraft to film is going to suck. Not because the original story of the warcraft world is particiularly bad...but because when it was written it was written for games, and not to provoke depth of thought that is required for a GOOD movie. Just my opinion. Well Wing commander had hours of real movie cutscenes and had a deep backstory with books being writen on the world around it. Still they mannaged to fuck that movie up. | ||
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SweeTLemonS[TPR]
11739 Posts
On February 11 2009 08:16 zobz wrote: Resident evil was an awesome movie i dunno what you're talking about. The second one not so much but the first one was very good. Gtfo, the first one sucked balls. The second one sucked slightly smaller balls. I hate how they made that bitch the most badass person ever, too. The cops that you played as were pretty regular people doing something extraordinary, and they turned her into this superhuman. It's retarded. (I'm basing this off of games 1-3, and Code Veronica X. I haven't played the other thirty or so games that they've made for RE.) On February 11 2009 11:25 ghermination wrote: I liked the silent hill movie. I thought it was atleast passable. Yeah, that was pretty good. It wasn't exactly like any of the story lines that I could remember (but I didn't play 2 or 3 =( so maybe it was), but it conveyed the disturbing atmosphere pretty well. While I think an MGS movie would be awesome, I would rather not have them taint the series by releasing a movie of it. It's practically a movie already if you don't spend hours searching for things. And on DOOM: I kind of liked it, but I think that if I had seen it before I saw everyone calling it the worst movie ever made that I probably wouldn't have enjoyed it. It's just a mindless movie that I can waste time with. The first-person scene was really bad though. | ||
Chosi
Germany1302 Posts
There are really good Game Movies like Hitman, Mortal Kombat or Final Fantasy Avent Children and some horrible ones like Street Fighter. But in the end there are good and bad ones and the reaons movies own or fail are all the same over all genres and were mentioned in this thread before. I just posted this, because i wanted to add how much i love the hitman movie. It was made with so much love to details and it stuck the the game till the end. Remember the scene where he is just walking along in the restaurant and he walks exactly like 47 in the game. When the movie comes close to the end you could expect some cheesy "happy end" but the characters remain true to the original. Even all the explanations are pretty valid. And the lack of this is imho the main reason why game movies fail often.. If you played the game you have not only *high* but *exact* expectations. You know the settings, you know the characters and you know the story. And everytime the movie bends or breakes this expected scenario you feel dissapointed. Same thing is even more true for "based on book" films which are forced to skip and change things to fit the ussual movie lenght .. | ||
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