EPTtika if you work a 12 hour job you either don't have A.D.D or you are so well conditioned to do your job that it doesn't matter anymore
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tika if you work a 12 hour job you either don't have A.D.D or you are so well conditioned to do your job that it doesn't matter anymore | ||
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tika
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why do you even want adderall? | ||
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However, they always take it during tests, too. And that doesn't seem to work so well. Especially not for girls. If you've seen a girl cry during an exam, it's prob b/c adderall/ rit. | ||
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tika
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the questions like "are you easily angered" i can answer yes and no....when im not at work ie driving with a friend/brother/sister etc i can be extremely violently vocally aggressive about pretty much anything you can imagine. imagine the guy always shouting at the TV when he gets drunk with friends, pissing everyone off. but when im at work i have insane patience/self control, it's like i switch to a humble side of my personality due to the nature of my job (you can get fired for swearing) once you get to the lower questions of http://psychcentral.com/addquiz.htm i can answer .20 with "yes" or "yes but i've learnt to control it with very rational way of thinking that lets me filter if i want, so, no." 21. yes. 22. yes. 23. moderate (altho when im in bed, yes. infact its almost like a hobby, i just play thru senarios like "apocalypse where im one of the few survivors" or random fantasy stuff. 24. yes...sort of. about 2/3 weeks ago i practically had a full blown breakdown because of this sort of thing, but now i have been able to understand WHY my mind is going crazy and use that information to my betterment (ie some form "enlightenment") so uh got music playing and very tired again, not sure really what im typing | ||
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tika
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On November 10 2008 07:04 travis wrote: do you think you have A.D.D? why do you even want adderall? im curious how it will affect me since i have very unusual behaviour compared to for example my friends and many many coworkers. i dont think i have ADD because i know practically nothing about it, plus my behaviour seems much more complex/difficult to judge (since i have a high level of self control in certain situations ie those that i deem warrant it), hence asking for real world examples | ||
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you certainly aren't going to find out through any other means or, if you don't want to try it for whatever reason, then don't. but surely there is nothing good to come out of prolonged speculation | ||
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Motiva
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On November 10 2008 02:42 FzeroXx wrote: Placebo drug. Grow up and be responsible. ADHD isn't real. lol Placebo my ass. Amphetamines are real. Trust me. Try some... Adderall = govt engineered speed = 4 different Amphetamine salts combined to help you become synthetically motivated. I enjoy the drug, I've abused it plenty over the years. I can't get too into it because I don't like a lot of the side effects, like not sleeping, eating, and a lot of my compulsive behavior becomes worse (Biting nails, Clenching jaw, I smoke all my weed up  I've also experienced anxiety when I've taken it and then had nothing to do but watch tv/browse TL ect because I feel like i need to be doing something more productive. ) lmao....It's fun for SC, +25APM ezwin. Whether ADHD is real or not, i won't argue, but i'm inclined to agree that's it's not properly diagnosed and all that jazz.... Growing up and being responsible is off topic. lmao. | ||
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Motiva
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use it for all your psychoactive needs. EFFECTS LIST # POSITIVE * increased alertness * increased motivation * increased talkativeness * positive mood shift, sense of well-being NEUTRAL * reduced appetite (anorexia) * dilated pupils * flushing * loss of coordination * restlessness NEGATIVE * increased aggressiveness * paranoia * dry mouth * headache * increased heart rate (tachycardia) * increased breathing rate * increased blood pressure * rise in body temperature * fever and sweating * diarrhea or constipation * blurred vision * impaired speech * dizziness * uncontrollable movements (twitching, jerking, tremors, etc...) * insomnia * numbness * irregular heartbeat (palpitations, arrhythmia) * impotence / inability to achieve erection in men (high dose or chronic use) * convulsions (high dose) * dry, itchy skin (chronic use) * acne, sores (chronic use) * pallor (high dose or chronic use) * psychotic episodes (rare except in overdoses or after chronic use) edit: for the most part, most of the negative side effects are quite rare. I've experienced prolly the first 5-10 of them, after that all pretty rare. The worst ones being paranoia and increased aggressiveness/irritability. | ||
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niteReloaded
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On November 10 2008 07:27 Motiva wrote: EFFECTS LIST # POSITIVE * increased alertness * increased motivation * positive mood shift, sense of well-being NEUTRAL * reduced appetite NEGATIVE * dry mouth * increased heart rate (tachycardia) * increased blood pressure * sweating | ||
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Motiva
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On November 10 2008 05:45 CharlieMurphy wrote: I have an ex-friend who was diagnosed with ADHD when he was a kid probably took ritalin, by the time we were 15-16 he started doing meth and hasn't stopped as far as I know (25 now?). 98% of Tweakers are fucking shady people. btw, is there a big difference between ritalin and adderal? lmao 99.9% of tweakers are fucking shady people. Ritalin -> Methylphenidate is a central nervous system stimulant widely prescribed to treat attention deficit disorder. It is also used in the treatment of narcolepsy, mild depression, and in combination with other drugs in the treatment of chronic pain. Adderall -> Amphetamine is a strong physical and mental stimulant available widely in both prescription and street forms. It is the standard against which all other stimulants are measured. Ritalin is classified as a Central Nervous System stimulant, while Adderall is you're standard speed... All in all, Stay away from both of them unless you're an experienced abuser or it's a one time deal, both are highly addictive, while neither would really lead to any long term damage physically, the addiction can damage everything else in your life, as well as lead you into trying the harder speeds when you can't find them... and those will fuck with your brain chemistry a bit too much. All in all, do research before taking anything, ever. and sorry for triple post...  | ||
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Sadist
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Does alcohol tend to help? Just curious, I know during certain activitives i definately calm down with alcohol and can seemingly focus more and my mind doesnt wander (golf, social situations) I dont have ADD or ADHD (at least its not diagnosed and I havent sought diagnosis or anything) but I am just curious. | ||
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tika
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Sadist
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On November 10 2008 07:45 tika wrote: alcohol heightens your emotions, allowing you to become more readily engaged by things (like comedy) well, I know i feel like my mind wanders most of the time, unless i am really involved (IE starcraft)where something is reactionary (sports, like say: basketball) However I know when golfing, getting drunk to a certain extent helps me turn my mind *off* so I dont really think as much and time just sort of goes by. Same thing in social situations, havent really been drunk during school or work to see how that would work out. Im just curious if its complete lack of motivation ;D | ||
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On November 10 2008 07:41 Sadist wrote: for people with ADD or ADHD Does alcohol tend to help? Just curious, I know during certain activitives i definately calm down with alcohol and can seemingly focus more and my mind doesnt wander (golf, social situations) I dont have ADD or ADHD (at least its not diagnosed and I havent sought diagnosis or anything) but I am just curious. that is a funny question. it depends on what it is helping with. answering this is kind of complicated. I see my "ADD" as having 2 primary causes. 1.) an actual physical cause and 2.) a psychological cause now, the psychological cause manifests in many ways. Some would be: insecurities, conditioning, mood. insecurities are things like "I don't think I can do this because...", and so I don't give it my all, and this increases my lack of focus. or "I don't want to look stupid", which in itself is a distraction and increases my lack of focus. just 2 examples. conditioning would be, that at a point I got so tired of struggling with focusing sometimes, that I became conditioned to expect myself not to be able to focus. and so, this conditioning furthers the lack of focus. if you understand what I am saying. mood would be, "ahh my life is shitty what is the point in trying", so there is a lack of focus, and also distractions caused by my bad mood itself. now, alcohol certainly doesn't help with the physical cause. it clouds my mind and judgement, and if I am on adderall I can tell that it hurts my focus. but, if I am not on aderall, then alcohol can help my focus, because it helps with all 3 psychological causes I listed. | ||
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Motiva
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On November 10 2008 07:42 travis wrote: well I think adderall must have negative consequences physically, after using it for long enough, even if within prescribed doses I would agree, it is releasing seratonin ect and that will cause changes, hence why it's "a bit too much" as opposed to just at all. However I do think that there is a very strong argument that even adderall/ritalin/any SSRI, Antidepressant or ect could have teh same sort of changes, and all of them could be "a bit too much" from some perspectives. lol...... off to work I go... | ||
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Hippopotamus
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vAltyR
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On November 10 2008 02:42 FzeroXx wrote: Placebo drug. Grow up and be responsible. ADHD isn't real. GTFO please. EDIT: List of symptoms fixed (for me) On November 10 2008 07:27 Motiva wrote: EFFECTS LIST # POSITIVE * increased alertness * increased motivation * * positive mood shift, sense of well-being + improved judgement, less compulsive decision-making NEUTRAL * reduced appetite (anorexia) * * flushing * loss of coordination * restlessness NEGATIVE + decreased creativity * * paranoia * dry mouth * headache * increased heart rate (tachycardia) * increased breathing rate * increased blood pressure * rise in body temperature * fever and sweating * diarrhea or constipation * blurred vision * impaired speech * dizziness * uncontrollable movements (twitching, jerking, tremors, etc...) * insomnia * * irregular heartbeat (palpitations, arrhythmia) * impotence / inability to achieve erection in men (high dose or chronic use) * convulsions (high dose) * dry, itchy skin (chronic use) * acne, sores (chronic use) * pallor (high dose or chronic use) * psychotic episodes (rare except in overdoses or after chronic use) edit: for the most part, most of the negative side effects are quite rare. I've experienced prolly the first 5-10 of them, after that all pretty rare. The worst ones being paranoia and increased aggressiveness/irritability. I added a couple that weren't on the list, though i suppose i don't qualify for this thread since i *actually* have ADHD (FzeroXx's comments aside.) | ||
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