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Treemonkeys
United States2082 Posts
On November 19 2010 05:49 kaisen wrote: As long as it's gonna reduce the chance of the plane from crashing into buildings? Then I have absolutely no problem with it. You could ban all airplanes, that would reduce the chance to pretty much zero. | ||
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Anglachel
Belgium9 Posts
On November 19 2010 05:49 kaisen wrote: As long as it's gonna reduce the chance of the plane from crashing into buildings? Then I have absolutely no problem with it. No one has to crash any planes anywhere anymore. I believe they have accomplished what they set out to do. They made the lives of a whole bunch of Americans that much more unpleasant. If this trend continues how long will it be before people are giving up their neighbours because they spoke out against the government? How many terror attacks using the US airways have succeeded in the US since 9/11? I don't remember any actually. All I remember is a bunch that were foiled. | ||
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jinorazi
Korea (South)4948 Posts
On November 19 2010 05:04 teekesselchen wrote: A text of Volker Pispers about the topic: "The question is - what are you afraid of? That's the deciding question in terms of terrorism to me. It's not about playing down crimes! Sure, these people are murderers - ordinary, bad murderers! But not more! Don't glorify them to "terrorists"! Terror it is, because we are afraid of it. The terror is here in our heads. They're murderers, like there are many murderers in this world. What are you afraid of, that's the deciding question! Of Al Quaida? 150,000 Germans die from smoking every year. 5000 Germans die from the consequences of boozing. 6000 Germans die in road traffic. What are you afraid of? 6000 Germans die from flu, every year, totally ordinary flu, not SARS or bird flu or something dangerous like that, totally ordinary flu. And 15.000 deaths we have from doctors' mistakes. German doctors bring down 15,000 patients every year. That's 44 deads a day. Quite a lot, don't you think? An old Al-Quaida fighter had to work quite some time for that, the Marburg Union (German medical doctors' union) does that during lunch break on good days!" terrorist threat, i do think its being blown out of proportion. if they can't do it with planes, they'll use something else. al qaeda is probably laughing their ass off for causing "chaos" within USA, as they said they would. | ||
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KiLL_ORdeR
United States1518 Posts
On November 19 2010 05:49 kaisen wrote: As long as it's gonna reduce the chance of the plane from crashing into buildings? Then I have absolutely no problem with it. I'm not trying to pick on you, but it's this sort of reasoning that allows governments to blatantly invade our privacy and rights. It disgusting the things they get away with nowadays, between this, the patriot act, and many other things claiming to "heighten security and reduce the risk of terrorism." Honestly, at first I was happy about the increasing of security. Before 9-11, even as an eleven-year-old and younger, I flew frequently and could tell that airport security was a joke. Sure it sucks to have to go through slower lines, metal detectors and sometimes get scanned, but shit like this is going way to far. People can easily obtain these photos and abuse the hell out of them, and I can totally see nerds getting these pictures and enhancing them or modifying them via programs like photoshop, and spreading them around the internet. How would you like it if you were interviewing for a potential job, and your potential employer got a hold of a picture like this modified with photoshop, but thought it was real and judged you for it. What if you are a person in politics or some other well-known public position, and people abused these to try and ruin your reputation. I know it's far-fetched, and most likely won't happen to me, and it's even worse that people would judge another person like that for having nude pictures out there, but the fact is that it happens, and it's very real. Finally, we're paying for this technology, not the airlines or TSA. Whether it's via taxes or increased airfare, there is a price and we as the fliers are going to be expected to pay for it, which sucks big time. I enjoy flying, I don't enjoy paying obscene amounts of money to be crammed into a hot-tube filled with other people, many of which have questionable hygiene, like a sardine or a pig going to be slaughtered. Unfortunately, the way air travel is currently set up in our society, I pretty much don't have a choice unless I pay triple for first class, which is not a big improvement, or pay $30,000 to fly private, or if I use another means of transportation, which will be much slower and less practical. IMO, terrorism is like hacking. I can pay literally millions of dollars to be protected up to my eyeballs, but if a skilled enough hacker wants in, he will get in regardless of if I have free Norton anti-spyware, or the best protection money can buy. The question I have to ask myself is; "Is what I am trying to protect worth it, given the knowledge that it can be taken no matter what I do?" | ||
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Chef
10810 Posts
There are so many things we put up with which are much more invasive for the sake of our health (colonoscopy: look forward to it), that to call this a breach of our dignity is a little childish. It's kind of funny what we consider private and what we don't. We all want to draw the line somewhere, so as to leave something special for a lover, but if you think that seeing a body is that line, I wonder what you think of beaches where everyone dresses in what is essentially underwear. More often than not, I think people are revealing more critical things about their personality to strangers of social-networking sites than can be found in a scan of the body. | ||
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_KiM_
Canada498 Posts
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Severedevil
United States4839 Posts
Government can jail you for years for putting plants in your mouth. Learn some damn priorities. | ||
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ChinaRestaurant
Austria324 Posts
On November 19 2010 06:25 SKTDH wrote: lol the pictures look unrealistic anyways so no problem Yeah and as we speak theres probably some guys developing a better version of the scanner. Probably some day there'll be a request for scanners with a better quality so you could see objects more clearly. One day you'll end up with "x-ray goggles" from the movies. | ||
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ev8
United States112 Posts
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TOloseGT
United States1145 Posts
On November 19 2010 07:09 ev8 wrote: If you refuse the scan, they molest you thoroughly. Yea, but you can say you'll have them arrested if they touch your junk. | ||
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ev8
United States112 Posts
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jinorazi
Korea (South)4948 Posts
On November 19 2010 07:15 TOloseGT wrote: Yea, but you can say you'll have them arrested if they touch your junk. apparently not. however TSA is getting sued for exposing a woman's jugs in public. | ||
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NoUShutUp
United States172 Posts
I rather that they do this and try to prevent something from happening. Because if something did happen and they didn't have these security measures, then people will complain about how the TSA doesn't do its job. People will complain about everything... | ||
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ev8
United States112 Posts
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Nazarid
United States445 Posts
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Manifesto7
Osaka27172 Posts
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Fdragon
United States96 Posts
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LaughingTulkas
United States1107 Posts
...with just about anything else, death due to bee-stings, car accidents, unnecessary foreign wars, etc. This is stupid and we are giving up liberty for a VERY little security. What are they gonna find that 1. won't be found in a regular metal detector, and 2. That can get past the pilots armored door and the gun he has behind it? | ||
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Easy772
374 Posts
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Mawi
Sweden4365 Posts
Btw i heard people got cancer after this because you get exposed to high radiation afterwards i have never gotten into one of these scans i just get the usual routine also i have a bullet inside my body which doctors cannot take out so its just there and it takes 15min to explain it to airlines. | ||
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