Russo-Ukrainian War Thread - Page 847

On August 23 2025 06:43 spets1 wrote:
Can you guys post some reputable military analysts the I can watch? All my current ones are predicting Ukraine doom and gloom on the battlefield

On August 23 2025 14:02 pmp10 wrote:

Free content almost always skews towards propaganda of one side or another.
If you are willing to pay for more serious analysis I'd suggest starting with Michael Kofman and his podcast.
You can check recent free update as an sample.

On August 23 2025 23:22 Copymizer wrote:
Trump has been conned by Putin again and again believing Putin is looking for a peace deal mean while in reality Putin wants to continue the war. The fact that Trump still can't see that this speaks volumes about his incompetence as a leader being able to read the true intentions of Russia

On August 24 2025 01:58 LightSpectra wrote:


He's probably aware Putin is making him look like a weak fool, but he also knows half of American conservative influencers are getting paychecks from Russia and Russia losing would hurt MAGA too much to let that happen.

On August 22 2025 22:31 spets1 wrote:



Grok for example estimates that Russia captured 6500 to 7000 sq km area from 2024 to now. Which is the size of Delaware, USA:

The state of Delaware has an area of 6,446 square kilometers, making it almost exactly the same size as 6,500 square kilometers.

On August 24 2025 02:29 zeo wrote:

At its very core, the whole point of attritional warfare is not territory gained. Attritional war is the war of resources, who is able to replenish their losses more effectively and incur maximum damage while taking the minimum amount themselves. Any territory taken is taken to give one side the better vantage point to inflict more damage and cause the enemy more losses for staying there. You want to degrade the opposing military to the point where they cannot fight back anymore and you just take everything.

This was the story for the entirety of 2023 (Bahmut and the counteroffencive included). Ukraine had a large manpower advantage with the Russians in full defensive mode, Wagners actions in Bahmut buying time for the Surovikin line. The attritional war would grind on with advancements being measured in a few square km a day until the fall of Avdeevka and later the incursion of Kiev forces into Sudza. The rate of daily advance for Russian forces started slowly from 5km to 20, to what we have now, 30 square kilometers a day.

The main factor of the war today are drones. Ukraine has a powerful drone presence at the lines of contact but doesn't have enough men to physically man the positions they have. While the Russians have a clear manpower advantage drone warfare has advanced far enough that they cannot move in groups larger than 5 men without being spotted, they can advance in areas where the drone teams on the UKR side have been sufficiently degraded with their own drones, FABs and long range artillery. Drone teams are most effective when they are a part of a strong, echeloned line. When they know where the enemy is and where he will come through, you want a scenario where the area you need to cover is concentrated. The problem the Ukrainians had the other day with Russian DRGs penetrating 13km deep on foot over the course of a few days is now the drone teams don't know where the enemy is. Is he behind me, is he in front, to the left or to the right. The drone teams need to evacuate further back to set up again safely but now there are much less drones in that area and the enemy can come in with larger regular forces and set up shop.

Atrritional warfare is a slow push forward where you apply pressure on a wide front until the enemy can no longer plug their gaps with reserve forces, all the while you need to stay close to your safety bubble of artillery and drones to keep you safe from counter attacks. The rate of advance grows exponentially when there is no longer a need of a safety bubble. Tanks have also been mostly rendered useless at the front line at its current configuration besides the use of turtle tanks to soak up drones and break through minefields. Though tank production through the roof and now when the losses are minimal enough can be stockpiled for use when the front lines inevitably break.

On August 24 2025 02:29 zeo wrote:

At its very core, the whole point of attritional warfare is not territory gained. Attritional war is the war of resources, who is able to replenish their losses more effectively and incur maximum damage while taking the minimum amount themselves. Any territory taken is taken to give one side the better vantage point to inflict more damage and cause the enemy more losses for staying there. You want to degrade the opposing military to the point where they cannot fight back anymore and you just take everything.

This was the story for the entirety of 2023 (Bahmut and the counteroffencive included). Ukraine had a large manpower advantage with the Russians in full defensive mode, Wagners actions in Bahmut buying time for the Surovikin line. The attritional war would grind on with advancements being measured in a few square km a day until the fall of Avdeevka and later the incursion of Kiev forces into Sudza. The rate of daily advance for Russian forces started slowly from 5km to 20, to what we have now, 30 square kilometers a day.

The main factor of the war today are drones. Ukraine has a powerful drone presence at the lines of contact but doesn't have enough men to physically man the positions they have. While the Russians have a clear manpower advantage drone warfare has advanced far enough that they cannot move in groups larger than 5 men without being spotted, they can advance in areas where the drone teams on the UKR side have been sufficiently degraded with their own drones, FABs and long range artillery. Drone teams are most effective when they are a part of a strong, echeloned line. When they know where the enemy is and where he will come through, you want a scenario where the area you need to cover is concentrated. The problem the Ukrainians had the other day with Russian DRGs penetrating 13km deep on foot over the course of a few days is now the drone teams don't know where the enemy is. Is he behind me, is he in front, to the left or to the right. The drone teams need to evacuate further back to set up again safely but now there are much less drones in that area and the enemy can come in with larger regular forces and set up shop.

Atrritional warfare is a slow push forward where you apply pressure on a wide front until the enemy can no longer plug their gaps with reserve forces, all the while you need to stay close to your safety bubble of artillery and drones to keep you safe from counter attacks. The rate of advance grows exponentially when there is no longer a need of a safety bubble. Tanks have also been mostly rendered useless at the front line at its current configuration besides the use of turtle tanks to soak up drones and break through minefields. Though tank production through the roof and now when the losses are minimal enough can be stockpiled for use when the front lines inevitably break.

On August 24 2025 08:16 spets1 wrote:
to Russias demands, conditions for peace agreement. Which has been clearly stated from the start and very clearly since russia annexed those oblasts. Those conditions have not changed and have been constant. The demands may seem to be unacceptable to Ukraine and the west. But at least they are clear.