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MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1451 Posts
August 22 2025 07:11 GMT
#16881
On August 21 2025 21:47 zeo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2025 21:16 Excludos wrote:
On August 21 2025 18:56 zeo wrote:
On August 21 2025 18:16 Excludos wrote:
https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-zelenskyy-putin-trump-security-92ee89feba2224f140429bcb573e61f9

Thank god Russia is just incapable of learning from their mistakes. That is such a vast amount of arsenal to waste on "one death and 15 injured". They keep doing these show of forces that achieves absolutely nothing

Remember kids. You only achieve something if you kill a lot of civilians. The Israel shill lobby in the Palestine thread must love you.


Glad you finally came out of your shell and told us what being a Russian sympathizer is really like

But I'm sure you are happy about the 574 drones and 40 ballistic and cruise missiles managing to hit a whopping, checks notes, a single American factory.. That's definitively a great success!

You mean the military targets and personnel losses under complete censorship and multi-year jail sentances if you take pictures and videos of hits?

574 drones and 40 missiles and no weddings or refugee camps hit. I can see why you think mission failed

What's the pass/fail state of the three day mission that's in its third year?
puking up frothing vitriolic sarcastic spittle
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6342 Posts
August 22 2025 07:44 GMT
#16882
On August 22 2025 15:07 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2025 14:01 zeo wrote:
Ahh, so you don't really go to jail for calling the SMO a war. You go to jail for being on the payroll of foriegn entities and enemies at a time of war. Weird how these cases slowed down when USAID money dried up, so wierd? Though the guy you linked that used to kidnap and torture drug addicts( and dealers) needed convincing the least.

Glad we got that out of the way, feel free to go back to your low effort ad hominems


Why are you even here? No one here is going to be convinced by your bullshit, and you literally do nothing else on this site. What's the point?

Well Im not posting for you obviously. Quite a few people comming to this thread are lurkers that cannot post anything even slightly deviating from the party line without the peanut gallery decending on them. You are the minority outside your bubble.

On August 22 2025 16:11 MJG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2025 21:47 zeo wrote:
On August 21 2025 21:16 Excludos wrote:
On August 21 2025 18:56 zeo wrote:
On August 21 2025 18:16 Excludos wrote:
https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-zelenskyy-putin-trump-security-92ee89feba2224f140429bcb573e61f9

Thank god Russia is just incapable of learning from their mistakes. That is such a vast amount of arsenal to waste on "one death and 15 injured". They keep doing these show of forces that achieves absolutely nothing

Remember kids. You only achieve something if you kill a lot of civilians. The Israel shill lobby in the Palestine thread must love you.


Glad you finally came out of your shell and told us what being a Russian sympathizer is really like

But I'm sure you are happy about the 574 drones and 40 ballistic and cruise missiles managing to hit a whopping, checks notes, a single American factory.. That's definitively a great success!

You mean the military targets and personnel losses under complete censorship and multi-year jail sentances if you take pictures and videos of hits?

574 drones and 40 missiles and no weddings or refugee camps hit. I can see why you think mission failed

What's the pass/fail state of the three day mission that's in its third year?

More on time than the two day ATO on its eleventh year lol
Pre-emptive retaliatory de-escalation action
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8266 Posts
August 22 2025 08:32 GMT
#16883
On August 22 2025 16:44 zeo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2025 15:07 Excludos wrote:
On August 22 2025 14:01 zeo wrote:
Ahh, so you don't really go to jail for calling the SMO a war. You go to jail for being on the payroll of foriegn entities and enemies at a time of war. Weird how these cases slowed down when USAID money dried up, so wierd? Though the guy you linked that used to kidnap and torture drug addicts( and dealers) needed convincing the least.

Glad we got that out of the way, feel free to go back to your low effort ad hominems


Why are you even here? No one here is going to be convinced by your bullshit, and you literally do nothing else on this site. What's the point?

Well Im not posting for you obviously. Quite a few people comming to this thread are lurkers that cannot post anything even slightly deviating from the party line without the peanut gallery decending on them. You are the minority outside your bubble.


So you're some kind of hero who takes on the role of disagreeing with the mean majority who is also the minority, because everyone else who is simultaneously the suppressed minority but also the silent majority, don't dare to make a comment?

Did you not consider that perhaps these people who you talk about don't exist? There certainly have been some Russian sympathizers in here now and then, but they all concluded much earlier than you that they didn't have a reason to be here, and left.

There is no hidden mass of people just clamoring for your next comment, Zeo. It's just you. You are alone here. You are no punk standing up to the man. Your comments will make no difference. You do not need to be here
MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1451 Posts
August 22 2025 09:24 GMT
#16884
On August 22 2025 16:44 zeo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2025 16:11 MJG wrote:
On August 21 2025 21:47 zeo wrote:
On August 21 2025 21:16 Excludos wrote:
On August 21 2025 18:56 zeo wrote:
On August 21 2025 18:16 Excludos wrote:
https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-zelenskyy-putin-trump-security-92ee89feba2224f140429bcb573e61f9

Thank god Russia is just incapable of learning from their mistakes. That is such a vast amount of arsenal to waste on "one death and 15 injured". They keep doing these show of forces that achieves absolutely nothing

Remember kids. You only achieve something if you kill a lot of civilians. The Israel shill lobby in the Palestine thread must love you.


Glad you finally came out of your shell and told us what being a Russian sympathizer is really like

But I'm sure you are happy about the 574 drones and 40 ballistic and cruise missiles managing to hit a whopping, checks notes, a single American factory.. That's definitively a great success!

You mean the military targets and personnel losses under complete censorship and multi-year jail sentances if you take pictures and videos of hits?

574 drones and 40 missiles and no weddings or refugee camps hit. I can see why you think mission failed

What's the pass/fail state of the three day mission that's in its third year?

More on time than the two day ATO on its eleventh year lol

Nothing to do with what I asked.

What's the pass/fail state of the three day mission that's in its third year?

It's a one word answer.

Pass or fail.
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zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6342 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-08-22 09:37:13
August 22 2025 09:36 GMT
#16885
On August 22 2025 17:32 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2025 16:44 zeo wrote:
On August 22 2025 15:07 Excludos wrote:
On August 22 2025 14:01 zeo wrote:
Ahh, so you don't really go to jail for calling the SMO a war. You go to jail for being on the payroll of foriegn entities and enemies at a time of war. Weird how these cases slowed down when USAID money dried up, so wierd? Though the guy you linked that used to kidnap and torture drug addicts( and dealers) needed convincing the least.

Glad we got that out of the way, feel free to go back to your low effort ad hominems


Why are you even here? No one here is going to be convinced by your bullshit, and you literally do nothing else on this site. What's the point?

Well Im not posting for you obviously. Quite a few people comming to this thread are lurkers that cannot post anything even slightly deviating from the party line without the peanut gallery decending on them. You are the minority outside your bubble.


So you're some kind of hero who takes on the role of disagreeing with the mean majority who is also the minority, because everyone else who is simultaneously the suppressed minority but also the silent majority, don't dare to make a comment?

Did you not consider that perhaps these people who you talk about don't exist? There certainly have been some Russian sympathizers in here now and then, but they all concluded much earlier than you that they didn't have a reason to be here, and left.

There is no hidden mass of people just clamoring for your next comment, Zeo. It's just you. You are alone here. You are no punk standing up to the man. Your comments will make no difference. You do not need to be here

'If you are a man, Winston, you are the last man. Your kind is extinct; we are the inheritors. Do you understand that you are alone? You are outside history, you are non-existent.' His manner changed and he said more harshly: 'And you consider yourself morally superior to us, with our lies and our cruelty?'

'Yes, I consider myself superior.'
Pre-emptive retaliatory de-escalation action
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8266 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-08-22 09:46:42
August 22 2025 09:45 GMT
#16886
On August 22 2025 18:36 zeo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2025 17:32 Excludos wrote:
On August 22 2025 16:44 zeo wrote:
On August 22 2025 15:07 Excludos wrote:
On August 22 2025 14:01 zeo wrote:
Ahh, so you don't really go to jail for calling the SMO a war. You go to jail for being on the payroll of foriegn entities and enemies at a time of war. Weird how these cases slowed down when USAID money dried up, so wierd? Though the guy you linked that used to kidnap and torture drug addicts( and dealers) needed convincing the least.

Glad we got that out of the way, feel free to go back to your low effort ad hominems


Why are you even here? No one here is going to be convinced by your bullshit, and you literally do nothing else on this site. What's the point?

Well Im not posting for you obviously. Quite a few people comming to this thread are lurkers that cannot post anything even slightly deviating from the party line without the peanut gallery decending on them. You are the minority outside your bubble.


So you're some kind of hero who takes on the role of disagreeing with the mean majority who is also the minority, because everyone else who is simultaneously the suppressed minority but also the silent majority, don't dare to make a comment?

Did you not consider that perhaps these people who you talk about don't exist? There certainly have been some Russian sympathizers in here now and then, but they all concluded much earlier than you that they didn't have a reason to be here, and left.

There is no hidden mass of people just clamoring for your next comment, Zeo. It's just you. You are alone here. You are no punk standing up to the man. Your comments will make no difference. You do not need to be here

'If you are a man, Winston, you are the last man. Your kind is extinct; we are the inheritors. Do you understand that you are alone? You are outside history, you are non-existent.' His manner changed and he said more harshly: 'And you consider yourself morally superior to us, with our lies and our cruelty?'

'Yes, I consider myself superior.'


So edgy. Still doesn't engage with my question regarding as to why you are still here. You have nothing to gain other than waste all of our time. Your own included
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15366 Posts
August 22 2025 10:11 GMT
#16887
On August 21 2025 20:48 hexhaven wrote:
German prosecutors say a man suspected to be one of the coordinators of the Nordstream attack has been arrested in Italy.

AP link

Show nested quote +

A Ukrainian citizen man suspected to be one of the coordinators of the undersea explosions in 2022 that damaged the Nord Stream gas pipelines between Russia and Germany has been arrested, German prosecutors said Thursday.

The suspect, identified only as Serhii K. in line with German privacy rules, was arrested overnight by officers from a police station in Misano Adriatrico, near the Italian city of Rimini, federal prosecutors said.


And not much more details than that. I'd imagine they want to move him to Germany eventually.

Watch how the German government will try reeaaaaally hard to not get this suspect in the hands of German prosecutors because they reeeeaaally don't want them to find out about what happened to NS2.
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
hexhaven
Profile Joined July 2014
Finland964 Posts
August 22 2025 11:37 GMT
#16888
On August 22 2025 19:11 zatic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2025 20:48 hexhaven wrote:
German prosecutors say a man suspected to be one of the coordinators of the Nordstream attack has been arrested in Italy.

AP link


A Ukrainian citizen man suspected to be one of the coordinators of the undersea explosions in 2022 that damaged the Nord Stream gas pipelines between Russia and Germany has been arrested, German prosecutors said Thursday.

The suspect, identified only as Serhii K. in line with German privacy rules, was arrested overnight by officers from a police station in Misano Adriatrico, near the Italian city of Rimini, federal prosecutors said.


And not much more details than that. I'd imagine they want to move him to Germany eventually.

Watch how the German government will try reeaaaaally hard to not get this suspect in the hands of German prosecutors because they reeeeaaally don't want them to find out about what happened to NS2.


Oh for sure. There was a bunch of reporting in 2023-2024 on how a large number of German officials really wish this thing was just forgotten entirely.
WriterI shoot events. | http://www.jussi.co/esports
spets1
Profile Joined November 2009
136 Posts
August 22 2025 11:53 GMT
#16889
Who's winning the war at the moment?
You were wrong before, what makes you think you're right now
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22441 Posts
August 22 2025 12:04 GMT
#16890
Every day where Ukraine holds is a day where they are winning.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1451 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-08-22 12:18:30
August 22 2025 12:14 GMT
#16891
On August 22 2025 20:53 spets1 wrote:
Who's winning the war at the moment?

Probably not the side who thought that full Ukrainian capitulation would take a few days, but who have only managed to partially occupy four oblasts several years later.
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spets1
Profile Joined November 2009
136 Posts
August 22 2025 12:22 GMT
#16892
The military analysis I'm reading is that Russias advance is accelerating and if Ukraine/eu/us don't strike a deal soon, Russia will eventually overwhelm and might claim more than the four oblasts they planned to take
You were wrong before, what makes you think you're right now
MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1451 Posts
August 22 2025 12:27 GMT
#16893
On August 22 2025 21:22 spets1 wrote:
The military analysis I'm reading is that Russias advance is accelerating and if Ukraine/eu/us don't strike a deal soon, Russia will eventually overwhelm and might claim more than the four oblasts they planned to take

Russia didn't plan to take four oblasts.

They planned for full Ukrainian capitulation.
puking up frothing vitriolic sarcastic spittle
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22441 Posts
August 22 2025 12:32 GMT
#16894
On August 22 2025 21:22 spets1 wrote:
The military analysis I'm reading is that Russias advance is accelerating and if Ukraine/eu/us don't strike a deal soon, Russia will eventually overwhelm and might claim more than the four oblasts they planned to take
And recently the line broke and Ukraine was on the verge of collapse. Except it was a small incursion that was surrounded and killed and nothing changed.

Russia and its varies troll farms are constantly feeding the narrative that Ukraine will lose any day now and we're still here at the same frozen conflict where the lines barely move 3 years later.



It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
spets1
Profile Joined November 2009
136 Posts
August 22 2025 12:34 GMT
#16895
I think you're right. Russia wants to make sure Ukraine doesn't join NATO and is not officially anti Russian which it presumed Ukraine to be after the 20214 government overthrow. The only way to achieve it is by replacing the current government with Russia friendly/puppet government
You were wrong before, what makes you think you're right now
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44170 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-08-22 12:47:19
August 22 2025 12:46 GMT
#16896
Feels like they’re not helping their cause on the anti Russian front. If I wanted Ukraine to like me then I’d try to give them things other than missiles. But there’s no deal possible when Russia’s demand is conquest.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
spets1
Profile Joined November 2009
136 Posts
August 22 2025 12:54 GMT
#16897
Yeah thats why it's do or die for Putin's Russia. Either win the war or surrender to the west/ break the country up into more pieces.

For Ukraine the deal is always possible. If Ukraine feels like they are about to collapse it's better to take whatever is offered currently than lose even more.
Although seems unlikely by zelensky
Looks to me that the war will continue and Russia will keep slowly inching forwards as it's currently doing.
You were wrong before, what makes you think you're right now
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22441 Posts
August 22 2025 12:58 GMT
#16898
On August 22 2025 21:54 spets1 wrote:
Yeah thats why it's do or die for Putin's Russia. Either win the war or surrender to the west/ break the country up into more pieces.

For Ukraine the deal is always possible. If Ukraine feels like they are about to collapse it's better to take whatever is offered currently than lose even more.
Although seems unlikely by zelensky
Looks to me that the war will continue and Russia will keep slowly inching forwards as it's currently doing.
No, Russia's goal is genocide. If you surrender to an opponent who's goal is your genocide you might as well slit your own throat, it would be less painful.


It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44170 Posts
August 22 2025 13:01 GMT
#16899
Surrender isn’t a deal.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5835 Posts
August 22 2025 13:11 GMT
#16900
On August 22 2025 21:22 spets1 wrote:
The military analysis I'm reading is that Russias advance is accelerating and if Ukraine/eu/us don't strike a deal soon, Russia will eventually overwhelm and might claim more than the four oblasts they planned to take

Can you link to said analysis?
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