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Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8096 Posts
10 hours ago
#16861
On August 21 2025 20:48 hexhaven wrote:
German prosecutors say a man suspected to be one of the coordinators of the Nordstream attack has been arrested in Italy.

AP link

Show nested quote +

A Ukrainian citizen man suspected to be one of the coordinators of the undersea explosions in 2022 that damaged the Nord Stream gas pipelines between Russia and Germany has been arrested, German prosecutors said Thursday.

The suspect, identified only as Serhii K. in line with German privacy rules, was arrested overnight by officers from a police station in Misano Adriatrico, near the Italian city of Rimini, federal prosecutors said.


And not much more details than that. I'd imagine they want to move him to Germany eventually.


Whether this man truly represents Ukraine or Russia, it's interesting to note how he chose not to stay in either country.
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6290 Posts
9 hours ago
#16862
On August 21 2025 21:16 Excludos wrote:
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On August 21 2025 18:56 zeo wrote:
On August 21 2025 18:16 Excludos wrote:
https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-zelenskyy-putin-trump-security-92ee89feba2224f140429bcb573e61f9

Thank god Russia is just incapable of learning from their mistakes. That is such a vast amount of arsenal to waste on "one death and 15 injured". They keep doing these show of forces that achieves absolutely nothing

Remember kids. You only achieve something if you kill a lot of civilians. The Israel shill lobby in the Palestine thread must love you.


Glad you finally came out of your shell and told us what being a Russian sympathizer is really like

But I'm sure you are happy about the 574 drones and 40 ballistic and cruise missiles managing to hit a whopping, checks notes, a single American factory.. That's definitively a great success!

You mean the military targets and personnel losses under complete censorship and multi-year jail sentances if you take pictures and videos of hits?

574 drones and 40 missiles and no weddings or refugee camps hit. I can see why you think mission failed
"If only Kircheis were here" - Everyone
Jankisa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Croatia699 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-08-21 12:53:09
9 hours ago
#16863
In the western city of Lviv, one person was killed and three were injured as the attack damaged 26 residential buildings, a kindergarten and administrative buildings


That is all they hit, residential areas, and this is what you are defending. I'm sure you are one of the fuckheads who likes to whine about civilian casualties of when NATO bombed your sad little Russia wannabe country into submission.

You are so deep into Russian propaganda that you aren't able to look at the map and see how thoroughly they have been whalloped out of Pokrovsk, the same Pokrovsk which they have been trying to get for more then a year with tens upon tens of thousands of casualties for absolutely no gain. They are back where they were in August 2024.

Incredibly ironic to mention censorship while being on your knees in front of Vlad who throws people in jail for 15 years over calling his "SMO" a war.
So, are you a pessimist? - On my better days. Are you a nihilist? - Not as much as I should be.
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8096 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-08-21 12:55:42
9 hours ago
#16864
On August 21 2025 21:50 Jankisa wrote:
Show nested quote +
In the western city of Lviv, one person was killed and three were injured as the attack damaged 26 residential buildings, a kindergarten and administrative buildings


That is all they hit, residential areas, and this is what you are defending. I'm sure you are one of the fuckheads who likes to whine about civilian casualties of when NATO bombed your sad little Russia wannabe country into submission.

You are so deep into Russian propaganda that you aren't able to look at the map and see how thoroughly they have been whalloped out of Pokrovsk, the same Pokrovsk which they have been trying to get for more then a year with tens upon tens of thousands of casualties for absolutely no gain. They are back where they were in August 2024.


Don't take the bait. I made the same mistake. It's beneath us, and all it does is lower the IQ of the room. He pops up at random intervals, spews garbage, then disappears as people try to counter him with any sort of evidence, only to do it all over again a month later. This moron should have been banned years ago, but seeing as he isn't, it's best to just let him sit and stew in his own bubble and not engage.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10729 Posts
9 hours ago
#16865
The intervals aren't random.
It's allways when something supposedly "good" happens for Russia.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11528 Posts
9 hours ago
#16866
On August 21 2025 21:54 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2025 21:50 Jankisa wrote:
In the western city of Lviv, one person was killed and three were injured as the attack damaged 26 residential buildings, a kindergarten and administrative buildings


That is all they hit, residential areas, and this is what you are defending. I'm sure you are one of the fuckheads who likes to whine about civilian casualties of when NATO bombed your sad little Russia wannabe country into submission.

You are so deep into Russian propaganda that you aren't able to look at the map and see how thoroughly they have been whalloped out of Pokrovsk, the same Pokrovsk which they have been trying to get for more then a year with tens upon tens of thousands of casualties for absolutely no gain. They are back where they were in August 2024.


Don't take the bait. I made the same mistake. It's beneath us, and all it does is lower the IQ of the room. He pops up at random intervals, spews garbage, then disappears as people try to counter him with any sort of evidence, only to do it all over again a month later. This moron should have been banned years ago, but seeing as he isn't, it's best to just let him sit and stew in his own bubble and not engage.


Agreed. There is literally nothing to gain from interacting with zeo. All of us have experienced that ad nauseum throughout this thread. Nothing you can say will ever achieve anything with that one. You might think that if you just say the right thing, the smart answer, point out that incredibly obvious hypocrisy, something will change.

But it never does. You can look back and get three years of that throughout this thread.
Jankisa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Croatia699 Posts
9 hours ago
#16867
For a lot of these guys I assume they participate in other threads more closely aligned to gaming, so if they have stupid, propaganda ridden opinions to come down here and spew every now and then I don't see the reason to ban them.

This guy also seems like a very typical "Russkiy mir" Serbian ("Velika Srbija") who thinks they are all brothers working on the goals of their territorial expansion hand and hand, with Serbia being even more pathetic in it then Russia is, they use all the same tactics, you name it, from using ethnic enclaves as excuses to stir shit up, to being perpetual victims of "western propaganda" and NATO.

At least the politicians from our part of the world (and this includes my president) have some benefits from doing this, they get "business deals" and other forms of bribes, this pathetic little guy just bought it hook, line and sinker and regurgitates this shit because he thinks it makes him feel better about "his people".

I don't think that makes him ban worthy, just worthy of pity.
So, are you a pessimist? - On my better days. Are you a nihilist? - Not as much as I should be.
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6290 Posts
8 hours ago
#16868
On August 21 2025 22:08 Velr wrote:
The intervals aren't random.
It's allways when something supposedly "good" happens for Russia.

I really dont have the time and energy to be a regular 10x a day poster in this thread, or rarely a once a week poster because I dont have the time to follow up. In general whatever is written will get a 'lol no u poopoo head' answer, and while that boulder was easier to push up a hill in my youth, letting go and laughing at the various cope is much less time demanding. As I wrote last year, the outcome of the war was determened in 2023, and everything after is just filler on the way to its inevitable conclusion.

Though when I see something particularly stupid posted here I do reply. And its usually in response to mega-cope when something supposedly 'good' happens for Russia now that I think about it. How will such and such be compared to WW2? How many bajillions have died this time in the shovel waves? Russian ruble is surely rubble this time guys, the youtuber told me last night! Its fascinating.

Looking at my neighbour Jankisa churning out silly multi paragraph rage-bait posts one after the other reminds me of how happy and vindicated I am for all of my postitions I held.
"If only Kircheis were here" - Everyone
Jankisa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Croatia699 Posts
8 hours ago
#16869
I find it very cute that you are completely unable to engage when your raging hypocrisy is pointed out.
So, are you a pessimist? - On my better days. Are you a nihilist? - Not as much as I should be.
hexhaven
Profile Joined July 2014
Finland933 Posts
7 hours ago
#16870
"Military personnel shouldn't be bound by OPSEC" is weird even from our resident war crimes apologist.

On August 21 2025 21:20 Excludos wrote:
Whether this man truly represents Ukraine or Russia, it's interesting to note how he chose not to stay in either country.


Probably makes sense, but not sure why he didn't leave Europe entirely. I think it was last year that a team of journalists tracked down some of the alleged perpetrators to a town in Ukraine, and interviewed some neighbors, but that didn't really lead anywhere.

It's been almost 3 years now, and there's still plenty left to uncover.
WriterI shoot events. | http://www.jussi.co/esports
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6290 Posts
6 hours ago
#16871
On August 21 2025 23:24 Jankisa wrote:
I find it very cute that you are completely unable to engage when your raging hypocrisy is pointed out.

Why are you even crashing out over this? You flood the thread with logical fallacies and (laughable) ragebait and get angry when I don't address every single spam sentence. I'm reading through the last page and I guess you are talking about how I wrote about the strict censorship Kiev has imposed regarding military losses. And you seem to imply that your answer to that is 'well Russia throws people in jail for calling the SMO a war'?

Again, I'm not sure if this is your 'raging hypocrisy', and ok, I'll skip the low hanging fruit answer of just calling what you said whataboutism. How do you think this conversation will go?

Ill ask you: well, how many people have been thrown in jail for 15 years for calling the SMO a war? That should be easy

You'll Google it, find nothing besides people committing literal treason being sent to jail, maybe a kid being given 5 years for conspiracy to commit treason and even those have 'it came to me in a dream' sources where each NGO claims that the another NGO is its source and you can never really find out where the story started. Ten years prison for sending money to the Ukrainian army? We only sent people that financed Al-Qaeda to Guantanamo Bay, not labor camps!

Your statement 'Russia throws people in jail for calling the SMO a war' is actually about a Law against spreading misinformation, which carries a max penalty of 15 years. But you don't care you never looked it up. Don't look at the statistics about the amount of people arrested in the United Kingdom over 'speech crimes' under similar Laws. That would be whataboutism! You're only allowed to compare things to WW2! Only trained Professional Fascism Noticers are allowed to find correlation or similarity between two things and only if one of those things are said to be literally Hitler. Directly addressing your claim and then adding a footnote about similar things in other countries? Thats crazy talk unless that similar thing is about WW2.

You will then pivot to some other whacky conspiracy theory you read on Reddit and the cycle will start all over again. Or pretend nothing happened and move on to the next 50 paragraphs someone has to spend hours answering. Or grab onto one sentence out of my entire post and formulate a sad attempt at a gotcha. Its all so tiresome. The worst part is you'll just say it again in a few months and pretend nothing happened like that guy mentioning 3 day SMO after its been debunked 50x.

Over the last few months Ive been only posting in this thread when I come across incredibly stupid posts that are a slam dunk to easily ridicule and disprove. Its a simple life, if it makes someone pause before posting something from a source named oRkKiLLa1488slavaUKRAINI... well... its something at least. And enough for me.
"If only Kircheis were here" - Everyone
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17281 Posts
4 hours ago
#16872
I think the biggest problem for people like zeo in this thread is that you won't really find many Russian sympathizers here who would actually wish for Russia to succeed.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States1550 Posts
4 hours ago
#16873
On August 22 2025 02:48 Manit0u wrote:
I think the biggest problem for people like zeo in this thread is that you won't really find many Russian sympathizers here who would actually wish for Russia to succeed.


I doubt he's cheering on innocent people dying because he wants to be popular.
2006 Shinhan Bank OSL Season 3 was the greatest tournament of all time
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7111 Posts
4 hours ago
#16874
On August 22 2025 02:53 LightSpectra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2025 02:48 Manit0u wrote:
I think the biggest problem for people like zeo in this thread is that you won't really find many Russian sympathizers here who would actually wish for Russia to succeed.


I doubt he's cheering on innocent people dying because he wants to be popular.

True, he thinks Ukrainians are subhumans who deserve to be killed for opposing Daddy Putin.
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
Jankisa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Croatia699 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-08-21 19:49:03
2 hours ago
#16875
On August 22 2025 01:26 zeo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2025 23:24 Jankisa wrote:
I find it very cute that you are completely unable to engage when your raging hypocrisy is pointed out.

Why are you even crashing out over this? You flood the thread with logical fallacies and (laughable) ragebait and get angry when I don't address every single spam sentence. I'm reading through the last page and I guess you are talking about how I wrote about the strict censorship Kiev has imposed regarding military losses. And you seem to imply that your answer to that is 'well Russia throws people in jail for calling the SMO a war'?

Again, I'm not sure if this is your 'raging hypocrisy', and ok, I'll skip the low hanging fruit answer of just calling what you said whataboutism. How do you think this conversation will go?

Ill ask you: well, how many people have been thrown in jail for 15 years for calling the SMO a war? That should be easy

You'll Google it, find nothing besides people committing literal treason being sent to jail, maybe a kid being given 5 years for conspiracy to commit treason and even those have 'it came to me in a dream' sources where each NGO claims that the another NGO is its source and you can never really find out where the story started. Ten years prison for sending money to the Ukrainian army? We only sent people that financed Al-Qaeda to Guantanamo Bay, not labor camps!

Your statement 'Russia throws people in jail for calling the SMO a war' is actually about a Law against spreading misinformation, which carries a max penalty of 15 years. But you don't care you never looked it up. Don't look at the statistics about the amount of people arrested in the United Kingdom over 'speech crimes' under similar Laws. That would be whataboutism! You're only allowed to compare things to WW2! Only trained Professional Fascism Noticers are allowed to find correlation or similarity between two things and only if one of those things are said to be literally Hitler. Directly addressing your claim and then adding a footnote about similar things in other countries? Thats crazy talk unless that similar thing is about WW2.

You will then pivot to some other whacky conspiracy theory you read on Reddit and the cycle will start all over again. Or pretend nothing happened and move on to the next 50 paragraphs someone has to spend hours answering. Or grab onto one sentence out of my entire post and formulate a sad attempt at a gotcha. Its all so tiresome. The worst part is you'll just say it again in a few months and pretend nothing happened like that guy mentioning 3 day SMO after its been debunked 50x.

Over the last few months Ive been only posting in this thread when I come across incredibly stupid posts that are a slam dunk to easily ridicule and disprove. Its a simple life, if it makes someone pause before posting something from a source named oRkKiLLa1488slavaUKRAINI... well... its something at least. And enough for me.


I know you don't care but there you go, a nice collection:

PBS NewsHour: Russian politician sentenced to over 8 years for criticism of war in Ukraine

Amnesty International: Russia: Journalist sentenced to seven years for speaking out against war

PBS NewsHour: Russian activist convicted of treason over Ukraine war criticism, given 25 years

VOA: Kremlin critic convicted again, handed new prison term for opposing war in Ukraine

Al Jazeera: Russia jails journalist for publishing reports about civilian deaths in Bucha and Mariupol

The Guardian: Russia detains opposition politician for calling Ukraine war 'an invasion'

None of these are "treason" or sending money to Ukraine, they are all about speaking the truth. I do care, unlike you, who very likely never left your country and are probably spending your free time spitting at student protectors, I've talked to many Russians with who I worked with and who left that country after the war started.

I don't have to spend my time researching conspiracy theories, that is the purview of people who don't have the truth on their side, hateful, sad little people who have been brainwashed from birth by a toxic environment.

This is why I said I pity you, ultimately, it's not your fault, you were just born in the wrong place and you aren't smart enough to resist your programming, neither is your fault.

What is your fault is your ridiculously high opinion of yourself and the things you write, it's not original, it's just regurgitating very obvious propaganda and misinformation with typical conspiracy theorist (plus some dumb memes mixed in) rhetoric of someone who read the wiki article about logical fallacies without actually understanding a word.
So, are you a pessimist? - On my better days. Are you a nihilist? - Not as much as I should be.
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