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[/QUOTE] "On War" is valuable strategy document but in modern days mostly outdated and only some of the more abstract points from it are valid (like Sun Tzu's "Art of War"). You can't apply XIX-th century military doctrine to today's battlefields. Hell, the war in Ukraine is redefining military strategy as we speak, making some tactics from WW2 and even later conflicts obsolete. Also, the parts they're quoting in the article are really esoteric and unclear. By the same definition you can say that Ukrainians have shifted their center of gravity away from Pokrovsk so the Russian center of gravity can't destroy it and it is thus wasted. https://theforge.defence.gov.au/article/clausewitz-centres-gravity-open-interpretation Russia is still applying the WW1 and WW2 concepts to war while Ukraine is playing a completely different game where it can, by utilizing dispersed attacks over a wide area, crippling enemy supply chains and using maneuver warfare instead of engaging in a trench slugfest and direct attrition.[/QUOTE]
That is the point, On War, strategy, how to win a war. I strongly disagree with your "outdated". Tactics have changed, weapons have changed, do you think Ukraine has invented a new way to win a war? When are you too strong at the "schwerpunkt"? Try not to mix strategy and tactics.
Yes, you can translate sending 2 (or 5) brigades to) Kursk (and supplying them there) as decisive, but it has not changed the trend, it has not produced results; it is not decisive. How little do you think Zaluzhny knows about war, and tactics? If you gamble, you should consider the consequences in case your bluff is called off; another active front for Ukraine, the side with more troops, more shells and more AD.
What game? Where Ukraine is allowed to play it? What is Russia doing from Kursk to Vugledar but "utilizing dispersed attacks over a wide area"? Russia is not attacking Ukrainian LOCs? Maneuver warfare? You mean failing last summer? Have you seen many brigade/division attacks? Battalion size at most and not often. When you have trenches all along the front, what else can you do but assault those trenches? I mean the whole border and the whole front line. Have you been looking at the maps? Ukraine had to break through those defences in Kursk, before being able to drive around for some time. How deep and how well manned were those positions (Ocheretino?) is another story. By the way, attrition works, sometimes and we haven't seen the end yet.
On September 22 2024 05:52 0x64 wrote: I think Russia is so used to losing in the end than they start conflict with their objectif to last the longest possible. That is Tetris for you. It took two years, but they finally manage to kick and progress so much that the Ukrainian army has entered uncontested into russian territory..
recent polls in russia show 5% of russians want peace on any condition (basicly peace now). 49% are ok with peace on russian terms. Rest want russia to continue.
Peaceful people lol
(Forgot to add that this is still a big swing compared to earlier polls showing even more support for the war)
On September 22 2024 05:52 0x64 wrote: I think Russia is so used to losing in the end than they start conflict with their objectif to last the longest possible. That is Tetris for you. It took two years, but they finally manage to kick and progress so much that the Ukrainian army has entered uncontested into russian territory..
Uncontested? You better look again.
Looked again, seems right.
It is uncontested because they are there. 2 years ago, they be killed within a day. Maybe you are one of those that claim that russia is doing better today than it did 2 years ago. That Russian's quality of life has improved thanks to the war and that now Russia, at war against NATO, is saving the world from tyranny?
You'd want to see contested entrance to territory. Take 1000 Russian soldiers and make them cross any nato border. Ooh, I bet they will manager to enter...
On September 22 2024 20:19 sertas wrote: recent polls in russia show 5% of russians want peace on any condition (basicly peace now). 49% are ok with peace on russian terms. Rest want russia to continue.
Peaceful people lol
(Forgot to add that this is still a big swing compared to earlier polls showing even more support for the war)
That recent poll was by an organization created by anti-war activists. They are pushing an agenda, trying to show that the war is quite unpopular. I'd wait for another poll by Levada.
On September 22 2024 20:19 sertas wrote: recent polls in russia show 5% of russians want peace on any condition (basicly peace now). 49% are ok with peace on russian terms. Rest want russia to continue.
Peaceful people lol
(Forgot to add that this is still a big swing compared to earlier polls showing even more support for the war)
That recent poll was by an organization created by anti-war activists. They are pushing an agenda, trying to show that the war is quite unpopular. I'd wait for another poll by Levada.
How does that opinion beyond "peace on Russian terms" even work. How can a Russian not be okay with peace on Russian terms. What more do they want than "all we demand".
On September 22 2024 20:19 sertas wrote: recent polls in russia show 5% of russians want peace on any condition (basicly peace now). 49% are ok with peace on russian terms. Rest want russia to continue.
Peaceful people lol
(Forgot to add that this is still a big swing compared to earlier polls showing even more support for the war)
That recent poll was by an organization created by anti-war activists. They are pushing an agenda, trying to show that the war is quite unpopular. I'd wait for another poll by Levada.
How does that opinion beyond "peace on Russian terms" even work. How can a Russian not be okay with peace on Russian terms. What more do they want than "all we demand".
Not only that, but if a poll by anti-war activists is "doctored" to be more anti-war, but finds effectively 95% of the population is pro-war, they either suck at doctoring or the the actual number of Russians who want an end to this unjust war on any terms is even less than 5%. In neither case does it inspire confidence that Russia will be forced to end the war due to internal pressures any time soon.
On September 22 2024 05:52 0x64 wrote: I think Russia is so used to losing in the end than they start conflict with their objectif to last the longest possible. That is Tetris for you. It took two years, but they finally manage to kick and progress so much that the Ukrainian army has entered uncontested into russian territory..
Uncontested? You better look again.
Looked again, seems right. It is uncontested because they are there. 2 years ago, they be killed within a day. Maybe you are one of those that claim that russia is doing better today than it did 2 years ago. That Russian's quality of life has improved thanks to the war and that now Russia, at war against NATO, is saving the world from tyranny? You'd want to see contested entrance to territory. Take 1000 Russian soldiers and make them cross any nato border. Ooh, I bet they will manager to enter...
If you keep creating new meaning for words like "all", "collapse" or "uncontested". communication is going to be a bit harder in this forum.
On September 22 2024 05:52 0x64 wrote: I think Russia is so used to losing in the end than they start conflict with their objectif to last the longest possible. That is Tetris for you. It took two years, but they finally manage to kick and progress so much that the Ukrainian army has entered uncontested into russian territory..
Uncontested? You better look again.
Looked again, seems right. It is uncontested because they are there. 2 years ago, they be killed within a day. Maybe you are one of those that claim that russia is doing better today than it did 2 years ago. That Russian's quality of life has improved thanks to the war and that now Russia, at war against NATO, is saving the world from tyranny? You'd want to see contested entrance to territory. Take 1000 Russian soldiers and make them cross any nato border. Ooh, I bet they will manager to enter...
If you keep creating new meaning for words like "all", "collapse" or "uncontested". communication is going to be a bit harder in this forum.
Yeah that sounds like the dumbest idea I've heard in a while. Train pilots for a multitude of airframes, who might be ready by summer 2026, get 5 times as much maintenance personell so they could split their focus and expertise, not to mention the headaches caused by different hardpoints and systems, only to not be able to perform collaborative missions as well because the systems barely talk to each other.
On September 23 2024 20:40 Excludos wrote: Yeah that sounds like the dumbest idea I've heard in a while. Train pilots for a multitude of airframes, who might be ready by summer 2026, get 5 times as much maintenance personell so they could split their focus and expertise, not to mention the headaches caused by different hardpoints and systems, only to not be able to perform collaborative missions as well because the systems barely talk to each other.
That minister seems quite happy about the announcement. kyivpost That minister is working for Zelensky.
On September 23 2024 20:40 Excludos wrote: Yeah that sounds like the dumbest idea I've heard in a while. Train pilots for a multitude of airframes, who might be ready by summer 2026, get 5 times as much maintenance personell so they could split their focus and expertise, not to mention the headaches caused by different hardpoints and systems, only to not be able to perform collaborative missions as well because the systems barely talk to each other.
Dunno. If i am Ukraine, i take any weapon system i can get. Ukraine has been pretty good at finding use case for basically anything.
Sure, having a cohesive force of similar systems would probably be preferable in an ideal situation, but when you are being invaded by Russia, having any force is not something you can afford to say no to.
There's a lot going on here, and I'm by no means an economist, so I'm going to steal a tl;dr from someone else on Reddit:
Just this week, near the end of Q3 2024, the Central Bank finally managed to reach 50% of their target funding for 2024. They were supposed to have reached this point in mid-2024. Reaching the funding target will be impossible because banks and other Russian financial institutions don't have enough liquidity to satisfy the Central Bank's needs. This means that Russia is facing a huge deficit this year, which they can't cover by borrowing money from Russian banks, and even if they withdrew all the liquid funds available from the National Wealth Fund they still might not be able to cover the deficit. This means that by the end of the year, Russia will either have to start printing loads of money, stop paying for services/wages in order to decrease the deficit, or confiscate money from individuals/corporations. Which they'll choose to do is unknown right now.
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