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Magic Powers
Austria4478 Posts
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KwarK
United States43964 Posts
On November 29 2024 06:59 Magic Powers wrote: Over 120 countries will arrest Netanyahu in case he enters on charges of war crimes. Effectively he's banned from more than half the planet. https://www.politico.eu/article/benjamin-netanyahu-arrest-warrant-war-crimes-gaza-travel-arrest-europe/ Putin already tested what happens if you travel with a warrant. Nothing. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23928 Posts
On November 29 2024 07:00 KwarK wrote: Putin already tested what happens if you travel with a warrant. Nothing. Depends on the country but I think the differences between what Israel might do to Spain and what Russia might do to Mongolia were they to have them arrested impacts the calculation. Would the US invade the Netherlands for Netanyahu? I feel like Biden might, but Trump might be content replacing him with someone even further right (or just more unhinged). | ||
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Gahlo
United States35172 Posts
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Billyboy
1680 Posts
On November 29 2024 12:34 Gahlo wrote: Reports of Israel shooting at journalists and destroying public infrastructure in Lebanon, despite being day 1 of the ceasefire. And reports of Hezbollah moving past the river to their facilities. Tenuous as hell right now. If the Lebanese army can fill the space that Hezbollah filled maybe there is hope for a lasting peace. | ||
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ImFromPortugal
Portugal1368 Posts
On November 29 2024 12:34 Gahlo wrote: Reports of Israel shooting at journalists and destroying public infrastructure in Lebanon, despite being day 1 of the ceasefire. the usual | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9842 Posts
On November 29 2024 12:34 Gahlo wrote: Reports of Israel shooting at journalists and destroying public infrastructure in Lebanon, despite being day 1 of the ceasefire. If you're Israel, you don't want journalists around. Its why they keep killing so many of them. Look what happened in Amsterdam. All of the lies were so easily exposed by a kid with a camera. | ||
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stilt
France2755 Posts
https://www.google.com/amp/s/fr.timesofisrael.com/moshe-yaalon-met-en-garde-israel-contre-le-risque-de-nettoyage-ethnique-a-gaza/amp/ This guy is anything but a reasonnable mind tho, as a zealous follower of the western strategy of pitting sunni against shia, he stated a bit after the bataclan attack he prefered isis to iran, it's a it weird to see french people support this but well, my people most watched chanel is the french fox news so, nothing is really surprising. Meanwhile smotrich is calling once again for reinstallment in gaza... But this time he is a bit more precise as he is calling for the lowering of the population in half though "volontary immigration". https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/urging-occupation-smotrich-says-voluntary-migration-could-halve-gazas-population-in-2-years/ At least, it gives the israeli roadmap about gaza, two years, half the population dead, they really treat this as a cattle which is coherent with their rhetoric about human animals. | ||
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aseq
Netherlands3997 Posts
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Magic Powers
Austria4478 Posts
On December 01 2024 11:24 aseq wrote: Wasn't that UN woman fired for not wanting to call it a genocide? If they are planning to that, they deserve every bit of hate they get. But the 2% of the population they killed so far in 1.5 years doesn't indicate they plan on a total genocide. Would love for the west to get an israeli official statement about the plans...with repercussions if they don't keep to those, of course. 2% are the confirmed casualties. After the war it'll likely be revealed that the true count is closer to 6-10% as of this moment. Are they planning a total genocide? We can ask a simpler one: will Israel withdraw from Gaza or not? If not, then they will steal the land, as that's also been the West bank policy. Ethnic cleansing would then be guaranteed. So to know Gaza's future we need to keep an eye out for the installation of walls, checkpoints, etc. If we see anything, then that's the sign that the encroachment will begin. | ||
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pmp10
3396 Posts
Building of watch towers is also very likely as they were subject of negotiations few months ago. Doesn't mean land grab or expulsions will happen, but the longer this goes on the more Israel can get away with. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17486 Posts
On December 01 2024 12:42 Magic Powers wrote: Are they planning a total genocide? We can ask a simpler one: will Israel withdraw from Gaza or not? If not, then they will steal the land, as that's also been the West bank policy. Ethnic cleansing would then be guaranteed. So to know Gaza's future we need to keep an eye out for the installation of walls, checkpoints, etc. If we see anything, then that's the sign that the encroachment will begin. Steal? no one owns it or has any divine right to any piece of land... so it can not be stolen. the leaders of a nation make generations believe they "own" the land. This allows leaders to convince people to die defending "their land"; in reality, these human sacrifices are defending an empire being built by the leader. The poor schmucks on both sides of this conflict are just human sacrifices in living tribute to their respective leaders. My family is angry with me because I stopped visiting Israel. They think jerusalem is some sacred place; I do not think Jeruselum is any more important than the nothing-town i live in ... in the middle of nowhere. Israel wants its citizens to be ok with dying in the defense of Jerusalem. Sry, I ain't buying what they're selling. These people wanna keep on killing each other over Jerusalem... have at it boys. Home ownership in the middle class perspective, makes sense, because it is an appreciating asset. It is the home "owner"s bet that the current political infrastructure will continue for many decades. Thus , if people in Mississauga,ON and Stafford, VA believe the Indians will take over their cities "their" land becomes worthless. My bet is that no one will take over these towns and the value of the land will continue to rise. If a real military threat arises to take over these towns then the value of the land starts to fall; I will sell it and move. This perspective of land ownership serves the average middle class person rather than being suckered into some random ideology that convinces you its ok to die at age 18 in military conflict. | ||
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Magic Powers
Austria4478 Posts
On December 01 2024 19:41 JimmyJRaynor wrote: Steal? no one owns it or has any divine right to any piece of land... so it can not be stolen. the leaders of a nation make generations believe they "own" the land. This allows leaders to convince people to die defending "their land"; in reality, these human sacrifices are defending an empire being built by the leader. The poor schmucks on both sides of this conflict are just human sacrifices in living tribute to their respective leaders. My family is angry with me because I stopped visiting Israel. They think jerusalem is some sacred place; I do not think Jeruselum is any more important than the nothing-town i live in ... in the middle of nowhere. Israel wants its citizens to be ok with dying in the defense of Jerusalem. Sry, I ain't buying what they're selling. These people wanna keep on killing each other over Jerusalem... have at it boys. Home ownership in the middle class perspective, makes sense, because it is an appreciating asset. It is the home "owner"s bet that the current political infrastructure will continue for many decades. Thus , if people in Mississauga,ON and Stafford, VA believe the Indians will take over their cities "their" land becomes worthless. My bet is that no one will take over these towns and the value of the land will continue to rise. If a real military threat arises to take over these towns then the value of the land starts to fall; I will sell it and move. This perspective of land ownership serves the average middle class person rather than being suckered into some random ideology that convinces you its ok to die at age 18 in military conflict. I got it, in your world ownership is only when government. Thanks for the edgy, very cool. | ||
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stilt
France2755 Posts
On December 01 2024 11:24 aseq wrote: Wasn't that UN woman fired for not wanting to call it a genocide? If they are planning to that, they deserve every bit of hate they get. But the 2% of the population they killed so far in 1.5 years doesn't indicate they plan on a total genocide. Would love for the west to get an israeli official statement about the plans...with repercussions if they don't keep to those, of course. Who is the woman you are talking about ? As far as the 2% of the population, well that's already a lot, especially when you count the enjuries which is about 100k. But for now, there is no way to know the exact number of deads, especially the indirect cause like the overcrowded population combines with unclean water, too little food (which is generally canned). Here's an article about the impossibility of knowing the number of deads : https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-02508-0 The article is sadly pay walled, I don't even know how I managed to have an early access. But basically, what the epidemiologists stated is even if gaza health ministery was the most rigourous and honest ever, they couldn't assess the death toll as there have been to many displaced and chaos within the population to have accurate reports. The preocupation to report is not the first one currently, whole families have been eradicated so there is no report, some other are considered missings for now ext The indirect deaths are very hard to access as well, same for the ppl/corpses trapped under the rumbles. All the epidemiologists interviewed think the death toll is higher except one, the dude at jerusalem. All the people who have been in gaza agree that the death toll has to be higher as well considering the scale of destruction and the condition of the population. Anyway, ben gvir, an ally of smotrich in the israeli gov stated netanyahou is considering the displacement plan : https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.timesofisrael.com/ben-gvir-suggests-netanyahu-open-to-encouraging-palestinian-migration-from-gaza/amp/ Netanyahu keeps his strategic ambiguity and doesn't deny it. No reaction from the american governement either, Biden is supporting this until the end. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17486 Posts
My sister-in-law's boss is a PM for the World Central Kitchen. So I get a bit more insight than people get on the news. However, the insight I'm getting is congruent with what has happened so far. Non-arab, non-Israelis are calling "foul" and I think they are correct. Israel needs to pay more attention to non-interested, non-partisan bystanders. They are crying "foul". https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/israeli-strike-gaza-world-central-kitchen-employees-killed-1235187649/ On December 01 2024 22:02 Magic Powers wrote: I got it, in your world ownership is only when government. this is a sentence fragment. no idea what you are trying to say. Like many many people I diversify my investments with precious metals. Any government any where can be overthrown with the house-of-cards financial system in the western world. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26742 Posts
On December 05 2024 02:18 JimmyJRaynor wrote: welp, the world central kitchen has now suffered casualties 2 times due to "accidents" by Israel. looks like the world central kitchen is pulling out. My sister-in-law's boss is a PM for the World Central Kitchen. So I get a bit more insight than people get on the news. However, the insight I'm getting is congruent with what has happened so far. Non-arab, non-Israelis are calling "foul" and I think they are correct. Israel needs to pay more attention to non-interested, non-partisan bystanders. They are crying "foul". https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/israeli-strike-gaza-world-central-kitchen-employees-killed-1235187649/ this is a sentence fragment. no idea what you are trying to say. Like many many people I diversify my investments with precious metals. Any government any where can be overthrown with the house-of-cards financial system in the western world. Israel doesn’t pay all that much attention to such things, this isn’t exactly an isolated incident | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17486 Posts
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9842 Posts
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-11-30/ty-article/.premium/israeli-ministers-call-to-pro-nazi-romanian-candidate-sparks-election-interference-claims/00000193-7e20-de89-abff-7ffb63590000 What a fantastic, pro-Jewish guy this minister is. Ioanid added that "for 31 years I was part of the senior management of the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum based in Washington. I find it shocking to see a minister of the government of the State of Israel be perceived as backing, in a crucial electoral moment, a Romanian political candidate who is loudly and proudly glorifying historical figures who were directly responsible for mass murder of Jews." I think its time to re-examine what antisemitism exactly means when it comes to the Israeli state. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26742 Posts
On December 05 2024 03:09 JimmyJRaynor wrote: the IDF head guy apologized for the 1st incident. so i Israel does more than "doesn't pay all that much attention". I’m sure all the dead aid workers, journalists, peacekeepers etc sitting in some afterlife are happily placated by an apology for something that the IDF keep doing | ||
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12450 Posts
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