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pmp10
Profile Joined April 2012
3346 Posts
January 26 2025 14:54 GMT
#7581
So Trump begins lobbying Arab states for relocation of Palestinians from Gaza.
For now there is no telling how serious this idea is, but it will likely be a good guide as to his policy towards west bank.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21787 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-01-26 14:59:59
January 26 2025 14:59 GMT
#7582
On January 26 2025 23:54 pmp10 wrote:
So Trump begins lobbying Arab states for relocation of Palestinians from Gaza.
For now there is no telling how serious this idea is, but it will likely be a good guide as to his policy towards west bank.
The idea can be super serious but I highly doubt anyone wants them. There is no upside to taking them in and a whole host of downsides from extremism to health and education.

Hardly the first time this has been proposed.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Legan
Profile Joined June 2017
Finland444 Posts
January 26 2025 16:15 GMT
#7583
Well, any voter would be pretty mad at any government that has been fine with thousands of them getting killed by foreign powers.
Creator of Gresvan, Tropical Sacrifice, Taitalika, and Golden Forge
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23294 Posts
February 03 2025 18:03 GMT
#7584
First foreign leader to meet with the new US president is *drumroll* a wanted war criminal.

Israel's Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, is set to become the first foreign leader to meet President Donald Trump at the White House in his second term on Tuesday at a critical juncture for the Gaza ceasefire.

www.bbc.com

Okay this is heinous on its face, but I'm going to leave open the possibility that Trump (in his endlessly self-serving intentions) is going to be all smiley and then once the doors close be like "here's the deal, take it or you leave this room straight to the Hague" then Netanyahu thinks he's bluffing and ends up dragged out of the room in cuffs and Trump perp walks him out of the White House himself.

Probably just fascists discussing their genocidal plans though.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25637 Posts
February 03 2025 18:19 GMT
#7585
On February 04 2025 03:03 GreenHorizons wrote:
First foreign leader to meet with the new US president is *drumroll* a wanted war criminal.

Show nested quote +
Israel's Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, is set to become the first foreign leader to meet President Donald Trump at the White House in his second term on Tuesday at a critical juncture for the Gaza ceasefire.

www.bbc.com

Okay this is heinous on its face, but I'm going to leave open the possibility that Trump (in his endlessly self-serving intentions) is going to be all smiley and then once the doors close be like "here's the deal, take it or you leave this room straight to the Hague" then Netanyahu thinks he's bluffing and ends up dragged out of the room in cuffs and Trump perp walks him out of the White House himself.

Probably just fascists discussing their genocidal plans though.

Who could have possibly predicted that a Trump administration that never even pretended to give a shit about Palestinians would do this.

Who? It’s just so unpredictable!
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15713 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-02-05 01:07:55
February 05 2025 01:07 GMT
#7586
During a press conference with Netanyahu, Trump announced the US is officially taking over Gaza.



I know this take from me has always been wildly unpopular, but I truly do view this as the best case scenario for Palestinians. The world is against them. No one cares enough about them to save them. Its been 100 years. Its just a cyclic tragedy at this point and even something as heinous as ethnic cleansing is by far their best option.

Either way, now that this is the way things are going to go, I do hope this means other nations will feel forced to help out.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42963 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-02-05 01:37:52
February 05 2025 01:25 GMT
#7587
The one rule that everyone in the region has understood for decades is “don’t take responsibility for Gaza”. It’s an unbelievable humanitarian problem that cannot be fixed without crimes against humanity. An exponentially increasing population of traumatized children being raised in a prison by traumatized children with no normality, no stability, no prospects, no hope. And for the last few decades directly ruled and propagandized by a group that could be charitably described as a death cult and which viewed their suffering as something to be maximized and weaponized.

Don’t fucking touch Gaza. Egypt understands. Jordan understands. Saudi Arabia understands. Israel understands. Iran understands. Syria understands.

Trump is truly the stupidest person in every possible room. God only knows how the US military, as it will be the military asked to do this, will try to keep law and order there. It’ll be like nation building in Afghanistan if Afghanistan was also on fire and populated entirely by leopards. I’d sooner try establishing a utopia in Haiti than this.

The only hope at this point is that he backtracks the moment he gets any resistance the way he has on tariffs etc. The military is likely going to present him with a plan with a price tag in the trillions and he’ll think that’s a lot of money for whatever it was he planned on doing which honestly he’s not really sure of anymore but it was successful and it was great and he’s done with it now and tired of winning.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42963 Posts
February 05 2025 01:30 GMT
#7588
On February 05 2025 10:07 Mohdoo wrote:
Either way, now that this is the way things are going to go, I do hope this means other nations will feel forced to help out.

Name a nation stupid enough to follow America on this. I suppose the Danes have reliably had America’s back for decades. And there’s Canada, they follow America’s lead, right? And Israel has always been ready to lend a hand, or at least extend a hand, and the hand is open.

Seriously, name any possible nation that would want any part of this. Any nation.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25637 Posts
February 05 2025 01:55 GMT
#7589
It’s still somewhat better than I expected, equally I mean there’s plenty of time for zero follow through.

I’d anticipated just a straight ‘fuck Palestinians’ and it ain’t that at least. Granted my expectations are in the floor
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15713 Posts
February 05 2025 01:58 GMT
#7590
On February 05 2025 10:25 KwarK wrote:
The one rule that everyone in the region has understood for decades is “don’t take responsibility for Gaza”. It’s an unbelievable humanitarian problem that cannot be fixed without crimes against humanity. An exponentially increasing population of traumatized children being raised in a prison by traumatized children with no normality, no stability, no prospects, no hope. And for the last few decades directly ruled and propagandized by a group that could be charitably described as a death cult and which viewed their suffering as something to be maximized and weaponized.

Don’t fucking touch Gaza. Egypt understands. Jordan understands. Saudi Arabia understands. Israel understands. Iran understands. Syria understands.

Trump is truly the stupidest person in every possible room. God only knows how the US military, as it will be the military asked to do this, will try to keep law and order there. It’ll be like nation building in Afghanistan if Afghanistan was also on fire and populated entirely by leopards. I’d sooner try establishing a utopia in Haiti than this.

The only hope at this point is that he backtracks the moment he gets any resistance the way he has on tariffs etc. The military is likely going to present him with a plan with a price tag in the trillions and he’ll think that’s a lot of money for whatever it was he planned on doing which honestly he’s not really sure of anymore but it was successful and it was great and he’s done with it now and tired of winning.

Based on Netanyahu’s enormous grin, there will be no law and order. It will just be the US guaranteeing Netanyahu can conduct his ethnic cleansing as he pleases. Just look at what Trump already arranged with deporting immigrants and criminals to Ecuador. Everyone says it’s impossible to move this many people because they are assuming some level of basic human decency. There will be none. Trump will make sure planes are available to take Palestinians to some other country and that will be all the involvement IMO
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42963 Posts
February 05 2025 02:06 GMT
#7591
El Salvador, not Ecuador. But there’s no chance Egypt or Jordan go for this. Even if it was workable the optics of active participation in the ethnic cleansing are unworkable.

Also the plan where someone else builds a new Gaza city in Jordan to put all the Gazans in because the current one got bombed is laughable. What happens when day 1 in Gaza v2 someone flings a missile at Israel? It gets bombed.

They’ll have to shoot the million or so children in Gaza and I don’t believe either the IDF or US Army have the stomach for that.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
CuddlyCuteKitten
Profile Joined January 2004
Sweden2638 Posts
February 05 2025 06:42 GMT
#7592
No other country is willing to take the population from Gaza anyway. It would be suacide.
waaaaaaaaaaaooooow - Felicia, SPF2:T
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4731 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-02-05 11:02:49
February 05 2025 09:11 GMT
#7593
It's even less feasible than You guys think. Last time the Palestinians were relocated in huge numbers to Jordan they tried to overthrow the local government. + Show Spoiler +
en.wikipedia.org
No way Jordanians are giving it a second try.
Pathetic Greta hater.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21787 Posts
February 05 2025 09:32 GMT
#7594
I cant help but have a big old belly laugh for all the people voting Trump because he would put America first and cheered on him for getting the US out of Afghanistan only to now put America in one of the worst humanitarian crisis in the history of the world.

This is what happens when you elect a moron who worships other strongmen. He gets bend over.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
KT_Elwood
Profile Joined July 2015
Germany995 Posts
February 05 2025 11:08 GMT
#7595
Trump is bribing egypt to take Gazanians.

Call him the UNO Reverse Moses.
"First he eats our dogs, and then he taxes the penguins... Donald Trump truly is the Donald Trump of our generation. " -DPB
Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
1110 Posts
February 05 2025 13:20 GMT
#7596
As crazy it sounds, this totally seems like an idea he came up with on the stop and with putting only yes men around him no adult told him what a bad idea it is. I feel like there is a full time team just working on how to spin the extra super dumb shit he says.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23294 Posts
February 05 2025 13:42 GMT
#7597
On February 05 2025 15:42 CuddlyCuteKitten wrote:
No other country is willing to take the population from Gaza anyway. It would be suacide.

“Hitler didn’t want to exterminate the Jews at the time, he wanted to expel the Jews,” Stupid on its own, scary when you realize who said it.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
KT_Elwood
Profile Joined July 2015
Germany995 Posts
February 05 2025 13:44 GMT
#7598
At least the hollywood and wallstreet controlling jews of LA and NY now know where they gonna get ex...pelled to.

*cynical sarcasm is my coping mechanism to this branch of reality*


"First he eats our dogs, and then he taxes the penguins... Donald Trump truly is the Donald Trump of our generation. " -DPB
Legan
Profile Joined June 2017
Finland444 Posts
February 05 2025 14:48 GMT
#7599
Surely, they can fit a couple of camps in Gaza after Guantanamo gets too full. Unfortunately, Europeans seem to like the idea of similar camps for immigrants. UK's Rwanda plan seems great, considering recent news from Rwanda.

It is baffling to me that some seem to be okay with collective punishment and indiscriminate bombing, but this is too much. It shows how little they actually care about their values. Of course. It is neat that they can later pin everything on Trump.
Creator of Gresvan, Tropical Sacrifice, Taitalika, and Golden Forge
KT_Elwood
Profile Joined July 2015
Germany995 Posts
February 05 2025 15:06 GMT
#7600
@Legan:

Europeans fail with the idea of sending immigrants to extra territorial camps, since their own courts basicly bust the governments.

Italy wasted a whole lotta money and got to take back everyone very recently
"First he eats our dogs, and then he taxes the penguins... Donald Trump truly is the Donald Trump of our generation. " -DPB
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