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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On November 07 2020 06:01 BlueBird. wrote: From what I understand nowhere near 9K votes will actually be received back. Can you clarify? Also, these 9k aren't just military, right? Just the entirety of people living abroad. | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France8153 Posts
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farvacola
United States18866 Posts
On November 07 2020 06:01 Zerothegreat wrote: I dislike the media. Objective journalism is dead. It is the saddest thing. I honestly think majority of people that voted for Biden was just to escape the constant bludgeoning by the media for 4 more years. I think this criticism rightly applies to a segment of the media, no doubt, but there's still quite a bit of righteous fact-finding by reporters being done out there. The problem is that investigative reporting has waned in popularity by comparison with the 24/7 exposure of televised editorialism. We need to move past that for sure. | ||
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TT1
Canada10046 Posts
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Zerothegreat
United States787 Posts
On November 07 2020 06:01 Gorsameth wrote: the same things they talked about before Trump? The 24/7 news media existed before Trump and will exist after. It will just be reporting a little bit less crazy. I guess you could say they had nothing else to report on due to no new wars being started lately. | ||
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Slydie
1996 Posts
On November 07 2020 05:57 pmh wrote: As it stands now i think GA will still go to trump btw. Appearently 9k military ballots still outstanding and those will probably favor Trump quiet heavily. PA is starting to look like safe though which would be enough. AZ will hold as well i am inclined to think now. Checking AZ, Biden's lead is now under 40k, and Trump is getting very close to the 58% he needs to flip. Considering how many votes they still have to cast, it might even be the hardest state to call right now. Am I missing something about how the remaining votes are likely to lean? | ||
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Zerothegreat
United States787 Posts
On November 07 2020 06:05 TT1 wrote: from what i understand, trump hasn't tapped out yet? It's all in litigation. We won't get final results for weeks, possibly longer tbh. | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France8153 Posts
On November 07 2020 06:05 TT1 wrote: from what i understand, trump hasn't tapped out yet? That shouldn't matter. They can very well call PA and declare Biden the winner; there is no path for Trump to come back from that. | ||
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BlueBird.
United States3890 Posts
On November 07 2020 06:02 Mohdoo wrote: Can you clarify? Also, these 9k aren't just military, right? Just the entirety of people living abroad. I mean I’m just going off of what I read. They sent 9K ballots off and there is a deadline for when they need to receive them back to be counted(sounds like that day is today from a quick glance at news articles ) Since that date hasn’t been reached yet they are outstanding ballots that could change the vote. Can’t speak to that best to find a real source and not me  | ||
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
On November 07 2020 06:06 Zerothegreat wrote: I guess you could say they had nothing else to report on due to no new wars being started lately. Plenty of school shootings and right wing terrorism to go around unfortunatly. | ||
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Zerothegreat
United States787 Posts
On November 07 2020 06:06 Slydie wrote: Checking AZ, Biden's lead is now under 40k, and Trump is getting very close to the 58% he needs to flip. Considering how many votes they still have to cast, it might even be the hardest state to call right now. Am I missing something about how the remaining votes are likely to lean? Arizona has been a mail-in ballot state for a while now. It isn't something brand new for them. That is why the Republicans believe these mail-ins to lean to their favor. | ||
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farvacola
United States18866 Posts
On November 07 2020 06:07 Zerothegreat wrote: It's all in litigation. We won't get final results for weeks, possibly longer tbh. That's not quite accurate, litigation only results in a delay of other proceedings where a party successfuly moves for a TRO, temporary injunction, or a stay, a burden that Trump campaign lawyers haven't come close to meeting a single time yet before dismissal. Lawsuits or not, the electors will almost certainly vote on December 14. | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On November 07 2020 06:06 Slydie wrote: Checking AZ, Biden's lead is now under 40k, and Trump is getting very close to the 58% he needs to flip. Considering how many votes they still have to cast, it might even be the hardest state to call right now. Am I missing something about how the remaining votes are likely to lean? One Maricopa batch was like 52/48 Trump. That's real bad for his chances, and he now needs to hit over 58%. I think he needs 60% plus of all remaining ballots at this point. The most recent batch was all conservative counties. | ||
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pmh
1416 Posts
Cnn i do like but i guess that is more based on the fact that i have been watching them for over 20 years now. I dont like the way they where in the past 4 years bar a small amount of exceptions like Blitzer and King. Their constant bashing of Trump on any possible subject did annoy me a lot actually but looking back maybe they thought it was "needed" as a counterweight to Fox. The media landscape in the usa is somewhat different from the media landscape in northern europe where we have things like BBC (uk),"vpro" (the netherlands) and "canvas" (belgium) (these i watch most but there is more) which have very nuanced vieuws and reporting. ABC which i did discover during this election is quiet decent though. | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
On November 07 2020 06:05 Biff The Understudy wrote: It's kind of weird that the election is not called already isn't it? I mean, how is Trump supposed to come back in PA? It's been called by at least three outlets. Decision Desk, Vox, and Business Times have all called it for Biden. Not calling it is just journalistic malpractice by Fox, MSNBC, CNN, et al. ABC has a long standing policy that they won't call an election that is <1% of the vote, which is the only reason I'm excluding them. The issue is that every second they delay calling it is one that lets these conspiracies get worse. | ||
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12487 Posts
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22492 Posts
On November 07 2020 06:11 Nevuk wrote: The conspiracies won't stop because networks called the election, infact they would likely ramp up more as Trump supporters that aren't clutched to updates seek to explain their candidate officially losing.It's been called by at least three outlets. Decision Desk, Vox, and Business Times have all called it for Biden. Not calling it is just journalistic malpractice by Fox, MSNBC, CNN, et al. ABC has a long standing policy that they won't call an election that is <1% of the vote, which is the only reason I'm excluding them. The issue is that every second they delay calling it is one that lets these conspiracies get worse. | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On November 07 2020 06:11 Nevuk wrote: It's been called by at least three outlets. Decision Desk, Vox, and Business Times have all called it for Biden. Not calling it is just journalistic malpractice by Fox, MSNBC, CNN, et al. ABC has a long standing policy that they won't call an election that is <1% of the vote, which is the only reason I'm excluding them. The issue is that every second they delay calling it is one that lets these conspiracies get worse. What's worse is they're reaching into incredulity to find reasons not to call PA, which will give people incorrect expectations. I mean, in what universe will the provisional ballots, 40K of which are in Philly, gain Trump votes? Those are probably going to break 70-30 or 80-20 to Biden... | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
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Biff The Understudy
France8153 Posts
On November 07 2020 06:11 Nevuk wrote: It's been called by at least three outlets. Decision Desk, Vox, and Business Times have all called it for Biden. Not calling it is just journalistic malpractice by Fox, MSNBC, CNN, et al. ABC has a long standing policy that they won't call an election that is <1% of the vote, which is the only reason I'm excluding them. The issue is that every second they delay calling it is one that lets these conspiracies get worse. Yeah that makes sense. The NYT still hasn't called it either though. No idea what they are doing.. | ||
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