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farvacola
United States18866 Posts
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dbRic1203
Germany2655 Posts
On November 07 2020 06:12 Nebuchad wrote: Tonight our newspaper is saying that Biden won thanks to a breakthrough with the black electorate and white women, I had heard otherwise. Is there some new information or are we publishing cringe as usual? I m 99% sure, that Trump expanded in all ethnitys but white men. Yes Biden did get more than 50% votes from women and more than 50% from minorities. But he did worse than Clinton or Obama. I think at least, all those informations come from this thread and could probaly outdated or I could remember them wrong | ||
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Starlightsun
United States1405 Posts
On November 07 2020 06:06 Zerothegreat wrote: I guess you could say they had nothing else to report on due to no new wars being started lately. I mean there's plenty going on in the world. It would help our country a lot if we were more informed about international news. Even in the US there's so much they could shed light on but it takes work for both the journalists and listeners to parse real issues rather than just do tabloid Trump 24/7. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Zerothegreat
United States787 Posts
On November 07 2020 06:10 pmh wrote: I dont think objective journalism is dead but its harder to find. Cnn i do like but i guess that is more based on the fact that i have been watching them for over 20 years now. I dont like the way they where in the past 4 years bar a small amount of exceptions like Blitzer and King. Their constant bashing of Trump on any possible subject did annoy me a lot actually but looking back maybe they thought it was "needed" as a counterweight to Fox. The media landscape in the usa is somewhat different from the media landscape in northern europe where we have things like BBC (uk),"vpro" (the netherlands) and "canvas" (belgium) (these i watch most but there is more) which have very nuanced vieuws and reporting. ABC which i did discover during this election is quiet decent though. Speaking about Fox. Going to watch "the loudest voice" which is on in a few minutes. For those who want to understand how some of the USA media is working on the inside this show is definitely worth watching (and its very good in general,also when vieuwed only for entertainment). CNN lost me when they kept claiming "Facts First." While their hosts also called every Trump voter a racist without evidence. The word racist gets thrown in every argument left leaning media disagrees with. The word doesn't even mean anything anymore. | ||
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dbRic1203
Germany2655 Posts
On November 07 2020 06:20 JimmiC wrote: Correct, he is being beaten and bloodied, the fans and announcers are calling for everyone to stop it but he won't tap. He is currently claiming that he got eye poked in the groin while he was a downed opponent who was grabbing the cage but the replay shows none of this has happened. Sadly it is OLD school with no rounds or end times so it may even take longer than Shamrock Vs Graice but at least in this case at some point it should get declared. Trump has one barracks in the corner of the map and its burning and he s asking for tie and then rematch. Also he had insane lag, obviously | ||
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Zerothegreat
United States787 Posts
On November 07 2020 06:20 Starlightsun wrote: I mean there's plenty going on in the world. It would help our country a lot if we were more informed about international news. Even in the US there's so much they could shed light on but it takes work for both the journalists and listeners to parse real issues rather than just do tabloid Trump 24/7. They didn't even wanna report on the Middle East deals because they was afraid it would make Trump look good lol. So yeah it makes it hard to hear about international news these days. | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
And even they're acting like buffoons. I don't believe for a second their algorithm says AZ is more likely to stay blue than PA is right now. It's absurd. Either retract the AZ call, make the PA call, or admit you don't make these calls based on probability. | ||
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TT1
Canada10046 Posts
helluva movie script | ||
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Zidane
United States1692 Posts
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GuybrushThreepwood
16 Posts
On November 07 2020 06:21 Zerothegreat wrote: CNN lost me when they kept claiming "Facts First." While their hosts also called every Trump voter a racist without evidence. The word racist gets thrown in every argument left leaning media disagrees with. The word doesn't even mean anything anymore. Wut the heck | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France8153 Posts
On November 07 2020 06:20 JimmiC wrote: Correct, he is being beaten and bloodied, the fans and announcers are calling for everyone to stop it but he won't tap. He is currently claiming that he got eye poked in the groin while he was a downed opponent who was grabbing the cage but the replay shows none of this has happened. Sadly it is OLD school with no rounds or end times so it may even take longer than Shamrock Vs Graice but at least in this case at some point it should get declared. It's just a flesh wound!!!! | ||
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IyMoon
United States1249 Posts
On November 07 2020 06:24 TT1 wrote: the fear is that Trump never admits defeat, continues with his rallies and becomes this shadow president for the next 4 years helluva movie script I fully expect Trump to do something illegal if he trys it, and to be arrested for it | ||
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32754 Posts
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Acrofales
Spain18399 Posts
On November 07 2020 01:16 JimmiC wrote: Shaming might be effective at getting people to act a certain way in public. But the flip side of that coin is that it is also super effective at building resentment and anger. And these are what rightwing populists have tapped into and had massive success with. Shaming is short term gain that inflicts long term pain as far as society is concerned. Not sure this is true. There's some very interesting work from behavioral economics, that shows monetary punishment alone does not make people conform to rules, but if the fine is accompanied by a verbal (public) admonishment, it does. And *only* the admonishment works better than only the fine. Whether that's what you want to do to Trumpers? I doubt it. Ostracizing people for having a different opinion is a dangerous road to go down. Even if that opinion is deplorable. | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On November 07 2020 06:26 PhoenixVoid wrote: Election desks are probably dragging this out because it's ratings gold to keep people on tenterhooks and glued to the screen. I assume around 5-6 PM EST when people are finished with work and back to watching and PA is at or above a 35k vote lead for Biden, they'll call it and then transition to Biden's victory speech at 8. I honestly don't think the networks will call PA with a 35K lead for Biden at this point. AP will have to do it first. | ||
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GoShox
United States1845 Posts
On November 07 2020 06:26 PhoenixVoid wrote: Election desks are probably dragging this out because it's ratings gold to keep people on tenterhooks and glued to the screen. I assume around 5-6 PM EST when people are finished with work and back to watching and PA is at or above a 35k vote lead for Biden, they'll call it and then transition to Biden's victory speech at 8. I detest the 24/7 news media but I've shamelessly been glued to CNN for the past 3 days. It's reminded me why I despise what it's become; it's hilarious how they've had "BREAKING NEWS" up on the screen the entire time, while most of the time it's simply "Votes currently being counted in Arizona!!!" or "Biden close to winning the election!!!" But yeah I think this is spot on. | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
On November 07 2020 06:29 TheTenthDoc wrote: I honestly don't think the networks will call PA with a 35K lead for Biden at this point. AP will have to do it first. MSNBC has said they'll call it at 30k Biden lead. It's already super obvious that he'll hit that, so I dunno what they're doing. | ||
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12487 Posts
On November 07 2020 06:21 Zerothegreat wrote: CNN lost me when they kept claiming "Facts First." While their hosts also called every Trump voter a racist without evidence. The word racist gets thrown in every argument left leaning media disagrees with. The word doesn't even mean anything anymore. 0% chance that CNN said every Trump voter is racist. It's mostly true, but they would never say it. | ||
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Ben...
Canada3485 Posts
On November 07 2020 06:20 JimmiC wrote: Correct, he is being beaten and bloodied, the fans and announcers are calling for everyone to stop it but he won't tap. He is currently claiming that he got eye poked in the groin while he was a downed opponent who was grabbing the cage but the replay shows none of this has happened. Sadly it is OLD school with no rounds or end times so it may even take longer than Shamrock Vs Graice but at least in this case at some point it should get declared. He seems to think himself Rocky fighting Ivan Drago but the reality is he's Apollo Creed. | ||
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