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On November 07 2020 07:06 TheTenthDoc wrote:They're covering their ass. The idea that PA "will be - or is likely to become - in range of a recount" is a smokescreen; the state should end up +70K Biden at least. Also, they better uncall AZ then! Because the chances that ends up in recount range is way higher than PA.
I mean I think the odds of AZ flipping aren’t totally insignificant, so yes. But for recount specifically I’m having some trouble parsing this but AZ’s recount threshold is either (depending on which clause applies) 0.1% or 200 votes?
Are we 99.5% sure PA will be >0.5% after provisionals, etc.?
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Kinda wish danglars was here. He wasn't much, but he wasn't wildly conspiratorial.
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On November 07 2020 06:35 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2020 06:16 Biff The Understudy wrote:On November 07 2020 06:11 Nevuk wrote:On November 07 2020 06:05 Biff The Understudy wrote:
It's kind of weird that the election is not called already isn't it? I mean, how is Trump supposed to come back in PA? It's been called by at least three outlets. Decision Desk, Vox, and Business Times have all called it for Biden. Not calling it is just journalistic malpractice by Fox, MSNBC, CNN, et al. ABC has a long standing policy that they won't call an election that is <1% of the vote, which is the only reason I'm excluding them. The issue is that every second they delay calling it is one that lets these conspiracies get worse. Yeah that makes sense. The NYT still hasn't called it either though. No idea what they are doing.. NYT doesn't have a decision desk that calls elections--they follow the calls made by AP and the big TV decision desks. They do review them, and may decline to follow a call if they're not convinced (such as in Arizona), but they won't call races themselves.
imagine NYT not having a decision desk but Teamliquid does.
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On November 07 2020 07:11 Zerothegreat wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2020 06:30 Nebuchad wrote:On November 07 2020 06:21 Zerothegreat wrote:On November 07 2020 06:10 pmh wrote:
I dont think objective journalism is dead but its harder to find.
Cnn i do like but i guess that is more based on the fact that i have been watching them for over 20 years now. I dont like the way they where in the past 4 years bar a small amount of exceptions like Blitzer and King.
Their constant bashing of Trump on any possible subject did annoy me a lot actually but looking back maybe they thought it was "needed" as a counterweight to Fox.
The media landscape in the usa is somewhat different from the media landscape in northern europe where we have things like BBC (uk),"vpro" (the netherlands) and "canvas" (belgium) (these i watch most but there is more) which have very nuanced vieuws and reporting.
ABC which i did discover during this election is quiet decent though.
Speaking about Fox. Going to watch "the loudest voice" which is on in a few minutes. For those who want to understand how some of the USA media is working on the inside this show is definitely worth watching (and its very good in general,also when vieuwed only for entertainment). CNN lost me when they kept claiming "Facts First." While their hosts also called every Trump voter a racist without evidence. The word racist gets thrown in every argument left leaning media disagrees with. The word doesn't even mean anything anymore. 0% chance that CNN said every Trump voter is racist. It's mostly true, but they would never say it. Here it is in another segment I found: https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/04/politics/black-voters-2020-election-donald-trump-white-nationalism/index.htmlAnd here is another segment of CNN attacking voters: https://video.foxnews.com/v/6185625550001#sp=show-clipsIt is bias as can be. And the fact you say it is mostly true means you should explain how you draw that conclusion? The leader of Proud Boys is not white. Trump made waves with more minority voters than any Republican in decades. So you need to provide evidence not wild accusations.
Methinks the lady doth protest too much.
Even in the clip you showed the other host doesn’t appear to agree with Lemon’s blame the voter angle. CNN is neither a homogenous news organisation with no divergence of opinion, nor have they to my knowledge said all Trump voters are racist.
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On November 07 2020 07:27 JimmiC wrote:I'm not sure if this is for the Covid thread or here, but here is my best guess. The places with the biggest covid surges voted Trump. So depending on how these counties handle it, they might not all be Trump supporters in a few months. U.S. counties with highest virus surges overwhelmingly voted Trump, analysis shows https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/covid-19-counties-election-1.5792180
Biden will not have any power until the transition of power in january right ?
Next 2 months aren't going to be pretty.
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Northern Ireland27464 Posts
On November 07 2020 07:25 FlaShFTW wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2020 06:35 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On November 07 2020 06:16 Biff The Understudy wrote:On November 07 2020 06:11 Nevuk wrote:On November 07 2020 06:05 Biff The Understudy wrote:
It's kind of weird that the election is not called already isn't it? I mean, how is Trump supposed to come back in PA? It's been called by at least three outlets. Decision Desk, Vox, and Business Times have all called it for Biden. Not calling it is just journalistic malpractice by Fox, MSNBC, CNN, et al. ABC has a long standing policy that they won't call an election that is <1% of the vote, which is the only reason I'm excluding them. The issue is that every second they delay calling it is one that lets these conspiracies get worse. Yeah that makes sense. The NYT still hasn't called it either though. No idea what they are doing.. NYT doesn't have a decision desk that calls elections--they follow the calls made by AP and the big TV decision desks. They do review them, and may decline to follow a call if they're not convinced (such as in Arizona), but they won't call races themselves. imagine NYT not having a decision desk but Teamliquid does.
We’d make a pretty sweet cable news channel. You’d have Flash FloodingTM keeping up with elections, a daily 4 hour debate between Jimmi and GH and the rest of the air time would consist of loose unstructured round table discussions about all sorts.
Anyone who transgressed in the round table would be dealt with by the mods emerging from the floor and hitting them repeatedly with giant inflatable banhammers.
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I could rant and shout angrily! I do love to rant and shout
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On November 07 2020 07:27 JimmiC wrote:I'm not sure if this is for the Covid thread or here, but here is my best guess. The places with the biggest covid surges voted Trump. So depending on how these counties handle it, they might not all be Trump supporters in a few months. U.S. counties with highest virus surges overwhelmingly voted Trump, analysis shows https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/covid-19-counties-election-1.5792180
This correlation could work in many different ways,i wouldnt draw conclusions from this easily.
250k left to count with a 40k lead for Biden in AZ,its going to be close.
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On November 07 2020 06:21 Zerothegreat wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2020 06:10 pmh wrote:
I dont think objective journalism is dead but its harder to find.
Cnn i do like but i guess that is more based on the fact that i have been watching them for over 20 years now. I dont like the way they where in the past 4 years bar a small amount of exceptions like Blitzer and King.
Their constant bashing of Trump on any possible subject did annoy me a lot actually but looking back maybe they thought it was "needed" as a counterweight to Fox.
The media landscape in the usa is somewhat different from the media landscape in northern europe where we have things like BBC (uk),"vpro" (the netherlands) and "canvas" (belgium) (these i watch most but there is more) which have very nuanced vieuws and reporting.
ABC which i did discover during this election is quiet decent though.
Speaking about Fox. Going to watch "the loudest voice" which is on in a few minutes. For those who want to understand how some of the USA media is working on the inside this show is definitely worth watching (and its very good in general,also when vieuwed only for entertainment). CNN lost me when they kept claiming "Facts First." While their hosts also called every Trump voter a racist without evidence. The word racist gets thrown in every argument left leaning media disagrees with. The word doesn't even mean anything anymore.
That is a pretty broad brush you're painting with here.
Kinda reeks after a [citation needed]
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On November 07 2020 07:32 WombaT wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2020 07:25 FlaShFTW wrote:On November 07 2020 06:35 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On November 07 2020 06:16 Biff The Understudy wrote:On November 07 2020 06:11 Nevuk wrote:On November 07 2020 06:05 Biff The Understudy wrote:
It's kind of weird that the election is not called already isn't it? I mean, how is Trump supposed to come back in PA? It's been called by at least three outlets. Decision Desk, Vox, and Business Times have all called it for Biden. Not calling it is just journalistic malpractice by Fox, MSNBC, CNN, et al. ABC has a long standing policy that they won't call an election that is <1% of the vote, which is the only reason I'm excluding them. The issue is that every second they delay calling it is one that lets these conspiracies get worse. Yeah that makes sense. The NYT still hasn't called it either though. No idea what they are doing.. NYT doesn't have a decision desk that calls elections--they follow the calls made by AP and the big TV decision desks. They do review them, and may decline to follow a call if they're not convinced (such as in Arizona), but they won't call races themselves. imagine NYT not having a decision desk but Teamliquid does. We’d make a pretty sweet cable news channel. You’d have Flash FloodingTM keeping up with elections, a daily 4 hour debate between Jimmi and GH and the rest of the air time would consist of loose unstructured round table discussions about all sorts. Anyone who transgressed in the round table would be dealt with by the mods emerging from the floor and hitting them repeatedly with giant inflatable banhammers.
Sounds like a Joe Rogan podcast lmfao
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On November 07 2020 07:32 WombaT wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2020 07:25 FlaShFTW wrote:On November 07 2020 06:35 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On November 07 2020 06:16 Biff The Understudy wrote:On November 07 2020 06:11 Nevuk wrote:On November 07 2020 06:05 Biff The Understudy wrote:
It's kind of weird that the election is not called already isn't it? I mean, how is Trump supposed to come back in PA? It's been called by at least three outlets. Decision Desk, Vox, and Business Times have all called it for Biden. Not calling it is just journalistic malpractice by Fox, MSNBC, CNN, et al. ABC has a long standing policy that they won't call an election that is <1% of the vote, which is the only reason I'm excluding them. The issue is that every second they delay calling it is one that lets these conspiracies get worse. Yeah that makes sense. The NYT still hasn't called it either though. No idea what they are doing.. NYT doesn't have a decision desk that calls elections--they follow the calls made by AP and the big TV decision desks. They do review them, and may decline to follow a call if they're not convinced (such as in Arizona), but they won't call races themselves. imagine NYT not having a decision desk but Teamliquid does. We’d make a pretty sweet cable news channel. You’d have Flash FloodingTM keeping up with elections, a daily 4 hour debate between Jimmi and GH and the rest of the air time would consist of loose unstructured round table discussions about all sorts. Anyone who transgressed in the round table would be dealt with by the mods emerging from the floor and hitting them repeatedly with giant inflatable banhammers.
Oh, I want in!!!!
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On November 07 2020 07:11 Zerothegreat wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2020 06:30 Nebuchad wrote:On November 07 2020 06:21 Zerothegreat wrote:On November 07 2020 06:10 pmh wrote:
I dont think objective journalism is dead but its harder to find.
Cnn i do like but i guess that is more based on the fact that i have been watching them for over 20 years now. I dont like the way they where in the past 4 years bar a small amount of exceptions like Blitzer and King.
Their constant bashing of Trump on any possible subject did annoy me a lot actually but looking back maybe they thought it was "needed" as a counterweight to Fox.
The media landscape in the usa is somewhat different from the media landscape in northern europe where we have things like BBC (uk),"vpro" (the netherlands) and "canvas" (belgium) (these i watch most but there is more) which have very nuanced vieuws and reporting.
ABC which i did discover during this election is quiet decent though.
Speaking about Fox. Going to watch "the loudest voice" which is on in a few minutes. For those who want to understand how some of the USA media is working on the inside this show is definitely worth watching (and its very good in general,also when vieuwed only for entertainment). CNN lost me when they kept claiming "Facts First." While their hosts also called every Trump voter a racist without evidence. The word racist gets thrown in every argument left leaning media disagrees with. The word doesn't even mean anything anymore. 0% chance that CNN said every Trump voter is racist. It's mostly true, but they would never say it. Here it is in another segment I found: https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/04/politics/black-voters-2020-election-donald-trump-white-nationalism/index.htmlAnd here is another segment of CNN attacking voters: https://video.foxnews.com/v/6185625550001#sp=show-clipsIt is bias as can be. And the fact you say it is mostly true means you should explain how you draw that conclusion? The leader of Proud Boys is not white. Trump made waves with more minority voters than any Republican in decades. So you need to provide evidence not wild accusations.
I will watch these videos, maybe CNN is more based than I thought.
What is it about racism that you don't like?
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On November 07 2020 07:34 FlaShFTW wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2020 07:32 WombaT wrote:On November 07 2020 07:25 FlaShFTW wrote:On November 07 2020 06:35 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On November 07 2020 06:16 Biff The Understudy wrote:On November 07 2020 06:11 Nevuk wrote:On November 07 2020 06:05 Biff The Understudy wrote:
It's kind of weird that the election is not called already isn't it? I mean, how is Trump supposed to come back in PA? It's been called by at least three outlets. Decision Desk, Vox, and Business Times have all called it for Biden. Not calling it is just journalistic malpractice by Fox, MSNBC, CNN, et al. ABC has a long standing policy that they won't call an election that is <1% of the vote, which is the only reason I'm excluding them. The issue is that every second they delay calling it is one that lets these conspiracies get worse. Yeah that makes sense. The NYT still hasn't called it either though. No idea what they are doing.. NYT doesn't have a decision desk that calls elections--they follow the calls made by AP and the big TV decision desks. They do review them, and may decline to follow a call if they're not convinced (such as in Arizona), but they won't call races themselves. imagine NYT not having a decision desk but Teamliquid does. We’d make a pretty sweet cable news channel. You’d have Flash FloodingTM keeping up with elections, a daily 4 hour debate between Jimmi and GH and the rest of the air time would consist of loose unstructured round table discussions about all sorts. Anyone who transgressed in the round table would be dealt with by the mods emerging from the floor and hitting them repeatedly with giant inflatable banhammers. Sounds like a Joe Rogan podcast lmfao
"So what do you know about THC"
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On November 07 2020 07:38 Cricketer12 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2020 07:34 FlaShFTW wrote:On November 07 2020 07:32 WombaT wrote:On November 07 2020 07:25 FlaShFTW wrote:On November 07 2020 06:35 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On November 07 2020 06:16 Biff The Understudy wrote:On November 07 2020 06:11 Nevuk wrote:On November 07 2020 06:05 Biff The Understudy wrote:
It's kind of weird that the election is not called already isn't it? I mean, how is Trump supposed to come back in PA? It's been called by at least three outlets. Decision Desk, Vox, and Business Times have all called it for Biden. Not calling it is just journalistic malpractice by Fox, MSNBC, CNN, et al. ABC has a long standing policy that they won't call an election that is <1% of the vote, which is the only reason I'm excluding them. The issue is that every second they delay calling it is one that lets these conspiracies get worse. Yeah that makes sense. The NYT still hasn't called it either though. No idea what they are doing.. NYT doesn't have a decision desk that calls elections--they follow the calls made by AP and the big TV decision desks. They do review them, and may decline to follow a call if they're not convinced (such as in Arizona), but they won't call races themselves. imagine NYT not having a decision desk but Teamliquid does. We’d make a pretty sweet cable news channel. You’d have Flash FloodingTM keeping up with elections, a daily 4 hour debate between Jimmi and GH and the rest of the air time would consist of loose unstructured round table discussions about all sorts. Anyone who transgressed in the round table would be dealt with by the mods emerging from the floor and hitting them repeatedly with giant inflatable banhammers. Sounds like a Joe Rogan podcast lmfao "So what do you know about THC"
Election update? Flash pull that up.
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On November 07 2020 07:41 FlaShFTW wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2020 07:38 Cricketer12 wrote:On November 07 2020 07:34 FlaShFTW wrote:On November 07 2020 07:32 WombaT wrote:On November 07 2020 07:25 FlaShFTW wrote:On November 07 2020 06:35 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On November 07 2020 06:16 Biff The Understudy wrote:On November 07 2020 06:11 Nevuk wrote:On November 07 2020 06:05 Biff The Understudy wrote:
It's kind of weird that the election is not called already isn't it? I mean, how is Trump supposed to come back in PA? It's been called by at least three outlets. Decision Desk, Vox, and Business Times have all called it for Biden. Not calling it is just journalistic malpractice by Fox, MSNBC, CNN, et al. ABC has a long standing policy that they won't call an election that is <1% of the vote, which is the only reason I'm excluding them. The issue is that every second they delay calling it is one that lets these conspiracies get worse. Yeah that makes sense. The NYT still hasn't called it either though. No idea what they are doing.. NYT doesn't have a decision desk that calls elections--they follow the calls made by AP and the big TV decision desks. They do review them, and may decline to follow a call if they're not convinced (such as in Arizona), but they won't call races themselves. imagine NYT not having a decision desk but Teamliquid does. We’d make a pretty sweet cable news channel. You’d have Flash FloodingTM keeping up with elections, a daily 4 hour debate between Jimmi and GH and the rest of the air time would consist of loose unstructured round table discussions about all sorts. Anyone who transgressed in the round table would be dealt with by the mods emerging from the floor and hitting them repeatedly with giant inflatable banhammers. Sounds like a Joe Rogan podcast lmfao "So what do you know about THC" Election update? Flash pull that up.
You think Trump puts ketchup on Elk meat?
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On November 07 2020 07:43 Cricketer12 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2020 07:41 FlaShFTW wrote:On November 07 2020 07:38 Cricketer12 wrote:On November 07 2020 07:34 FlaShFTW wrote:On November 07 2020 07:32 WombaT wrote:On November 07 2020 07:25 FlaShFTW wrote:On November 07 2020 06:35 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On November 07 2020 06:16 Biff The Understudy wrote:On November 07 2020 06:11 Nevuk wrote:On November 07 2020 06:05 Biff The Understudy wrote:
It's kind of weird that the election is not called already isn't it? I mean, how is Trump supposed to come back in PA? It's been called by at least three outlets. Decision Desk, Vox, and Business Times have all called it for Biden. Not calling it is just journalistic malpractice by Fox, MSNBC, CNN, et al. ABC has a long standing policy that they won't call an election that is <1% of the vote, which is the only reason I'm excluding them. The issue is that every second they delay calling it is one that lets these conspiracies get worse. Yeah that makes sense. The NYT still hasn't called it either though. No idea what they are doing.. NYT doesn't have a decision desk that calls elections--they follow the calls made by AP and the big TV decision desks. They do review them, and may decline to follow a call if they're not convinced (such as in Arizona), but they won't call races themselves. imagine NYT not having a decision desk but Teamliquid does. We’d make a pretty sweet cable news channel. You’d have Flash FloodingTM keeping up with elections, a daily 4 hour debate between Jimmi and GH and the rest of the air time would consist of loose unstructured round table discussions about all sorts. Anyone who transgressed in the round table would be dealt with by the mods emerging from the floor and hitting them repeatedly with giant inflatable banhammers. Sounds like a Joe Rogan podcast lmfao "So what do you know about THC" Election update? Flash pull that up. You think Trump puts ketchup on Elk meat?
Have you ever seen a silverback gorilla?
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Meanwhile in Pennsylvania:
Mod Edit: Dumb Link
American democracy is officially a joke.
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On November 07 2020 07:46 Pr0wler wrote:
Meanwhile in Pennsylvania:
American democracy is officially a joke.
The guy on top is telling her the votes, she is re-marking ballots. Literally as simple as that. I'm not expert, nor have I done this in my life, but that's what it looks like to me. Why else does the guy on top have a stack of ballots that are clearly already marked and then when she fills the last bubble he flips over that ballot and starts to read off the next one?
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That is a parody account I don't know if it's a real video of voter fraud.
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