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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
November 06 2020 16:46 GMT
#4421
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dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-06 16:47:46
November 06 2020 16:46 GMT
#4422
On November 07 2020 01:44 FlaShFTW wrote:
sigh...

BREAKING NEWS: The TL.net Decision Desk has a projection to make... that we already made over 12 hours ago. The TL.net Decision Desk can project that the states of Arizona, with its 11 Electoral votes, Nevada, with its 6 electoral votes, and Pennsylvania, with its 20 electoral votes, will go to Former Vice President Joe Biden. This puts Joe Biden at 290 projected electoral votes, making him the President-Elect of the United States.

We have not called Georgia yet... actually you know what? No fuck that noise. The TL.net Decision desk also projects Georgia to go to Joe Biden, increasing his total electoral vote tally to 306. There, end of the election. I'm grabbing a drink.

GGs

On November 07 2020 01:46 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2020 01:40 dbRic1203 wrote:
On November 07 2020 01:36 FlaShFTW wrote:
https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/1324751875112128513?s=20

Nevada lead widened. Jesus christ just call it. Or do I need to do it again?

Yes, please.
Also wtf is this about:


I m watching ABC and they have been saying the entire day, that in Pennsylvania there have been observers ALL THE TIME.

I mean it is Donald Trump, making easily proven wrong declarations of fact is basically his go to move.


My hope is that his long time legacy is that when a politician makes one of these people say "OH on he just pulled a Trump" .


I think he quoted some FOX news guy, as there is a whole thread where he keeps rumbling on
MaxPax
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46248 Posts
November 06 2020 16:46 GMT
#4423
On November 07 2020 01:44 FlaShFTW wrote:
sigh...

BREAKING NEWS: The TL.net Decision Desk has a projection to make... that we already made over 12 hours ago. The TL.net Decision Desk can project that the states of Arizona, with its 11 Electoral votes, Nevada, with its 6 electoral votes, and Pennsylvania, with its 20 electoral votes, will go to Former Vice President Joe Biden. This puts Joe Biden at 290 projected electoral votes, making him the President-Elect of the United States.

We have not called Georgia yet... actually you know what? No fuck that noise. The TL.net Decision desk also projects Georgia to go to Joe Biden, increasing his total electoral vote tally to 306. There, end of the election. I'm grabbing a drink.


It's official!
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
November 06 2020 16:48 GMT
#4424
On November 07 2020 01:32 Nevuk wrote:
Ironically, the biggest impediment to rural areas is probably lack of investment in their internet infrastructure (which has been enabled by Rebulicans refusing to publish comcast for literally burning government money instead of using it for this purpose) and anti-WFH culture(solved somewhat by covid). If you can get a job in a city and work from you farm 4 hours away then the distance of the actual job doesn't matter much.

This is what my brother-in-law does, but he still has issues since being an hour from the nearest city means that his only option is 512kbps DSL or super expensive satellite.
(My sister is a doctor and has 5 goats, 20 chickens, some turkeys, 4 cats, 3 dogs, and apparently just got some pigs... they just have most of them for fun? I don't really get it, aside from the chickens whose eags they eat and the goats who do their lawn.)

Well, they are spending a good $20 billion on better rural internet. Hopefully fiber or at least 5G eventually.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
November 06 2020 16:48 GMT
#4425
I'd love to be a fly on the wall behind the scenes of the decision desks right now. I'm pretty sure the stats people and modelers are like "just let us call it for Christ's sake" and the bosses are like "ehhhhhhhhh."
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10530 Posts
November 06 2020 16:49 GMT
#4426
On November 07 2020 01:46 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2020 01:44 FlaShFTW wrote:
sigh...

BREAKING NEWS: The TL.net Decision Desk has a projection to make... that we already made over 12 hours ago. The TL.net Decision Desk can project that the states of Arizona, with its 11 Electoral votes, Nevada, with its 6 electoral votes, and Pennsylvania, with its 20 electoral votes, will go to Former Vice President Joe Biden. This puts Joe Biden at 290 projected electoral votes, making him the President-Elect of the United States.

We have not called Georgia yet... actually you know what? No fuck that noise. The TL.net Decision desk also projects Georgia to go to Joe Biden, increasing his total electoral vote tally to 306. There, end of the election. I'm grabbing a drink.


It's official!

I'm gonna petition our social media guys to give me a TL.net political twitter account to shit post with next election.
Writer#1 KT and FlaSh Fanboy || Woo Jung Ho Never Forget || Teamliquid Political Decision Desk
TL+ Member
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
November 06 2020 16:49 GMT
#4427
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Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
November 06 2020 16:51 GMT
#4428
Oh man i'm thoroughly enjoying the DJT salt. Can't wait to see how much of a sore loser he is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
November 06 2020 16:52 GMT
#4429
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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10530 Posts
November 06 2020 16:52 GMT
#4430
https://twitter.com/TheWomensOrg/status/1324653254450569218?s=20

800k?! Holy shit she basically won Georgia for Biden. She needs a payroll bump or a top spot in the DNC at this point.
Writer#1 KT and FlaSh Fanboy || Woo Jung Ho Never Forget || Teamliquid Political Decision Desk
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ChristianS
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3304 Posts
November 06 2020 16:53 GMT
#4431
On November 07 2020 00:50 FlaShFTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2020 00:46 Nevuk wrote:
I don't think there's a need for Biden to childishly attack Trump. That's what we have late night comedians (and Obama) for. (Obama has been doing some pretty funny Trump roasts lately).

With that said, we can't let it end like Nixon where the president was pardoned of all crimes, got away with no actual punishment, and the US people never got the full story of what happened. That just paves the way for another Trump in the future.

There was an excellent piece in 2016 from some major college about how to deal with Trump supporters when he lost (they were way too hopeful), and it basically said to not talk about Trump with his supporters and just let them deal with it in their own way, as attacking them for voting for Trump would just make them dig in their heels and feel ashamed/embarassed . That's still good logic for me, but there's a difference between attacking his voters and his enablers.

Yes. We don't heal this country by mocking the other side. We heal by coming together, letting those people sit and reflect, and then when they're ready, we break bread and discuss politics like civilized people. This didn't happen in 2016 when Trump supporters were gleeful and full on mocking/making really hurtful messages to the liberals who lost. Myself included. Took me a couple years to realize that all that does is sow the divisiveness in this country. We get a couple days to celebrate as Biden supporters, but after that, we calm down, we let the electoral process do it's job, we celebrate again on Inauguration day, and then we move forward.

I don’t know what “healing the country” looks like in this environment. It’s not just that Republicans obviously have no interest in “coming together” (although I wonder how long we’ll keep seeing those “fuck your feelings” shirts in the wild). They’ve overridden basically every democratic norm as soon as it remotely impeded power acquisition. It far predates the last four years, they still have most of the spoils of those moves, and they’ve given no indication whatsoever of stopping.

If GA goes how we should expect, and they retain the Senate, it’s very unlikely they’ll let Biden appoint a cabinet. If any judge seats need to be filled, they’ll leave them vacant until either they get back the White House, or Dems get back the Senate. Meanwhile every Dem state legislature will appoint an independent commission for drawing district lines, while every Republican state legislature will find the mathematically optimal configuration for maximum Republican seats with minimum persuaded voters.

The only part of what I just said that seems likely to change is Dems deciding they have to gerrymander too to stay competitive. Like, if this had been a landslide maybe some Republicans would pretend some contrition and appeal to restoring norms now that it would hurt them, but with this outcome they can stay the course, and almost certainly take back the House in 2022 while vowing to make Biden a 1 term president.

What healing is to be done there?
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." -Robert J. Hanlon
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22492 Posts
November 06 2020 16:55 GMT
#4432
On November 07 2020 01:39 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2020 01:36 FlaShFTW wrote:
https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/1324751875112128513?s=20

Nevada lead widened. Jesus christ just call it. Or do I need to do it again?

Maybe TL needs to start promoting itself as a political analysis site and can brag about how accurate and early the calling of states was done. We have to be at least is credible as some of the sites that get listed.
Please don't give the mods an aneurysm by suggest to attract outside people to discuss politics on TL :p
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27236 Posts
November 06 2020 16:56 GMT
#4433
On November 07 2020 01:55 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2020 01:39 JimmiC wrote:
On November 07 2020 01:36 FlaShFTW wrote:
https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/1324751875112128513?s=20

Nevada lead widened. Jesus christ just call it. Or do I need to do it again?

Maybe TL needs to start promoting itself as a political analysis site and can brag about how accurate and early the calling of states was done. We have to be at least is credible as some of the sites that get listed.
Please don't give the mods an aneurysm by suggest to attract outside people to discuss politics on TL :p

Frankly we should have done the rebrand it 10 years ago when SC2 was already a dead game
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22492 Posts
November 06 2020 16:57 GMT
#4434
On November 07 2020 01:40 dbRic1203 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2020 01:36 FlaShFTW wrote:
https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/1324751875112128513?s=20

Nevada lead widened. Jesus christ just call it. Or do I need to do it again?

Yes, please.
Also wtf is this about:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1324750555059728384

I m watching ABC and they have been saying the entire day, that in Pennsylvania there have been observers ALL THE TIME.
Might be talking about a state court that allowed ballots to be delivered for longer, so long as they were post marked on tuesday? Think they kicked something about that up to the Supreme Court.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10530 Posts
November 06 2020 16:57 GMT
#4435
On November 07 2020 01:53 ChristianS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2020 00:50 FlaShFTW wrote:
On November 07 2020 00:46 Nevuk wrote:
I don't think there's a need for Biden to childishly attack Trump. That's what we have late night comedians (and Obama) for. (Obama has been doing some pretty funny Trump roasts lately).

With that said, we can't let it end like Nixon where the president was pardoned of all crimes, got away with no actual punishment, and the US people never got the full story of what happened. That just paves the way for another Trump in the future.

There was an excellent piece in 2016 from some major college about how to deal with Trump supporters when he lost (they were way too hopeful), and it basically said to not talk about Trump with his supporters and just let them deal with it in their own way, as attacking them for voting for Trump would just make them dig in their heels and feel ashamed/embarassed . That's still good logic for me, but there's a difference between attacking his voters and his enablers.

Yes. We don't heal this country by mocking the other side. We heal by coming together, letting those people sit and reflect, and then when they're ready, we break bread and discuss politics like civilized people. This didn't happen in 2016 when Trump supporters were gleeful and full on mocking/making really hurtful messages to the liberals who lost. Myself included. Took me a couple years to realize that all that does is sow the divisiveness in this country. We get a couple days to celebrate as Biden supporters, but after that, we calm down, we let the electoral process do it's job, we celebrate again on Inauguration day, and then we move forward.

I don’t know what “healing the country” looks like in this environment. It’s not just that Republicans obviously have no interest in “coming together” (although I wonder how long we’ll keep seeing those “fuck your feelings” shirts in the wild). They’ve overridden basically every democratic norm as soon as it remotely impeded power acquisition. It far predates the last four years, they still have most of the spoils of those moves, and they’ve given no indication whatsoever of stopping.

If GA goes how we should expect, and they retain the Senate, it’s very unlikely they’ll let Biden appoint a cabinet. If any judge seats need to be filled, they’ll leave them vacant until either they get back the White House, or Dems get back the Senate. Meanwhile every Dem state legislature will appoint an independent commission for drawing district lines, while every Republican state legislature will find the mathematically optimal configuration for maximum Republican seats with minimum persuaded voters.

The only part of what I just said that seems likely to change is Dems deciding they have to gerrymander too to stay competitive. Like, if this had been a landslide maybe some Republicans would pretend some contrition and appeal to restoring norms now that it would hurt them, but with this outcome they can stay the course, and almost certainly take back the House in 2022 while vowing to make Biden a 1 term president.

What healing is to be done there?

With Trump out of the office, there is a lot more potential for Republicans to move back to the center a bit. Trump took them on a wide ride, I'm sure a lot of them only hopped onto the train to stay in good faith with the Republican electorate. There is healing, you just have to look for it. Dems shouldn't be using this line of thought of "well they won't want to heal so why should we?" Dems should be, and are, the party with the higher moral ground and standing. Now they have to act like it. You can call out Republicans when they refuse to budge, you can call them out when they make really outlandish statements, but I'm done with the whole fuck them we'll do it ourselves argument. Hyper-modern politics is a disease. It's a tumor that continues to grow. Either we do some radiation and chemo, or we let the tumor grow. We have to at least try.
Writer#1 KT and FlaSh Fanboy || Woo Jung Ho Never Forget || Teamliquid Political Decision Desk
TL+ Member
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
November 06 2020 16:57 GMT
#4436
Democrats owe Georgia to Abrams, no fucking doubt, they better not snub her.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-06 17:02:45
November 06 2020 16:58 GMT
#4437
On November 07 2020 01:41 HelpMeGetBetter wrote:
What the hell is up with Alaska? anybody know?

Alaska is huge with very few people in it. I assume the votes they did so far are the in-person votes and everything left would be mail votes they're trying to do at once.

Somewhere there in Alaska is some husky mail delivery service trying to do it's best.

we count all the in person votes, wait for all the mail votes
then cross check the names
to make sure no one double voted
before counting mail
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 06 2020 17:00 GMT
#4438
Biden has extended his lead in NV to 22k.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-06 17:07:05
November 06 2020 17:06 GMT
#4439
Nevada is clearly thinking along the lines of "okay, bets have completely stopped and it looks like Trump will be angrier at PA and GA, let's just finish this."

That or they really hate Fox and AP.

Or both!
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10530 Posts
November 06 2020 17:06 GMT
#4440
"I'm sorry, then what's your problem?"

Will be echoed through the halls of many court rooms in the near future. For anyone who missed it, this thread was just the funniest thing to read as a law student.

Writer#1 KT and FlaSh Fanboy || Woo Jung Ho Never Forget || Teamliquid Political Decision Desk
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