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Acrofales
Spain18400 Posts
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9958 Posts
He gets upset at EU people talking smack about America and fired off some counter accusations about Europe without sources so a mod asked him for source in order to get himself unbanned. | ||
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-_-Quails
Australia796 Posts
On November 06 2020 19:24 Acrofales wrote: Does anybody know why the NYT has not called Alaska for Trump? Alaska are taking a few days off before they start counting mail-ins. From what I've seen, no call will be made until they have started to count those. | ||
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CaptainKirby
Denmark47 Posts
Has calculations for projections of needed vote percentage and current percentage etc. | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France8153 Posts
On November 06 2020 19:24 Jockmcplop wrote: He gets upset at EU people talking smack about America and fired off some counter accusations about Europe without sources so a mod asked him for source in order to get himself unbanned. To be fair it was more about Corona itself and government measures than US bashing. Arguably, it's a hard time to be a libertarian. 538 gives Biden 4% probability to win Alaska. I think no one cares because we all know how it will play out. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46248 Posts
1. Biden to be officially declared the election winner; 2. Trump to NOT concede, because... Trump; 3. Trump supporters starting to rebel. Seriously, be careful this weekend. | ||
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KungKras
Sweden484 Posts
It's like he's a fictional character from a satire series. | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France8153 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27236 Posts
On November 06 2020 19:43 Biff The Understudy wrote: The more it goes, the more I can imagine that they will actually go after him when he is out. It's hard to imagine a former president in jail or in serious legal jeopardy, but I start to kind of think that they won't let him slip out. I imagine it will turn out out being a cunt to basically everyone isn’t a great long-term strategy. | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France8153 Posts
On November 06 2020 19:44 WombaT wrote: I imagine it will turn out out being a cunt to basically everyone isn’t a great long-term strategy. We have to give him that it's worked quite remarkably well until now. I mean. Depending how you define success, obviously. But the US as a country seem to have no problem promoting utter nastiness as a quality and rewarding those who display the most of it. | ||
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Slydie
1998 Posts
On November 06 2020 19:32 CaptainKirby wrote: Don't know if it has been posted before, but a good website to get an overview here: https://alex.github.io/nyt-2020-election-scraper/battleground-state-changes.html Has calculations for projections of needed vote percentage and current percentage etc. That page is very useful, thanks! This looks over. My bullet proof prediction: Trump gets North Carolina and Alaska Biden retains Nevada, Georgia and Arizona, and a Pennsylvania flip is inbound with incoming votes heavily trending Biden. The EC vote will not be that close in the end with 306 to 232. Edit: Wrong numbers and failed to post my ABC map.) | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22493 Posts
On November 06 2020 19:44 WombaT wrote: You say that but without Covid he may well have won.I imagine it will turn out out being a cunt to basically everyone isn’t a great long-term strategy. | ||
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pmh
1416 Posts
On November 06 2020 19:43 Biff The Understudy wrote: The more it goes, the more I can imagine that they will actually go after him when he is out. It's hard to imagine a former president in jail or in serious legal jeopardy, but I start to kind of think that they won't let him slip out. Its starting to become a greek tragedy. Trump would probably do best to try safe whats left. While no doubt enjoyable to see for some i think it would be better for everyone if this ends in a somewhat decent way. The country has to unite and move on,and that should include the trump supporters if you like it or not. This to not make the same mistake that led to trump in the first place. Biden has been great thus far,i really think he is the best guy for this time to lead the usa forward again. | ||
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KungKras
Sweden484 Posts
On November 06 2020 19:44 WombaT wrote: I imagine it will turn out out being a cunt to basically everyone isn’t a great long-term strategy. It's amazing that it worked at all. The 2016 election shattered many of my conforable-lie-illusions about human nature and made me a much more cynical person. | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France8153 Posts
On November 06 2020 19:53 Slydie wrote: That page is very useful, thanks! This looks over. My bullet proof prediction: Trump gets North Carolina and Alaska Biden retains Nevada, Georgia and Arizona, and a Pennsylvania flip is inbound with incoming votes heavily trending Biden. The EC vote will not be that close in the end with 298 to 240. ![[image loading]](https://imgur.com/nvKSHlg) Might be that actually, Biden will be remembered to have performed very well, both in the popular vote and the electoral college. The way I see it, the only problem facing democrats is that they need to convince folks in many rural / poorer / southern states that just don't vote for them; which is just punishing considering how the system is designed. I know that centrists think that the whole "socialist" message is a suicide and progressive think that the centrist way has failed and is the root of all problems. I think they are both right and that the dems need a synthesis: truly progressive policies package in a way that won't scare the voters they trail with off. | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France8153 Posts
On November 06 2020 19:59 pmh wrote: Its starting to become a greek tragedy. Trump would probably do best to try safe whats left. While no doubt enjoyable to see for some i think it would be better for everyone if this ends in a somewhat decent way. The country has to unite and move on,and that should include the trump supporters if you like it or not. This to not make the same mistake that led to trump in the first place. You are probably right. It's a fine balance though because that's also sending a message for future Trumps that they can shit all over everything with exactly zero personal consequence. There is no good option in my opinion. Israel jailing its prime minister at least sends a clear message to both its people and its political class. | ||
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KungKras
Sweden484 Posts
On November 06 2020 20:01 Biff The Understudy wrote: Might be that actually, Biden will be remembered to have performed very well, both in the popular vote and the electoral college. The way I see it, the only problem facing democrats is that they need to convince folks in many rural / poorer / southern states that just don't vote for them; which is just punishing considering how the system is designed. I know that centrists think that the whole "socialist" message is a suicide and progressive think that the centrist way has failed and is the root of all problems. I think they are both right and that the dems need a synthesis: truly progressive policies package in a way that won't scare the voters they trail with off. I hope that the longer time goes on since the cold war ended, "socialism" will lose its boogeyman status. I mean there isn't a big bad soviet union around to be paranoid about anymore. | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France8153 Posts
On November 06 2020 20:04 KungKras wrote: I hope that the longer time goes on since the cold war ended, "socialism" will lose its boogeyman status. I mean there isn't a big bad soviet union around to be paranoid about anymore. Or just use a better word. Sanders is muuuuch more a social democrat than a socialist for example. | ||
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KungKras
Sweden484 Posts
On November 06 2020 20:05 Biff The Understudy wrote: Or just use a better word. Sanders is muuuuch more a social democrat than a socialist for example. I'm still perplexed why Sanders didn't call himself a social democrat. I mean out of all the terms he could have used, it's the one that's most positively charged, and the one with the most success stories around the world under its banner. | ||
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8916 Posts
On November 06 2020 19:43 Biff The Understudy wrote: The more it goes, the more I can imagine that they will actually go after him when he is out. It's hard to imagine a former president in jail or in serious legal jeopardy, but I start to kind of think that they won't let him slip out. id like to introduce you to the former korean presidents lee myung bak and park geun hye. they are also our most recent presidents, both serving jail time for various crimes. honestly america has a lot to learn from korea when it comes to democracy. peaceful protesting was very effective in korea, impeachment went well and we have absolutely no problems with convicting former presidents. | ||
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