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TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-04 21:30:17
November 04 2020 21:28 GMT
#2341
The PA margin has narrowed to 313K votes with 992,007 outstanding. Biden no longer needs 72.5-27.5, he now just needs 2:1. That means he's outperforming what he needs.

I think he might carry PA. Likely not >1%, but he still might carry it.
Deleted User 26513
Profile Joined February 2007
2376 Posts
November 04 2020 21:29 GMT
#2342
On November 05 2020 06:27 FlaShFTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2020 06:26 Pr0wler wrote:
On November 05 2020 06:23 FlaShFTW wrote:
On November 05 2020 06:22 Pr0wler wrote:
There is a difference between, "I think that nothing will happen." , "Its not likely to happen." and "It actually happened." The votes are not counted, so the factual truth is that the election is still not decided.

My dude you just tried to imply a Trump recount in Wisconsin is gonna flip 20k votes.

I'm trying to imply that facts actually matter.
Does Biden actually have 270 on the board ? No. So he called a win prematurely.

holy shit youre actually just this dense. He never called a confirmed victory. He said the path looks like we'll have the 270 to win. Go rewatch it and troll somewhere else, this is got old fast.

He said "We have 270, but we wont declare win." Ok. At the same time Trump said "As far as I'm concerned I'm winning" and the media had a meltdown. One is opinion another is stating a false fact... I will leave it to you to decide which one is what.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 04 2020 21:29 GMT
#2343
So Biden is at 264, all he needs now is to hold on to the lead in Nevada and that seals it.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
StasisField
Profile Joined August 2013
United States1086 Posts
November 04 2020 21:30 GMT
#2344
On November 05 2020 06:28 TheTenthDoc wrote:
The PA margin has narrowed to 313K votes with 992,007 outstanding. Biden no longer needs 72.5-27.5, he now just needs 2:1. That means he's outperforming what he needs.

I think he might carry it. Likely not >1%, but he still might carry it.

Yeah, it's starting to look more and more likely.
What do you mean Immortals can't shoot up?
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10402 Posts
November 04 2020 21:30 GMT
#2345
On November 05 2020 06:28 kidcrash wrote:
Do the democrats have a realistic path to a senate majority? What happens with the Georgia run offs?

Not unless the remaining Georgia vote is super Democrat. Even if Dems win the run off, they'll only have 49.
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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10402 Posts
November 04 2020 21:31 GMT
#2346
On November 05 2020 06:28 TheTenthDoc wrote:
The PA margin has narrowed to 313K votes with 992,007 outstanding. Biden no longer needs 72.5-27.5, he now just needs 2:1. That means he's outperforming what he needs.

I think he might carry PA. Likely not >1%, but he still might carry it.

Nah I think he carries by a couple points now. 2-3 probably. He's done really well with these ballots coming in.
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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18857 Posts
November 04 2020 21:31 GMT
#2347
On November 05 2020 06:28 kidcrash wrote:
Do the democrats have a realistic path to a senate majority? What happens with the Georgia run offs?

The best they can do is get to 49 with a Georgia runoff win, I think 48 with Peters squeaking by in Michigan is more likely
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
November 04 2020 21:32 GMT
#2348
On November 05 2020 06:29 Pr0wler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2020 06:27 FlaShFTW wrote:
On November 05 2020 06:26 Pr0wler wrote:
On November 05 2020 06:23 FlaShFTW wrote:
On November 05 2020 06:22 Pr0wler wrote:
There is a difference between, "I think that nothing will happen." , "Its not likely to happen." and "It actually happened." The votes are not counted, so the factual truth is that the election is still not decided.

My dude you just tried to imply a Trump recount in Wisconsin is gonna flip 20k votes.

I'm trying to imply that facts actually matter.
Does Biden actually have 270 on the board ? No. So he called a win prematurely.

holy shit youre actually just this dense. He never called a confirmed victory. He said the path looks like we'll have the 270 to win. Go rewatch it and troll somewhere else, this is got old fast.

He said "We have 270, but we wont declare win." Ok. At the same time Trump said "As far as I'm concerned I'm winning" and the media had a meltdown. One is opinion another is stating a false fact... I will leave it to you to decide which one is what.

Nope, literally said he won as far as he was concerned.
And before the mail in stuff was properly touched.
Add to that trumps demand to stop counting and only a deaf and blind person could not tell the difference between the statements
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TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
November 04 2020 21:32 GMT
#2349
On November 05 2020 06:31 FlaShFTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2020 06:28 TheTenthDoc wrote:
The PA margin has narrowed to 313K votes with 992,007 outstanding. Biden no longer needs 72.5-27.5, he now just needs 2:1. That means he's outperforming what he needs.

I think he might carry PA. Likely not >1%, but he still might carry it.

Nah I think he carries by a couple points now. 2-3 probably. He's done really well with these ballots coming in.


Yeah in hindsight I shouldn't have said likely not >1% XD I haven't dived nearly deep enough to rule that out.
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12463 Posts
November 04 2020 21:33 GMT
#2350
On November 05 2020 06:29 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
So Biden is at 264, all he needs now is to hold on to the lead in Nevada and that seals it.


The 264 includes Arizona which is not entirely over yet.

But yes he is a pretty big favourite.
No will to live, no wish to die
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10402 Posts
November 04 2020 21:34 GMT
#2351
Some red county (not sure which) in Georgia just got updated, Biden just closed the lead from 80k to 78k. 2k margin is small, but shows promise for the rest of the outstanding votes left to be counted.
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Shingi11
Profile Joined May 2016
290 Posts
November 04 2020 21:34 GMT
#2352
Trump just has no legal leg to stand on. These are not absentee or late votes. These are all votes that where casted by election day in some shape or form. He is going to have to find a real bang up judge that will not let normal votes not count out maybe a handful of outliers.
Deleted User 26513
Profile Joined February 2007
2376 Posts
November 04 2020 21:34 GMT
#2353
On November 05 2020 06:32 Artisreal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2020 06:29 Pr0wler wrote:
On November 05 2020 06:27 FlaShFTW wrote:
On November 05 2020 06:26 Pr0wler wrote:
On November 05 2020 06:23 FlaShFTW wrote:
On November 05 2020 06:22 Pr0wler wrote:
There is a difference between, "I think that nothing will happen." , "Its not likely to happen." and "It actually happened." The votes are not counted, so the factual truth is that the election is still not decided.

My dude you just tried to imply a Trump recount in Wisconsin is gonna flip 20k votes.

I'm trying to imply that facts actually matter.
Does Biden actually have 270 on the board ? No. So he called a win prematurely.

holy shit youre actually just this dense. He never called a confirmed victory. He said the path looks like we'll have the 270 to win. Go rewatch it and troll somewhere else, this is got old fast.

He said "We have 270, but we wont declare win." Ok. At the same time Trump said "As far as I'm concerned I'm winning" and the media had a meltdown. One is opinion another is stating a false fact... I will leave it to you to decide which one is what.

Nope, literally said he won as far as he was concerned.
And before the mail in stuff was properly touched.
Add to that trumps demand to stop counting and only a deaf and blind person could not tell the difference between the statements

Shoul I link the video to you again ?
Trump said word for word : "We think that voting should stop.". Completely different from "stop the counting". Can you stop building your narative ? Your guy is already likely to win, no need to lie anymore.
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10402 Posts
November 04 2020 21:36 GMT
#2354
In other news, Kanye finally conceded. https://twitter.com/kanyewest/status/1323914087340781569?s=20
Writer#1 KT and FlaSh Fanboy || Woo Jung Ho Never Forget || Teamliquid Political Decision Desk
TL+ Member
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-04 21:36:51
November 04 2020 21:36 GMT
#2355
On November 05 2020 06:34 Pr0wler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2020 06:32 Artisreal wrote:
On November 05 2020 06:29 Pr0wler wrote:
On November 05 2020 06:27 FlaShFTW wrote:
On November 05 2020 06:26 Pr0wler wrote:
On November 05 2020 06:23 FlaShFTW wrote:
On November 05 2020 06:22 Pr0wler wrote:
There is a difference between, "I think that nothing will happen." , "Its not likely to happen." and "It actually happened." The votes are not counted, so the factual truth is that the election is still not decided.

My dude you just tried to imply a Trump recount in Wisconsin is gonna flip 20k votes.

I'm trying to imply that facts actually matter.
Does Biden actually have 270 on the board ? No. So he called a win prematurely.

holy shit youre actually just this dense. He never called a confirmed victory. He said the path looks like we'll have the 270 to win. Go rewatch it and troll somewhere else, this is got old fast.

He said "We have 270, but we wont declare win." Ok. At the same time Trump said "As far as I'm concerned I'm winning" and the media had a meltdown. One is opinion another is stating a false fact... I will leave it to you to decide which one is what.

Nope, literally said he won as far as he was concerned.
And before the mail in stuff was properly touched.
Add to that trumps demand to stop counting and only a deaf and blind person could not tell the difference between the statements

Shoul I link the video to you again ?
Trump said word for word : "We think that voting should stop.". Completely different from "stop the counting". Can you stop building your narative ? Your guy is already likely to win, no need to lie anymore.


Why would anyone say "we think the voting should stop" when the voting has already stopped? There was no voting happening at that time anywhere in the country. Even mail-ins in NC/potential mail-ins in PA had already been postmarked.

Trump's children are literally declaring victory in PA with a million outstanding ballots, and his supporters are telling people to stop the vote. Do you think this is not what he wants?
shawster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada2485 Posts
November 04 2020 21:37 GMT
#2356
Nate Silver Update https://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/2020-election-results-coverage/ :

NC : Likely Trump
Georgia : Lean Biden/Tossup
Pennsylvania : Lean Biden
Arizona : Likely Biden (he claims this should probably have not been called)
Nevada : Likely Biden
Michigan : Likely Biden

{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-04 21:38:57
November 04 2020 21:38 GMT
#2357
So by all accounts the DSA member Rashida Tlaib, who the DNC tried to oust, helped deliver much needed votes in Detroit which pushed Biden over the edge. And she won reelection as well.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
November 04 2020 21:38 GMT
#2358
These PA numbers don't even include the ballots postmarked by the election. The polls could end up being dead-on there, crazy...
pmh
Profile Joined March 2016
1416 Posts
November 04 2020 21:39 GMT
#2359
On November 05 2020 06:28 JimmiC wrote:
Covid did not cost Trump the election. But his handling of Covid likely did. How could have he done it worse?

Show nested quote +
On November 05 2020 06:11 farvacola wrote:
McConnell has already signaled that the Senate will take up stimulus first thing it reconvenes next week, so if Trump loses and Republicans at large stop fellating him, there's good odds that Congress can force a stimulus through over Trump's veto. It's not a slam dunk by any means, but Trump lame ducking the shit out of everything may not win the day.


I think things will get done, once it is official Reps are going to start separating themselves from him and start worrying about the next election. Some even did in the days leading up. Trump is likely only going to get wackier and more extreme which will only push those with questions further away.


Thats not entirely fair. There was no good way to handle it,its a lose lose event.
Though there are some governments in europe who did pretty much the same as the usa and who have held on to their popularity or even increased it. Trumps strongest point was the economy and the pandemic did counter that,the economic damage would have been there no matter how he did handle it.

Deleted User 26513
Profile Joined February 2007
2376 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-04 21:41:37
November 04 2020 21:40 GMT
#2360
On November 05 2020 06:36 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2020 06:34 Pr0wler wrote:
On November 05 2020 06:32 Artisreal wrote:
On November 05 2020 06:29 Pr0wler wrote:
On November 05 2020 06:27 FlaShFTW wrote:
On November 05 2020 06:26 Pr0wler wrote:
On November 05 2020 06:23 FlaShFTW wrote:
On November 05 2020 06:22 Pr0wler wrote:
There is a difference between, "I think that nothing will happen." , "Its not likely to happen." and "It actually happened." The votes are not counted, so the factual truth is that the election is still not decided.

My dude you just tried to imply a Trump recount in Wisconsin is gonna flip 20k votes.

I'm trying to imply that facts actually matter.
Does Biden actually have 270 on the board ? No. So he called a win prematurely.

holy shit youre actually just this dense. He never called a confirmed victory. He said the path looks like we'll have the 270 to win. Go rewatch it and troll somewhere else, this is got old fast.

He said "We have 270, but we wont declare win." Ok. At the same time Trump said "As far as I'm concerned I'm winning" and the media had a meltdown. One is opinion another is stating a false fact... I will leave it to you to decide which one is what.

Nope, literally said he won as far as he was concerned.
And before the mail in stuff was properly touched.
Add to that trumps demand to stop counting and only a deaf and blind person could not tell the difference between the statements

Shoul I link the video to you again ?
Trump said word for word : "We think that voting should stop.". Completely different from "stop the counting". Can you stop building your narative ? Your guy is already likely to win, no need to lie anymore.

You can send him email and ask him. I'm not Trump so I can't answer you. That's not an excuse to forge lies, though.
Why would anyone say "we think the voting should stop" when the voting has already stopped? There was no voting happening at that time anywhere in the country. Even mail-ins in NC/potential mail-ins in PA had already been postmarked.

Trump's children are literally declaring victory in PA with a million outstanding ballots, and his supporters are telling people to stop the vote. Do you think this is not what he wants?

Email him and ask him. How should I know why he says things. Not an excuse to forge lies, though.
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