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TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10047 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-04 21:04:55
November 04 2020 21:02 GMT
#2281
All this talk over PA that probably won't matter because Biden is gonna win WI/MI/NV.. Georgia would be a bonus (which Biden has an edge in).
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brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9642 Posts
November 04 2020 21:02 GMT
#2282
i did not see Georgia as being a state whose vote counted in this election. If it were anyone but Trump i’d say this makes for somewhat of a fun election. in reality it’s just kind of scary, but a normal GOP choice here would make it more interesting than frightening.
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10532 Posts
November 04 2020 21:03 GMT
#2283
On November 05 2020 06:02 TT1 wrote:
All this talk over PA that probably won't matter because Biden is gonna win WI/MI/NV..

It does matter. If Arizona was pre-maturely called like some people are anticipating, Biden is still needing to grind out a win in Arizona, GA, or PA (NC is a long shot)
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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18866 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-04 21:05:51
November 04 2020 21:04 GMT
#2284
On November 05 2020 06:02 TT1 wrote:
All this talk over PA that probably won't matter because Biden is gonna win WI/MI/NV..

At this point, Biden fans want every inch available to help shore things up as the lawsuits start to hit. So far, there's been nothing for the Trump campaign to point to other than results they don't like, and if margins are thicker, convincing judges to slow everything down so a closer look can be had becomes that much harder.

On November 05 2020 05:19 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2020 04:58 farvacola wrote:
The Trump Campaign is starting to flood supporters with "DEFEND DEMOCRACY!" emails

Which is weird because he isn't claiming that he won the popular vote.

tsk tsk KwarK, it's the feeling of "DEMOCRACY" that matters, not what democracy actually entails
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9642 Posts
November 04 2020 21:04 GMT
#2285
that and there’s a 90k vote difference in all three of those states combined. that’s not a very significant margin.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
November 04 2020 21:06 GMT
#2286
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TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-04 21:07:48
November 04 2020 21:06 GMT
#2287
On November 05 2020 06:04 farvacola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2020 06:02 TT1 wrote:
All this talk over PA that probably won't matter because Biden is gonna win WI/MI/NV..

At this point, Biden fans want every inch available to help shore things up as the lawsuits start to hit. So far, there's been nothing for the Trump campaign to point to other than results they don't like, and if margins are thicker, convincing judges to slow everything down so a closer look can be had becomes that much harder.

Show nested quote +
On November 05 2020 05:19 KwarK wrote:
On November 05 2020 04:58 farvacola wrote:
The Trump Campaign is starting to flood supporters with "DEFEND DEMOCRACY!" emails

Which is weird because he isn't claiming that he won the popular vote.

tsk tsk KwarK, it's the feeling of "DEMOCRACY" that matters, not what democracy actually entails



Plus DEFEND MY RULE just doesn't have the same ring to it.

Edit: Michigan getting better for Biden by the second. I expect it to be called soon.
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10532 Posts
November 04 2020 21:07 GMT
#2288
PA has had anotehr small batch reported: Trump lead down to 340k
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StasisField
Profile Joined August 2013
United States1086 Posts
November 04 2020 21:07 GMT
#2289
On November 05 2020 05:54 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2020 05:42 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Some various thoughts I have about the election so far. These will probably will be wrong as more information comes in or smarter people correct me, but based on what I'm seeing...

-COVID wasn't as big of an issue as Democrats projected. Re-opening economy, social and moral issues like abortion, fears about social unrest and rioting, the strength of Trump support and the spectre of socialism on Democrats maybe surpassed concerns about the pandemic.
-Democrats continue to face a critical rural vote problem. They need to make inroads outside of urban centres and suburban areas if they want safer victories.
-Florida and Ohio don't appear to be promising swing states for Democrats anymore. They're getting distinctly Trumpier and I don't see that changing anytime soon.
-The Sun Belt pivot from Democrats has to succeed because anointing a candidate who was sold on having the best bona fides with the Rust Belt just barely pulled it off it seems.


I dunno. I think COVID was huge. Without it I don't think Democrats carry Wisconsin or Michigan, and they're both virtual locks at this point (especially if Trump stops the Michigan count LOL).

Yeah I think Trump easily wins 2020 if not for covid. Defeating an incumbent president is incredibly rare in the US. Biden had the perfect storm of events to help him win and he's still barely looking like he will.
What do you mean Immortals can't shoot up?
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10047 Posts
November 04 2020 21:08 GMT
#2290
In any case, this is the worst election outcome for a stimulus when we're going into fall/winter with rising COVID cases. Next few months are gonna be bumpy, Trump is gonna sandbag stimulus talks.
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
November 04 2020 21:08 GMT
#2291
Are all the new Trump voters going to stay republican if they go with a non Trump?


No. My guess is, they will go with whoever libertarian is running. Probably not to the point where it's a realistic choice, but i'd bet we'll see a surge there.
On track to MA1950A.
StasisField
Profile Joined August 2013
United States1086 Posts
November 04 2020 21:10 GMT
#2292
On November 05 2020 06:08 TT1 wrote:
In any case, this is the worst election outcome for a stimulus when we're going into fall/winter with rising COVID cases. Next few months are gonna be bumpy, Trump is gonna sandbag stimulus talks.

And Mitch McConnell will make sure a stimulus bill passed in the house never sees the light of day in the Senate.
What do you mean Immortals can't shoot up?
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10532 Posts
November 04 2020 21:10 GMT
#2293
On November 05 2020 06:07 StasisField wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2020 05:54 TheTenthDoc wrote:
On November 05 2020 05:42 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Some various thoughts I have about the election so far. These will probably will be wrong as more information comes in or smarter people correct me, but based on what I'm seeing...

-COVID wasn't as big of an issue as Democrats projected. Re-opening economy, social and moral issues like abortion, fears about social unrest and rioting, the strength of Trump support and the spectre of socialism on Democrats maybe surpassed concerns about the pandemic.
-Democrats continue to face a critical rural vote problem. They need to make inroads outside of urban centres and suburban areas if they want safer victories.
-Florida and Ohio don't appear to be promising swing states for Democrats anymore. They're getting distinctly Trumpier and I don't see that changing anytime soon.
-The Sun Belt pivot from Democrats has to succeed because anointing a candidate who was sold on having the best bona fides with the Rust Belt just barely pulled it off it seems.


I dunno. I think COVID was huge. Without it I don't think Democrats carry Wisconsin or Michigan, and they're both virtual locks at this point (especially if Trump stops the Michigan count LOL).

Yeah I think Trump easily wins 2020 if not for covid. Defeating an incumbent president is incredibly rare in the US. Biden had the perfect storm of events to help him win and he's still barely looking like he will.

Yep I agree. If Trump had a strong economy, nothing was going really wrong for him, Supreme Court was insane for him this term, he would've won handily. Probably mightve even picked up Nevada.
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TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
November 04 2020 21:10 GMT
#2294
On November 05 2020 06:08 TT1 wrote:
In any case, this is the worst election outcome for a stimulus when we're going into fall/winter with rising COVID cases. Next few months are gonna be bumpy, Trump is gonna sandbag stimulus talks.


I'm not sure a stimulus would have come even with a Trump win. It's not like he was doing anything to help Pelosi and McConnell come to an agreement.
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10047 Posts
November 04 2020 21:11 GMT
#2295
On November 05 2020 06:10 StasisField wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2020 06:08 TT1 wrote:
In any case, this is the worst election outcome for a stimulus when we're going into fall/winter with rising COVID cases. Next few months are gonna be bumpy, Trump is gonna sandbag stimulus talks.

And Mitch McConnell will make sure a stimulus bill passed in the house never sees the light of day in the Senate.


they'll ultimately come to an agreement but it'll be in Jan/Feb
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18866 Posts
November 04 2020 21:11 GMT
#2296
McConnell has already signaled that the Senate will take up stimulus first thing it reconvenes next week, so if Trump loses and Republicans at large stop fellating him, there's good odds that Congress can force a stimulus through over Trump's veto. It's not a slam dunk by any means, but Trump lame ducking the shit out of everything may not win the day.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
November 04 2020 21:11 GMT
#2297
I dunno about yal, but if there's one good thing about this election process is that I've been receiving great memes all day.
Bora Pain minha porra!
pmh
Profile Joined March 2016
1416 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-04 21:15:08
November 04 2020 21:12 GMT
#2298
Biden calling it,more or less. A unifying message overall.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 04 2020 21:12 GMT
#2299
Biden speaking.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18723 Posts
November 04 2020 21:12 GMT
#2300
On November 05 2020 06:10 FlaShFTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2020 06:07 StasisField wrote:
On November 05 2020 05:54 TheTenthDoc wrote:
On November 05 2020 05:42 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Some various thoughts I have about the election so far. These will probably will be wrong as more information comes in or smarter people correct me, but based on what I'm seeing...

-COVID wasn't as big of an issue as Democrats projected. Re-opening economy, social and moral issues like abortion, fears about social unrest and rioting, the strength of Trump support and the spectre of socialism on Democrats maybe surpassed concerns about the pandemic.
-Democrats continue to face a critical rural vote problem. They need to make inroads outside of urban centres and suburban areas if they want safer victories.
-Florida and Ohio don't appear to be promising swing states for Democrats anymore. They're getting distinctly Trumpier and I don't see that changing anytime soon.
-The Sun Belt pivot from Democrats has to succeed because anointing a candidate who was sold on having the best bona fides with the Rust Belt just barely pulled it off it seems.


I dunno. I think COVID was huge. Without it I don't think Democrats carry Wisconsin or Michigan, and they're both virtual locks at this point (especially if Trump stops the Michigan count LOL).

Yeah I think Trump easily wins 2020 if not for covid. Defeating an incumbent president is incredibly rare in the US. Biden had the perfect storm of events to help him win and he's still barely looking like he will.

Yep I agree. If Trump had a strong economy, nothing was going really wrong for him, Supreme Court was insane for him this term, he would've won handily. Probably mightve even picked up Nevada.


Whats with this myth that covid lost trump the election? Covid has been horrible all over the world. It's not just Trump who has failed against it and in Europe the ruling parties gained votes in elections during covid
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