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Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
April 04 2022 19:30 GMT
#12041
Here in São Paulo most restrictions are gone (pretty much every one except on public transportation). Some people are still wearing masks in general, but it's phasing out (I'd guess around 1/3-1/2 people in general still wearing masks). I'm just glad I can go back to exercising without one.
Bora Pain minha porra!
Hollow
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Canada2180 Posts
April 04 2022 19:40 GMT
#12042
I went to see my first concert in the last two years (the band Low), and I was happy to see that most people wore their masks except those who were drinking. Being all close to each other like this, it's a no brainer to me, even if I don't like wearing them. I'd rather be able to keep going to shows but there is already a new wave beginning in Montreal so god knows for how long that'll last.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7021 Posts
April 05 2022 09:12 GMT
#12043
On April 05 2022 01:02 BlackJack wrote:
@Harris1st, I think there are probably a lot of people that would benefit from some kind of therapy or counselling from dealing with the traumas of the pandemic. I mean that in a completely non-patronizing way. Although I'm not sure if you're legitimately afraid to go grocery shopping because someone might breathe on you or if you were just making some off-the-cuff comment about mask wearing.


The second one. Also I hate people and crowds. For example have you seen how many people (men and women btw) don't wash their hands after beeing on the toilet?

It was nice to have some personal space while grocery shopping/ shopping and people coughing/ sneezing in their masks instead of their hands/ randomly all over the place.
Haven't been sick for over 2,5 years now. Not even a mild cold.
Just saying it wasn't all bad the last two years.
In all fairness, I only had to wear a mask for about 4 hours each day. So maybe that's why
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28727 Posts
April 05 2022 11:41 GMT
#12044
The pandemic has also probably been easier on those who hate people and crowds than for those who love people and being part of a crowd.
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Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11691 Posts
April 05 2022 12:45 GMT
#12045
On April 05 2022 20:41 Liquid`Drone wrote:
The pandemic has also probably been easier on those who hate people and crowds than for those who love people and being part of a crowd.


Yeah, but i feel a bit of satisfaction due to that. Generally, life is all about extroverted people, and them trying to force introverted people into being part of all their extroverted shit, while not comprehending in the slightest that all the extroverted stuff they like is horror to introverted people.

Seeing the shoe turned around, and all those extroverted people being forced to live like an introvert for a short while is kind of satisfying, even if i know that it is a bit dickish to feel like that.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10825 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-04-05 14:24:12
April 05 2022 14:23 GMT
#12046
I'm no introvert, at least not a "hard" one, I like to go out but can also easily stay home alone for several days whiteout issues. Gaming is by far my biggest hobby.

Sometimes when i heard people talk about how much they hate staying at home i tought: "I trained my whole life for this." .
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7021 Posts
April 05 2022 14:54 GMT
#12047
On April 05 2022 23:23 Velr wrote:
I'm no introvert, at least not a "hard" one, I like to go out but can also easily stay home alone for several days whiteout issues. Gaming is by far my biggest hobby.

Sometimes when i heard people talk about how much they hate staying at home i tought: "I trained my whole life for this." .


Hahaha yes or when someone says they will get bored staying at home I'm like dude my steam pile of shame is big enough for 10+ years staying at home without ever getting bored.
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
April 05 2022 16:02 GMT
#12048
There’s probably a lot of people that don’t want to “quit the pandemic” because they now have the perfect excuse for why they have to do something they’ve always wanted to do, which is to sit at home on the computer all day. It also probably gives them a sense of selflessness and superiority over the people that do go out and spread COVID. I think they conveniently overlook the fact that they aren’t more selfless because they aren’t sacrificing much by doing exactly what they wanted to do in the first place.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
April 05 2022 16:30 GMT
#12049
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Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14060 Posts
April 05 2022 16:40 GMT
#12050
Holy projecting imaginary enemies Batman.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26224 Posts
April 05 2022 17:24 GMT
#12051
To clarify I was being sarcastic/facetious but not at Slydie

More the never-ending circle of ‘oh look things weren’t bad after all we didn’t need restrictions’ when the restrictions themselves kept things in check.

Eventually things will settle to such a degree people end up being correct about relaxation, which they’re happy to rub in one’s face and happily ignore the giant stretches of time they were utterly wrong.

As per masks, they’re not ideal, I don’t find them particularly uncomfortable.

I actively like them in retail as I’d rather just get on with my job, whereas in social environments well, I’m there to socialise so they’re more of a pain.

I do think a good point was made earlier about some empathy for the extroverted out there, what’s easy to one person can be a mountain for another, and relative social isolation was a ton harder on certain types of folks than others.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26224 Posts
April 05 2022 17:28 GMT
#12052
On April 06 2022 01:02 BlackJack wrote:
There’s probably a lot of people that don’t want to “quit the pandemic” because they now have the perfect excuse for why they have to do something they’ve always wanted to do, which is to sit at home on the computer all day. It also probably gives them a sense of selflessness and superiority over the people that do go out and spread COVID. I think they conveniently overlook the fact that they aren’t more selfless because they aren’t sacrificing much by doing exactly what they wanted to do in the first place.

I mean plenty of folks I know this rings somewhat true, to varying degrees of course.

Granted the flip side is the working environment is something that works fine, and being dragged to the office and (especially) commuting again just for the sake of it seems needless to me.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-04-05 18:04:16
April 05 2022 18:03 GMT
#12053
On April 06 2022 02:28 WombaT wrote:
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On April 06 2022 01:02 BlackJack wrote:
There’s probably a lot of people that don’t want to “quit the pandemic” because they now have the perfect excuse for why they have to do something they’ve always wanted to do, which is to sit at home on the computer all day. It also probably gives them a sense of selflessness and superiority over the people that do go out and spread COVID. I think they conveniently overlook the fact that they aren’t more selfless because they aren’t sacrificing much by doing exactly what they wanted to do in the first place.

I mean plenty of folks I know this rings somewhat true, to varying degrees of course.

Granted the flip side is the working environment is something that works fine, and being dragged to the office and (especially) commuting again just for the sake of it seems needless to me.


That is the impression I get when I visit Reddit anyway. Until recently anyone would be downvoted to oblivion for even suggesting they would like to go out and see a movie or attend an event. I don't think it's a stretch to assume the people doing the downvoting are mostly people that are content with being at home browsing Reddit in the first place. I don't have a problem with the concept of not going out and spreading COVID being better for society if one is privileged enough to do that. I have a problem when an introvert pretends they are making an equal sacrifice as an extrovert because the action of staying home is the same for the both of them.
castleeMg
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Canada779 Posts
April 05 2022 18:14 GMT
#12054
In that regard I can see why this entire pandemic has been a dream for JimmiC, he now has a good reason (in his mind at least) to spend 15 hours a day on TL and who knows which other forums looking for arguments with people while being a pseudo intellectual despite grammatical and spelling errors in nearly every post

Sorry in advanced mods

User was warned for this post.
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-04-05 19:47:05
April 05 2022 18:22 GMT
#12055
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26224 Posts
April 05 2022 22:45 GMT
#12056
On April 06 2022 03:03 BlackJack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2022 02:28 WombaT wrote:
On April 06 2022 01:02 BlackJack wrote:
There’s probably a lot of people that don’t want to “quit the pandemic” because they now have the perfect excuse for why they have to do something they’ve always wanted to do, which is to sit at home on the computer all day. It also probably gives them a sense of selflessness and superiority over the people that do go out and spread COVID. I think they conveniently overlook the fact that they aren’t more selfless because they aren’t sacrificing much by doing exactly what they wanted to do in the first place.

I mean plenty of folks I know this rings somewhat true, to varying degrees of course.

Granted the flip side is the working environment is something that works fine, and being dragged to the office and (especially) commuting again just for the sake of it seems needless to me.


That is the impression I get when I visit Reddit anyway. Until recently anyone would be downvoted to oblivion for even suggesting they would like to go out and see a movie or attend an event. I don't think it's a stretch to assume the people doing the downvoting are mostly people that are content with being at home browsing Reddit in the first place. I don't have a problem with the concept of not going out and spreading COVID being better for society if one is privileged enough to do that. I have a problem when an introvert pretends they are making an equal sacrifice as an extrovert because the action of staying home is the same for the both of them.

Aye I think this is 100% fair. As with many things there’s that race towards purity tests, and as you say the naturally introverted aren’t making much of a sacrifice with some of the restrictions we’ve seen in the last while.

I was fine to do my bit, but it was very difficult at times. The lessening of restrictions has absolutely been a relief to me and my mental health for sure.

'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26224 Posts
April 05 2022 22:48 GMT
#12057
On April 06 2022 03:14 castleeMg wrote:
In that regard I can see why this entire pandemic has been a dream for JimmiC, he now has a good reason (in his mind at least) to spend 15 hours a day on TL and who knows which other forums looking for arguments with people while being a pseudo intellectual despite grammatical and spelling errors in nearly every post

Sorry in advanced mods

Kinda grossly unfair to just throw that out as opposed to engaging with the posts of his that you disagree with. He doesn’t present as a pseudo-intellectual anyway they’re just reasonable structured, semi-coherent posts he’s not dumping in references to technical jargon or highfalutin concepts, as is the staple of a pseudo-intellectual (I should know)

And if anyone spent 15 hours a day on TL this last period it’s yours truly.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
April 08 2022 02:24 GMT
#12058
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gujkel
Profile Joined April 2022
United States3 Posts
April 15 2022 20:05 GMT
#12059
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Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6219 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-04-21 21:08:19
April 21 2022 21:07 GMT
#12060
https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/04/combo-covid-booster-is-the-way-to-go-this-fall-moderna-data-suggests/

The fresh data released by Moderna looked at neutralizing antibody levels in around 300 people who received a 50-microgram dose of the beta/ancestral combo vaccine (dubbed mRNA-1273.211). Antibody levels in that group were compared with those from around 150 people who received the current 50-microgram booster (mRNA-1273) that targets the ancestral version of the virus. Compared with the current booster, the beta/ancestral combo shot generated higher levels of neutralizing antibodies against the ancestral virus as well as the beta, omicron, and delta variants. In the case of omicron, the combo shot generated neutralizing antibody levels twice as high as the current shot (when comparing geometric mean titres). That two-fold advantage was maintained after six months, as well.


Preliminary data of course, but looks like this fall, Moderna's going with a Bivalent booster. In general, multivalents seem to offer broader protection, including vs Omicron.

I think I'll hold off on getting a 4th shot until a broad, multivalent vaccine is available, or a vaccine booster that boosts efficacy against Omicron. I've had 3 shots, and caught Omicron, so I'm not in a hurry to boost the protection that I currently have.

Edit:: Thinking about it, a combo bivalent covid, trivalent flu vaccine would be ideal. Get everything out of the way in one go.
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