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Sermokala
United States14146 Posts
On February 15 2022 05:15 BlackJack wrote: Don't forget, they're not just terrorists. They are also racists and misogynists. I mean the confederate, nazi, trump flags and the directed harassment against minorities and women are well documented but they're wearing those badges pretty pridefully. Useing their children as human shields for their terrorism is a particularly shitty act by them. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27015 Posts
On February 15 2022 05:15 BlackJack wrote: Don't forget, they're not just terrorists. They are also racists and misogynists. Hey you said it not me. Some, I assume are good people. Facetiousness aside I’m sure that is the case with many, there does seem a rather unsavoury element with some, but hey, same with most protests. | ||
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BlackJack
United States10574 Posts
On February 15 2022 07:57 Sermokala wrote: I mean the confederate, nazi, trump flags and the directed harassment against minorities and women are well documented but they're wearing those badges pretty pridefully. Useing their children as human shields for their terrorism is a particularly shitty act by them. There's a guy on youtube that goes around every day and films at the protests. Just livestream. Hours on end. His channel is called Ottawalks. For example: Every video has thousands of protestors and thousands of flags. Can you point out all these well-documented nazi and confederate flags for me? No need to screenshot, just write the timestamp and I will look for it. Feel free to look at other videos on that person's channel too. I skimmed through and I didn't see any. And I don't mean "I hardly saw any" I mean I literally saw none. Zero. But I'm sure you can find a few dozen examples for me, since as you said, they are "wearing these badges pridefully." It's amazing how easily people can be manipulated into believing things by the mainstream media. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Sermokala
United States14146 Posts
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RKC
2848 Posts
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BlackJack
United States10574 Posts
On February 15 2022 10:47 Sermokala wrote: I love how he thinks that anything that says stuff against his narrative is in a unified other group called "the mainstream media" as if we aren't seeing these things on social media the same as him. Well wherever you get your news from, it should cause you to question why you envisioned the Canada truckers as racists that were proudly waving nazi and confederate flags when the reality from the footage I posted shows among the thousands of people and flags there was not a single confederate/nazi one in sight. | ||
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Sermokala
United States14146 Posts
On February 15 2022 13:58 BlackJack wrote: Well wherever you get your news from, it should cause you to question why you envisioned the Canada truckers as racists that were proudly waving nazi and confederate flags when the reality from the footage I posted shows among the thousands of people and flags there was not a single confederate/nazi one in sight. You should question why you are accepting as fact someone who is well aware of his surroundings and is trying to portray the terrorists he clearly supports in the best light. Trying to hide the nazi and confederate flags seems like something a reasonable person would expect from such a source. | ||
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BlackJack
United States10574 Posts
On February 15 2022 14:15 Sermokala wrote: You should question why you are accepting as fact someone who is well aware of his surroundings and is trying to portray the terrorists he clearly supports in the best light. Trying to hide the nazi and confederate flags seems like something a reasonable person would expect from such a source. Yikes. Here is the guy's channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/Ottawalks/videos All it is is videos of him walking around Ottawa. Hence the name "Ottawalks". The videos go back over a year, long long before any Truckers showed up. Now there are a bunch of protestors in Ottawa and his videos include the protestors. You just assume this guy is a supporter of the truckers that is hiding their nazi and confederate flags based on what exactly?? Also care to explain how you can film a shot of hundreds and hundreds of people within a town square and just conveniently "hide" all the nazi and confederate flags from view? Funny enough people on the other side are accusing the guy of being a Fed and obtaining video footage that will be used later to prosecute the truckers later. He responded: LOL to those calling me a FED, I shouldn't even have to address this nonsense. Go back and watch my videos, this is a walking channel. I started this channel because I was laid off early 2020 and wanted something to do that kept me active. I walk through the streets of Ottawa and I will continue to do so after all of this. Thank you to those who tune in, fans and haters This is tribalism at its best. Everyone is either on our side or the other side. You think he's with the truckers and people with the truckers think he is with the feds. The reality is this is just some random guy walking around filming his city and you're all deluding yourselves. | ||
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RKC
2848 Posts
Novak Djokovic: I’m not anti-vax but will sacrifice trophies if told to get jab https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-60354068 | ||
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Geisterkarle
Germany3257 Posts
Also to derail from the Candian truckers: What do you think about, that the ESA Speedgaming Marathon - happening right now! https://esamarathon.com/ - is actual an in-person event! We are a gaming-forum  | ||
Falling
Canada11556 Posts
On February 15 2022 14:15 Sermokala wrote: You should question why you are accepting as fact someone who is well aware of his surroundings and is trying to portray the terrorists he clearly supports in the best light. Trying to hide the nazi and confederate flags seems like something a reasonable person would expect from such a source. ...oooor maybe Nazi guy and Confed guy showed up on the very first day when things were at the most chaotic and never showed again because they were never really a part of the protest in any meaningful way. There's video tape at least of the Confed guy getting shamed by the crowd. They didn't want him there and so he tucked his tail and ran. Note, he's the one masked guy there. I don't know what your impression has been, but the whole point of the protest is to get rid of things like masks. Going maskless in the open air is kind a marker for the protestors. Confed guy was present, but he was not actually aligned with their values- and yeah, probably masked because otherwise he could get identified by bystanders... or the protestors themselves. This is no black bloc tactics; the protestors are identifying themselves by first names and by revealed faces. Not so Confed man. Full on Nazi flag guy doesn't seem to ever have ventured into the main part of the protest. No video footage has been found (as far as I've been aware), which makes me think, they made their appearance around the periphery and then got out of dodge before he could get thumped. Certainly there's a lot of truckers looking for him now: https://maybury.ca/the-reformed-physicist/2022/02/03/a-night-with-the-untouchables/ From Manitoba Corner (trucker crew): “Yes there was some clown with a Nazi flag on the weekend, and we don’t know where he’s from, but I’ll tell you what, if we see anyone with a Nazi flag or a Confederate flag, we’ll kick his fucking teeth in. No one’s a Nazi here.” Manitoba Corner all gave a shout out to that. If a movement is to be painted by the arrival of one flag, a Nazi flag also showed up at a pro-Palestine, anti-Israel rally, also in Ontario. But I'm going to guess most people would, for good reason, not paint the whole movement on the basis of that. If Nazi flags continued to fly uncontested after the first day, I think there would be a legitimate point. But the money shots were gained on the first day and that was that and nevermind all the Sikhs, Iranians, and the like coming out to join the truckers as well. | ||
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emperorchampion
Canada9496 Posts
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27015 Posts
On February 15 2022 14:15 Sermokala wrote: You should question why you are accepting as fact someone who is well aware of his surroundings and is trying to portray the terrorists he clearly supports in the best light. Trying to hide the nazi and confederate flags seems like something a reasonable person would expect from such a source. Is it the overwhelming tenor of things? No idea. Is it an element? I mean, yeah surely it’s got to be. All I can really verify is many folks from my days shitposting about politics, including folks who I have no compunction in considering deeply racist are rather large fans of these protests. There seems a collective incredulity that maybe, possibly some of one’s fellow travellers might hold some of these views that takes hold, reduced to sneering that ‘well the left say everything is racist’. The Nuremberg rallies it ain’t either, but that’s a mite frustrating to wade through literally every issue. | ||
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Razyda
1026 Posts
This is actually interesting research. According to it "Patients with vitamin D deficiency (<20 ng/mL) were 14 times more likely to have severe or critical disease than patients with 25(OH)D ≥40 ng/mL (odds ratio [OR], 14; 95% confidence interval [CI], 4 to 51; p < 0.001)." It actually makes me wonder if there are any stats (percentage based) comparing severe Covid cases between people living in large cities and more rural areas. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On February 16 2022 03:13 Razyda wrote: https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0263069 This is actually interesting research. According to it "Patients with vitamin D deficiency (<20 ng/mL) were 14 times more likely to have severe or critical disease than patients with 25(OH)D ≥40 ng/mL (odds ratio [OR], 14; 95% confidence interval [CI], 4 to 51; p < 0.001)." It actually makes me wonder if there are any stats (percentage based) comparing severe Covid cases between people living in large cities and more rural areas. This dynamic is believed to be why Nordic countries did a lot better than Spain/Italy. People who live in sunny areas tend to assume that all you need to get enough vitamin D is to live in a sunny region. This is not true. Going outside on a sunny day still leads to a huge vitamin D deficiency. So people who live in sunny areas end up being very vitamin D deficient. On the other hand, Nordic countries put vitamin D in a lot of stuff since they are not a sunny region. Vitamin D deficiency is much less common in Nordic regions, despite most people assuming less sunny weather would cause the opposite. | ||
Liquid`Drone
Norway28817 Posts
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Dav1oN
Ukraine3164 Posts
Our experience with the extra vitamin D + K3 is great so far, as we've started to take the pills during last autumn, later we had both asymptomatic delta and omicron, hopefully the others will also benefit from this simple trick. Boosting your natural immunity definitely helps overall And yea, this is very smart by the Nordic countries, we should take this lesson | ||
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BlackJack
United States10574 Posts
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