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Any and all updates regarding the COVID-19 will need a source provided. Please do your part in helping us to keep this thread maintainable and under control.

It is YOUR responsibility to fully read through the sources that you link, and you MUST provide a brief summary explaining what the source is about. Do not expect other people to do the work for you.

Conspiracy theories and fear mongering will absolutely not be tolerated in this thread. Expect harsh mod actions if you try to incite fear needlessly.

This is not a politics thread! You are allowed to post information regarding politics if it's related to the coronavirus, but do NOT discuss politics in here.

Added a disclaimer on page 662. Many need to post better.
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-02-16 04:31:14
February 16 2022 04:30 GMT
#11801
So COVID lockdowns are unfortunately somewhat of a double whammy. Confining people indoors lower their natural vitamin D level. Of course, in the peak of pandemic, it's probably safer to be indoors to avoid contact altogether than to get that extra sunshine.

Still, it's worth considering whether existing restrictions continue to bear down lifestyle changes in people that makes us more susceptible to COVID and other illness or health risks (eg mental health).
gg no re thx
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14211 Posts
February 16 2022 05:48 GMT
#11802
We never got past people wearing masks being a good thing. Then we had people eating horse paste and now drinking piss. Why do you have any confidence that people are going to listen to an esoteric concept of lifestyle changes as a result of societal change on disease susceptibility and taking mental health seriously?
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46489 Posts
February 16 2022 13:16 GMT
#11803
On February 16 2022 14:48 Sermokala wrote:
We never got past people wearing masks being a good thing. Then we had people eating horse paste and now drinking piss. Why do you have any confidence that people are going to listen to an esoteric concept of lifestyle changes as a result of societal change on disease susceptibility and taking mental health seriously?


At this point, any additional recommendations are probably going to only be taken seriously by people who are already taking their health seriously. The people who are vaccinated might listen, but I imagine that the anti-vaxxers / anti-maskers are going to believe that scientists are secretly putting vaccines (or covid) in vitamin D supplements.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
February 16 2022 13:21 GMT
#11804
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46489 Posts
February 16 2022 13:24 GMT
#11805
On February 16 2022 22:21 JimmiC wrote:
This anecdote from my weekend cracked me the hell up! My wife's aunt is a big cross fit person and ahs been on the whole don't put something "unnatural" into her body kick. We go to her Mothers 90th and this Aunts face is all swollen and odd looking from lip filler and botox! ROLF, will inject her face with poison, but won't take a vaccine. Crazy people! They should have just told people it would make them look younger or lose weight and people would have been faking their identities to get more!


That sort of hypocrisy is always particularly disappointing to me. I know people who smoke or eat unhealthy food all the time, but their argument for not getting vaccinated is that they don't want to put potentially harmful things in their body. They should at least come up with a different argument for not getting vaccinated.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
February 16 2022 14:04 GMT
#11806
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Razyda
Profile Joined March 2013
1059 Posts
February 17 2022 17:15 GMT
#11807
https://www.glasgowtimes.co.uk/news/19931641.covid-data-will-not-published-concerns-misrepresented-anti-vaxxers/

Oh wow.

"Public Health Scotland will stop publishing data on covid deaths and hospitalisations by vaccination status - over concerns it is misrepresented by anti-vaxx campaigners."

This is insane actually.
Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-02-17 17:34:28
February 17 2022 17:33 GMT
#11808
Could be very interesting topic. But what frightens me is the comment section, I could not imagine so many having side effects, feels like the topic is massively underreported

I'm not anti-vaxxer, but the people should know

In memory of Geoff "iNcontroL" Robinson 11.09.1985 - 21.07.2019 A tribute to incredible man, embodiment of joy, esports titan, starcraft community pillar all in one. You will always be remembered!
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
February 17 2022 17:40 GMT
#11809
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
February 17 2022 17:50 GMT
#11810
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Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6223 Posts
February 17 2022 17:52 GMT
#11811
On February 18 2022 02:15 Razyda wrote:
https://www.glasgowtimes.co.uk/news/19931641.covid-data-will-not-published-concerns-misrepresented-anti-vaxxers/

Oh wow.

"Public Health Scotland will stop publishing data on covid deaths and hospitalisations by vaccination status - over concerns it is misrepresented by anti-vaxx campaigners."

This is insane actually.


Stupid.
They could work around the problem, and publish deaths/hospitalizations by vaccination status per capita. If they publish the vaccination numbers, and total counts, you can work backwards to get the regular numbers. If you're smart enough to get the regular numbers you'll understand the per capita numbers, and that takes away ammunition from anti-vax idiots who look at the numbers directly?
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
February 17 2022 17:58 GMT
#11812
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27460 Posts
February 17 2022 18:53 GMT
#11813
I’m confused why myocarditis is so frequently upheld as a reason to not get vaccinated, when it’s you know, also a thing that can come with actually getting Covid? Strange

My direct boss is currently off the guts of a month now with… myocarditis after not getting vaccinated.

Hope he gets well soon but it’s really fucking me over currently. The business’ wise decision to dispense of dedicated HR in lieu of making everything the purview of line managers does not work particularly well when your line manager is otherwise indisposed.

'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14211 Posts
February 17 2022 19:03 GMT
#11814
Most of the things cited to not get the vaccine is just as a result of covid itself. They don't think that they're going to get covid and don't think that they're going to be the one to get any of the symptoms of long covid. They operate in this bizzaro space of "I don't want to get covid so I'm not going to protect myself from covid while also doing everything to get covid."
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
February 17 2022 19:27 GMT
#11815
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iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4456 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-02-17 23:35:19
February 17 2022 23:31 GMT
#11816
On February 18 2022 04:27 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2022 03:53 WombaT wrote:
I’m confused why myocarditis is so frequently upheld as a reason to not get vaccinated, when it’s you know, also a thing that can come with actually getting Covid? Strange

My direct boss is currently off the guts of a month now with… myocarditis after not getting vaccinated.

Hope he gets well soon but it’s really fucking me over currently. The business’ wise decision to dispense of dedicated HR in lieu of making everything the purview of line managers does not work particularly well when your line manager is otherwise indisposed.


Because there is no logical reasom to avoit it, if there was it wouldnt be (practically) universally reccomended globally by health practicioners, especially when you consider almost all get no personal gain.

Buy instead of just taking it, or admitting that they just dont want to they manufacture reasons. Some do the conspiracies others ignore the parts of information they do not like to try to create a reason.

Its very strange but it seems to happen often, this one is just super clear and obvious.


The Guardian ran a pretty decent article a few days ago listing numerous reasons why people are hesitant to take it, it's worth a read.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/feb/15/this-is-why-some-people-dont-want-to-get-the-covid-vaccine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
February 17 2022 23:43 GMT
#11817
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46489 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-02-18 01:15:44
February 18 2022 01:14 GMT
#11818
On February 18 2022 08:43 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2022 08:31 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
On February 18 2022 04:27 JimmiC wrote:
On February 18 2022 03:53 WombaT wrote:
I’m confused why myocarditis is so frequently upheld as a reason to not get vaccinated, when it’s you know, also a thing that can come with actually getting Covid? Strange

My direct boss is currently off the guts of a month now with… myocarditis after not getting vaccinated.

Hope he gets well soon but it’s really fucking me over currently. The business’ wise decision to dispense of dedicated HR in lieu of making everything the purview of line managers does not work particularly well when your line manager is otherwise indisposed.


Because there is no logical reasom to avoit it, if there was it wouldnt be (practically) universally reccomended globally by health practicioners, especially when you consider almost all get no personal gain.

Buy instead of just taking it, or admitting that they just dont want to they manufacture reasons. Some do the conspiracies others ignore the parts of information they do not like to try to create a reason.

Its very strange but it seems to happen often, this one is just super clear and obvious.


The Guardian ran a pretty decent article a few days ago listing numerous reasons why people are hesitant to take it, it's worth a read.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/feb/15/this-is-why-some-people-dont-want-to-get-the-covid-vaccine



Im not saying people dont have reasons, they are just not logical once you critically think about them or look into the alternatives. The article does not dispute that.


Yeah, that article certainly lists plenty of reasons, but they're not necessarily good ones lol. That list helps us understand what anti-vaxxers think, which is definitely helpful, but it's not like those arguments are particularly impenetrable.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
February 18 2022 04:36 GMT
#11819
On February 18 2022 08:31 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2022 04:27 JimmiC wrote:
On February 18 2022 03:53 WombaT wrote:
I’m confused why myocarditis is so frequently upheld as a reason to not get vaccinated, when it’s you know, also a thing that can come with actually getting Covid? Strange

My direct boss is currently off the guts of a month now with… myocarditis after not getting vaccinated.

Hope he gets well soon but it’s really fucking me over currently. The business’ wise decision to dispense of dedicated HR in lieu of making everything the purview of line managers does not work particularly well when your line manager is otherwise indisposed.


Because there is no logical reasom to avoit it, if there was it wouldnt be (practically) universally reccomended globally by health practicioners, especially when you consider almost all get no personal gain.

Buy instead of just taking it, or admitting that they just dont want to they manufacture reasons. Some do the conspiracies others ignore the parts of information they do not like to try to create a reason.

Its very strange but it seems to happen often, this one is just super clear and obvious.


The Guardian ran a pretty decent article a few days ago listing numerous reasons why people are hesitant to take it, it's worth a read.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/feb/15/this-is-why-some-people-dont-want-to-get-the-covid-vaccine



There are also reasons people think the earth is flat. Big difference between "brain dead stupid shit" and "legitimate, reasonable belief"
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
February 18 2022 05:13 GMT
#11820
100% of people I know (unrepresentative sample) that didn't get the vaccine had already gotten Covid and made the legitimate, reasonable, and increasingly likely to be correct, assumption that recovery immunity was as good or better.
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