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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Silvanel
Poland4769 Posts
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Harris1st
Germany7426 Posts
On November 03 2021 21:10 Silvanel wrote: Not really covid related but today i had two different vaccines (one ine ach arm). I now feel like some kind of antivaxxer supervillain. Vaxman! Can you shoot needles out of your hands? | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46516 Posts
On November 02 2021 06:01 LegalLord wrote: I'll wait until a variant-specific booster myself. I'm not in any particular risk group and two-dose is more than enough to avoid the worst consequences of getting the corvid. Seems frivolous to get it without a good need, really. I guess it depends on a lot of factors. The United States has plenty of shots that we're not giving away to other countries, so it's not like there's a short supply here that needs to be saved for the weakest and oldest Americans. I'm in close quarters (not social distancing) with over a hundred students every day, in a building where thousands of people walk in close quarters (not social distancing) in hallways and bathrooms and classrooms, and are completely unmasked inside cafeterias for lunch; that daily reality, plus the fact that the holidays and winter are coming (i.e., more people will be indoors due to colder weather / not social distancing / seeing more friends and family during vacations and weekends / possibly traveling to other places), means that I'll feel a lot more comfortable after receiving my booster shot, especially since I'm pretty much "due" for one anyway, based on when I got my first two Pfizer shots  | ||
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Silvanel
Poland4769 Posts
On November 03 2021 21:16 Harris1st wrote: Vaxman! Can you shoot needles out of your hands? And autism out of my eyes! | ||
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iPlaY.NettleS
Australia4456 Posts
Quebec https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6235760 Quebec health-care employees will no longer have to be fully vaccinated to work in the health system, the government announced Wednesday. At a news conference, Quebec Health Minister Christian Dubé announced that the province was moving away from a strategy of mandatory vaccination toward one of compulsory testing for unvaccinated employees. Ontario https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/mobile/doug-ford-refuses-to-make-covid-19-vaccines-mandatory-for-ontario-hospital-workers-1.5650760 Premier Doug Ford has announced he will not mandate COVID-19 vaccines for hospital workers, saying he's "not prepared to jeopardize the delivery of care to millions of Ontarians." In a statement on Wednesday, Ford said mandatory vaccines for hospital workers is a "complex issue" that could result in the "potential departure of tens of thousands of health-care workers." | ||
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iPlaY.NettleS
Australia4456 Posts
https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/we-all-have-a-responsibility-to-get-our-booster-nsw-residents-told-to-get-third-jab-to-avoid-lockdown/news-story/8ef4a779cde83a80dec13912c65187c2 ’We all have a responsibility to get our booster’: NSW residents told to get third jab to avoid lockdown NSW residents “all have a responsibility” to get a booster shot if they “want to remain in work” and avoid another lockdown, Jobs Minister Stuart Ayres says. Booster shots, which are now being offered to all adults six months after their second dose, are not currently mandatory to be considered “fully vaccinated” against Covid-19. But Mr Ayres on Wednesday said that if people wanted the state to remain open, booster shots would be essential. | ||
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JumboJohnson
537 Posts
If you are a Federal Contractor the vaccine is mandatory, with no testing option. There are religious and medical exceptions. My employer just announced their requirements. | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On November 04 2021 19:21 JumboJohnson wrote: @JimmiC If you are a Federal Contractor the vaccine is mandatory, with no testing option. There are religious and medical exceptions. My employer just announced their requirements. My company (a federal contractor) had religious & medical exemptions but denied just about all of them. When the individual agencies that require contractors to get vaccinated all have different rules, it effectively turns into a no-exception mandate. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46516 Posts
For comparison, my first vaccine shot gave me a sore arm for about a day, and my second vaccine shot gave me nausea for about a day (always Pfizer). This third shot: nothing, whatsoever! It'll be different for everyone, of course! | ||
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
Not sure how that'll pan out, although I think everybody I talk to got their shots months ago. | ||
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Magic Powers
Austria4478 Posts
While it is certainly correct that unvaccinated people are very heavily overrepresented among the infected ones requiring hospitalization, I doubt his choice of words will lead to positive change. The strategy of ending the pandemic by getting as many people vaccinated as possible appears to be a losing one at this moment, at least in many of the western countries. Even Denmark with an alleged 75% full vaccination rate is having another big wave pretty much since the moment they reopened. This makes the case of the UAE especially noteworthy, as they've managed to convince nearly everyone to get vaccinated, and infections and deaths have been on a constant decline since February. I've searched for information on their approach to getting people vaccinated, but there's nothing that sticks out to me as especially noteworthy when compared to other countries. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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teeel141
93 Posts
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ChristianS
United States3304 Posts
Wikipedia And here’s Ivermectin: Wikipedia As you can see they’re totally different structures. So, yes, it’s unsurprising they perform differently in the clinic. Completely different drugs often do. | ||
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Sermokala
United States14211 Posts
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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teeel141
93 Posts
On November 05 2021 23:24 JimmiC wrote: The stupid crowd being so obsessed with made up conspiracies. Ivermectin just does not work on covid, it has been tested it sucks. Sorry you were tricked by the same people that think JFK ghost is coming back to fight the deep state but you were. Like why is Merck (who makes ivermectin) not big evil big pharma? What makes them good big pharma? They have 48 billion in revenue. Pfizer he 42 Billion in revenue and like half the stock value. Their is not even a hint of logic to this stupidity. And Merck have an approved covid treatment its called Molnupiravir, and it is getting authorized and used before Pfizers was. Its just Ivermectin was not because that is not what it does. https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/u-k-authorizes-merck-antiviral-pill-1st-shown-to-treat-covid-19-1.5651764 This crowd is basically mad that Antivan is not being prescribed for erectile disfunction without realizing that Viagra is and unlike Anitvan it actually helps with ED. Ivermectin is a generic drug and anybody can make it. There's no profit in it. I can't believe people still bring up Merck as some argument. | ||
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teeel141
93 Posts
On November 05 2021 23:05 ChristianS wrote: Not sure if you’re just trolling, but here’s PF-07321332 (Pfizer’s new drug, Paxlovid is just this plus ritonavir): Wikipedia And here’s Ivermectin: Wikipedia As you can see they’re totally different structures. So, yes, it’s unsurprising they perform differently in the clinic. Completely different drugs often do. Ivermectin has been proven to be a protease inhibitor in a lab or so i've read. So it's the same mechanism of action. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46516 Posts
On November 05 2021 23:38 teeel141 wrote: Ivermectin has been proven to be a protease inhibitor in a lab or so i've read. So it's the same mechanism of action. .......You sourced a completely different drug and then arbitrarily called it Ivermectin. Did you want to call it Hydroxychloroquine too? How about Bleach? How about Natural Supplements? Is this what we're going to see next? Actual useful, effective, researched, approved drugs to fight against covid, and then conspiracy theorists saying that those drugs are actually Iver and HCQ in disguise and that they were right all along? | ||
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