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Emnjay808
United States10665 Posts
Also I had Iceland and Japan planned for last year. Which is why I’m eager to leave the islands lol. Also I’ve literally never seen snow before. Afaik Japan is still super closed. I’m pretty sure Iceland is more lax though. Also on the subject of just catching any common sickness. I’m always super careful with distancing. The only times I’ve gotten bugs was when I ordered take out. So I’m hoping now all food places are more strict with who they let work. | ||
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Emnjay808
United States10665 Posts
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Ciaus_Dronu
South Africa1848 Posts
On January 20 2021 07:21 Lmui wrote: Covid being gone doesn't really mean you're immune to colds and all the other garbage people breathe in/out. From here on out I think I wear a mask on public transport because going literally a year without catching a cold or other illness is pretty nice. Same here. A lot of people seem to really hate wearing them, but a culture of mask-wearing in crowded spaces seems pretty great from a public health perspective. Although I haven't had a bad flu or anything for years, I get half a dozen mild colds a year. In the past I've never done much except wash my hands a lot to try be responsible and not spread it, but wearing a mask would definitely be the responsible choice there too. | ||
Liquid`Drone
Norway28796 Posts
I do live in a country with very generous sick leave, though. (A cold means I stay home from work for a couple days with full pay, no questions asked.) | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On January 20 2021 07:49 Liquid`Drone wrote: I prefer hugging people and greeting people with handshakes and getting 2-3-4 colds per year over maintaining covid distance and not getting any colds, tbh. Masks don't even particularly bother me and I'm totally happy to wear them these days, but I think I still take 2-3-4 colds per year over wearing masks on every bus trip and visit to the store. I do live in a country with very generous sick leave, though. (A cold means I stay home from work for a couple days with full pay, no questions asked.) I would avoid handshakes even if I had nanomachines preventing me from contracting any illness. | ||
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mierin
United States4943 Posts
On January 20 2021 08:29 Mohdoo wrote: I would avoid handshakes even if I had nanomachines preventing me from contracting any illness. That's your choice, and I'd respect it if I were one of your friends, but at the same time I would not want any sort of "just in case" mandates indefinitely or even significant societal pressure against acting like "normal" human beings. This of course is at a theoretical point after Covid has run its course. | ||
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Belisarius
Australia6233 Posts
I think the death of presenteeism and the normalisation of WFH will be much more impactful. When someone can wake up with a cold and just declare a WFH day rather than get guilt-tripped for dumping their responsibilities, people will be so much more willing to avoid infecting their coworkers. Personally I hope it stays acceptable to death-stare a colleague for sniffling in the office for a long, long time. | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8860 Posts
On January 20 2021 13:08 JimmiC wrote: It is getting so bad in the US, I'm surprised it is not talked about any more. It is now the number 1 killer in the US, more than heart disease and cancer. They are talking about 10% of people who caught it having long covid and who knows that impact. That is like 3-4 million Americans. And it us likely to get worse over the winter, 100k deaths in just 5 weeks when it took almost all of 2020 to get to 300k. https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/01/19/957488613/as-death-rate-accelerates-u-s-records-400-000-lives-lost-to-the-coronavirus isnt winter nearing its end now? or does it get colder in february | ||
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Lmui
Canada6223 Posts
On January 20 2021 07:49 Liquid`Drone wrote: I prefer hugging people and greeting people with handshakes and getting 2-3-4 colds per year over maintaining covid distance and not getting any colds, tbh. Masks don't even particularly bother me and I'm totally happy to wear them these days, but I think I still take 2-3-4 colds per year over wearing masks on every bus trip and visit to the store. I do live in a country with very generous sick leave, though. (A cold means I stay home from work for a couple days with full pay, no questions asked.) Handshakes and whatever in the office are fine, with/without mask once the threat of covid is gone. Hugging friends maskless is fine. Passively getting sick from standing in a train next to 200 other people for 20 min day in day out over the course of a year isn't worth it to me, I can wear a mask for 80 min a day during my commute to/from work. I have essentially unlimited sick days, but I still don't like getting sick. | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On January 20 2021 13:15 evilfatsh1t wrote: isnt winter nearing its end now? or does it get colder in february The "winter" for coronavirus runs through April before any meaningful chance of a weather-driven reprieve. A lot like last year, but starting from a much worse position just because of how much more widespread the disease is. | ||
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28796 Posts
My main point is that I think physical contact is a good thing, and I don't want a permanent reduction of it. And while I'm able to smile towards people I pass on the street or buy groceries from or hold the door for with my eyes, I do prefer smiling with my full face. | ||
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BlackJack
United States10574 Posts
On January 20 2021 13:08 JimmiC wrote: It is getting so bad in the US, I'm surprised it is not talked about any more. It is now the number 1 killer in the US, more than heart disease and cancer. They are talking about 10% of people who caught it having long covid and who knows that impact. That is like 3-4 million Americans. And it us likely to get worse over the winter, 100k deaths in just 5 weeks when it took almost all of 2020 to get to 300k. https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/01/19/957488613/as-death-rate-accelerates-u-s-records-400-000-lives-lost-to-the-coronavirus no need to talk about it anymore. the election is over lol Also fortunately in some places it should get better over the winter. North Dakota was probably worst in the country in deaths per million a couple months ago and now they didn't seem to get any sort of Holiday surge from Thanksgiving/Christmas. Pretty much everyone there got it already. California is probably the worst now over the last 60 days and I suspect that we are close to peaking or may have already peaked in California and will now see a downtrend in cases/deaths over the coming months. If we can ride that downtrend into vaccine immunity maybe we can be back to some semblance of a normal life by Summer. | ||
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Slydie
1935 Posts
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Slydie
1935 Posts
Covid is not political, the problem is that too many people think it is. How can do say that? Every part of dealing with Covid is political, and a healthy political discussion is very important. Politicians need to be held accountable for both doing too little, too much and the wrong things. Medical experts are generally not calling the shots, and they often strongly disagree amongst themselves. Edit: or do you mean at an individual level? In that regard, I agree it makes sense to take personal responsibility for reading up on what to do and not. I like to especially look at real-life cases and pay close attention to the local situation. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Sermokala
United States14113 Posts
On January 20 2021 13:15 evilfatsh1t wrote: isnt winter nearing its end now? or does it get colder in february Late Jan-early febuary is useualy when the polar vortex arrives. Its not going to be going to be the -45 Celcius windchill hellscape of 2019 but it'll be pretty bad. | ||
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Emnjay808
United States10665 Posts
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