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Any and all updates regarding the COVID-19 will need a source provided. Please do your part in helping us to keep this thread maintainable and under control.

It is YOUR responsibility to fully read through the sources that you link, and you MUST provide a brief summary explaining what the source is about. Do not expect other people to do the work for you.

Conspiracy theories and fear mongering will absolutely not be tolerated in this thread. Expect harsh mod actions if you try to incite fear needlessly.

This is not a politics thread! You are allowed to post information regarding politics if it's related to the coronavirus, but do NOT discuss politics in here.

Added a disclaimer on page 662. Many need to post better.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11629 Posts
May 30 2020 12:12 GMT
#3461
Bolsonaro is basically Trump, but portuguese speaking, so most people in the english speaking world don't notice as accutely.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-30 12:48:49
May 30 2020 12:15 GMT
#3462
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21950 Posts
May 30 2020 13:00 GMT
#3463
On May 30 2020 20:57 SC-Shield wrote:
It will be difficult for Brazil to outdo US because Trump is an exceptional president, let's say it that way... Meanwhile, we had only 8 new cases yesterday. Numbers are still going down.
The US has a lot of resources that the people below Trump who do care can throw at the problem. Brazil doesn't have that near infinite pool of resources so yes they can outdo the US in this.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34495 Posts
May 30 2020 13:28 GMT
#3464
Watch the politics chatter, guys.
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
May 30 2020 14:16 GMT
#3465
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Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5599 Posts
May 30 2020 15:04 GMT
#3466
On May 30 2020 06:08 JimmiC wrote:
Brazil is going nuts right now they already have tons of cases and are gaining on the US. Plus they have extreme poverty in some of the hardest hit area's. It would not be shocking if they are fairly close to the US right now and just don't have the funds (especially in the NE where it is poor and didn't vote for their current leader) to do enough testing. They are liekly missing so many deaths and cases as is.

Personally my son who's 7 developed a rash, low grade fever and swollen glands. He got swabbed for covid (which took 2 tries as he pulled it out the first time as it was pretty darn deep) and they will know Monday or Tuesday. We have been basically isolated and there are not a ton of cases around here so I would be shocked if that was it. Hopefully it was allergies (which I have, and it seems like he does) and then the ear infections he has been getting on and off for a bit now. He will be going to a ENT to have that checked out as well.

Fun of parenthood, kids get sick and you worry, likely not major and the doctor was great and reassuring. But scary to a young kid with all the PPE and the special area in the hospital you go for testing.

Crazy times we live in!

I don't think you need to worry that much about your son though, since the disease is almost never dangerous for children. The risk of death must be almost astronomical at that age without some strange comorbidities.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
Nouar
Profile Joined May 2009
France3270 Posts
May 30 2020 19:10 GMT
#3467
On May 31 2020 00:04 Elroi wrote:
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On May 30 2020 06:08 JimmiC wrote:
Brazil is going nuts right now they already have tons of cases and are gaining on the US. Plus they have extreme poverty in some of the hardest hit area's. It would not be shocking if they are fairly close to the US right now and just don't have the funds (especially in the NE where it is poor and didn't vote for their current leader) to do enough testing. They are liekly missing so many deaths and cases as is.

Personally my son who's 7 developed a rash, low grade fever and swollen glands. He got swabbed for covid (which took 2 tries as he pulled it out the first time as it was pretty darn deep) and they will know Monday or Tuesday. We have been basically isolated and there are not a ton of cases around here so I would be shocked if that was it. Hopefully it was allergies (which I have, and it seems like he does) and then the ear infections he has been getting on and off for a bit now. He will be going to a ENT to have that checked out as well.

Fun of parenthood, kids get sick and you worry, likely not major and the doctor was great and reassuring. But scary to a young kid with all the PPE and the special area in the hospital you go for testing.

Crazy times we live in!

I don't think you need to worry that much about your son though, since the disease is almost never dangerous for children. The risk of death must be almost astronomical at that age without some strange comorbidities.

I am assuming you mean infinitesimal, not astronomical ?
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Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-30 19:56:39
May 30 2020 19:34 GMT
#3468
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
May 31 2020 23:05 GMT
#3469
My wife works in daycare, which is reopening in Ohio tomorrow. They're required to give her masks, and well, take a look at them. They look (and feel) like repurposed beer koozies.

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Starlightsun
Profile Blog Joined June 2016
United States1405 Posts
May 31 2020 23:09 GMT
#3470
On June 01 2020 08:05 Nevuk wrote:
My wife works in daycare, which is reopening in Ohio tomorrow. They're required to give her masks, and well, take a look at them. They look (and feel) like repurposed beer koozies.

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lol wtf... those look terrible.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
May 31 2020 23:34 GMT
#3471
She said they're alright for about 30 minutes... then they're really uncomfortable. Fortunately we have some cloth masks around somewhere she can wear, but some of her colleagues won't be as lucky. She thinks it may just be the administration making the literally smallest effort they can to satisfy the requirement.

Daycares are going to be very strange. The workers have to wear masks which will impede the development of young children's language and socialization skills, the ratios are very different (going from a max of 12 children per 2 teachers to a max of 4 children per 1 teacher for infants), and currently there's discussion of not giving any lunch break to the employees - perhaps leading to a 4 day work week.

This is because they won't be able to swap out teachers during lunch breaks as they will only have 1 to a room instead of 2 (the 2 person ratio is 6 instead of 12, so it doesn't even double. Not as cost-effective, so they won't do it).
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6215 Posts
May 31 2020 23:57 GMT
#3472
On June 01 2020 08:05 Nevuk wrote:
My wife works in daycare, which is reopening in Ohio tomorrow. They're required to give her masks, and well, take a look at them. They look (and feel) like repurposed beer koozies.

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https://www.bcc3d.ca/products/ear-savers/

There's a local group around Vancouver printing these - not sure if you have a local group where you can acquire or buy some?

They defnitely help with ear stress from any prolonged use of masks with elastics
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27154 Posts
June 01 2020 04:20 GMT
#3473
My school here is starting up with two half days a week until the 15th. After that we will be back full time barring any setbacks. My school is also ordering face shields for students (1 each!) with no real idea how to implement their use.

My daughter is back to half days everyday until the 10th and then full time.

My son is playing jurassic world evolution everyday at home and is praying this never ends.
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Smurg
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Australia3818 Posts
June 01 2020 05:40 GMT
#3474
Australia, Queensland specifically, where the response to this pandemic was fairly quick, albeit wasn't taken that seriously initially. A lot of people got affected by the decision for the passengers of the Ruby Princess to disembark and spread out across the various states of Australia, which really contributed a lot to our overall case load.

It was quite a difficult time trying to understand what all of the instructions were (since a lot seemed contradictory, or quite convoluted).

My wife and I are both still employed, and have been working from home since mid-March, it's been quite nice. It's never felt 100% like a complete lockdown, as we have not been hit as hard. Social distancing was the main thing they touted, and also there were quite strict instructions in place to not gather in groups. For me, I have a dog, so I was outside every day, and it was never a particular concern for my own well-being, but we both did try to keep it to just the essentials -- grocery shopping (and a lot of booze buying).

As it stands now, restrictions are lifting, we are now able to have gatherings of 20 people outside or at someone's home. Most businesses can re-open but have to adhere to the same 20 person limit. I have seen it feel almost back to normal when I go out now, though I hope people don't get complacent and stop adhering to social distancing and so forth.
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5599 Posts
June 01 2020 07:58 GMT
#3475
In Stockholm it feels like life is almost back to 100% normal now, except that people are working from home if they can. I was playing basketball outside yesterday for the first time and there was about 20 people att the court. I have been very careful not to expose myself until now but it is really hard now that the weather is so good.

It is a bit scary that people take this so lightly now, but in this city with 1,4 million inhabitants we only average 2 new cases in icu per day over the last 10 days, so something must have changed, whether it is the summer or the number of people with antibodies.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
June 01 2020 22:01 GMT
#3476
lol reading some of the older comments on this thread and it's amazing how almost everyone was wrong about almost everything.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
June 01 2020 22:45 GMT
#3477
On June 02 2020 07:01 Anc13nt wrote:
lol reading some of the older comments on this thread and it's amazing how almost everyone was wrong about almost everything.

A lot of people were worried about a lot of things, and a lot of bad things happened and continue to happen. Well done, older comments!
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
June 01 2020 22:46 GMT
#3478
how about some choice examples?
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6215 Posts
June 01 2020 23:06 GMT
#3479
Well, I was wrong about at least:

1. How long this would last - In January, it was like, cool but it'll be like SARS/MERS. No major impact to my life
2. How severe it would get in Canada - BC handled it beautifully, Quebec/Ontario shat the bed.
3. The efficacy of masks apart below N95 standard - Seems any face covering that absorbs droplets dramatically reduces transmission.

For me, work says the absolute earliest we'd have a limited re-opening of the office is August. They might reopen it for personal item/work item pickup though before then.

I'd want to get all my personal stuff and probably my work chair as well. We have Herman Miller Mirra's at work which are amazing in summer. They're mesh, so your ass gets nice and ventilated. My home chair is faux-leather, so I sweat in it when the temperature rises.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
June 01 2020 23:19 GMT
#3480
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