EPTTomorrow is the beginning of the "fase 1" of the reopening of Spain. One main change is that outdoor serving will be allowed, and it is possible to gather up to 10 people, maintaining the safety distances etc. Being allowed to go outside in "fase 0" which started a week ago made a MASSIVE difference.
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Slydie
1935 Posts
Tomorrow is the beginning of the "fase 1" of the reopening of Spain. One main change is that outdoor serving will be allowed, and it is possible to gather up to 10 people, maintaining the safety distances etc. Being allowed to go outside in "fase 0" which started a week ago made a MASSIVE difference. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18265 Posts
On May 11 2020 00:49 Slydie wrote: I also feel very healthy at the moment, and I very rarely hear anybody sneeze, despite the allergy season. Of course sick people should stay at home, but I think it is a clear side effect of these corona measures that they have also oretty much stopped the spread of everything else. Thousands of lives are also saved due to less air pollution in the cities: https://english.elpais.com/elpais/2018/06/22/inenglish/1529657491_406807.html Tomorrow is the beginning of the "fase 1" of the reopening of Spain. One main change is that outdoor serving will be allowed, and it is possible to gather up to 10 people, maintaining the safety distances etc. Being allowed to go outside in "fase 0" which started a week ago made a MASSIVE difference. I live in Barcelona. We're still in phase 0  | ||
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TelecoM
United States10705 Posts
On May 10 2020 20:36 farvacola wrote: Feeling very good and very thankful. Hope everyone else is well. I also share the same sentiment, I hope everyone is feeling great! Time to get back to normal! | ||
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Nouar
France3270 Posts
On May 11 2020 10:04 GGzerG wrote: I also share the same sentiment, I hope everyone is feeling great! Time to get back to normal! Please don't get back to normal. The virus is circulating actively and weekly cases and deaths in the US are close to their all-time high. Go on with your life but respect boundaries and rules to avoid propagation, no travel etc. This is not "back to normal"... | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Aveng3r
United States2411 Posts
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOe_y6KKvS3PdIfb9q9pGug | ||
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Lmui
Canada6223 Posts
On May 12 2020 02:52 Mohdoo wrote: I am sad that a spike after relaxing stay at home orders is what is needed to have our country behave. 3 weeks from now, it will suck, but hopefully people will see the graph flatten and then spike as an indication flattening isn't some fucking permanent thing. Its not like once you flatten it, its paper. It can change. god damn. Vancouver has been fairly locked down for pretty much 2 months now, and people are sick of it. As soon as BC announced that mid-may, we might lift restrictions, it combo'd with a super nice weekend (25C, sunny) and everyone swarmed beaches and parks. Hopefully we don't get a spike in 2 weeks. If we don't though, that would be good news, since it proves to a reasonable degree that being outdoors can be done safely in BC. It might open the way to outdoor sports in close proximity. Not basketball, or other close contact sports, but maybe tennis, volleyball or similar things could be played. | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
There’s plenty of reason to hope for poor spreading rates outdoors at the beach. | ||
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
On May 12 2020 04:19 Danglars wrote: I was worried about Florida, after the governor kept beaches and shops open for spring break. The state showed no real bump 1-2 weeks later. The same has happened thus far for Orange County beaches (open for a big weekend when we got good weather), but now the data will be convoluted with more relaxations happening at the same time. There’s plenty of reason to hope for poor spreading rates outdoors at the beach. Agreed, same as in most africans country. We wouldn't be able to miss such a deadly disease in Africa. | ||
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BlackJack
United States10574 Posts
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Slydie
1935 Posts
It is starting to look like Kids are not that safe after all, better than seniors, but not better then rest of people. https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/3-ny-children-die-of-virus-linked-syndrome/ar-BB13UoTg?li=AAggFp5 There have been news about this syndrome for a while, but it is so very rare, and there are many unknowns. The dominant trend is that the younger you are, the less likely you to have symptoms and get sick from this virus. Have a look of this graph from Sweden, which kept their schools open: https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/09f821667ce64bf7be6f9f87457ed9aa Unfortunately, this will probably keep schools closed for a lot longer. | ||
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Emnjay808
United States10665 Posts
If people bump shoulder to shoulder in Walmart I don’t see how keeping social distancing in gyms would be any different, one could easily argue going to a gym to work out with proper sanitary practices would be way safer than grocery shopping. | ||
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BlueBird.
United States3890 Posts
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Lmui
Canada6223 Posts
On May 12 2020 05:34 Emnjay808 wrote: Open up the fucking gyms please. If people bump shoulder to shoulder in Walmart I don’t see how keeping social distancing in gyms would be any different, one could easily argue going to a gym to work out with proper sanitary practices would be way safer than grocery shopping. I heavily disagree here. In an average gym, there are a ton of grunts, some screamers, heavy breathers etc when lifting weights. There's also the cardio section where people in fairly close proximity are running, breathing heavily, occasionally coughing for 30 minutes at a time. You could conceivably wear a mask for weights, but cardio with a mask on sounds like a recipe for disaster. Just takes one person who decides "I feel shitty, but a shit workout beats no workout" and spreads it to a dozen people as they slog through their hour long routine. | ||
KwarK
United States43907 Posts
On May 12 2020 05:34 Emnjay808 wrote: Open up the fucking gyms please. If people bump shoulder to shoulder in Walmart I don’t see how keeping social distancing in gyms would be any different, one could easily argue going to a gym to work out with proper sanitary practices would be way safer than grocery shopping. Groceries are more essential than workouts and have fewer alternatives. If the gym is closed you can do body weight exercises or run around a park. If Walmart is closed you can’t photosynthesize. Comparative risk is meaningless unless you also account for the necessity of the activity. A gym may well be less risky than a Walmart but a Walmart justifies a far higher risk than a gym does. What you have done is effectively compared the numerator in two fractions, noted that one is higher than the other, and then, with no regard for the denominator, concluded that one is the higher number. | ||
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Emnjay808
United States10665 Posts
I was merely venting my frustrations. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45542 Posts
On May 12 2020 09:35 Emnjay808 wrote: What if we could shift the people shopping at Walmart for social hour (rather than essentials) and move that number to gym goers. Would that be acceptable. I was merely venting my frustrations. I'm sorry, but how are you being even remotely serious with your gym rant? I don't know what percentage of people go to supermarkets for "social hour", but I'm sure there are rules in place if people are simply loitering. We're talking about people needing food and medicine and toiletries. As in, the basic stuff they need to live. No one is saying you can't exercise; you just can't exercise alongside a bunch of other people in a public place, sharing gym equipment and sweat and the air and locker rooms. It honestly sounds like you're not appreciating the importance of self-isolation and social distancing. My wife and I miss our gym too, but we simply need to exercise in other ways for now. Go for a run. Find something heavy in your house, pick it up, put it down, and repeat ten times. Get creative. And be safe. + Show Spoiler + I didn't post this the first time you commented about the gym, as other people addressed your first post, but then you kept going | ||
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Emnjay808
United States10665 Posts
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On May 12 2020 11:45 Emnjay808 wrote: It was rhetorical. Just getting very anxious now days. This week is proving harder than previous ones, mentally and physcially. My recommendation is doing what little exercise you can. Even if you are used to rigorous gym workouts with stat tracking and whatnot, just try doing an Orange Theory work out and see how it goes. You'll feel better. You aren't getting a gym, so I recommend going with what you got. It sucks but its better than 0! | ||
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