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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
This is the spike that covers the covid-19. It is the open state wich binds to human cell ACE2 proteins. (couple of views in spoiler) + Show Spoiler + Meet the invisible enemy. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15690 Posts
On April 22 2020 23:58 Erasme wrote: Hey I'm currently working on a 3d software for big pharmas called Nanome that allow them to vizualize and work on 3d structures. We got some of the covid-19 structures. This is the spike that covers the covid-19. It is the open state wich binds to human cell ACE2 proteins. (couple of views in spoiler) + Show Spoiler + Meet the invisible enemy. That's super awesome, thank you for sharing. Getting really creeped out by states re-opening. The thing is, it means no matter what they will have to close later once infection spreads, so hopefully good long term? | ||
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Emnjay808
United States10656 Posts
People are already restless with no income. Unemployment site is inaccessible due to high traffic. On FB and IG people are planning protests. Best solution at this moment is to have testing kits to see if you have antibodies and start opening all businesses up. Idk if this is a lot to ask for but the state of unrest the general public is having is soon gonna implode. Hospital occupancy is around 60-70%. 12 total deaths “related” to COVID between all islands. Hardly any active cases that require an ICU bed(500ish last I checked?). Yesterday no new cases were found. Testing is growing rapidly by the day as well. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15690 Posts
On April 23 2020 03:31 Emnjay808 wrote: Hawaii is extending lockdown till end of May. But with revisions. People are already restless with no income. Unemployment site is inaccessible due to high traffic. On FB and IG people are planning protests. Best solution at this moment is to have testing kits to see if you have antibodies and start opening all businesses up. Idk if this is a lot to ask for but the state of unrest the general public is having is soon gonna implode. Hospital occupancy is around 60-70%. 12 total deaths “related” to COVID between all islands. Hardly any active cases that require an ICU bed(500ish last I checked?). Yesterday no new cases were found. Testing is growing rapidly by the day as well. New ID system. When you have antibodies, certified safe, given new secure form of SSN, ID freely provided by government. I'd like that. | ||
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SK.Testie
Canada11084 Posts
On April 23 2020 04:55 Mohdoo wrote: New ID system. When you have antibodies, certified safe, given new secure form of SSN, ID freely provided by government. I'd like that. Calm down big brother. | ||
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Simberto
Germany11519 Posts
On April 23 2020 04:55 Mohdoo wrote: New ID system. When you have antibodies, certified safe, given new secure form of SSN, ID freely provided by government. I'd like that. And suddenly you have corona-parties where people try to get infected due to societal and economic pressure. The US opening up again is only good in the way that it shows everyone what happens when you do, and thus no one else gets that idea. I would have something to say about IDs, but considering that that is a politics-adjacent topic... | ||
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Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
On April 23 2020 04:55 Mohdoo wrote: New ID system. When you have antibodies, certified safe, given new secure form of SSN, ID freely provided by government. I'd like that. This is an excellent way to give everyone the incentive to get infected immediately. It's like this textbook example of The British empire paying Indian citizens to kill snakes and suddenly everyone started breeding snakes | ||
BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On April 23 2020 04:55 Mohdoo wrote: New ID system. When you have antibodies, certified safe, given new secure form of SSN, ID freely provided by government. I'd like that. Nope, not interested. Also, let's not push on this please because as mentioned, this will get political fast. So let's try to keep it on topic folks. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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SC-Shield
Bulgaria818 Posts
Link: https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/22/health/cats-new-york-coronavirus-trnd/index.html | ||
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Uldridge
Belgium4800 Posts
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Acrofales
Spain18004 Posts
On April 23 2020 08:15 SC-Shield wrote: This coronavirus is so adaptable that it's scary how zoonotic it is.. Two cats tested positive. That and what we've heard about bats and possibly pangolins. It's crazy how quickly it makes those jumps in species. Link: https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/22/health/cats-new-york-coronavirus-trnd/index.html Pretty sure we already knew cats could get it. They got infected way back when this started in China, and that was then confirmed in a laboratory test with infecting cats, right? Also that tiger in a zoo in the US somewhere. | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
On April 24 2020 02:06 Doodsmack wrote: I'm wondering what will be the effect on different industries as a result of this extended period of "dormancy." Seems like it's not a given that they would all just reopen in the same state as they existed before. This dormancy almost provides them with a "clean slate" to correct or disrupt things in a way not possible when the ordinary economic forces are in operation (inertia). For example after the 2008 recession, the legal industry changed in some interesting ways that were, I think, a result of the inertial forces not being in effect and certain industry players taking advantage of that. Probably mass bankruptcy, along with some increased remote infrastructure for a lot of engineering / professional services. The vast majority of business travel, for example, is quite unnecessary (a teleconference would suffice) and the instinctive fear of respiratory infection will prevent people from doing it needlessly. Maybe remote work, maybe phone calls in place of in-person meetings where the latter isn't necessary. The few restaurants left that haven't gotten on the "to-go orders" train will probably develop that offering. One thing I expect not to catch on, despite seeming like an obvious path forward: telemedicine. My experience is that if you can't talk to a doctor directly in person, whatever medical "advice" they might be able to give is limited in usefulness to just empty talk and prescription refills. | ||
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ChristianS
United States3188 Posts
(borrowed description, not mine) Listening to this week’s Giant Bombcast, they were talking about the impact on new Xbox and Playstation consoles coming out this year, and they brought up some details I hadn’t considered. How are you supposed to QA test anything, if you’re not willing to let contractors take home your top-secret prototypes? How are developers supposed to function if the daily build server breaks and nobody’s at the office? This year’s WWE game got cancelled; how much of that was because they can’t exactly put people in a mo-cap studio to add new moves right now? Obviously there are more important things to worry about than video games, but I think similar problems are probably happening in most sectors, right? How many high-up executives are spending their time troubleshooting conference calls, as just one expensive example? I heard the estimate somewhere that this will all cost about 7% of annual GDP at the end of the day, which is an astronomical figure, but I also wonder if it isn’t still on the low end, considering how much work has basically ground to a halt for a month and counting. | ||
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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
On April 24 2020 03:35 ChristianS wrote: It’s not really the most important storyline, so it makes sense it hasn’t been a focus, but I do wonder what the effects will be of so many businesses suddenly being so dependent on IT systems, especially when those systems are probably thrown together really quickly and held together by bubble gum and Scotch tape. + Show Spoiler + (borrowed description, not mine) It's a great time to be a "tech" company (as always in the current millenium), but it definitely seems like the cracks are showing in the approach taken by the sloppiest businesses. The ongoing story with Zoom, where they've horribly blundered with hackers and bad infrastructure as the usage rises, is one of the most visible instances of this happening. Of course, very few people actually care about cybersecurity enough in proportion to its actual risk, so providers of said mediocre services have largely gotten off scot-free. One of the nice advantages of working in a heavily government-centered industry is that the infrastructure I work with was built for this kind of situation and kept all these concerns in mind well before anyone else, and the worst that I've seen is the standard fare of systems having to increase their capacity in line with an increased load of remote access. On April 24 2020 03:35 ChristianS wrote: I heard the estimate somewhere that this will all cost about 7% of annual GDP at the end of the day, which is an astronomical figure, but I also wonder if it isn’t still on the low end, considering how much work has basically ground to a halt for a month and counting. Economic impact from shutdown is probably roughly proportional to annual GDP * proportion of year spent shut down. Economic impact from the fragile financial house of cards tumbling after the initial impact reveals the reality of some really serious post-2008 bubble-blowing is probably more. Projections keep getting more grim by the week and we started from a basis of "the impact is going to be that China will grow a fraction of a percent slower this year than normal." Seeing 20 million people unemployed faster than ever before and expecting a rapid recovery seems patently insane to me. | ||
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Vivax
21991 Posts
Apparently it's money for literally 'reconstruction'. I would like to know what needs to be rebuilt that was destroyed while everyone was at home. Apparently newspapers are reluctant to just call it what it is and frame it as some kind of heroic Perestroika. New debt to cover missing interest payments. Hard to tell if this belonged in European Econ Q&A. But they call it Corona-relief, so yea | ||
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
A lot of people I know would rather be laid off and make 2k a month almost risk-free than work FT for less than 3-4k a month, at least for a few months while covid comes under control. UBI where it zeros out at some number (50-100k?), makes a lot more sense, and would go a long way to encouraging people to work if they get to keep every additional dollar they make instead of the silliness right now where if you have reduced hours past a certain point, or don't earn enough, it's better to be laid off. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On April 24 2020 03:04 LegalLord wrote: One thing I expect not to catch on, despite seeming like an obvious path forward: telemedicine. My experience is that if you can't talk to a doctor directly in person, whatever medical "advice" they might be able to give is limited in usefulness to just empty talk and prescription refills. It's not always like this though; a lot of the time, routine followups can easily be done over the phone with minimal hassle. I agree for new issues it's better to see them in person (better rapport, a chance to examine, etc) but I think a significant proportion of medicine can reasonably be done over the phone or a video link. | ||
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