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On June 27 2007 08:28 dragoon wrote:
cyberpowerpc.com
those comps are great deal but like I said, I'd rather buy my own. Besides they have sub par components cpu is core 2 duo 6320 and I don't need every part as I can scrap from old comp.
I plan to continue using XP, MAYBEconvert to Vista next year if it improves. Right now though I see no need for vista, basically it just looks like its trying to be all flashy to compete with the MAC market.
Mostly be using the computer for Games (wow,sc2,q4,UT2k7?, and older games like sc.),DVD/CD ripping/burning, video recording/editing, fruity loops stuff, photoshop stuff, etc.
not really sure how to read this chart, but I was thinking maybe the E6600 or the E6420 sounds good. I don't plan to overclock anything as I have never done it nor do I know anyone who does.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115003
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115016
Also, I've never built a PC up but I've installed many parts and taken parts out etc. The only things I haven't messed with is MOBOs, CPUs, and PSUs, anything or tips I should know about building?
So if I go with one of the 7950GT geforce, what Manufacturer should I go for?
BFG 7950GT thats the only one i see on newegg.
This card is much cheaper than those and its higher number, is that better?
XFX 8600 GT
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On June 26 2007 21:56 CharlieMurphy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2007 19:10 teh leet newb wrote:
1. I've gotten pretty much every rebate successfully redeemed in the last like 2 years.
2. That PSU looks like it's from a POS manufacturer. Get a quality power supply like a 500W Fortron, Seasonic, or Silverstone, just to name a few.
3. If you want a CRT, check around locally. I just got a flat screen unopened 17" eMachines CRT for $10. Best of all, you don't need to pay to ship a monster monitor.
4. Get either a 2900XT or 8800GTS. Those are great buys at the moment. The 2900XT is still kinda new, so not too much info is known about it. It seems pretty good in the benchmarks that have been released though, especially for the price.
PS: Don't listen to Izzycraft, he/she has pretty much no idea what he's talking about. POS? piece of shit? No I got quality advice from a customer at Fry's about that PSU and he actually bought the same one. I heard Antec and Thermaltake were the better Manufactureers for PSUs. He was saying shit about voltage being and important thing as much as the Wattage.
That guy has no idea what he's talking about either. The logo for that POS brand of PSU looks a lot like Aspire, which is a crappy nonname PSU brand. Wattage is only a small measure of performance and quality. They could have came up with that "680W" at an operating temperature of like 30 Celcius. As temperature increases, power decreases. Voltage is always constant and has nothing to do with performance. Quality PSU manufacturers test their power supplies at higher temperatures like 40-50C. What's even more important than wattage is the amps on the +12V rail, which the computer draws almost all of its power from. If you're going for something like a 2900XT or 8800GTS, you'll probably want at least like 32A on the +12V rail.
Oh, and for the processor, get an E6540 and overclock it.
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On June 26 2007 18:13 IzzyCraft wrote:
dell tends to rip you off im sorry but this is true most likely you can buy those parts seperatly for half the price their lcd sreens are really good though but dell is a rip off in general cheep parts create choke points in your computer where the performance is caped these are usualy the mobo ram and cpu so those are ususaly the most important parts to buy the 7600gt and the 7900 are both solid gpu cards if your holding out for cheeper dx10 cards that can perform
i disagree dell is usually a good value because they can buy their parts in bulk the parts are not cheep they are actually quite reliable however they do somewhat limit your tweaking potential if you are an enthusiast however the cheeper prices from dell especially during sales is more than enough to compensate for the limitations in overclocking especially since overclocking doesn't really add much real world performance anyways
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Teh leet noob definatly knows what he's talking about anyway, my stamp of approval! (not that that counts for anything. Hell in some places thats a bad thing)
Dell BTX pattern cases make me sad.
You don't know what you're talking about if you say overclocking doesn't add "real world performance" I have my GPU and my CPU overclocked and trust me, its MUCH better than stock.
Like I said, Seasonic M12s can offer as much as 40A across the 4 12V rails. Everyone should own a Seasonic. Although the Corsair PSUs are pretty damn good from what I've seen.
EDIT: Just had a proper look at that chart... looks like I might be upgrading CPU soon! Do NOT buy the Geforce 8600. My buddy did and its a total POS.
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Yup, Corsairs are great. They're rebranded Seasonics 
Haha, I had 1394 posts. Pretty fitting for a computer thread.
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I told you I don't know how to overclock shit and I don't plan to. Whats the point, this shit runs good enough already anyways for what I wanna do with my comp right?
as far as the PSU I bought isn't this good?:
+ Show Spoiler +
Model
Brand APEVIA
Model ATX-IB680W-BL
Series ICEBERG
SPEC
Type ATX12V / EPS12V
Maximum Power 680W
Fans 2
PFC No
Main Connector 20+4Pin
Dual +12V Yes
PCI-E Connectors 2 x 6Pin
SLI Support Yes
Modular Cabling Support No
Power Good Signal 100-500ms
Hold-up Time >10ms at full load
Efficiency > 70%
Over Voltage Protection Yes
Overload Protection Yes
Input Voltage 115/230 V
Input Frequency Range 50/60 Hz
Input Current 10A @ 115V, 5A @ 230V
Output +3.3V@38A, +5V@40A, +12V1@22A, +12V2@24A, -5V@0.3A, -12V@0.8A, +5VSB@2A
MTBF 100,000 Hours at full load
Approvals CB IEC 950, TUV EN 60950, UL 1950, CSA 950
Features
Connectors 1 x Main Connector (20+4 pin)
1 x 12V P4 / P8 (4/8 pin)
8 x Peripheral
4 x SATA
2 x Floppy
2 x PCI Express
Features High-tech aluminum casting with fire-resistant acrylic cover
LED light switch - Fan LED lights can be switched to blue, green or red
Multi-color coated components & PC board
Excellent Ventilation Design: 2 x 80 mm crystal LED fans
User-adjustable fan speed controller optimizing balance between noise reduction and necessary cooling
Cable Management: all cables are sleeved to avoid clutter and to improve airflow
UV Sensitive On/Off Power Switch, Power Plug and connectors
Short circuit / over voltage / over current protection
Manufacturer Warranty
Parts 1 year limited
Labor 1 year limited
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817148028
oh shit just realized this is cheaper than what I bought at the store after rebate.
PS- teh leet newb it doesn't seem like your even reading my posts. I said I don't plan to OC, don't wanna buy that crazy of a video card. I said I wanna spend around $150-200 for GPU and $150-200 for CPU. It feels to me like your just quoting what other people say is the best of the best instead of helping me find the best for my price range.
Is my PSU overkill for the 7950gt and a 6420/6600 core 2 duo?
PPS- What was wrong with the 8600GT ??
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I am sorry I did not see this this topic. It is hard to squeeze good dx 10 card within that budged. You have to make compromises. You will not benefit much from better processor, but you will from better graphic card.
Intel C2D E4300 - 120$
Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3 - 120$
2x1gb ram DDR2 800 MHz - 100$
8800 GTS 320 mb - 300$
good power supply is around 120$
That is around 760$, but you still have to buy monitor right? With 1000$ budget you can spend 130-150$ on good 17" or if you can find 19" crt. Does it have to be 19"? 90$ is left, and you can spend it for case. Any real and by real I mean quality 400-500W (chieftec, antec,) psu is enough for all of your needs.
As for graphic cards manufacturers goes, the cards and performances (if they are not stock overclocked) are the same. Go with the one that offers the most warranty. You could save few bucks here and there, and for that you could buy better processor.
8600 sucks because it is 128 bit card, and very slow. It does support dx 10, but that card is not for gaming.
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On June 28 2007 06:07 Red_Dragon wrote:
You will not benefit much from better processor, but you will from better graphic card.
Intel C2D E4300 - 120$
Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3 - 120$
2x1gb ram DDR2 800 MHz - 100$
8800 GTS 320 mb - 300$
good power supply is around 120$
QFT.
Assuming that the PC is mainly for gaming than for hardcore encoding then the E4300 is more than enough. The videocard is usually the bottleneck for games, not processor.
With the money saved from not buying a higher processor, put that extra cash into a better videocard like the 8800 GTS monster. It's future proof with its DX10 features & is a powerful card.
EDIT: Starcraft 2 is mentioned it might contain DX10 features.
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On June 27 2007 23:28 CharlieMurphy wrote:I told you I don't know how to overclock shit and I don't plan to. Whats the point, this shit runs good enough already anyways for what I wanna do with my comp right? as far as the PSU I bought isn't this good?: + Show Spoiler +
Model
Brand APEVIA
Model ATX-IB680W-BL
Series ICEBERG
SPEC
Type ATX12V / EPS12V
Maximum Power 680W
Fans 2
PFC No
Main Connector 20+4Pin
Dual +12V Yes
PCI-E Connectors 2 x 6Pin
SLI Support Yes
Modular Cabling Support No
Power Good Signal 100-500ms
Hold-up Time >10ms at full load
Efficiency > 70%
Over Voltage Protection Yes
Overload Protection Yes
Input Voltage 115/230 V
Input Frequency Range 50/60 Hz
Input Current 10A @ 115V, 5A @ 230V
Output +3.3V@38A, +5V@40A, +12V1@22A, +12V2@24A, -5V@0.3A, -12V@0.8A, +5VSB@2A
MTBF 100,000 Hours at full load
Approvals CB IEC 950, TUV EN 60950, UL 1950, CSA 950
Features
Connectors 1 x Main Connector (20+4 pin)
1 x 12V P4 / P8 (4/8 pin)
8 x Peripheral
4 x SATA
2 x Floppy
2 x PCI Express
Features High-tech aluminum casting with fire-resistant acrylic cover
LED light switch - Fan LED lights can be switched to blue, green or red
Multi-color coated components & PC board
Excellent Ventilation Design: 2 x 80 mm crystal LED fans
User-adjustable fan speed controller optimizing balance between noise reduction and necessary cooling
Cable Management: all cables are sleeved to avoid clutter and to improve airflow
UV Sensitive On/Off Power Switch, Power Plug and connectors
Short circuit / over voltage / over current protection
Manufacturer Warranty
Parts 1 year limited
Labor 1 year limited
oh shit just realized this is cheaper than what I bought at the store after rebate. PS- teh leet newb it doesn't seem like your even reading my posts. I said I don't plan to OC, don't wanna buy that crazy of a video card. I said I wanna spend around $150-200 for GPU and $150-200 for CPU. It feels to me like your just quoting what other people say is the best of the best instead of helping me find the best for my price range. Is my PSU overkill for the 7950gt and a 6420/6600 core 2 duo? PPS- What was wrong with the 8600GT ??
Sorry, I was kinda just skimming stuff because there were a lot of posts. But what I said about the PSU is crucial. Any knowledgeable computer person can tell you that PSU sucks. "Apevia" is a noname brand (used to be Aspire, which totally sucked). Brand name is far more important than advertised wattage. If you read my post, you would see that "680W" could probably only mean around 400W in a normal operating environment. They probably also use bad capacitors, increasing the chance of failure. Here's a list of power supplies to avoid, and Aspire/Apevia is one of the worst:
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=974240
Read this to understand why rated wattage means crap:
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=779582
Go with a solid and reputable manufacturer like FSP, Seasonic, OCZ, Tagan, etc. Antec used to be good, but now their quality is slipping a bit, so the Seasonic Antecs are still great, but the rest are about a tier lower. Still not bad, but not the best either. But whatever you do, just ditch that PSU. It'll only give you trouble in the future.
Okay, now for the GPU. I have this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102067
It's a great card, and at only $150 AR, it gives you an excellent bang for your buck. It beats the 7950GT and costs less. The only downside is that the fan is really loud. I have it turned up to max because loudness doesn't bother me (I always have music blasted). It overclocks pretty well, and I got mine up to XTX speeds, but if you don't want to bother with overclocking, whatever.
Overclocking is an incredibly easy way to save money. It takes barely any time, and it's a free performance boost. You can get an E6540 past 3ghz pretty easily.
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Now we're talking. Thanks Newb, I will return the PSU can you recommend one in particular thats $100~ ?
that PSU avoidance thread is 2 years old, is it still valid?
That other thread is freaking huge. I read the first post, understood about 40% of it.
How do you overclock shit? what are the risks? Does the product lifespan decrease when overclocked?
PS- what system do you have, and how much was each part? Oh and how long have you had it (like, any problems)?
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Is this even good?
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Model
Brand CORSAIR
Model CMPSU-520HX
SPEC
Type ATX12V v2.2 and EPS12V 2.91
Maximum Power 520W
Fans 1 x 120mm ball-bearing fan
PFC Active
Main Connector 20+4Pin
Dual +12V Yes
PCI-E Connectors 2 x 6Pin
SLI Support SLI Certified
Modular Cabling Support Yes
Over Voltage Protection Yes
Input Voltage 100 - 240 V
Input Frequency Range 50/60 Hz
Input Current 9A
Output +3.3@24A,+5V@24A,+12V1@18A,+12V2@18A,+12V3@18A,- 12V@0.8A,+5VSB@3A
MTBF >100,000 Hours
Approvals UL, CUL, CE, CB, FCC Class B, TUV, CCC, C-tick
Features
Connectors 1 x 20+4-pin ATX
1 x 4-pin +12V
1 x 8-pin EPS12V
2 x PCI-Express
8 x 4-pin peripheral
2 x 4-pin floppy
4 x SATA
Features Corsair has engineered the HX520W with features such as whisper quiet thermally controlled 120mm fan, up to 84% high efficiency, combined 40A on triple +12V rails, and modular cable connections with enhanced flexible cables to provide sustained 520W output even at 50ºC to the most demanding of systems.
The HX Series is the ideal power for high performance and gaming PCs, Audio/Video workstations, and file servers.
Manufacturer Warranty
Parts 5 years limited
only 18 amps on the 3 12v rails is that good?
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I used to think Asus made the best mobo's and I've built 4 machines with Asus boards. But I've given up on them now after getting THREE bad P5B boards in a row. First one only had 1 good USB port, second one would only power on if you hit the switch 50 times and it had to be plugged in for 15 minutes, and the third one won't power on at all. I just ordered a Gigabyte P35 something board which should be here soon.
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Does newegg offer any bonus deals when I order many parts at once?
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On June 28 2007 07:40 [X]Ken~D wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2007 06:07 Red_Dragon wrote:
You will not benefit much from better processor, but you will from better graphic card.
Intel C2D E4300 - 120$
Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3 - 120$
2x1gb ram DDR2 800 MHz - 100$
8800 GTS 320 mb - 300$
good power supply is around 120$
QFT. Assuming that the PC is mainly for gaming than for hardcore encoding then the E4300 is more than enough. The videocard is usually the bottleneck for games, not processor. With the money saved from not buying a higher processor, put that extra cash into a better videocard like the 8800 GTS monster. It's future proof with its DX10 features & is a powerful card. EDIT: Starcraft 2 is mentioned it might contain DX10 features.
no such thing as future proof in the computer industry every 2 years you can buy something for half the price that is 2x as power as the 8800gts either you upgrade constantly or making big changes every once and awhile
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On June 28 2007 16:14 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Does newegg offer any bonus deals when I order many parts at once?
if you order parts when buying your case and monitor buy them sepereatly at 3 day and you can buy the smaller parts like cpu and crap and ship then with next day bull for alot cheep and newegg doesnt offer any bonus deals when you order alot of stuff at once
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On June 28 2007 15:16 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Now we're talking. Thanks Newb, I will return the PSU can you recommend one in particular thats $100~ ?
that PSU avoidance thread is 2 years old, is it still valid?
That other thread is freaking huge. I read the first post, understood about 40% of it.
How do you overclock shit? what are the risks? Does the product lifespan decrease when overclocked?
PS- what system do you have, and how much was each part? Oh and how long have you had it (like, any problems)?
Overclocking varies you either change the multiplier or the front side bus when your talking about a cpu and chances are scence you are budget comp your cpu's fsb is forzen and you can only change the multiplier you do this though the bois or some programs you can find over clocking is raiseing the external frequency that is heading into the cpu you have to eventaly raise the voltage of what every your overclocking to incrase stablity but this also incrases heat the dangers of overclocking is that the added heat and if you do it poorly you will end up damageing it and most suppliers wont take a returns of crap that they know you f-ed up and yes a product life span does decrese because of added strain on it also when you over clock something dont be a moron check performances after words if you on a budget chances are your computer has chokes where incrseing crap doesnt change its performance
im not even gonna tell you have i have cause i own 2 comps both very expensive one is ati and the other is nvidia and intel is pretty much the way to go but ona budget you have to look at cpu charts and reviews to tell intel does have a better overclock ablitiy then amd in their dual core areas oh yeah im not a noob i own a 2900xt and it drivers are so f-ed up now of days porably because its so new that it does support the lower screen resolutions also dont get a 8600 it is cheep but its not a gaming card is one desigend mostly for hmdi use and is not desgen as a gaming gpu but as a media one
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On June 28 2007 09:24 teh leet newb wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2007 23:28 CharlieMurphy wrote:I told you I don't know how to overclock shit and I don't plan to. Whats the point, this shit runs good enough already anyways for what I wanna do with my comp right? as far as the PSU I bought isn't this good?: + Show Spoiler +
Model
Brand APEVIA
Model ATX-IB680W-BL
Series ICEBERG
SPEC
Type ATX12V / EPS12V
Maximum Power 680W
Fans 2
PFC No
Main Connector 20+4Pin
Dual +12V Yes
PCI-E Connectors 2 x 6Pin
SLI Support Yes
Modular Cabling Support No
Power Good Signal 100-500ms
Hold-up Time >10ms at full load
Efficiency > 70%
Over Voltage Protection Yes
Overload Protection Yes
Input Voltage 115/230 V
Input Frequency Range 50/60 Hz
Input Current 10A @ 115V, 5A @ 230V
Output +3.3V@38A, +5V@40A, +12V1@22A, +12V2@24A, -5V@0.3A, -12V@0.8A, +5VSB@2A
MTBF 100,000 Hours at full load
Approvals CB IEC 950, TUV EN 60950, UL 1950, CSA 950
Features
Connectors 1 x Main Connector (20+4 pin)
1 x 12V P4 / P8 (4/8 pin)
8 x Peripheral
4 x SATA
2 x Floppy
2 x PCI Express
Features High-tech aluminum casting with fire-resistant acrylic cover
LED light switch - Fan LED lights can be switched to blue, green or red
Multi-color coated components & PC board
Excellent Ventilation Design: 2 x 80 mm crystal LED fans
User-adjustable fan speed controller optimizing balance between noise reduction and necessary cooling
Cable Management: all cables are sleeved to avoid clutter and to improve airflow
UV Sensitive On/Off Power Switch, Power Plug and connectors
Short circuit / over voltage / over current protection
Manufacturer Warranty
Parts 1 year limited
Labor 1 year limited
oh shit just realized this is cheaper than what I bought at the store after rebate. PS- teh leet newb it doesn't seem like your even reading my posts. I said I don't plan to OC, don't wanna buy that crazy of a video card. I said I wanna spend around $150-200 for GPU and $150-200 for CPU. It feels to me like your just quoting what other people say is the best of the best instead of helping me find the best for my price range. Is my PSU overkill for the 7950gt and a 6420/6600 core 2 duo? PPS- What was wrong with the 8600GT ?? Sorry, I was kinda just skimming stuff because there were a lot of posts. But what I said about the PSU is crucial. Any knowledgeable computer person can tell you that PSU sucks. "Apevia" is a noname brand (used to be Aspire, which totally sucked). Brand name is far more important than advertised wattage. If you read my post, you would see that "680W" could probably only mean around 400W in a normal operating environment. They probably also use bad capacitors, increasing the chance of failure. Here's a list of power supplies to avoid, and Aspire/Apevia is one of the worst: http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=974240Read this to understand why rated wattage means crap: http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=779582Go with a solid and reputable manufacturer like FSP, Seasonic, OCZ, Tagan, etc. Antec used to be good, but now their quality is slipping a bit, so the Seasonic Antecs are still great, but the rest are about a tier lower. Still not bad, but not the best either. But whatever you do, just ditch that PSU. It'll only give you trouble in the future. Okay, now for the GPU. I have this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102067It's a great card, and at only $150 AR, it gives you an excellent bang for your buck. It beats the 7950GT and costs less. The only downside is that the fan is really loud. I have it turned up to max because loudness doesn't bother me (I always have music blasted). It overclocks pretty well, and I got mine up to XTX speeds, but if you don't want to bother with overclocking, whatever. Overclocking is an incredibly easy way to save money. It takes barely any time, and it's a free performance boost. You can get an E6540 past 3ghz pretty easily.
teh leet noob is right the gpu he is showing performs wonderfully and is a better buy then a 7950gt as far as psu goes i stick to pc power and cooling cause so far i have no gotten 1 psu that burnt out in a month watts does mean crap but not total crap you do need a certain amount of watts to supply your computer with power but watts means crap when talking about a gpu rails its all about apms there
here is a basic list of bang for your buck in pcie gameing graphic cards
Best PCIe Card For Under $100:
GeForce 7300 GT DDR2
Best PCIe Card For ~$115:
GeForce 8600 GT (it beats a 7600 and a X1650 XT witch fall around that price range)
Best PCIe Card For ~$150:
Tie
Radeon X1950 PRO (really hard to find for that price)
GeForce 7900 GS
(the X1950 PRO is similar to the X1900 GT, the main difference being that it is not based on the X1900 XT but a newer and less power-hungry core the card's main competition is the 7900 GS which the X1950 PRO will beat in most benchmarks at stock speeds however the 7900 GS tends to be cheaper and the X1950 PRO does not overclock well so they are both good buys depending on how you plan to use them the 7900 gs card is essentially an overclocked 7800 GT sporting a 256-bit memory bus and decent clock speeds it's a very good performer and a solid card for the money while the X1950 PRO is also a stronger performer, it's a bit more expensive the 7900 GS also has a good overclocking reputation while the X1950 PRO does not)
Best PCIe Card For ~$200
Radeon X1950 XT
Best PCIe Card For ~$280
GeForce 8800 GTS (320mb version)
Best PCIe Card For ~$360
GeForce 8800 GTS (640mb version)
Radeon HD 2900 XT ATIs new flagship card the HD 2900 XT trades blows with the 8800 GTS 640mb the only problem is that the HD 2900 XT costs $410 while the 8800 GTS 640mb can be found for as little as $350 it's hard to justify the extra $60 for similar performance so until the HD 2900 XT price becomes competitive with the 8800 GTS 640 i can't recommend it.
Best PCIe Card For ~$540
GeForce 8800 GTX
basicaly when looking at it go to the manufactures website dont trust what newegg puts there because sometimes ive noticed they leave stuff out
now ill show you one that will run alot of crap but it's hella imba and CPU bottleneck cokes the frame rates around 103 fps at certain games at lower resolutions built this for a friend
Budget Gamer Component Costs
CPU Athlon X2 3800+ AM2 $82
CPU Cooler AMD Boxed Cooler 0
Motherboard MSI K9N4 Ultra-F $59
RAM Wintec AMPO PC2-6400 1GB $70
Graphics GeForce 8800 GTX $540
Hard Drive Samsung HD160JJ - P80SD $51
Sound Onboard Audio 0
Case Coolermaster Centurion 5 $50
Power AeroCool ZERODBA-S620 $125
DVD-RW Sony NEC Optiarc Black AD-7170S-0B 18X SATA $35
Total Price $1012
another way to go is
Mid-Priced PC Component Costs
CPU Core 2 Duo E6600 $230
CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper TX $30
Motherboard MSI P965 Platinum $135
RAM Patriot eXtreme Performance PDC22G6400LLK $160
Graphics EVGA GeForce 8800GTS PN: 320-P2-N811-AR $280
Hard Drive Western Digital Caviar RE2 WD5000YS $160
Sound Onboard Audio 0
Case SILVERSTONE TEMJIN SST-TJ02SW $100
Power AeroCool ZERODBA-S620 $125
DVD-RW Sony NEC Optiarc Black AD-7170S-0B 18X SATA $35
Total Price $1,255
this is more rounded and does perform better up until the higher resolutions due to the fact the gts cant handel that many pixels compaired to a gtx but that around 1600x1200 resolutions
this is a highly specialized case i don't think id ever recommend such an unbalanced system (the budget one) to anyone but it makes a point that cant be ignored for high resolution gaming even the 8800 GTX is a viable card for a low-end dual core system
if you plan to play at very high resolutions your CPU's impact on performance is very limited compared to the influence of the graphics processor
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Ok So I narrowed it down between these PSUs: Which one do you guys suggest?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16817103940
Antec NeoHE 500 ATX12V 500W Power Supply - Retail
$104.99
3 Business Day Shipping $8.22
+3.3V@23A, +5V@17A, +12V1@17A, +12V2@17A, +12V3@17A, -12V@0.8A, +5VSB@2.5A
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16817341001
OCZ GameXStream OCZ600GXSSLI ATX12V 600W Power Supply - Retail
$109.99
($99.99 after $10.00 Mail-In Rebate)
3 Business Day Shipping $7.31
+3.3@36A,+5V@30A,+12V1@18A,+12V2@18A,+12V3@18A,+ 12V4@18A,-12V@0.5A,+5VSB@3.0A
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16817371001
Antec True Power Trio TP3-650 ATX12V 650W Power Supply with Three 12V Rails - Retail
$129.99
3 Business Day Shipping $8.22
+3.3@24A,+5V@24A,+12V1@19A,+12V2@19A,+12V3@19A,- 12V@0.8A,+5VSB@3.0A
(I think this was cheaper at the local store also)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139001
CORSAIR CMPSU-520HX ATX12V v2.2 and EPS12V 2.91 520W Power Supply - Retail
$129.99
($119.99 after $10.00 Mail-In Rebate)
Free 3 Business Day Shipping
+3.3@24A,+5V@24A,+12V1@18A,+12V2@18A,+12V3@18A,- 12V@0.8A,+5VSB@3A
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151025
SeaSonic S12-600 ATX12V / EPS12V 600W Power Supply 100 - 240 V UL, CE, CB, FCC - Retail
$124.99
3 Business Day Shipping $8.22
+3.3V@30A, +5V@30A, +12V1@18A, +12V2@18A, -12V@0.8A, +5VSB@2A
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371002
Antec True Power Trio TP3-550 ATX12V 550W Power Supply with Three 12V Rails 100 - 240 V UL, CUL, FCC, TÜV, CE, C-tick, CCC, CB - Retail
$94.99
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+3.3@24A,+5V@24A,+12V1@18A,+12V2@18A,+12V3@18A,- 12V@0.8A,+5VSB@3.0A
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341010
OCZ StealthXStream OCZ600SXS ATX12V / EPS12V 600W Power Supply 100 - 240 V CB, CE, CSA, UL, FCC - Retail
$94.99
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+3.3V@36A,+5V@30A,+12V1@18A,+12V2@18A,+12V3@18A,
+12V4@18A,-12V@0.5A,+5VSB@3.0A
PS- I'm looking at all these compared to this apevia iceberg (the one I bought) and the main differences are : 2 fans (instead of 1), runs at >70% efficiency (instead of 85%), has less SATA cables, but the Amps are way better: +3.3V@38A, +5V@40A, +12V1@22A, +12V2@24A, -5V@0.3A, -12V@0.8A, +5VSB@2A
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817148028
APEVIA ICEBERG ATX-IB680W-BL ATX12V / EPS12V 680W Power Supply With 3-Color LED Lights 115/230 V CB IEC 950, TUV EN 60950, UL 1950, CSA 950 - Reta
$119.99
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+3.3V@38A, +5V@40A, +12V1@22A, +12V2@24A, -5V@0.3A, -12V@0.8A, +5VSB@2A
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