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sc0rchedst0rm
Ireland176 Posts
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
So hey With the mail in rebates on Newegg What is the reciept? Or what do i have to print out to send with the rebate form? | ||
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teh leet newb
United States1999 Posts
OCZ GameXStream - Powerful, probably the most powerful of the bunch - Probably louder than the others - Not modular (good and bad, because modular means increased resistivity, which could increase the chance of failure, but it also makes it so you can remove cables, reducing clutter and making it look better) The Corsair and Seasonic are both made by Seasonic, so you can expect them to be very quiet and efficient. The differences are that the Corsair has a lower rated wattage (which means something, but not that much), is modular, and is a fairly new model. The S12-600 is older, but it is still a great quality PSU. I really don't know which one is more powerful, because you'd have to read reviews and guides. They should both be quieter than the OCZ though. Fortrons are usually known to be quite loud, but powerful, PSUs. I would steer clear of Antec, because even though they do have some quality PSUs made by Seasonic, some other ones aren't that good, mainly because they use cheap crappy capacitors. *EDIT* @rebate: You just print off a copy of the invoice. *EDIT2* Graphics cards: You can't compare raw clockspeeds. At one point, you could compare number of pixelpipelines and multiple by clockspeed to find out a relative indicator of performance. But now with ATI embracing a ring-bus architecture in their X1k series, focusing heavily on shaders, there's pretty much no way to compare a Geforce card with a Radeon without doing benchmarks. The X1950XT does indeed outperform the 7950GT though. However, it's a pretty loud and hot card, which doesn't really bother me, but everyone has their own preference. | ||
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sc0rchedst0rm
Ireland176 Posts
A PSU failure is horrible thing, or atleast it can be. I had a FSP (Fortron) in my computer about 4 years ago, and it blew taking my GPU, CPU, mobo, and RAM with it. And it was all out of warranty. {sigh} I understand this is a minority case because Fortron are a very reputable brand, but every build I've done since then is Seasonic and they've never given me ANY trouble whatsoever. You'll have to decide what kind of sound level you're happy living with. For example a loud graphics card or power supply doesn't really bother me, but thats because I've got about 9 fans in my case, so its a very slight difference. You on the other hand might be looking for a quieter PC, in that case your options will be slightly different. I personally find nearly all PSUs with 120mm fans to be pretty quiet, probably quieter than the stock fan that comes with a Core 2 Duo CPU (even though sound is a matter of opinion, others might not think so), but there definatly are differences in timbre, etc. | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
Guess I'm gonna go with this one. SeaSonic S12-600 ATX12V / EPS12V 600W Power Supply 100 - 240 V UL, CE, CB, FCC - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151025 Was kinda hoping you would recommend the OCZ(s) over this and the Corsair though (cause they're slightly cheaper). | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129021 SeaSonic S12-600 ATX12V / EPS12V 600W 100 - 240 V UL, CE, CB, FCC http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817151025 SAPPHIRE 100186L Radeon X1950XT 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 VIVO HDCP http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102067 So My next step is to find Mobo, CPU, and Ram that all works together. I'm probably gonna buy the CPU last (on 07-22-07 for price drop). Then I'm set. Was thinking along the lines of one of these CPU: Conroe E6600 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115003 Conroe E6420 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115016 Conroe E6400 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115004 What are the differences with these? and how much will the price drop on the 22nd? What RAM and Mobo works best with these CPUs? | ||
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KOFgokuon
United States14896 Posts
the ram you want is gonna depend on your motherboard | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
On June 29 2007 13:07 KOFgokuon wrote: http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?sduid=0&t=515717&highlight=intel the ram you want is gonna depend on your motherboard I already psosted that chart. It doesn't even list the CPU's I am considering. And I know that RAM depends on MoBo thats what I was asking. | ||
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FatRine
406 Posts
On June 29 2007 12:24 CharlieMurphy wrote: Ok So far I ordered: Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129021 SeaSonic S12-600 ATX12V / EPS12V 600W 100 - 240 V UL, CE, CB, FCC http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817151025 SAPPHIRE 100186L Radeon X1950XT 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 VIVO HDCP http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102067 So My next step is to find Mobo, CPU, and Ram that all works together. I'm probably gonna buy the CPU last (on 07-22-07 for price drop). Then I'm set. Was thinking along the lines of one of these CPU: Conroe E6600 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115003 Conroe E6420 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115016 Conroe E6400 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115004 What are the differences with these? and how much will the price drop on the 22nd? What RAM and Mobo works best with these CPUs? Dude quickly remove the order of that graphics card, it's absolutley not worth 180bux when you can order this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130082 for exactly 100bux extra.. the 320mb gts is god... it's the center of your computer man! youa re suppose to cut edges to fit a great graphics card.. | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
On June 29 2007 13:22 FatRine wrote: Dude quickly remove the order of that graphics card, it's absolutley not worth 180bux when you can order this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130082 for exactly 100bux extra.. the 320mb gts is god... it's the center of your computer man! youa re suppose to cut edges to fit a great graphics card.. uh, no I don't need that crazy of a graphics card dude. I am not willing to spend over 200$ on any 1 part in my comp, hell even over 150$ is pushing it. Like shit, If I'm gonna spend that much why not just buy the best top of the line card for $50-75 bucks more than this one you suggested? Where does it end. I have a budget, If I had 2k$ laying around sure I understand this is great and I would definitely take the advice for top of the line shit without questioning anything, I mean this thread would have been like 2 posts. "hey, Money isn't an issue whats the best system I can build right now?" Then you could list a bunch of shit in your dream system. I'm not gonna cut corners on any parts. My goal is to build a well rounded system. I don't want 1-2 things that are super good and having them bottleneck on other sub par cheaper parts just to fit my budget. | ||
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IzzyCraft
United States4487 Posts
On June 29 2007 12:24 CharlieMurphy wrote: Ok So far I ordered: Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129021 SeaSonic S12-600 ATX12V / EPS12V 600W 100 - 240 V UL, CE, CB, FCC http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817151025 SAPPHIRE 100186L Radeon X1950XT 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 VIVO HDCP http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102067 So My next step is to find Mobo, CPU, and Ram that all works together. I'm probably gonna buy the CPU last (on 07-22-07 for price drop). Then I'm set. Was thinking along the lines of one of these CPU: Conroe E6600 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115003 Conroe E6420 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115016 Conroe E6400 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115004 What are the differences with these? and how much will the price drop on the 22nd? What RAM and Mobo works best with these CPUs? For Cpu the 6600 is the defenate best now when your buying your mobo cpu and ram your mobo and ram is the most conflicting things scence your went with the ati card it be pefered that you buy a mobo with ati bridges witch ones is up to your preference and when you buy the mobo or if you want ram go onto the manfactures website and look for capatablity if not your sticks of ram might not be instally reconized and then it becomes plug and pray. scence its ati the stick are proably going to be OCZ, G.skill or Crucial Technology, Mushkin might work but im unsure corsair would proably work too but they tend to side with nvidia products alot and nvidia mobos if by some off chance your ddr insted of ddr2 then i would go with PNY Techn. also if im suggesting something scence Seagate Barracuda ST3250820AS 250GB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148142 for a hard drive its access and write timing are quite good and its quite cheep as long as your mobo witch it should comes with sata cables it would be fine when buying a hd it doesn't matter how much the catche be writher 8mb or 16mb its about how it performs and this one is a good mix between price and performance | ||
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IzzyCraft
United States4487 Posts
On June 29 2007 13:24 CharlieMurphy wrote: Dude quickly remove the order of that graphics card, it's absolutley not worth 180bux when you can order this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130082 for exactly 100bux extra.. the 320mb gts is god... it's the center of your computer man! youa re suppose to cut edges to fit a great graphics card.. haha yeah for the extra 100 the perforance difference is amazing high donno why but it is haha 1 8800gts out runs my older 2 7900 in sli weird huh well it out runs it untill i hit higher res over 1600 by 1200 proably because the combined ram is greater in 2 7900 | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
On June 29 2007 13:41 IzzyCraft wrote: Seagate Barracuda ST3250820AS 250GB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148142 for a hard drive its access and write timing are quite good and its quite cheep as long as your mobo witch it should comes with sata cables it would be fine when buying a hd it doesn't matter how much the catche be writher 8mb or 16mb its about how it performs and this one is a good mix between price and performance Yea, I bought a 200g Maxtor for $59.99 last summer (great deal) don't really need a HD as I have many I could slave on if I need the extra space. After my Seagate Barracuda 70g failed. Some of the hard drives are getting crazy cheap now like 750gb for 240$ I think by january I'll probably need a new HD and get one of those when they are a bit cheaper. | ||
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Element)LoGiC
Canada1143 Posts
On June 26 2007 17:54 CharlieMurphy wrote: yea, ok. but what I'm suggesting is 680w PSU overkill? What cards are cheap that support DX10 ? Sc2 might require Dx10, They aren't sure yet. I don't wanna have to buy a new card when it comes out. SC2 Was made from 2003, meaning that it won't all of a sudden change so drastically as to require DX10 hardware. You'll be fine on this point. Also, I'd like you to take into consideration that blizzard always makes their games run on anything. ANYTHING. I can run diablo 2 on a 15 year old computer. (Pentium 233). | ||
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FatRine
406 Posts
But the real deal is that..... you might not realise that if you spend 100bux extra on a 1000bux system, then youll probably get 20-40% better performance in older games. And ESPECIALLY in newer ones coming out youll get that type of performance boost. you'll probably regret not spending those 100bux later on. | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
On June 29 2007 14:00 FatRine wrote: You dont need a 600w psu, yet you decided you would buy it. Nor do you really need the core 2 duo especially much with that graphics card. You can just buy the cheapest core 2 duo and overclock it. But the real deal is that..... you might not realise that if you spend 100bux extra on a 1000bux system, then youll probably get 20-40% better performance in older games. And ESPECIALLY in newer ones coming out youll get that type of performance boost. you'll probably regret not spending those 100bux later on. I bought the 600w over the 520w because its like 5 bucks more and almost the exact same specs-wise. And I'm not doing any overclocking because I don't know how nor do I feel like learning and/or breaking my hardware trying. | ||
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IzzyCraft
United States4487 Posts
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dronefromhell
Canada199 Posts
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HeadBangaa
United States6512 Posts
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IzzyCraft
United States4487 Posts
On June 29 2007 18:02 dronefromhell wrote: i got a custom built rig couple weeks ago, e6600, asus p5n32e- sli plus, asus 880gts 640mb, antec 900 case, corsairs hx 620 psu, seagate 320gb hd. its pretty good. haha but thats kinda an enthusiast rig hes going for a budget computer and im assume he wants it for more then just games cause if its all games hella buy a cheep cpu and spend it all on a gpu and ram it'll choke out around maybe 100 fps but it run shiet | ||
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